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HallowMoonshadow

No worries @Col_McCafferty

The PS3 version of Demon's Souls was my first Souls game.... It took me quite a while for the gameplay to sink in to my thick skull but I got there in the end

I wouldn't say they're as hard as some people might suggest (Though it's definitely not a cakewalk as my first few attempts at Demon's REALLY didn't go well)... It's more having to adjust your way of thinking in how you approach it as a game.

They aren't for everyone though that's for sure.

The PS5 version does look absolutely phenomenal... I can see why it's piqued your curiosity!

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Thrillho

@Col_McCafferty I certainly have a strange relationship with the games as I wouldn’t describe them as ā€œfunā€ per se but I do enjoy them.

The thrill of beating a boss in those games is quite something!

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Col_McCafferty

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Its not just the supposed difficulty of these games that put me off but more how they look and the overall style.

Take Dark Souls for example. I gave watched gameplay footage and have come to two conclusions. 1) the actual gameplay isn't that exciting and 2) it looks really ugly. The aesthetic is just a real turn off for me.

Bloodborne does have a more striking look and maybe I'll give it a whirl through the PS+ Collection on PS5. The gameplay looks better than that in Dark Souls.

When I game I want a challenge and to be excited but I also appreciate the quieter moments. It's why I love open world games, there are intense moments for sure but also plenty of opportunities to stop and smell the flowers so to speak. Oh and there's plenty of humour as well. Dark Souls in particular just looks bleak.

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nessisonett

@Col_McCafferty Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 3 > Bloodborne > Dark Souls 2

The definitive ranking šŸ˜‰

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nessisonett

@Thrillho I know, I know, it should have been bottom but I included the DLC šŸ˜‰

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HallowMoonshadow

I'd put bloodborne last of those four... Only beating Demon's PS3 by how dated it is @Thrillho

Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls > Dark Souls 2 > Bloodborne > Demon's Souls (PS3)

That's my ranking lol


Well I can't deny that the graphics aren't the greatest @Col_McCafferty in any of the FromSoftware games.They do have some stunning art direction though which to me more then makes up for the lack of graphical polish.

The gameplay certainly improves with each entry as it goes along. Dark Souls 3 is just as good as Bloodborne on the gameplay front and hopefully the Demon's Souls remake picks up all that Fromsoft has done since with the series!

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nessisonett

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Honestly, I wouldn’t say that Bloodborne or Dark Souls 3 have ā€˜better’ gameplay than 1, just different. General jank is ironed out a bit though, that’s for sure. And yeah, after replaying Dark Souls 2 recently for hopefully the last time ever, that game is balls. Absolutely balls. I’m not typically one to pile onto some oft-maligned games and I do like some bad games but there are so many frustrating design choices in that game. It does have pretty scenes though, Majula looks incredible on my TV and I don’t think the game even supports HDR.

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Col_McCafferty

@nessisonett I'll take your word for it although out of those Bloodborne has the more interesting aesthetic and lore.

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nessisonett

@Col_McCafferty I hate the Soulsborne approach to lore, hate it with a passion. I shouldn’t have to Google the Wiki or complete an obscure sidequest to understand the literal main plot of the game. Metroid Prime and Hollow Knight did it way better, each with different approaches.

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nessisonett

@TheFrenchiestFry I’ve played that game many many times. It has the most interesting bosses, settings and I love the methodical gameplay. I’d still go back to it and I am actually sort of in the middle of a playthrough. If they remade it properly instead of the remaster, it would be one of the best games ever made, no doubt about it. Bloodborne and 2 have annoying design issues that hold them back and 3 just isn’t quite as memorable on an area to area basis.

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Thrillho

The thing I loved about DS1 was how the world was completely connected and it was a shame that DS3 went down the route of bonfire teleporting completely.

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HallowMoonshadow

Lol sorry @Thrillho!


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@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Honestly, I wouldn’t say that Bloodborne or Dark Souls 3 have ā€˜better’ gameplay than 1, just different. General jank is ironed out a bit though, that’s for sure. And yeah, after replaying Dark Souls 2 recently for hopefully the last time ever, that game is balls. Absolutely balls. I’m not typically one to pile onto some oft-maligned games and I do like some bad games but there are so many frustrating design choices in that game. It does have pretty scenes though, Majula looks incredible on my TV and I don’t think the game even supports HDR.

Yeah apologies @nessisonett I was more refering to the the jank being ironed out of the combat rather then necessarily saying they're better as you say they quite different.

Heide's Tower Of Flame is probably my favourite location from DS2... Majula however is stunning as you say too. I won't deny your other misgivings with it but I'm able to look past them a little.

I'm enjoying my time with Dark Souls Remastered and as you say if it had a proper remake then the barebones remaster it would probably reclaim the top spot for me as like @Thrillho says the interconnected world is ace, many of the locations are quite memorable and there are some pretty neat bosses too.

... Well except the Capra Demon who's just kinda there in that tiny as hell arena

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nessisonett

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Oh yeah, Capra Demon can take its bony ass and go sit in the corner. There’s always that one boss nobody likes šŸ˜‚

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Th3solution

@nessisonett I usually quite like the cryptic nature of certain games (and movies) lore, as long as it’s not terribly half-baked or incomprehensible. The best narrative has at least some semblance of logic and direction at face value and then has deeper context if you do go the extra mile and research the online theories and such. I think Bloodborne fits the bill pretty well. I can’t say for the Dark Souls trilogy since I haven’t played them all. Perhaps it’s too obscure. Like, I’ve heard horror stories about Kingdom Hearts narrative, which seems to be the one end of the spectrum of nonsensical plot and lore. With the other end of the spectrum being ... oh, I don’t know, maybe Knack. šŸ˜…

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nessisonett

@Thrillho Oh wow, 9 years! It actually holds up rather well to be honest, that’s the same difference in time from now than between Skyrim (also from 2011) and Morrowind (2002). Scary stuff.

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