Topic: PlayStation 5 --OT--

@NEStalgia If you have the money for it and want it, I can't fault you for buying it. I own a PS5, a Series X, and a Nintendo Switch, but only really use the PS5. I can't say anything.

Makes sense. That way you may get it a bit sooner than some others that order it close to release too. If you somehow forget or just need to know, they email you about a week and a half before release telling you they are about to process your pre-order payment as well.

@KilloWertz lol I manage to own them all and actually play all of them... Technically PS5 gets the least use since it's an exclusives machine that's not portable, but that's still a lot of play time....

But vr2 will increase its play time for sure... 😃

@NEStalgia Not shocking by your username that the Switch would be your #1. I really do wish there was enough time to be able to play all 3, or at least the PS5 and the Switch, but there really isn't with work and other things. I game plenty on the weekends, but still, the PS5 is my #1 since it has the most games I love to play and I wouldn't get to play them all if I jumped from system to system that often. Since getting a Switch in late July of last year, the only game I completed was Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition.

I would hope buying a $550 VR headset would increase usage of the PS5.

@KilloWertz lol, I actually used to be only Nintendo (console+handheld) and ps (console+ handheld). But Nintendo merging the console and handheld and Sony getting out of handheld made me get an x1x to be an all digital console (I was all physical prior.). I ended up going entirely digital, and due to them having a pc-like digital landscape made xb my default console for 3rd party games, so ps became the exclusives box. Which is good because if xb was my exclusives box it would have collected dust for years, 😂 I think switch kind of takes the back seat these days but I play a lot outdoors in the summer, so it gets its use then. But mostly whenever I'm at the couch ps or xb is the winner. It's definitely a "first world problem", there's no way anyone can play all 3 (4 with vr?) Systems enough to justify them but I still love jumping between them all. Maybe my PC days were cheaper after all lol.

Looks like I won't be gaming for a while. My PS5 won't launch games and isn't recognising the WiFi, all this happening after the latest firmware update 😞

@LN78 I did a quick Google search and there was one site that mentioned the latest one to cause bugs, but not too sure about that website.

@NEStalgia Maybe I'm just missing something, but why did you go with Xbox as your main console instead of the PS5 simply because Sony got out of the handheld business? Not that it matters really and is none of my business, but I was a bit confused by the switch unless it's simply because you went all digital and the Xbox ecosystem is probably better for that. Unless you have mediocre internet of course, as file sizes on Xbox are generally much larger than they are on the PS5 due to much better compression.

Ideally, I'd love to just have one console. I made a mess of the last generation, jumping from my Xbox One X to my PS4 Pro quite often. It's my own stupidity that I ended up buying several games twice because of that, but this gen the PS5 has won out so far due to much better exclusives. If Xbox finally starts delivering this year, then things may get interesting. That is mainly why I kept my Series X, because I need it for Bethesda games and some of their other recent acquisitions (not Activision).

@KilloWertz Oh, no, it's not because Sony got out of handheld, its just that without their handheld and with Nintendo consolidating 2 platforms to one I went from having 4 platforms (wiiu, 3ds, PS4, psv) to 2 so adding the x1x when it started lifting from the xbone grave seemed appealing for an all digital system. I'd debated between that and getting back into my PC, figured getting into their sales and gwg (before it sucked) would be cool.

Then after I got it and used it a while along with PS4, their digital ecosystem and features just works better, the bc was a big deal, and overall it's just more pc like. Plus I like the controllers better. So I just kinda ended up going in that direction with that as primary 3rd party since I trust their digital more for the long haul more like steam.

I was physical only prior and happened to get real internet finally around that time which was a big factor, too. Wouldn't have touched xb otherwise!

I know the feeling of buying twice though. At that time I went all digital, rebought a lot of games id bought on ps to centralize on xb (all of Yakuza!) And rebought ps games I had physical already when on sale digitally. It's a mess, or was during the change. I'm MOSTLY out of that now where it's xb if it's on xb, ps if it's exclusive...... But Japan breaks me. I ended up buying ys9 on switch, day 1, finding out it runs like trash, then buying on ps. And the reverse for trails of cold steel. And p5 strikers..... So just as I stopped duplicating on ps and xb I started on ps and switch!

But yeah you still have the same situation in reverse from me where xb is the exclusives box. It'll pay off. I think this gen Sony is front loaded on releases and xb will be back loaded in the second half of the gen. Both machines will get plenty of use I think. I fully expect to wear out the PS5 even with just exclusives by late Gen.

Actually it's been acting up, beeping with disc eject beeps without a disc, while in standby exactly like my PS4 pro did. I have no idea why. I don't think it's broken, but idk what it's doing. It works fine when running, only standby is crazy. I disconnected the vr1 box and that wasn't the problem. Could be the external spinner drive, that's the same one the pro had connected

I still need to add an SSD but I'm not going to open it up until stock is normally available, just in case.....

@LN78 @MightyDemon82 For the first time since owning the PS5, I’ve had it drop WiFi connection twice this past week. Unfortunately it caused a forced exit out of Dark Souls when it did that, and so I got that scary warning upon rebooting the game that closing the game without properly exiting it might cause loss of save data. Fortunately the PS5 saves the game so fast that nothing was corrupted either time. But both times it showed a message that online connection had dropped just prior to the game kicking me.

I figured it was my WiFi being weird, but perhaps it’s the update. I need to try launching some other games and make sure it’s not a system thing. I haven’t been played anything except Dark Souls in the last few weeks.

@LN78 I don’t think there’s a specific thread for technical problems. Perhaps there needs to be one because either people post a new thread about the specific issue or they put it in here.

I’ll update when I get home after I try to launch some PS5 games. I did have some lagging when trying to watch some YouTube videos, so I still suspect my issue is my own WiFi. I would suspect that if there was some common issues created by the update that we’d hear more about it.

Edit: I am also a little hyper-vigilant since my old PS4 is having WiFi antenna problems (I suspect) and so I’ve been more aware since then.

@NEStalgia Ok, that makes sense. It's more or less because Xbox has the better all digital ecosystem for you, and I can't argue with that given the overall superior BC. Are you going to get a Series X so you can have the third party titles in new gen quality?

That's good that you've got it all mostly figured out. Maybe don't buy multi-platform games day 1 on Switch until you know they run fine. I hope I remain the same, but watch Xbox finally deliver on their exclusives and throw me for a total loop.

True, as long as Xbox finally delivers, they should have a very interesting second half of the generation. Know me though, if they go on a nice run, I'll get swept up in it all and lose my discipline of using my PS5 as my main console. I hope they do deliver, but I hope I don't do that. lol

Yeah, it could be the drive, but I'm far from an expert. I don't know, but as long as it keeps working, you should be good. At worst, if it breaks eventually, you should be able to get another one given that the stock is supposed to finally normalize this year.

@KilloWertz Oh I do have the XSX, I got both XSX and PS5 day 1 luckily! I also have an XSS I use for a dedicated streaming machine to a phone/controller setup for a Switch-like setup but with having full quality games. I also have one of my PS4's set up for the same. I don't want to use the PS5 or XSX for that...too much wear and tear for brief usage. My launch day XSX actually died last year, just days before the warranty ended with a dead power supply. Thankfully it was still within warranty. That's how I ended up with an XSS actually, as a backup since most of my library is tied to that system it made sense to have. If the new beeping of the PS5 in standby is an ill omen I'd rather remain blissfully ignorant.

Haha, yeah, I've learned my lesson on Switch multiplat after Ys....that's why I have the XSS and PS4 set up as a streaming box actually! I got Soul Hackers 2 and Diofiled on Xbox and Trails games on PS and play them on the phone rig like it's a Switch. Except Trails from Zero where Switch has the better version for whatever reason.

Haha, I do think the trick to being multiconsole is discipline though....just choosing one as the third party one wherever possible. Keeps things concise. Things like timed exclusivity throw me off though, because then it's cheaper on the opposite one even when it's on both, or things like FF7 that's forever in a "will it won't it" port conundrum. Cheap may win for me there. And....VR might make some changes if the PS version will include VR that's more than token VR (Ace Combat what was one mode, etc, no thanks.) I'm betting Hitman gets patched for VR2, and that makes me regret getting it on XB. I have 1 on PS though from before I switched my primary.

The beeping thing is just weird. I don't even use the disc drive, it's never had a disc in it, so I don't technically care. It's fine when it's on, it's only in standby that it beeps. But the weird thing is it's the exact problem my PS4 Pro had that I thought it was breaking. I doubt they both have the same issue. I thought the VR1 breakout box was it, but nope. The only thing left I can think of is maybe it's the external HDD for PS4 games, I don't want to disconnect it because I have a ton of games on it, but that's the last link left that's common with the PS4 Pro. I could not use standby but.....I heavily use standby. I'm thinking it's probably not broken it's probably software somewhow. It's just so strange, it's the ghost of my PS4 Pro living on. I was so happy to unplug that thing when I got the 5 for this reason lol.

@LN78 @Th3solution. Just won't launch any games at all and where it tells you your online status is blacked out.

Not having a lot of luck with stuff recently. Car in the garage and PS5 now playing up 😞

@LN78 I did that at the beginning of the latest update. No access to PS store or online. It says I'm connected but then it fails.

Well, I've just posted my PS5 back to Sony . Nothing wrong with it per se, but £480 for a PS4 Pro Plus with a catastrophic UI was a bit too much to bear.

I can't believe someone at Sony didn't go and boot up a PS4 and say "just add more stuff to this, it works really well". Friends list hidden away, having to press PS button, then options on the game icon to close the application, no folders and themes - GAH!
And while some of the updates were nice enough, games like F1 2021 runs no better on the 5 than the Pro, apart from the DualSense making some weird 'ponk'ing noises that the PS4 version doesn't suffer with.

PS4 Pro with 1TB internal Crucial MX500 SSD is still working fine so I'm definitely going to wait to see what the redesigned version looks like this year before I dip my toe back in.

@LN78 Thanks for trying though. Might have to get it repaired or just buy a new one when I can afford it!

@MightyDemon82 have you tried connecting using an ethernet cable rather than WiFi, at least to see if you can get online that way?

@NEStalgia Ok, I didn't know that for sure since you only ever mentioned your Xbox One X. Nice that you got lucky enough to still be able to get your Series X replaced.

Discipline is not always my strongest suit, but I will do my best... I hope. If I do stick to this format, then the timed exclusivity should be ok as Xbox tends to have really short timed windows that make me question the purpose, unlike the year or two Sony usually does.

I guess as long as it keeps working and is only an annoyance, then you're ok, but that's really weird that it does it even though you've never even used the drive. I get not wanting to disconnect your external drive, but you could always do it once just to test things out and then just plug in back in afterwards. Obviously with having so many games on it, you'd still have to use it, but at least you'd know if that was the cause and possibly replace it at some point.

@KilloWertz Yeah I actually had a weird almost revelation that probably isn't, with the beeping. Yesterday it beeped once. But I happened to notice that when I shake the audio rack next to it, I would get a lot of beeping. Then when I stop it stopped. I did it a bunch of times, shake the rack, it beeps a number of times. Stop shaking it, the beeping stops. But then after several times of that pattern it wasn't beeping with or without shaking it, so that may have been just a really weird coincidence. And the rack it's also not touching the PS5 in any way, which is on the floor located in front of the rack, and it makes no sense that the two should be related at all. I thought maybe it's not the PS5 that's beeping at all but something else....but, nothing else makes the same beeps PS's do, and it doesn't happen when the PS5 is running. This thing will drive me completely batty eventually!

FWIW, I'd forgotten, but I think the PS4 Pro did the beeping even when it WAS running, so this is actually a little different than that. It's the weirdest thing. I swear I find there's some device I didn't even remember I had buried somewhere behind the audio rack that coincidentally has the same beeps a PS has and for 5 years I've been thinking the PSs beep lol. I'll probably try the drive disconnection at some point, as a last resort but it has to be when it's beeping consistently enough to check cause and effect....and it seems like it wants to be elusive.

I think XB exclusivity and PS have different purposes. For XB I think they're mostly trying to use the temporary exclusivity for GP launching games to give GP subscriptions a big lure and inject new subscribers. It only needs to be short term to do that. For PS's exclusivity. Honestly their angle is kinda slimy and goes with the kind of sleazy business tactics Jimbo and crew use that makes me really dislike them. They're using their total market dominance to be able to pay relatively low prices to buy out potential sales on competitors products for what they see as key titles so that they can pretty much lock down entire genres for a pittance. Like FF, by paying the relatively small fee to buy out whatever lost sales not being on XB will miss, they can pretty much lock down the entire JRPG market as their own by taking a tentpole nobody in the market for the genre would want to miss. If you're Square-Enix, you know you're going to move less units on XB than on PS, so there's not a huge loss skipping XB, and skipping the development costs on that port if PS is willing to pay the lost sales and then some, which PS can only do because they're already most of the market so buying the competitor's volume is peanuts, which then ensures that the competitor's potential volume remains peanuts. It comes back to the whole MS-ABK thing. On one hand I hate all the consolidation around. And I hate "big tech" as much as anyone. On the other hand, Sony really needs a kick in the teeth because they play as dirty as they come and they do it through abusing their near-monopoly on the console market, such that everything they've accused MS would gain the ability to do in all their legal dealing is hypocritically things they already do themselves, and their whole complaint is that they fear losing their pseudo-monopoly and not being able to do it anymore. PS runs as dirty as Nintendo was in the 80s.....and Nintendo needed Sony to use their wallet to bribe up the industry to kick them into place. Sony needs the moneybags to kick them now....but then I'd worry that there's no one left to kick MS when it's their turn (again).....

@MatthewJP @LN78. The gaming god's must be smiling on me as it's back to it's old self, as if nothing was wrong 😃. I think it was related to that terms of agreement, because I had to sign in after successfully connecting to the WiFi and ok another thing about passwords at checkout. Very strange, but chuffed it's not dead!