@UltimateOtaku91 You can deflect the conversation all you want in order to make up for your disappointment, but the reality is PlayStation have been making exactly the same steps into multiplatform as Microsoft has...first the PC, then mobile, Live Service games, acquiring studios keeping games multiplatform like Bungie and now into other platforms with Lego Horizon...it's just taking them longer to go full circle.
Heck there are actual rumors that Lego Horizon might actually be on Xbox and not on PS4.
@johnedwin Remember when people used to say: PlayStation would never release their games on PC or any other platform.....well many have put their foot in their mouth ever since.....With Sony you should never say "They Never Do That"
@PSDeckSwitchOwner : You can think otherwise but in reality the reason why this deal felt through is possibly because Kadokawa didn't want a messy deal with any other companies including Microsoft opposing it.
@PSDeckSwitchOwner : Microsoft has plenty of reasons to stop any potential Sony acquisition, as I said before Sony is the biggest gaming entity in size and that alone Microsoft has a valid reason to bring up an opposition.
@PSDeckSwitchOwner sorry but that's not happening.
Sony is still the biggest gaming company in size which means they only have one option which is acquiring individual IPS no publishers, unless they want to set off a Cascade of complaints from the European and American authorities and Microsoft would complain as well.
@tameshiyaku : I'm not sure what games you played in the past but I have games from 3 generations prior I don't recall needing a day 1 patch to start the game never mind a forced online connectivity to play single player levels.
Could the older games used a better optimization?...sure...but even today we can't seem to get any game to run without an issue even after 20 initial patches and constant balance updates.
@tameshiyaku : The fact that it requires a connection to even start the game is an issue all on its own... while The Crew, For Honor and others are just plain criminal to just demand connection at all times.
"PlayStation wouldn't charge for online gaming...guess what happened"
Then people said:
"PlayStation would never bring their games on PC"
Not soon after, that's exactly what happened.
Then again people said:
"PlayStation wouldn't release their games on PC on day 1"...only for Sony start doing it with Helldivers 2.
And yet again people said:
"PlayStation wouldn't release games on other consoles"...then we see Lego Horizon on the Switch... on Day 1 to make matters worst.
So have you noticed how people keep moving the goal pole further and further with every playstation shifting.
And that won't stop there as in reality Sony already knows that offline single player games are only stealing away profits....the shift will happen is just a matter of time.
@ChrisDeku : Look all around you, most companies that used to sell you something are only now selling you a subscription...we can like it or not but since gamers are now chosing digital over physical games that only makes subscriptions even more appealing.
Heck Sony is the first ones pushing for LIVE-SERVICE games more than anybody because they realized that selling you a game it doesn't make enough money for them...it's just a matter of time until they enclose those games on a subscription only tier.
@themightyant : I'm old-school , I'm all about physical games and hardware exclusivity, but even PlayStation's all mighty Shawn Layden have recognized that hardware sales and exclusivities won't mean nothing at the rate the market is shifting.
Make no mistake Microsoft is already preparing for that future, and so far PlayStation now releasing games for the Switch is a strong indication of the inevitable....multiplatform games all across is their only way to be truly profitable.
@themightyant :
Of course Microsoft needs money coming from else where, that elsewhere is the competition the more they release at full price on playstation the more it will sustain GamePass subscribers.
Microsoft's priority is not to sell Xbox games but eventually turn everyone into a subscriber.
Very smart strategy that will take years but it will eventually come through.as more people keep choosing digital over physical gaming.
@Mikey856 : Gamepass exist for the same reason Netflix, AmazonVideo, DisneyPlus exist.... Subscriptions bring more money than selling you the item.
GamePass is their present and future they are not going back on just selling you a game.
Microsoft's ultimately will stop selling games and only have them available through GamePass...they are making sure they get enough people on the PlayStation side loving the Xbox games.
@themightyant Microsoft don't care about game sales, their main priority is GamePass subscribers...the longer the game stays on GamePass the longer other people would be likely join....they already know GamePass subscribers are not meant to buy games.
The only question here is, play it on GamePass for a fraction of the price or wait 6 more months at full price.
@themightyant : Ever heard of a V.I.P pass? When you go to the concert you only get the best possible options if you pay more, so if you pay more you can play the game quicker...the system is fair even if we don't agree with it.
And about if PlayStation gamers would buy the game 6 months later then that would tell Microsoft it's not worth putting games on PlayStation moving forward.
Microsoft's strategy is quite fair, GamePass subscribers get to play it on Day 1 for a fraction of the price while PlayStation gamers get to play it as well but 6 months later at full price.
@MaelysLeFleau : How much longer you think Square Enix is going to keep the servers alive while not producing many new money for them through new content?
@torquex Perhaps you never tried Xdefiant (which I don't blame you) otherwise you wouldn't be comparing it with Fortnite which is like comparing Mario with Sonic just because they both can jump.
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Re: Sony Becomes Kadokawa's Biggest Shareholder As Companies Form Alliance
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@LogicStrikesAgain : I guess we have to wait until someone leaks the truth....which it won't take long.
Re: Sony Becomes Kadokawa's Biggest Shareholder As Companies Form Alliance
@UltimateOtaku91 You can deflect the conversation all you want in order to make up for your disappointment, but the reality is PlayStation have been making exactly the same steps into multiplatform as Microsoft has...first the PC, then mobile, Live Service games, acquiring studios keeping games multiplatform like Bungie and now into other platforms with Lego Horizon...it's just taking them longer to go full circle.
Heck there are actual rumors that Lego Horizon might actually be on Xbox and not on PS4.
Re: Sony Becomes Kadokawa's Biggest Shareholder As Companies Form Alliance
@johnedwin Remember when people used to say: PlayStation would never release their games on PC or any other platform.....well many have put their foot in their mouth ever since.....With Sony you should never say "They Never Do That"
Re: Sony Becomes Kadokawa's Biggest Shareholder As Companies Form Alliance
@PSDeckSwitchOwner : You can think otherwise but in reality the reason why this deal felt through is possibly because Kadokawa didn't want a messy deal with any other companies including Microsoft opposing it.
Re: Sony Becomes Kadokawa's Biggest Shareholder As Companies Form Alliance
@Slayer25c : any company PlayStation thinks to acquire Microsoft will have a saying about it....and the market authorities will be there to listen.
Re: Sony Becomes Kadokawa's Biggest Shareholder As Companies Form Alliance
@UltimateOtaku91 : Just the "souls games" ???
that's like saying "Just what's popular in gaming right now"
You can try to play it down all you want, but you know it is a huge blow for everything and everyone with PlayStation.
Re: Sony Becomes Kadokawa's Biggest Shareholder As Companies Form Alliance
@LogicStrikesAgain :
Tencent at one point had as much as a 15% and Nintendo never caved in to any of their requests.
So Sony having a 10% investment in that company means nothing.
Re: Sony Becomes Kadokawa's Biggest Shareholder As Companies Form Alliance
Sony just has a 10% investment?
That means nothing as for example Tencent had an even a bigger investment on Nintendo and they still didn't have any influence over them.
Re: Sony Becomes Kadokawa's Biggest Shareholder As Companies Form Alliance
A huge blow for Sony and their PlayStation fans for sure.
Re: Sony Becomes Kadokawa's Biggest Shareholder As Companies Form Alliance
@johnedwin : You mean like Sony bringing all their games to the PC and other consoles starting with Lego Horizon on the Nintendo Switch?
Or your bias is not letting you see that?
Re: Sony Becomes Kadokawa's Biggest Shareholder As Companies Form Alliance
@PSDeckSwitchOwner : Microsoft has plenty of reasons to stop any potential Sony acquisition, as I said before Sony is the biggest gaming entity in size and that alone Microsoft has a valid reason to bring up an opposition.
Re: Sony Becomes Kadokawa's Biggest Shareholder As Companies Form Alliance
@PSDeckSwitchOwner sorry but that's not happening.
Sony is still the biggest gaming company in size which means they only have one option which is acquiring individual IPS no publishers, unless they want to set off a Cascade of complaints from the European and American authorities and Microsoft would complain as well.
Re: Sony Becomes Kadokawa's Biggest Shareholder As Companies Form Alliance
In another words the acquisition felt through...this news sure pleases Microsoft tremendously.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Patches in PS5 Pro PSSR Toggle, Lets You Turn It Off
Another developer chosing the more sensical way to get their games going again.
Re: Behemoth (PSVR2) - Great Concept, Poor Execution
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Re: Behemoth (PSVR2) - Great Concept, Poor Execution
@JustCameHereToSay : You don't have to set off a rat trap just to know that it's bad for you....unless you want to go through the unnecessary pain.
Sometimes things in life are obvious like that....
Re: Behemoth (PSVR2) - Great Concept, Poor Execution
Another PSVR2 disappointment.
Re: Sly Cooper Proves Sony's PS2 Emulator Is Stealthily Getting Better
Well it should be flawless given the fact it's a Sony property with plenty of resources to make it happen.
Re: Avatar Dev Will Let You Turn Off PSSR as It Fixes Poor PS5 Pro Patch
@DennisReynolds Are you saying developers don't have a PS5 Pro?....They are the ones that can't stop complaining about it.
Re: Gamers Drawn to Troy Baker's Mesmerising Indiana Jones Like Moths to Flame
An amazing Xbox game indeed!
Re: Avatar Dev Will Let You Turn Off PSSR as It Fixes Poor PS5 Pro Patch
PSSR is the nightmare nobody wants to acknowledge but it is there in front of everyone.
Re: Sony to Make PSVR2 Pads Usable on Apple Vision Pro, New Report Claims
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Re: Suicide Squad Season 4 Will Be Its Last, Offline Mode Coming Tomorrow
Offline mode?
I can finally buy it.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Nothing Can Top Call of Duty, But Phasmophobia Came Close
Call of Duty is by far the best on its class...no wonder is the world's most profitable franchise.
Re: Random: Impatience for GTA 6 Reaches New Heights with Grand Taking Ages on PS Store
Lawsuit incoming.
Re: Rumour: Ubisoft Turmoil Continues as Shareholders Consider Buyout
@tameshiyaku : I'm not sure what games you played in the past but I have games from 3 generations prior I don't recall needing a day 1 patch to start the game never mind a forced online connectivity to play single player levels.
Could the older games used a better optimization?...sure...but even today we can't seem to get any game to run without an issue even after 20 initial patches and constant balance updates.
Game development have gotten worst not better.
Re: Sony to Make PSVR2 Pads Usable on Apple Vision Pro, New Report Claims
PlayStation literally going multiplatform.
No doubt they will be eventually releasing PlayStation games on the Apple VR, this is the only way PlayStation can complete again MetaQuest platforms.
Re: Round Up: Indiana Jones Reviews Are Live, Mostly Very Strong
Tomorrow Indiana Jones a.k.a King of Adventure is finally arriving in a game word of its name.
👍😁👍
Re: Rumour: Ubisoft Turmoil Continues as Shareholders Consider Buyout
@tameshiyaku : The fact that it requires a connection to even start the game is an issue all on its own... while The Crew, For Honor and others are just plain criminal to just demand connection at all times.
Re: Rumour: Ubisoft Turmoil Continues as Shareholders Consider Buyout
Ubisoft put themselves in that situation with their Always Online restrictions, microtransactions and shutting down games people paid full price for.
In another words they are better off in Tencent's hands.
Re: Round Up: Indiana Jones Reviews Are Live, Mostly Very Strong
Game of the Year indeed!
Re: Round Up: Indiana Jones Reviews Are Live, Mostly Very Strong
@themightyant : Remember when people used to say:
"PlayStation wouldn't charge for online gaming...guess what happened"
Then people said:
"PlayStation would never bring their games on PC"
Not soon after, that's exactly what happened.
Then again people said:
"PlayStation wouldn't release their games on PC on day 1"...only for Sony start doing it with Helldivers 2.
And yet again people said:
"PlayStation wouldn't release games on other consoles"...then we see Lego Horizon on the Switch... on Day 1 to make matters worst.
So have you noticed how people keep moving the goal pole further and further with every playstation shifting.
And that won't stop there as in reality Sony already knows that offline single player games are only stealing away profits....the shift will happen is just a matter of time.
Re: Round Up: Indiana Jones Reviews Are Live, Mostly Very Strong
@ChrisDeku : Look all around you, most companies that used to sell you something are only now selling you a subscription...we can like it or not but since gamers are now chosing digital over physical games that only makes subscriptions even more appealing.
Heck Sony is the first ones pushing for LIVE-SERVICE games more than anybody because they realized that selling you a game it doesn't make enough money for them...it's just a matter of time until they enclose those games on a subscription only tier.
Re: Round Up: Indiana Jones Reviews Are Live, Mostly Very Strong
@themightyant : I'm old-school , I'm all about physical games and hardware exclusivity, but even PlayStation's all mighty Shawn Layden have recognized that hardware sales and exclusivities won't mean nothing at the rate the market is shifting.
Make no mistake Microsoft is already preparing for that future, and so far PlayStation now releasing games for the Switch is a strong indication of the inevitable....multiplatform games all across is their only way to be truly profitable.
Re: Round Up: Indiana Jones Reviews Are Live, Mostly Very Strong
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@Llamageddon :
This is an article about an Xbox game and its high reviews in most websites.
I'm only stating the facts.
Re: Round Up: Indiana Jones Reviews Are Live, Mostly Very Strong
Only one question remains....
Play it on GamePass for a fraction of the price or wait 6 more months and pay full price.
Re: Round Up: Indiana Jones Reviews Are Live, Mostly Very Strong
@Mikey856 : If you don't believe me go ahead and check Netflix stock value from when they used to rent you a game vs just subscriptions.
Gaming Subscriptions are the future and all thanks to people preferring digital over physical games.
Re: Round Up: Indiana Jones Reviews Are Live, Mostly Very Strong
@themightyant :
Of course Microsoft needs money coming from else where, that elsewhere is the competition the more they release at full price on playstation the more it will sustain GamePass subscribers.
Microsoft's priority is not to sell Xbox games but eventually turn everyone into a subscriber.
Very smart strategy that will take years but it will eventually come through.as more people keep choosing digital over physical gaming.
Re: Round Up: Indiana Jones Reviews Are Live, Mostly Very Strong
@Mikey856 : Gamepass exist for the same reason Netflix, AmazonVideo, DisneyPlus exist.... Subscriptions bring more money than selling you the item.
GamePass is their present and future they are not going back on just selling you a game.
Microsoft's ultimately will stop selling games and only have them available through GamePass...they are making sure they get enough people on the PlayStation side loving the Xbox games.
Re: Round Up: Indiana Jones Reviews Are Live, Mostly Very Strong
@themightyant Microsoft don't care about game sales, their main priority is GamePass subscribers...the longer the game stays on GamePass the longer other people would be likely join....they already know GamePass subscribers are not meant to buy games.
The only question here is, play it on GamePass for a fraction of the price or wait 6 more months at full price.
Re: Round Up: Indiana Jones Reviews Are Live, Mostly Very Strong
@themightyant : Ever heard of a V.I.P pass? When you go to the concert you only get the best possible options if you pay more, so if you pay more you can play the game quicker...the system is fair even if we don't agree with it.
And about if PlayStation gamers would buy the game 6 months later then that would tell Microsoft it's not worth putting games on PlayStation moving forward.
Re: My First Gran Turismo Available This Friday for Free on PS5, PS4
@MrPeanutbutterz You truly don't know what a live service game is then...😂😂😂
Re: Round Up: Indiana Jones Reviews Are Live, Mostly Very Strong
Microsoft's strategy is quite fair, GamePass subscribers get to play it on Day 1 for a fraction of the price while PlayStation gamers get to play it as well but 6 months later at full price.
Being a GamePass member truly has its benefits.
Re: Round Up: Indiana Jones Reviews Are Live, Mostly Very Strong
Amazing Xbox release!
GamePass here we go!
Re: My First Gran Turismo Available This Friday for Free on PS5, PS4
@MrPeanutbutterz : Forza Horizon a live service game???
Obviously you haven't even try it....😂😂😂
Please do and then change your comment.
Re: Foamstars Support Ends in January as Square Enix Drops Soapy Live Service Shooter
@MaelysLeFleau : How much longer you think Square Enix is going to keep the servers alive while not producing many new money for them through new content?
The writing is on the wall...
Re: Foamstars Support Ends in January as Square Enix Drops Soapy Live Service Shooter
Another exclusive LIVE-SERVICE game going down in flames.
Re: Ubisoft FPS XDefiant Shutting Down, Not Accepting New Players
@torquex Perhaps you never tried Xdefiant (which I don't blame you) otherwise you wouldn't be comparing it with Fortnite which is like comparing Mario with Sonic just because they both can jump.