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Topic: The Last Of Us Part II - OT (No Spoilers)

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Rudy_Manchego

Ignore my last message my fears were unfounded and it has arrived. Now I have to wait until the kids are in bed... I've heard rumours it has a few scenes of violence that MAY be unsuitable for young kids.

Now I may be an idiot, but there's one thing I am not sir, and that sir, is an idiot

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Scollurio

@Octane Many on Twitch have been streaming the night through and there's plenty who had an early copy, the whole Cutscenes start to finish are already on Youtube. So many have played it 100% already, many more watched them do so, there's plenty of info out not only confirming the leaks but showing how bad it really is.

The story is not only terrible, but simple, like written from a highschooler. Evil people do evil things, turning not so evil people into more evil people doing evil things, until someone breaks that circle. That was dull already in the bible.

About the 0-scores, it's really simple. When you loved TLOU chances are it was because of Joel and Ellie, their delicate emotional band and their development together, Ellie growing up, toughening up and Joel warming up into a father figure again, after his loss of Sara. They were what each other needed. If this is what you expect from TLOU II, and many did, there's nothing of that. The game literally spits on everything that made the first one great. The ending offers no satisfying conclusion and leaves you hanging with your anger. So that said, if you expect that and don't get it, it's no fun, no matter how good it might look. Hence the 0/10. But many scores on metacritic is more like 3 or 4 out of 10.

Also you have to diversify. If you enjoy moody, gutwrenchingly bleak action games with lots of torture porn with no regard of the characters or story and character arches of the past game, then this is sure like a 7 or 8 out of 10. But if you came for Joel and Ellie it truly is a 0/10.

All that said, even if you don't care and like what it is. It's also nowhere near a PERFECT game. The AI is not much improved, the gameplay loop is largely the same as in the first game, there is ONE new clicker type, and ONE new enemy (dogs). All the characters are not really likeable, there is no comic relief, it's just all bleak and horrifying from start to finish.

What I really hate is that there wasn't much more mention of "if you want more of what TLOU 1 was with Joel and Ellie, go look elsewhere" in all those glowing reviews.

The soundscape/music is truly breathtaking though. Also the face capture. Makes many scenes even more unbearable.

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Scollurio

@Rudy_Manchego They're unsuited for grown ups as well. It's really gross.

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Scollurio

@JohnnyShoulder That's the best reason to give a game a low score isn't it? Let's say you go to a restaurant and enjoy their chili. It's really tasty, fruity and spicy. They tell you in a while they'll have another, new chili. You're excited. Finally you go there for the new chili, you expect a richer flavor, maybe some nice home made bread with it, an improvement over the already stellar recipy you so enjoyed.

Then you get sausage.

Of course you're upset. It might be a good sausage, but you didn't come for sausage, you came for chili.

People came for Joel and Ellie.
The Trailers were misleading and fraudulent. ND knew this. People would come for Joel and Ellie. So they tinkered the trailers to fit the narrative. Turns out the scenes in the trailers are very different in the finished game. I don't want to spoil. I'm just really disappointed.

Joel and Ellie were special in the first game.

In the second game, nothing is special. It's all just for shock value.

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Octane

Alright, I'm not going to read all of that, because I'm sure I caught some spoilers. I'll stay off the internet for the rest of today.

Octane

HallowMoonshadow

I have no pony in this race at all regarding The Last Of Us Part 2 but it sounds like you just wanted an excuse to whine at what it didn't do for you personally and ruin it for everyone else @Scollurio

Probably best you just take it elsewhere friend

Previously known as Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy
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"You don't have to save the world to find meaning in life. Sometimes all you need is something simple, like someone to take care of"

Scollurio

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Ok, so when you buy your next FIFA and then they start playing Basketball, it just didn't do it for you personally I guess!

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Scollurio

@Octane No real spoilers. Take care, let me know how you liked it. I'm honestly curious.

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HallowMoonshadow

Scollurio wrote:

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Ok, so when you buy your next FIFA and then they start playing Basketball, it just didn't do it for you personally I guess!

Cute.

Your argument is a completely ridiculous logical fallacy and the entitlement from you... I've seen six year olds with better understanding.

I'm just gonna hit that ignore button now as you're without a doubt trolling. Hope the door hits you on the arse on the way out!

Previously known as Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy
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"You don't have to save the world to find meaning in life. Sometimes all you need is something simple, like someone to take care of"

roe

About 3/4 hours in and I'm absolutely sold on this already.

The very early gameplay felt a bit clunky imo, particularly as a tutorial kinda thing. But once it opens up it's very much the original game taken to another level.

I've found the exploration so far to be quite simply stunning.

Just so many little moments, references, and intricacies that just make you smile or feel anything. It's so special and so rare for games to have this kind of production quality and care.

The soundtrack is great again as well.

The tone of the game is very political and sometimes I've found it a bit in my face but it's also quite unique in that way I think and it actually works well for the game anyway

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The difficulty options are absolutely ace as well. Being able to play with super scarce resources without having the enemies feel unfairly tough is really welcome. So many ways you can tweak it to your own personal liking.

roe

JohnnyShoulder

@Scollurio Err, I mean that is totally not the same as playing a 30 hour video game. 😂

Please be more careful in what you are posting, it comes across that you have an agenda to make some dislike the game as much as you do.

Life is more fun when you help people succeed, instead of wishing them to fail.

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

PSN: JohnnyShoulder

BearsEatBeets

I've still not received my copy yet, I'm beginning to think I probably won't get it until tomorrow. This is the only downside of physical copies for me.

BearsEatBeets

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tatsumi

@roe how is this game political?
I’m 14 hours in and feel nothing of that sort.
Maybe it’s because I am German, living in Japan, so I don’t take things as political as Americans and UK people do I guess?

tatsumi

Gremio108

@Scollurio So you're saying if Naughty Dog had put a few more sausages in The Last of Us II, maybe certain people wouldn't be getting so upset?

I think you might be right there.

Good job, Parappa. You can go on to the next stage now.

PSN: Hallodandy

roe

@tatsumi Perhaps political isn't the right word, but there are tons of different references and talking points brought up being used as a commentary on society as we know it.

Like I say, I think it's done well on the whole

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tatsumi

@roe maybe it’s because I never care about anything around society and just see humans as humans without slapping any terms on them, that I also can’t see such things.
To me it’s all just humans acting naturally like most humans would (hopefully?).
I absolutely don’t care about somebody being homo, others being trans or whatever. I am more than halfway through and actually just now noticed that this game I guess has a lot of strong female characters? Maybe? I don’t know. Because I generally don’t care about such things. Just enjoying the storyline.

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roe

@tatsumi right but you know these things exist? How often are subjects like homophobia and fascism brought up in a video game?

The message is a powerful one, and it compliments the story and setting very well

roe

Gremio108

@Rudy_Manchego Thanks. If you're a fan of hilarious TLoU2 comments, head over to the 'Review-Bombing' article, where there are loads!

Sadly they're all funny for the wrong reasons.

Good job, Parappa. You can go on to the next stage now.

PSN: Hallodandy

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