Topic: PS4 Destiny Meet Up Thread

@xX_RiscazZ_Xx: I guess its a case of each to their own and what someone else likes another maybe doesn't. At least there is a range of options to suit most needs. Personally I would take Red Death as my Exotic pulse of choice as that has saved my life a LOT. Bad Juju was very bad when the game launched but after several patches its become a good Pulse - still not as accurate as No time to Explain with its very stable 'pulse' but the perks are slightly better overall in my opinion.

The Raid Auto isn't great. After trying to max out its stability, its still a bit bouncy but as someone who used Nechrochasm, Atheons Epilogue type weapons, I don't find it that bad to control. Personally I rank this as the 3rd best primary from the Raid and don't often use mine. The Scout rifle is by far the best and my most used weapon overall - It can drop with the Full Auto perk too. The pulse is 2nd especially with the Firefly or even the Health Regen perk. I know the health regen doesn't work as often as the Red Death perk but if you wanted a legendary version, this is the closest and allows you to use an Exotic in another slot - something like Black Spindle or Sleeper Simulant for example. The Hand Cannon is probably my least favourite of the primaries. Its got a very slow reload, very low stability etc. It can have firefly although mine doesn't but I would still prefer to take all other primaries in preference.

In terms of secondaries, I like the Sniper although I rarely use it for raiding. Again this can have the firefly perk but its not the high impact style of sniper. The Shotgun is OK although i don't really use them and as someone who prefers Fusions over shotguns in general, I am more likely to equip the raid shotty than fusion - so that says it all!

In terms of Heavies, the LMG is a beast for both PvE and PvP. Its a very high impact type and accurate too. Its my most equipped heavy. The Rocket Launcher is OK I guess - It can have Tracking or Cluster (not both) so it could depend on the situation (do you need to clear mobs or hit a single moving target?) although Titans with the Taikonaut helm can get tracking anyway.

This is my opinion but as I never really play PvP, its purely based on the content I play. For example a PvP player may think the Shotgun is a beast or terrible compared to another. It also depends on the situation and content you are playing too. For Raiding, I always start with the Raid Scout and LMG with the Black Spindle until after Golgoroth and then swap to Touch of Malice and 1000 yard stare. I know others that don't have the Black Spindle take the Sleeper Simulant instead. I much prefer Swords though in Court of Oryx. Depending on the Strike, level and maybe modifiers (NF) will also determine my loadout - for example I may opt for the Raid pulse with Firefly if there are a lot of low tier enemies grouped together and in close proximity.

I guess what I am trying to say though is that what suits one in a certain situation may not suit another. This is just my opinion and yours could very easily differ and certain weapons maybe suited to your playstyle and needs than mine.

As for the Hard Raid this Weekend, count me in!

@BAMozzy: Makes two then!

Thanks for the comprehensive analysis of all those, I'll give the pulse a good hard look as soon as I get it again, but even now, with decent stability in my auto riffle, I'm good for add clean up in the raid.

As far as raid load out goes, I'm beginning to default to Hung Jury, Eirene and Sleeper until Golgoroth and ToM, Eirine and Ruin Wake to the end, stupidly got rid of the legendary sword on my main, but LMG it works for the shadow of Oryx.

Anyone else up for Hard Mode? Light level at least 300, ideally 305, but I just want to run it, even if we don't kill Oryx, it is cool by me, get some rewards for it either way.

I'm in for hard mode over the weekend. Either Friday night or Saturday night is best for me.

That's certainly not a bad load-out for the Raid at all! I do have the Eirene but as I have a higher attack 1000 yard stare (with Firefly) that's my 'legendary' sniper of choice and Eirene has similar RoF/Impact. It is however, not as accessible for many unless they happen to have ranked up their gunsmith and opted to purchase it when offered.

Hung Jury is probably the best legendary Scout Rifle available to buy. It's potentially better than the Raid Scout - especially with Triple Tap and Firefly but I prefer the aesthetics, particularly the sights of the Raid weapons and it certainly hasn't let me down either.

As I have Black Spindle at 310, I use this in the first half as it has a higher Damage over time than Sleeper Simulant. i know the SS hits harder per shot but the fact that I have 18 (min) shots and don't need to reload (if I hit crits - easy on Warpriest/Golgoroth) means that my overall damage output is possibly higher overall this way.

The LMG is a no-brainer in terms of the heavy slot. None of the boss fights are suited to swords and being in such close proximity to others, a Rocket Launcher isn't that great - they also don't have 'critical' damage like the SS and LMG's either. The LMG is useful at all stages of the Raid - even if it isn't always the first choice in most situations - ie switching to it when your sniper ammo runs out. Its what I use on the Shadow as a first choice option.

As I have said before, the best load-out you can buy from Vendors for the Raid (at least the Normal one) is the Hung Jury from Dead Orbit (Scout, Primary), the 1,000 Yard Stare from the Vanguard (Sniper, Special) and either the Ruin Wake from the Crucible or Objection IV from New Monarchy (LMG, Heavy). I don't include Eirene (sniper) purely because its not always available where as all the others are and if you needed a decent sniper in the next week or so, the Eirene (currently) is not an option.

The Hard Raid is recommended light 310 - like the normal is 290. I can easily believe that the final stages though will be at light 320 like the normal is at 300. It would be very difficult to beat at 300 - similar to trying to beat the Normal at 280 but with the extra difficulty of additional mechanics (possibly even the 'no revive' option from previous Hard Raids). If people want to run the Raid on Normal first to try and get better gear and therefore a chance to boost their light level, I am certainly willing to help. I don't know that I will be available tomorrow (friday) evening as I will be doing the Hard Raid on my other platform with my Raid group but available to help before and no doubt over the weekend too before attempting it on PS4. I am sure we could get through a few Normal raids before the Hard raid becomes available anyway.

@ShogunRok: @BAMozzy: Has to be Friday night for me I'm afraid, Saturdays are very VERY busy.

@GRIFFEN14 @mrobinson91 @kyleforrester87 @Bhizzle26 @Bad-MuthaAdebisi @Johnnycide 3 Spots left.

I think that to make it fairer on everyone and as this is going to be brutal, Friday night once we are about to start, if we have more people than spaces, it goes by light level. I don't think I'll have much time Friday night, certainly not looking to be there until 2 AM. There is still time to work on that, and hopefully it will translate into quicker raid.

It might also be the case, that people will just trickle down slowly and we don't need to turn anyone away, of course.

@xX_RiscazZ_Xx: count me in Friday, depending on start time. 304 now with 308 hung jury, 300 1000 yard stare and crappy lmg at 294

@xX_RiscazZ_Xx: haven't beaten the thing on normal yet so I'm out. If you're stuck then I'll jump in but I'm still only 296 at the moment.
I'll be playing tonight and tomorrow though so we'll see.
I'm going to be doing the raid with Scott and zero on Saturday anyway (hopefully, as I've been trying for weeks now) so should finally get over 300 this weekend.

*EDIT: I don't finish work til 8.30 tomorrow night so couldn't do it anyway. Arse.

@Johnnycide: I'll try help out with the Raid Saturday if you end up doing it and probably have another friend if needs be

Like I said, if anyone wants help or needs an extra person to do the raid, I am available. I won't be available on Friday night this week but generally Fridays shouldn't be a problem. Its just that the 'Hard' Raid starts on Friday and my XB1 group have planned to attempt it. Depending on how successful we are will govern my availability over the weekend - If successful for example, I won't need to be trying to finish it off.

If anyone wants to try the Normal raid today or even tomorrow day-time, I am available.

Also down with doing the normal raid this week, I could even do that tonight, potentially.

@mrobinson91: that sounds good to me. Think Taime, Scott and Zero are definitely in as well so that makes at least 4.

@ShogunRok: now that might be doable. Long as I can get on early enough.

No wait, forgot about Liverpool game. I can get on when it's done, which will be about 10PM. Not sure if that's still useful.

Yea I'm good for Friday as well. Light Level 306 and I have Touch of Malice and whatnot

@Johnnycide: @mrobinson91: The raid will be this Saturday, so I'd like to know if everyone will make it. Also lets point out the location of the Calcified fragments just in case I'm not the only one who needs them.

Apologies people but I may not be around tonight for Raiding or whatever it is we have planned. I'll let you know via the PSN group if I am.

I bought Hung Jury by the way - what a beast of a legendary!

@Bad-MuthaAdebisi: @Johnnycide: @ShogunRok: @BAMozzy: @xX_RiscazZ_Xx: @ZeroXyko14: @kyleforrester87:

Kings Fall - So I’ve been thinking about the best way to approach Zero having no mic, and I think it’s possible. I’ve come up with strategies but feel free to edit/improve on these. I’m aware there may be more efficient ways to do this but in terms of making things easier for us all, I think the below looks good.

First Section – Zero stays in middle room, add duty and door clearing.
Jumping Puzzle – Just listening to someone, no real communication required.
Totems – Listen for advice and be designated a side, emote when 10 seconds left until aura passes to next person on totem
War priest – Add duty, not assigned a platform and then just listening to others instructions
Golgoroth – Add duty, not assigned to gaze holder, Zero has a tether
Jumping Puzzle – Listen (and laugh to yourself as it’s pretty funny!)
Daughters – Add duty, not assigned a platform (explain what to do if Zero is picked as runner, and then use an emote if it is you and we’ll just try it)
Oryx – Add duty, not assigned a platform, add duty, tether/DPS

I still think it’s worth explaining all the mechanics so that if ran in the future we could change roles.
Watching it on youtube a few times may be a good idea too just to speed things along.

General emotes:
Where? = wave
Yes = Dance
No = Point

I..still havn't done this raid. I'm reading all your messages in the group I've just not had a guaranteed 3-4 hours where I know I'll be able to get through it, and 1-2am is just a bit too late for me during week nights! Hope I can play this weekend if you all are, I'm still stuck around 295 and need a few higher level items now!

@mrobinson91: Its certainly possible with 1 person not communicating (or able to). Using an emote at the totems 5secs before the transfer of the brand - so the other person can prepare for the knight at the top would work. At the Warpriest, Zero would never be the last to stand on a platform and therefore not have the Aura. They would have to be with someone though that is happy and capable to take the Aura should the last platform be them. At Golgoroth, Zero just does DPS on Golgoroth. At the Daughters and Oryx, they are on add duty. If they have to do the running, then those on a Platform near the relic can call out when they have it. Its pretty obvious who the runner is and there is a bit of time between each run.

The only issue (although not major) is communicating when they have a Super/tether for Warpriest/Golgoroth. You don't want two hitting at the same time ideally when you can use both during each phase for more prolonged damage. Tether on the daughters isn't that great anyway as it makes them cover their faces making it difficult to hit the optimum criticals. Its also doesn't work on Oryx. Its useful for the Vessel and Echo though but these are spaced out events and time to charge your super between them - especially if on Add Duty. I would rather see two used simultaneously than none anyway.

The good thing though is that Zero can hear our communication so its a lot less of an issue. Obviously if they have any questions about anything, that can be a bit more tricky but not insurmountable...