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johncalmc

@render Yeah it's absolutely ruthless in there. I always shoot the tower on the way down and then try to escape to the far end of the room so I can put some distance between me and the baddies so I don't get overwhelmed. Depending on the make-up of the enemies this can be easy or really difficult.

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Elodin

@Th3solution I can see that being my issue as well. The deeper I get the longer each run will take and I often don't have time to play long stretches.

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Elodin

@velio84 yes, definitely a run and hide fight with drones. Their target locking shots are devastating, try to just use dodge.

Elodin

Th3solution

@adrianthealchemist Check out posts 1666 - 1671 in this thread for some instructions on spoiler tagging if you’re not ready for joining the spoiler discussion on the separate thread

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

render

@adrianthealchemist Hmmm sounds interesting, please share your theories. They are probably way better than mine which are from the point of view of an unprofessional software developer 😂

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JohnnyShoulder

2 more glyphs left in B2 and one left in biomes 3, 5 and 6. Slow going today as only one glyph collected from a few hours of play.

Life is more fun when you help people succeed, instead of wishing them to fail.

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

PSN: JohnnyShoulder

Th3solution

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Haha, fair enough. 😄 Patience trumps skill most of the time anyways. I’m discovering that to be the case.

And more than other games, time is your ally in this game. And what I mean by that is not only do you need to spend cumulative time with it to get a feel for the mechanics and foster a rhythm with the game, which is true, but also I mean that more than any game I’ve played in recent years the game works best when you’ve got some longer game sessions to devote. It’s probably the one Achilles heel to the game for me, that is — the lack of mid run saving. Like I said before, the rest mode trick is a fine workaround and has served me well, but it feels a little gerrymandered as a solution — like something players came up with on their own and posted on a forum rather than the actual official recommendation from the developer. I’ve not played the game in 3-4 days because I suspected I wouldn’t have more than an hour of time to spend on it per day until I get to the latter part of the week. And I’m just not going to leave the game suspended in rest mode for 3 days; Overnight..yeah, that’s fine, but with life being unpredictable, I have to be sure I’ll be getting back to it before I feel inclined to even start a session.
So it’s a good game for when you’re on summer break or when school is out for a long stretch. It will be perfect for that.
Fortunately for me it’s Independence Day weekend coming up (I know, it’s a obscenity to mention the travesty on a British site 😅) but it means maybe a little more free time for gaming between fireworks and barbecues.

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

Th3solution

Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy wrote:

Oh I'm sure it is. Funny a game about a constant time loop is making you go deep into the ins and out and the essence of time itself

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy
🤯 You just blew my mind! Housemarque’s devious greater allegorical motive has just been realized!

But yes, even more so you’ll be shocked at how quick you can just cold boot the PS5 and be in a game in a flash. I have a physical disc version of Returnal so there’s a few seconds of time spent spinning the drive, but it’s really fast to get from PS5 in off mode to in game. Even faster for your digital games.

So I’ve not used rest mode even as much as I did on PS4 (which was occasional). I mostly do it every now and then to give the console time to sync my saves to the cloud overnight or to download patches. It’s nice to have those things done automatically overnight rather than taking time and resources to do during play sessions. But yes, again it’s a minor time commitment even then.

We live in a world of immediacy and so people can’t be bothered to wait 30 seconds Foxy! 😂. Oh no, am I turning into an old mule too?!

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

Elodin

FINALLY reached the boss in Biome 3. Died right before phase 2. I was all set. I made a few either runs and then finally got a good batch of items including an astronaut and restart machine (unsure on name). Problem was I died twice making my way to the boss. By the time I got there i had 2 malfunctions and 2/3 health. But hey its progress...back to the grind.

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Elodin

render

@Elodin Well done on making progress. Don't forget that if it's that room on the way up to the boss in B3 that's causing you the issue, the one just over the bridge, then you can run through that and bail out the other side without having to take everything in the room on. There's usually a translocator sphere or some grapple points or something to get you out the other side without much damage.

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JohnnyShoulder

@Elodin I really struggled in that biome too (and still kinda do). Use the grapple to gain an advantage and try not to stay in one place for too long when there are enemies around.

I found the Rotgland Lobber essential as it makes short work of the enemies as it does a fair amount of continuous damage after the initial hit. I had gained a couple of traits and got up my proficiency to about 13 mind.

For the boss, on the first stage run left to right and vice versa, dashing when the get close to avoiding the blobs. To two things at the end will also come down and shoot a continuous laser stream but that can be jumped over or dashed through too. Not to spoil anything, but for phases 2 and 3 you will need to use your grapple effectively.

Life is more fun when you help people succeed, instead of wishing them to fail.

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

PSN: JohnnyShoulder

render

@JohnnyShoulder Cheers for posting that looks like a good read. I'll bookmark that one to have a look at over the weekend. What I did find interesting is this comment:

The audio also carries sonic DNA that will slowly make sense to the players as they progress through the game (or will remain a secret). Some DNA from the end is distributed to the beginning, in a way that can only be recognized once the game ending is experienced. There are a few easter eggs yet to be discovered by the players!

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JohnnyShoulder

@render I'm always a bit rubbish when it comes to noticing stuff like that! 😆

I think the following sums it up why I like it so much:

The believability and physicality of the world are expressed through detailed sonic textures that can make the game feel very tactile, ‘crunchy’ or even ‘wet’, through the creation of ASMR source material and the combination of sound with haptic feedback. It all comes together as a nuanced and tactile experience, which blends and compliments well with the abstract nature of the atmosphere, music, and overall narrative.

Life is more fun when you help people succeed, instead of wishing them to fail.

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

PSN: JohnnyShoulder

Th3solution

@render @JohnnyShoulder I’m not very adept at picking up on sound nuance in games and movies but I subliminally appreciate them for sure. I’m going to have to make an effort to notice the sounds in the game. I have picked up on the large amount of sharp ‘crunchiness’ to a lot of the sound effect and the mechanical beeping and humming. It’s a fantastic display of audio for sure.

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Had a really great run going today which was completely ruined by a single malfunction. Most malfunctions are easy enough to get around, but I got afflicted with one that paralyzed all proficiency gains and could only be cleared by picking up an artifact. Unfortunately I had cleared most of Biome 1 already on my way to leveling up for a dedicated Biome 3 attempt; so despite having built my suit integrity bar to double, this malignancy effectively neutered the run. When I went to Biome 3 I was stuck at proficiency level 3 up until I finally found an artifact about halfway through. By then, I’m stuck trying to take out drones with a level 4 Roltgland Lobber and it was just eventually unsustainable.

The run wasn’t all in vain — I made a little progress in traits and was able to find a couple ciphers and scout logs along the way.

I also took on a parasite that gave me the auto-integrity rejuvenation at critical health, but at the expense of 50% decrease in melee and dash refresh rate. I thought it would be worth the trade off for the health benefit, but I’m not so sure. Your brain and fingers have this internal timing that is ingrained over the course of play and I took a lot of damage drying to dash when it wasn’t available yet.

Ah well, back to the crash site.

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

JohnnyShoulder

@Th3solution Yeah personally I would never trade off dash and melee, as that would hamper my playstyle too much.

For that malfunction, I probably would have popped into biome 2. There is usually locked chests or rooms which have an Artefact. Than you can run all the way to the gate before the temple, which transports you to just before the gate to biome 3.

Life is more fun when you help people succeed, instead of wishing them to fail.

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

PSN: JohnnyShoulder

Th3solution

@JohnnyShoulder Yeah, in retrospect I totally should have gone through B2’s open area in hope of finding an artifact, then teleport to B3 from there. It killed me to just have to walk past the huge proficiency bumping calculator pickup at the beginning of B3. And apparently, you can’t go back to it after you drop down from there. Drat!

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

Just2Milky

Just an FYI for everybody getting stuck on certain points, for me the best option was to take a break. I had a wedding to attend, and came back a few days later, booted up the ps5, and beat ophion 1st try after getting stuck around the biome! If I can do it, y’all can do it to!

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