Topic: Cyberpunk 2077 OT

Interesting early comparison here. Xbox One/PS4 versions are both blurry as hell. PS4 hovers around the low-to-mid 20s framerate-wise, and the Xbone S can barely crack 20fps most of the time, apparently.

This is running significantly worse on PS4 than TW3 runs on Nintendo Switch.

I played a good 4 hours last but didn't get very far because I done the classic 'I'm not happy with my created character so I'll start again' a couple of times. I know it's first person and you don't see your character but it was bugging whenever I saw her in the menu or photo mode. Plus I was a bit gutted that it didn't have the original female V as a preset so I spent a while trying to create her.

I chose the Streetkid life and started off in a neon lit, smoke filled bar which I instantly thought looked fantastic. Exited that into a back alley and was buzzing when I saw how big the surrounding buildings of Night City were. There were plenty of npcs about just in those two locations and the atmospheric sound is so so good. Not witnessed any bugs so far and had some occasional choppy framerate but all in all I think it looks soooooo much better than I though it would on an original PS4.

Another hour kip then I'm back to smashing this all day!

@ApostateMage

So, you don't think it looks that bad on the base PS4? I saw a comparison video and the PS4 version didn't look that great. Honestly I kind of thought it looked a bit awful, but I could be wrong. I was thinking about buying the game, but now I think I'm just gonna wait until the game gets discounted.

@TheOtherEden No mate, I think it looks great. It's moody, got some gorgeous lighting and looks the part for the tone of the game. I play with HDR on but it still looks great without it. Playing it yourself is totally different to watching people pick apart graphical differences and go bug hunting in YouTube videos.

@ApostateMage I'm playing it on One X and think it looks great, ironically it feels more like a next gen game then any other I've played. Its clear that it's a scaled back version graphically to get it running but the amount of detail in the brief part of the world I've seen is staggering

@nessisonett damn that's awefull.

hope you are feeling ok again!

and you find a solution.

@ApostateMage Thanks for sharing your initial thoughts on the game. Sounds promising and not a total car crash that some are making it out to be. Just waiting on Amazon Prime delivery person for mine. It is not out for delivery yet, so won't get it until this afternoon at the earliest by the looks of it.

Apparently on base ps4 the game runs pretty poorly.

@Mega-Gazz the more I see of this online, the more I think they should just have abandoned the current gen versions. Actually if it wasn't for the One X and Pro I suspect they probably would have

@Thrillho I guess I was unlucky with day 1 W3. I got constant crashes and stuttering. Also, the inventory size issue drove me crazy.

These look cute.

@Ralizah "This is running significantly worse on PS4 than TW3 runs on Nintendo Switch."
To be fair, TW3 came out 2 years before the Switch whereas Cyberpunk 2077 came out 7 years, nearly 8, after the PS4 and XB1. It's like comparing the PS1 running a SNES game to the PS1 trying to run a PS2 game in terms of the time period between them.

@nessisonett I know how that feels. I got the same thing with FFXV and The Last Guardian on a base PS4. It felt like I drank a drink someone had spiked. And my friend had to have a lie down while fighting off nausea after playing Skyrim VR, but that's VR itself more than the game.

@Matroska The Switch is handheld though. It’s more like comparing the GBA running an N64 game to a 3DS running Spider-Man. Both of which are improbable in their own way.

Yep, had to go have a lie down as it just wasn’t shifting. VR does wreck me but that’s more motion sickness than anything.

@nessisonett The handheld defense doesn't work that well when it's marketed as both, though. I don't think it'd matter if it was a pure home console; Nintendo have released very underpowered hardware from the Wii onwards. Imagine PS3 games like TLOU running on a Wii. I'd say it's more like a PS1 game running at sub 30fps with dramatically reduced graphics on a PSP.

@Matroska I dunno, as much as Switch games get boosted for TV, it’s a handheld at the base level, same way as Cyberpunk had to run on the original PS4.

@Matroska I don't really see that as being particularly relevant for a few reasons.

• PS4 vs Switch is comparing home console technology to mobile/handheld technology. Regardless of what Nintendo markets it as, it's a device designed to play games on a battery in your hands like a 3DS or GBA SP.
• In the age of multiplatform game development, the best optimized and running games often release later in the life-cycle of a console. Compare something like Fallout 4 and its trials on home consoles vs Ghost of Tsushima or any of the newish Ubisoft open world games that run fairly well on PS4. Heck, even The Witcher 3, which you make sound like a potato of a game, struggled to run well on PS4 until it was patched a few times.
• Cyberpunk 2077 isn't a game that only started development a few years ago. Its first teaser trailer was literally uploaded almost a year before the launch of the PS4.

Anyway, regardless of all that, my point wasn't: "TW3 Switch Good; Cyberpunk 2077 PS4 Bad!" Rather, the Switch port of the TW3 sits on the bleeding edge of what many people, myself included, would consider acceptable standards of performance. It's just fascinating to see an ostensibly current-gen release on home consoles fall well short of that. This is, as far as I can tell, easily the most poorly optimized major release on PS4/Xbox One.

It's also going to be interesting to see how many people rush to CDPR's defense, when they would have savaged another company for releasing a game on PS4 in this state.

@carlos82 Looking back, CDPR described performance on the base current gen consoles as "surprisingly good” fairly recently. They had to have known that was an outright lie, but I'm guessing they didn't want to lose sales by telling people that the experience would be severely compromised on anything weaker than a PS4 Pro.

@Ralizah 8 million pre-orders means CDPR will ‘please understand’ their way to the bank. Wonder what the Steam refund numbers are like.

For anyone who wants just a slice of PS4 footage without any critical/angry commentary about performance, here's another example of how the game runs:

@nessisonett How much you want to bet the "good guy CDPR" reputation will survive without a scratch, despite this being one of the most "anti-consumer" (hate that term) and dishonest strategies I've seen a company employ to date? Literally lying to the public so that preorder numbers don't tumble.

Maybe they've included another one of those "tank u so much fer playin our gaem" messages in the physical version. That'll make it all better.

@Ralizah Poor games like Arkham Knight are crying in the corner right now as they weren’t given this amount of leeway. Like I’ve said before, I’d rather the game be good so that I can play a good game but it’s the massive double standards that do my head in. This comes only a couple of weeks after Push Square itself mauled the PS4 versions of Watch Dogs and Assassin’s Creed for having unacceptable levels of bugs. There’s no chance in hell points will be docked though, sites are too scared to not give it a positive review given the abuse some reviewers have been receiving.

I'm playing this on Xbox One X, so effectively the best chance it had on current gen systems but it reminds me of a Switch game its so blurry at times. Other times it looks good but the resolution drops hard in some scenarios and I feel they probably should have shifted focus exclusively to next gen during development.

So far I've only had a minor bug during the training mission where it would simulate stick drift when finishing a task and framerate wise its perfectly playable. That said I may just wait for the true next gen version as there's a lot to come from this visually.

There's no way any of the console versions of this should be getting anything like a 9 in its current state though