Topic: The Chit Chat Thread

@nessisonett What? The quartering? Not what you meant about PewDiePie, but the quartering’s a pretty good channel if you ask me. He has reasonable and thought out opinions. That video feels a little weird, but I don’t see the reason for said “customization” in the first place honestly. I’m in the “but why?” crowd there.

@Jaz007 He’s part of the whole ‘gamers are under threat’ crowd. Not to mention the fact Wizards of the Coast actually put out a statement because of the targeted harassment he led against a female cosplayer. I refuse to listen to a man who tweets things written like “WOKE Captain Marvel Fans RAGE That Brie Larson DARES To Wear Makeup In The Avengers Endgame Film”. He’s also one of the main voices raging about Naughty Dog with awful inflammatory videos about things being too ‘woke’ and ‘sjw’. The rage culture just isn’t helping, the gaming community has a bad enough rep already. He openly makes videos with Count Dankula, a man I’m ashamed is from the same country as me and stood for UKIP at the European Elections which should tell you all you need to know about him. TheQuartering is literal scum of the earth, making videos laughing at women missing out on equal pay, spouting nonsense about men being under threat from the ‘feminist agenda’, being crazy transphobic etc. He even supports Tommy Robinson despite being American. There’s a clear difference between differing political views and being a massive bigot.

@RogerRoger You’re pretty much spot on here. Since the bigots fail to separate actual progress towards diversity in media, be that games, TV, movies, from faux-liberalism generated to make money, they’ll tar everything with the same brush. Disney et al. don’t care that they’re risking a shift in the public paradigm towards far-right mentalities, they’re making trillions from throwing scraps like ‘first gay kiss in a Star Wars movie’ (in the background) or ‘first LGBT+ character in a Pixar movie’ (a cop that looks like a troll, great lesbian representation there). I wonder if in the 60s there were people saying “That Jim Crow stuff was a bit harsh but black people are just in my face too much, in my bathrooms, my buses, my classrooms, my workplace and it feels like they’re everywhere. I’m not racist but maybe they should just stay indoors.”

@RogerRoger I look forward to the day when we go Minority Report style and games personalise themselves by reading all data stored about us. Some get to play Red Dead 14 as a member of the KKK and others play as a 7 foot tall mecha-cowboy who exclusively dates men named Brian. #ForAllThePlayers

@nessisonett @RogerRoger Times have changed and so too Standards. A ton of games and TV are now truly dark and gritty. As they sell and have been allowed to thrive. They wouldnt have got passed the drawing board 20 years ago. Game of Thrones with everyone being cut up.

Sex sells, just flick on a music channel for half an hour and you will have so much stuff in the ***** bank you won't need to watch it again for a year. Again 25 years ago it was slight titillation and nothing overly gregorious.

Then you have access to sex at almost anytime on the Web. You don't even have to pop the newsagents anymore.

So with everything available, viewable at any time you want due to catch up TV and box sets. What else is there to go after and dissect?

Oh yeah that one lesbian kiss in Star Wars.

The conversation is a none starter put into context. Everything taboo from yesteryear is out there all of the time. The same people actively arguing against gay kisses are of a similar mindset to the people who thought Mortal Kombat was the root of all evil in the 90s.

@nessisonett @RogerRoger @themcnoisy I'm currently reading the 35th and last volume of The Year's Best Science Fiction. So far in the first nine short novels if I consider their main protagonist we have:
2 heterosexual females
2 heterosexual males
4 lesbians
1 alien who decides to live on Earth as a gay male
Just saying for the statistics...

@nessisonett Thank you bringing to this to our attention. I won't be clicking the bell for that channel anytime soon.

jeez that biggot realy sounds like an a****.

and ofcourse he would jump at the TLOU2 hate wagon. yet another piece of evidence that there is actually nothing wrong with the narrative but instead there is with those biggots.

also funny that 1 guy on twitter who's also hating on the LGBT themes in TLOU says that it is bad enough that people don't take LGBT serious but at the same time ***** on the the game's LGBT themes. like how are you supposed to take it serious when you yourself don't even allow such themes to be represented in gaming media *****?

Is it just me, or is this site becoming more toxic? Lately I've been seeing lots more swearing, and people being angry in general.

Maybe people are on edge due to the coronavirus situation, or perhaps it's just because we're in the quiet period before the major next gen Sony announcements, I dunno.

@crimsontadpoles Even on the few italian sites I follow I noticed something similar related to the recent TLOU 2 leaks. The last querelle was about the chance of killing enemies' dogs: it seems it's a very bad thing if it happens in a huge exclusive game, while noboby noticed it in a niche multiplat (in Kingdom Come Deliverance you can kill them and get skin, meat and fat as items...)

@andreoni79 some of the best Sci fi films I have watched, Alien, Aliens, Predator and Event Horizon. I don't think much in the way of the protagonists sexual identity is ever mentioned. It's unnecessary and maybe part of the reason why I love them all so much.

I remember watching films with my dad at home when I was younger. If a sex scene ever came on there was this weird look away moment, haha. Pretty embarrassing.

@crimsontadpoles we are in LockDown mate, I think it's the anxiety. Also the fact no one is moderating.

My language has become a lot looser for sure a few times. Will pull it back in as its unnecessary and you are right to call it out.

@themcnoisy Same for me.
I don't want only man-eating aliens, exploding spaceships or time travels but some of them won't look out of place in a sci-fi novel 😂

@crimsontadpoles
Definitely are more toxic comments at the moment.
I think a big contributor has been people wanting to put a boot in on Naughty Dog recently. But as mcnoisy says above, the situation with coronavirus is likely to have an impact as well. I've noticed people where I work are 'losing it' a lot more than usual.

i must admit that i let myself go more than usual.

nothing to do with corona,but just me losing some impulse control. negativity on the web just creates negativity in others i guess. i therefore apologize.

@andreoni79 I thought the argument stemmed from the fact the toxic rage commentators were annoyed that the game makes you feel bad for killing dogs? Apparently the game makes the owners cry out for the dog if you kill it, which sure would make me feel bad as a dog lover. It’s different in Ass Creed when they’re like wolves trying to kill me but dogs are strangely off limits for me despite being relatively fine with games like GTA.

@nessisonett I thought the dogs are hunting to kill you in TLOU2? So if you choose to kill them it will be out of self defence. I don't like cruelty to animals especially when it is household pets, but in terms of playing a video game that would be ok in my book. My mate who I played The Division with used to shoot the dogs when they weren't attacking you and I had ask him to politely stop doing it.

@JohnnyShoulder yep. those dogs will be attack dogs.

they are added to make stealth more difficult since they can smell and have the hearing ability of a clicker.

perhaps you can avoid them in some way,but i'm sure that most combat situations will end up with ellie having to kill the dogs regardless,since you have to kill them to make stealth work or if the enemies detect her the dogs will to and go after you. but not every combat situation will have dogs. so keep that in mind aswell.

or perhaps there is a skill in the game that you can learn to get rid of the dogs non lethal. some sort of sleep arrow? altough on second though,that seems unlikely.

but anyway they are attack dogs intented to kill the player so it's not that it counts as mindless animal abuse or anything. the sad part is the owner crying over the dogs but they will do that over their other human friends aswell according to that demo from a few months back. it will be alright in the end.

@JohnnyShoulder @jdv95 Yeah, in games like Skyrim or the old Resi games, the dogs are ok because they barely resemble dogs and just bite you to death. I think any sort of realistic dog death would bum me out even if they’re trying to kill me, I’m kinda scarred from my childhood dog’s death cause it was just me in the room. I guess they won’t be dogs that wag their tails and play fetch though, probably more of the ‘eats humans and growls at you’ variant.

@nessisonett well the dogs will for sure look like dogs and most likely howl when killed but will also most likley have the agression of savage wolfs when they spot you,so i don't know if that's an ok counter for you?

may i ask if you would deduct points from the game if the dogs are realistic and painfull to kill for you?