@Th3solution@Tjuz Yeah, I jumped in with ME2 on PS3 so just had the comic book prologue to get me up to speed. I never felt it made a massive difference to my experience but the game certainly made a big deal over characters I'd never met.
For instance.. I chose to save the Racnhi queen in the prologue. In ME3 she returns but it didn't mean anything to me really.
And don't worry @Tjuzof course I chose to have Wrex survive and appear in ME2!
EDIT: I also got the collector's edition (or whatever it was called) so got From Ashes with the game so I got to play with Javik. I used him a lot on my second run-through. I especially liked him dismissing just about everything Liara "knew" about the prometheans
@RogerRoger It does seem that a lot of people prefer Ashley. Kaidan was nicer and I couldn't bring myself to sacrifice him. In the third game my Shepard romanced Cortez, who seemed sweet; but given the history with Kaidan and everything they'd gone through I felt Alenko would have been a better match. I also chose to be a Ravager (awesome class), which fit in nicely with Kaidan's side story relating to his implants was interesting given my Shepard's biotic abilities.
@RogerRoger Yeah, I was also concerned that Cortez would lean on stereotypes. That he didn't was a mark of the great writing in the games. I don't think it's bad to be concerned that he would be a stereotype, as so many gay characters in media still are poorly written - especially when romance is involved.
I'll certainly put Rime on my big list of games I'm interested in! Is it particularly gut wrenching?
@RogerRoger The second the piano started playing in the Liara clip I recognised it! i definitely saw that scene, I had just forgotten. Too bad, since it's really cute like you said. I can see how you would get teary-eyed if not outright bawl at that scene once you're getting close to the end. Hell, I might have and simply forgotten that as well! Í'm surprised by your romance choices. Those are characters I've never really considered seriously romancing. I only started romancing Kaidan on my third playthrough since it's the only one I hadn't seen yet, but was planning to move to Garrus for ME2 and probably ME3 as well. Any specific reason you were so adamant on romancing Kaidan instead of exploring different options? I frequently heard Jacob is one of the worst romances in the trilogy, and he definitely was a total creep whenever he'd be talking to my FemShep. Hopefully he wasn't as awful as advertised!
I think they really shouldn't have included paragon/renegade points for the decision to save or sacrifice the Council. Both sides have really strong arguments for either ''moral''. I actually do believe I did save the council on my first run through. My justification was along the lines of a fear of galactic unrest if the Council ended up dead. I figured it'd be turn out to be a completely hellish experience to have all the races fighting over a spot in the new Council, with risks of ''negotiations'' starting to become violent. Once I got on that train of thought I felt saving the council was the better choice. On the other side, sacrificing all those lives just for a few politicians does seem like a complete renegade action without thinking of possible consequences. It's really one of those choices they shouldn't have allotted either points to. I do believe I also opted to preserve the Collector Base for study, but I can see how that could end up being ''the bad choice'' since it'd be in possession of Cerberus, and they're historically not very fond of sharing.
I think what you proposed regarding a division between the ''subjective'' and ''objective'' review score is a good solution. It's probably the best way anyone can go about it, even if it becomes slightly convoluted. It will require even more of a thorough readthrough of reviews, though, and unfortunately that not something that's all that prevalent within gaming culture. Most people like to simply skip to the end for the score and believe that any score below 8 is terrible, which is a terrible way to ''take reviews into account'', but what can you do?
Ah, I got the numbering wrong for the Tomb Raider games! I can't fault myself for that one considering how many of them there are. I'm glad to hear it got soft-rebooted and it isn't all an ongoing storyline. I don't know if I could ever get myself to start on a nine-game long journey! If I end up liking Legend/Anniversary/Underworld I'll be sure to go further back and see if I can appreciate those as much. I'm certainly not opposed to PSone gaming! That said, to go off on a slight tangent, do you know if there's a specific reason why people call PSone as such instead of PS1? The latter seems like the more logical choice. Is that a marketing term Sony ushered in themselves or is that just kind of the way it is? It's always interested me.
No need to apologise for how you play Hitman 2! That's how I played Blood Money, and intend to play any future Hitman game I pick up, as well. I can't imagine playing Hitman any other way, although missions do have a tendency to somewhat go off the rails at some point. At that point it's just about recovering and avoiding civilian casualties, but I can't say that's something I've always managed! I mean, no Silent Assassin is good too, right?
I actually ended up buying Arkham Origins earlier today upon your suggestion. I saw it was included in the recent Humble Bundle in the $1 tier, so at that point it's a steal! It's all downloaded, installed and ready to go. Just gotta find the right time to boot it up, since i also started a playthrough of the original Borderlands with a friend on PC yesterday and he's quite the active fellow! Clearly my one game per system.. system is already broken. That didn't last very long! I'll be sure to try and follow up on those OCD tips with this one in particular, but I must admit that anything that includes proper districts and progressively unlocking side quests can be extremely tempting like you say. It'll be a hard one! I hope I enjoy the main story as much as you did and that helps me stay on track.
Regarding the amount of time it will take to play Kingdom Hearts, I agree. I only recently find out how ridiculously long it is to play all the games. I believe HowLongToBeat pegs it at around 180 hours total. Add the completionist mentality, and you've got yourself a hell of a mountain to climb. I can barely even get myself to finish 10 hour games! That said, I should've expected it considering it's a JRPG. Obviously they're all notoriously long. I figure maybe something among the likes of Yakuza 0 would be a better entry point into that specific area of gaming. We all gotta face it, we'll never get to play everything we want to play.
@Th3solution@Thrillho Ah. Mass Effect being an Xbox exclusive for a while is a great point. I hadn't thought of that considering I personally played the trilogy on PC. Such a shame that both of you missed out on the first one, though! I think that it might be the best self-contained story of the three. Some incredibly memorable moments in there. I do recommend both of you give it a shot at some point in the future if you can, though! Definitely not an experience you should miss if you enjoyed the second and third games, even after having played those. You can also simply play the first one without soldiering on, altough, admittedly, that might be tough to do once you get into it again!
@Thrillho Ah. Saving the rachni queen is definitely a huge plot point in the first game. They were creatures who were once very violent and almost brought the galaxy to extinction. Luckily the Krogan were there to bring them to their knees, but they had to be brought into the fold by the Turians/Salarians/Asari since they hadn't yet made contact on their own yet. This is also what the prerequisite was to the Sarlarians creating the Genophage. Once they noticed how strong and aggressive the Krogan were to the point where they were significantly able to weaken the Rachni on their own, the Genophage was created to stop them from reproducing and to keep them in check, but I digress. The Rachni were subsequently brought to extinction, yet the antagonists from ME1 managed to hatch Rachni eggs in the hope of recreating their once powerful army to do their dirty work along with the Geth. This is where the Rachni queen came in, since these creatures rely on a ''queen'' to control them. You had a choice between killing the Rachni queen to avoid a potential disaster, or to let her escape with the promise that she would not use her ''children'' for warring and that she would bring peace to the Rachni. If you let her escape, that's when she shows up again in ME3 to aid you. I'm not sure if you already knew all this, but I always enjoy recalling Mass Effect lore! All that said, the return of the Rachni queen was definitely not as epic as I had hoped it would be. It was very underwhelming, especially since she didn't really serve any purpose.
I'm also glad you saved Wrex! I was worried since I believe the default option when you create a fresh game in ME2 is him having died. I can't imagine playing the trilogy without him!
@RogerRoger Certain things can make me emotional, so I'll see how it goes. At the moment I feel like even a small thing might make me sob. I've played games where after completing them I've felt sad but almost hollow, because they've had such a stunning emotional impact.
@RogerRoger Just saw your post above (it must have popped up when I was typing my other reply). I was perplexed that there weren't male same-sex romance options in the first two Mass Effect games. Bioware's explanation irked me. I'm not one who is typically hyper-sensitive, but it didn't make sense that in an RPG where you can be your own Shepard and where there are also female same-sex romances that they then basically said, no Shepard isn't and can't be gay. They had to be concerned with backlash from certain sectors. :-/ I really liked that in Fable 2 (the first one in the series I played) that there were same-sex romances and it wasn't a big deal.
@KratosMD Whoops, my bad; I didn't see the first line. That explains a lot, thanks!
Though maybe it's useful to say that I've bought RIGS anyway; I looked up some gameplay, and it was only a tenner anyway. I don't have a PSVR yet, lol!
@beemo Good to know! I'm hoping for a good sale during Black Friday, because I want to get one for Dreams anyway. I've also got Astro Bot already; €10 was too good to pass up on! Any other titles I should look out for? I'm thinking of Farpoint, that looks pretty good as well.
@RogerRoger So to carry over the question about Infamous. Yes, I would recommend the series as a whole for you. It’s clear you have an appreciation for the superhero genre. The first two games on last gen are probably more widely acclaimed as better games, but Second Son is superior of course in the technical department. Despite being an early PS4 game, it still holds up graphically.
It’s basically a world where some people (conduits) have developed super powers which typically revolve around power over some elemental or natural phenomenon. And yes, the protagonist goes through some of the ‘reluctant superhero’ themes and the whole ‘learning how to harness and develop your powers while fighting against all odds’ plot devices as well. Thematically, it is nothing ground breaking, but is well done. The superpowers involved are spectacular at times. And Second Son’s open world of an accurately rendered Seattle is a pretty good playground to try them out in. The production value is high, and I think you’d like it. All the games have a morality component of being able to play as good or evil. (Good Karma or Evil Karma it’s known by, I think). Be a savior to humankind, or use your power for destructive purposes. The choices you make affect what powers you have access to. So if you play evil, you’ll get to develop powers that you can’t use when playing as ‘good karma’. I think you’d like they aspect also, to be able to choose the more noble and heroic paths, based on our previous discussions. As I recall, you don’t like playing the villain or the morally corrupt role.
But yeah, highly recommend giving Infamous a try. All the games could be bought for a pittance at this point. Personally I think you could just jump into Second Son without having played the first 2 and be fine. There is not much of any carry over from Coles story that you can’t be quickly brought up to speed with, as I recall.
The expansion First Light is wonderful as well.
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@RogerRoger I can’t find the initial question, but inFamous is a great series. I’d reccomend for story along with gameplay. The story goes through some normal beats at first, but honestly becomes mind blowing, especially if you play it evil. Second Son doesn’t have a mind-blowing story, but it’s very well done and on a more personal level. It also skips superhero reluctance completely. They are have some of the most fun worlds to run around in. I’m not talking about side-quests either, I mean just running around with parkour and powers. It’s just tons of fun and I’ve spent too much time doing that.
And as said, you can play Second Son only and be okay, but you’d be missing out on some great story if you do.
Whoops my bad guys, I have been really busy at work the last week or so so I haven't been keeping an eye on the threads and such as well as I should be. I agree though with @KratosMD.
With that said from now on give a small impression on a game that somebody asks about and leave it at that. If you want to go into greater detail create a thread for that game. I will.be keeping a better eye on this thread from here out so if you derail the thread again don't be surprised to find your posts removed.
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@Jaz007 It was a question born on the Weekend Quiz thread. I was just surprised that RR didn’t know an Infamous question, so it brought us here so I could expound on why I would recommend it. I think I echo your thoughts on the game.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@RogerRoger I’d play them in chronological order just so none of the later story in the first two inFamous games is mentioned to you in Second Son. And whenever you have a choice, it’s just between a good or evil one, so it would make for a simple, but different replay as a decent number of missions change entirety depending on which route you take.
inFamous 2 also has a cool feature where you import the save date from 1 and carry over some of your Karma and stuff. The series can also be very close a tear jerker too.
I am a little surprised there hasn’t been a inFamous remaster though. Maybe they want something to remaster for PS5?
Ok guys that's enough on Infamous Series. We don't need a discussion about remasters and such.
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Has anyone played The Council? And if so, would you recommend it? I like the whole alternate history genre and the story heavy gameplay like a Telltale game or Life is Strange, which is kind of the vibes it gives off. Push Square gave the first episode a 6/10 but Sammy was optimistic that there was something interesting in the groundwork it laid. Then the game was never brought up again, despite now all the episodes (4 of them I think?) being released. The complete game with all the episodes is now on sale in the NA double discounts sale for $15, so I’m tempted to pick it up.
@RogerRoger The complete disappearance of any updates about the game makes me wonder if it ended up as a complete mess. Push Square seemed to be really interested in following the series when the first episode launched, but there was never any follow up. Whether that means it turned up being awful (which hasn’t stopped coverage of a lousy game before), or whether it got buried in more pressing game releases (yet somehow we still got reviews for Immoral: Unchained and Battle Chef Brigade Deluxe 😐), or maybe the publisher just stop sending out review codes on the later episodes. I actually didn’t even realize all the episodes were released and the game is now complete until I happened to find it on the PS Store.
My suspicion is poor marketing doomed it and nobody played it. Even a google for reviews seems to come up empty regarding anyone who played it past Epi 1. The reviews of that first installment were pretty consistent that the voice acting and writing left something to be desired, but the game’s ideas and vision were intriguing. Perhaps the voice acting and production improved in the latter episodes. Or perhaps it got even worse. I’d like to know before I plop down $15. (Admittedly, not a high price for a game that is less than 8 months old, but still)
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@RogerRoger With the death of Telltale and the fact that Life is Strange 2 is still months away from completion (I much prefer waiting on these episodics until they are all released and then play the game without having to wait between them. Netflix has spoiled us all.) this is the type of game I might just take a chance on as a good palate cleanser between the large epics. I’m already finishing up the wonderful story driven Detroit BH now and then probably moving on to Red Dead 2, so it may be a while before I get to it, but if I do then I will be sure to post my impressions. Unless there is anyone else out there who has already played it ....? [the sound of crickets emanates....]
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