Topic: Team Microtransactions (MTX) PS3 Library Deliberation Thread

@Ralizah @leucocyte @LieutenantFatman @Rudy_Manchego @Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy
We will continue using the same score set up as @BAMozzy defined.
1-5 | Pointless to Very Important. This will take place Tues - Wed. At the end of Wed, the spread sheet will be updated based upon the average scores. These will be marked as orange.
Then we have realistically Thurs - Fri to discuss the others that have not been placed.

That Ok with every one? Currently adding a new tab to the spread sheet for us to add scores too

@leucocyte I will defo look at the game allocation on the next batch. You've been hit hard there.

Although if you do have all of the games in one franchise you can come to a clearer conclusion. Hmmmm.

Either way you will have a mixed bag next time.

Here is what I've played:

Call of Duty 3 - Not important (2) - although it's the only CoD game (afair) that experimented with 24-player multiplayer, it's not actually a very good game. not even sure if it uses the same engine as modern warfare, as it felt very clunky.

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - Important (4) - i think the controversy over the no russian level overshadows this a bit, though it was the start of the OTT bombast that permeated the campaigns. lacks the diversity and standout moments from the original. had a good spec-ops co-op mode, but it eventually got ditched in favour of zombies. start of the decline of the multiplayer for me personally, the obsession with killstreaks and perks became a balancing disaster, and i say that as somebody with a 2.37 k/d on it!

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Not important (2) - i think was made during the fallout between IW and activision?. regardless, the campaign is brief (i finished it in less than 3.5 hours), and the multiplayer is uninspired. quite frankly it rides the coattails of the MW brand, living in its shadow, imo. if there were any of the post-MW games that i'd suggest to be skipped, it's this one.

Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare - Existing (3) - i played this on PS4, so i don't really know how to judge its impact, as i don't know what the PS3 version did and didn't have. was the first one to really add a whole new movement set with its boost jumping , etc. that natural conclusion of that ended up being quite divisive, and the last couple have gone back to the 'boots on the ground' mantra.

Call of Duty: Black Ops Treyarch - Important (4) - controversially it had you kill castro during the campaign. it's the best competitive multiplayer the franchise has had since MW/world at war imo, i haven't really liked (and subsequently didn't bother much with) any of them since. it's also sold something like 26m copies.

Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Important (4) - first one to take CoD into the future, adding new tech gadgets, and weapons not based on real-life counterparts. if i recall, the campaign allowed you to get two different endings, and it experimented with a non-quite-completely-linear structure.

Call of Duty: Black Ops III - Not important (2) - the PS3 version of this only has the multiplayer (and i think was the first one to run at 30fps). i considered putting it as pointless for just that reason.

Call of Duty: Ghosts - Existing (3) - to be honest, i don't recall a lot about this one, except the dog, and the story was based around a father and his two sons.

Call of Duty: World at War - Very important (5) - i've rated this very important simply because of the impact of the zombie mode, that almost become a phenomenon in its own right. it also had 4-player co-op for the entire campaign, and a score-attack mode, if i recall. the campaign isn't that great, though following modern warfare was going to be a tall order, and the actual tone of the game left a bit of a bad taste for me. apart from the original MW, this the best CoD multiplayer got, as it was fairly restrained on the OTT killstreaks and perks.

Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood - Not important (2) - western shooter set just before and after the american civil war, that allowed you to play as two brothers, and they did have distinctive playstyles. if i recall you could choose which character to play before the start of each level, the game is ten years old, so my recollection is of an adequate first person shooter with a few tech issues (it was made by techland after all) but nothing particularly outstanding going for it. it also had multiplayer with wanted, manhunt, posse etc. modes which were more or less similar to traditional modes, it was ok, but not something anyone would put a lot time to, especially when it came out not longer after killzone 2, and the original bad company, and modern warfare/world at war were still going strong. i looked on metacritic and the PS3 version has an average of 78 (33 positive, 17 mixed), so maybe i am doing it a little bit of injustice, so wouldn't be opposed to ranking it a level higher.

for most of these, i wouldn't be too bothered if any were moved up or down a level from my rating.

Welcome @kyleforrester87! you will find the link to our spreadsheet sheet a few posts up and our process of preliminary choices in my last post.
Update the spreadsheet with your scores and I will lock games based upon the averages.
If you then want to move a game that is already orange, it needa to be discussed. If it has not been assigned yet, move it and colour it orange for others to see.
Any questions, give any of us a shout.

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy, are you on this team now? If so, welcome!

@leucocyte wow that is pretty much how I would rate those same games. Good work.

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy world at war did set the world on fire with the zombie mode. It added a new style of multiplayer where team work is key.
But I have more memories of Black Ops Zombie Mode and i think that was because it was when I was at Uni with no kids. Played it every day.

So what score would you give it? 4 or 5 so I can update the spreadsheet

So, I played none of the current games, do I rate it on my opinion regardless?

@kyleforrester87 In this 1st stage it is all about personal views on the games. So if you have not played any, it would not be worth it.
Once this part is finished tonight, we will move onto the none placed games & they will be dished out between the members of the team

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy As it seems no one has played these games, I would leave them until we tally up the averages of the games that have been scored. We will then dish out the remaining games, place them and them we should have a day or two to discuss if we are happy with the placements

@Ralizah @leucocyte @LieutenantFatman @Rudy_Manchego @Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy @kyleforrester87
The spread sheet has been updated based upon the scores given. If you have any concerns about the current orange games, raise it here and we will discuss it.
Now is the fun task, sorting out the ones we are not sure about. 21 games left, 7 of us, pick 3 each& start researching! We need to lock this list down my Saturday afternoon.

LieutenantFatman
Buzz!: Brain of the World Relentless Software
Buzz!: Quiz World Relentless Software
Buzz!: The Ultimate Music Quiz Relentless Software

Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy
Cabela's Dangerous Hunts 2009 Sand Grain Studios
Cabela's Dangerous Hunts 2011 Activision
Cabela's Dangerous Hunts 2013 Activision

leucocyte
Call of Juarez: The Cartel Techland
Captain Morgane and the Golden Turtle WizarBox
Carnival Island Magic Pixel Games

Ralizah
Cars 2: The Video Game Disney Interactive Studios
Cars 3: Driven to Win Disney Interactive Studios
Cars Mater-National Championship Rainbow Studios

kyleforrester87
Cabela's Big Game Hunter 2010 Cauldron HQ
Cabela's Big Game Hunter 2012 Cauldron HQ
Cabela's Big Game Hunter: Pro Hunts Cauldron

Rudy_Manchego
Cabela's Adventure Camp Cauldron
Cabela's African Adventures Activision
Cabela's Hunting Expeditions Fun Labs

Zed
Cabela's North American Adventures Fun Labs
Cabela's Outdoor Adventures Activision
Cabelas Survival: Shadows of Katmai Fun Labs

@ZeD
Ok I'll look into the buzz! games as I always have an interest in party games.

@ZeD
i will take:
Call of Juarez: The Cartel (since I've played the other Call of Juarez game)
Captain Morgane and the Golden Turtle
Carnival Island Magic

@ZeD

Cars 2: The Video Game Disney Interactive Studios
Cars 3: Driven to Win Disney Interactive Studios
Cars Mater-National Championship Rainbow Studios

Some top tier gaming there...

Cabela's Big Game Hunter 2010 Cauldron HQ
Cabela's Big Game Hunter 2012 Cauldron HQ
Cabela's Big Game Hunter: Pro Hunts Cauldron

I guess..!

I'm not sure I want to meet the person who owns 12 hunting games on the same system. Maybe they keep their Cabela's collection next to their collection of murdered deer whose heads they have mounted on their wall.

Hi team, sorry been busy this week with work and getting my A kicked at Sekiro. Is there any games left for me to check out?

In terms of the list, took a quick squizz and I can't argue too much with the rankings. I might pop Black Ops 2 down a notch personally but I haven't played much of that except in MP with a friend.

@Rudy_Manchego no worries. We have six left. Pick three and I will look at tge other three.
Cabela's Adventure Camp Cauldron
Cabela's African Adventures Activision

Cabela's Hunting Expeditions Fun Labs
Cabela's North American Adventures Fun Labs
Cabela's Outdoor Adventures Activision
Cabelas Survival: Shadows of Katmai Fun Labs

@Ralizah Probably the same type of person who sneaks into an animal reserve at night to kill elephants and then ends up getting eaten by lions.

@ZeD I will take the top three:

Cabela's Adventure Camp Cauldron
Cabela's African Adventures Activision

Cabela's Hunting Expeditions Fun Labs

I assume I know where they are going but I will do my due diligence!

@RogerRoger Don't worry, to be honest I feel that the subject matter will be covered in the game. I'm not sure how you can make a good game out of killing animals! But if it got 9 or 10's across the board, I'd have to respect that in the rankings.

@RogerRoger I definitely agree. I detest any reviewer who marks a film or game down because they're uncomfortable with the subject matter, and I'll call that out whenever I see it. Don't like fanservice? Then don't review a fanservice-heavy action game like Senran Kagura. Don't like the idea of killing animals for sport? Then you have no business reviewing a hunting game. And so on.

Fantasy is fantasy, and almost any sort of subject matter will have its fans, and those fans deserve for their preferred form of media to get a fair analysis without the reviewer interjecting their unwanted moral waffling into the mix. Anyone can offer an opinion online, but a reviewer is supposed to possess the analytical skill and writing ability to communicate the good and the bad aspects of anything their play, watch, read, etc.