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Ryall

If I’m understanding correctly persona 5R changes and goes beyond the ending of persona five. Persona 5S is the sequel to persona 5R. So I should play persona 5R even if i’ve already completed persona five so that persona 5S will make sense when it comes out.

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Jaz007

@Ryall I’m wondering the same thing lol.

Jaz007

KratosMD

Man I've been watching people play Persona 4 Golden and now I'm really in a mood to play a Persona game. Good thing Persona 5 Royal comes out in a couple of weeks, I'll most likely buy it even though I've already played through the original game. I get that the game is mostly the same but what I think people don't get is that the amount of new content is going to drastically change the experience. The reason why I believe this is because I thought the original P5 felt incredibly lacking in terms of the level of camaraderie. Some characters were introduced late into the game to the team (Akechi and Haru) and there weren't enough meaningful social events in between dungeons and those that were there felt incredibly lacklustre. For example, the one where the gang goes to the beach, the one where they travel to Hawaii and the one where they go to an amusement park. All of these felt incredibly stale and nothing fun really happened. Not to mention that most of them, like the Hawaii and amusement park ones, focused too much on the topic of Phantom Thieves instead of having the characters relax and have fun with each other. As a comparison to P4G, the Investigation Team would rarely talk about the murder cases when they themselves went to the beach or went on that trip to Tatsumi Port Island (the P3 location). The point I'm trying to make here is that the developers have shown us that there'll be more social events in P5R akin to the ones in P4G where the Phantom Thieves just relax and have fun with each other. Moreover, the aforementioned characters will either have revamped social links or be introduced way earlier in order for them to grow on us even more. And overall, there'll simply be more interactions with your team and between each individual party member. This was DESPERATELY needed in the original P5.

I think since P5 was most people's first Persona game, they didn't really have any preconceived expectations of the series so they didn't notice how substandard the social interactions were in the game compared to e.g. P4G. Because I'm telling you right now, P5 is nowhere near as good as P4G in that department.

I also hope that these added interactions will add more humour to the game, which is also desperately needed since it can be too grim and serious most of the time even when you're just supposed to relax and enjoy yourself.

So in conclusion, I strongly believe that all these additional interactions will make for a more wholesome Persona experience compared to the original P5 and that it's definitely worth buying the game again for full price because it won't be the same game. In fact, I think the experience will be significantly different and this is based on how wholesome I felt P4G was versus how lacklustre P5 was. These changes may sound small on paper but for a game that focuses on socialising with people, they are going to be crucial to the overall package. And that's why I think this version is going to win me over where the previous one didn't.

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WCB

Got my copy of the P5R Phantom Theives edition early from EB Games here in Australia just now. I guess they don't know when they'll be forced to shut shop so they are selling now instead of the 31st. Of course they didn't let me know even though I rung the store up Monday, I had to find out by another site.

WCB

WanderingBullet

@WCB That's awesome! How's the quality of the mask?

Huntin' monsters erryday.

WCB

@WanderingBullet I just had a quick look. It's okay, seems solidly made, definitely not something to wear even though you can.

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WanderingBullet

@WCB Thanks, man. Might consider getting the Phantom Thieves Edition if Amazon restocks and makes international shipping available again.

Huntin' monsters erryday.

KratosMD

Wow Persona 5 Royal currently sits at 95 on Metacritic and it shares third place with The Last of Us: Remastered as the highest-scoring games on PS4 of all-time. That's simply incredible!

Currently playing through the game and it's just so nostalgic to me now. I'm already noticing small changes everywhere both in dialogue but also gameplay mechanics. I've also decided to play the game on Normal (compared to Safety when I played it for the first time in 2017) since I think I've gotten better at JRPGs now. So instead of neglecting the dungeon crawling this time around, I'm going to fully embrace both the turn-based battling and socialising with people.

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Jaz007

@KratosMD Bro, I'm so jealous. My copy doesn't release until tomorrow. Part of me hopes this starts scooping up game of the year awards. Screw Last of US 2, P5: the Royal is in town.

Jaz007

KratosMD

@Jaz007 I'd vote for it as my GOTY. There are not many series that can get close to the same level of greatness as the Persona series in my opinion. The only ones that I've played that have are Trails of Cold Steel and Mass Effect trilogy.

Here's the thing though about a game like The Last of Us compared to a game like Persona: TLOU follows the typical Western movie pattern of telling a story, which makes it just as predictable and mediocre as any other action game, while Persona delivers a story that's creative, unique and unexpected in a typical Japanese fashion. Some of the best stories I've experienced in video games, such as Persona, Danganronpa, NieR: Automata and Trails of Cold Steel, come from Japanese developers. They just simply know how to make a story that's interesting and refreshing, not like the same crap we keep getting in every single Western action game.

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KratosMD

Omg yes! They've expanded the soundtrack in P5R! There's a new battle theme now that occurs whenever you get a successful ambush on an enemy. The lack of varied tracks was actually one of my complaints for the first P5 and now they've fixed that! Also, the theme is absolutely superb and I prefer it to "Last Surprise". This game already gets lots of several bonus points from me now compared to the original version.

Moreover, ammunition apparently gets refilled after every battle. How cool isn't that? That changes everything, guns are now actually super useful!

This game is awesome.

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nessisonett

@KratosMD Wow, that makes guns finally useful. The only time I ever used them was if an enemy was weak to them, so that makes guns a viable damage source.

Socks before or after trousers, but never socks before pants, that's the rule. Makes a man look scary, like a chicken.

KratosMD

@nessisonett Yeah and I forgot to mention that they also deal more damage than melee attacks (I'm not sure if that was the case in the original P5 as well), so unless the enemy is resistant to bullets, you should always go for your gun if you want to attack normally. Not to mention that each party member has their own weapon, meaning that you could potentially get through battles much faster now.

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Jaz007

@KratosMD It changed and I got to pick it up today. The CE is so smooth. The steel case is peak, the mask is awesome, the art book is smooth, the boxes it all comes looks incredible. Oooh.
And I forgot about the bullets. That’s pretty exciting as now they’ll be useful for more than flying enemies. An actual tactic now. I’m so excited to start this up again. Lack of a couple items and maxed social stats aside, it’s like a New Game Plus on steroids with all the new content.

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nessisonett

@Jaz007 Ahh New Game Plus, I did mean to play that except I forgot to pick up my item from the twins before leaving. The thought of having to do that whole confidant again made me want to cry so I never did go back.

Socks before or after trousers, but never socks before pants, that's the rule. Makes a man look scary, like a chicken.

Jaz007

I haven’t even started a new game and it’s already more stylish. Dang, this is gonna be good stuff.

Jaz007

KratosMD

@Jaz007 What kind of bonus items did you get at the start of the game for having a P5 save file? Sadly I lost mine so I couldn't get any items, so hopefully they weren't too essential lol.

KratosMD

Jaz007

@KratosMD ¥50,000 and a few healing consumables basically. A bit insulting for having finished P5. Heck, it’s just for having a save file, they did nothing for those who beat the game in full. So yeah, you’re fine.

Jaz007

KratosMD

I'm finding it a bit annoying that Let's Players are still naming the protagonist Akira Kurusu (the manga name) instead of the canon name Ren Amamiya. I actually looked it up and since P5 came out in 2017, there's been a P5 Animation show and in it the protagonist is named Ren Amamiya, which is the canon name. I get it that back in 2017 we didn't have any reference other than the manga so it was fine calling him Akira (which I also did in the original version), but now that we actually have a canon name people should start using it instead of being so steadfast on Akira just because they've gotten used to that name.

I mean people are fine calling the P4 protagonist Yu Narukami, while his manga name is Souji Seta.

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Jaz007

@KratosMD I think the closest thing to it being cannon is the fact that it's in Dancing Star Night. The anime changes things from the game so it's about as cannon as the manga, which is to say it's not. The games are only thing to go on for cannon. If it wasn't for the dancing game, I'd argue there is no cannon name. You know what, I'm might even just say that it's more of a placeholder game and there is no cannon name since it doesn't show up in P5 or P5R. If they wanted to make that name in the game they easily could.

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