Adding far more costs to PS4. Getting very into this touch technology, first with the DS4, now bringing back the wands with touch. Sony still chasing Nintendo's footsteps every bit of the way
@TheRealBatman Traditionally in Australia, our prices are usually about a 50%+ markup on everything. Think PS3 launched at little short of $1000AU. So that surprises me. Xbone got a $100 markup and the cheaper PS4 got a $150 markup. Strange pricing structures Mind u, costs are still being recouped everywhere. PS4 doesn't include its Kinect equivalent. Subcription charges for online (significant jump from free), and here for both Xbone and PS4, controllers are about $100 a piece. Launch game prices here for those systems are $115+
Look, when I said ppl were nuts. That wasn't an insult to anyones persona, wasn't used as an adjective to anyone, it was used in the context of ppl being completely incorrect. Which they very much were. So I figured that mild language word was justified. Obviously it stirs some ppl.
Well save for the fanboyism wars right here and now, As I'm still a Nintendo goer (and PC gamer). This wasn't ever intended as any attack against ppl awaiting for XBOX One or PS4, only just to state how right I have been, wrong everyone else has been, and just to clear the terrible beliefs of all these ppl. The XBOX One 499 launch price has been one of the most obvious coming bits of information, the most predictable on the System. And I'm dumbfounded how anyone still believes otherwise. I'm not convinced PS4 will be any less. And wish ppl would stop believing it
@Sanquine Well, is any of it wrong?, Go find the facts and post 'em here. It's not a good defense to call someone a troll and then avoid the subject. That doesn't make you win the argument. I just did a legitimate post to an article with a public response system. Don't bash me for that. I'm not being aggressive, I'm quite fine here, and not hating anyone. But it is just a little baffling. Forget it, unless you can find some kind of evidence to suggest your beloved PS4 isn't out to rip your wallet to shreds. Just suck up the pride, and be prepared for some unexpected news and save yourself that mild grain of disappointment
"Will the PS4 and Xbox One really launch with $350 and $400 price points?" Very recent article title
"By now you might have heard that Michael Pachter has expressed his belief that Microsoft’s Xbox One will be available later this year with an MSRP of $400, while the PlayStation 4 is seen as likely launching for $350. Jeff Grubb wrote about it at this very site." First paragraph in said artice
A copy and paste response of mine in regards to the price
" This is hilarious. I've ranted for months on end that Xbone and PS4 will cost a bomb. Everyone kept arguing otherwise. What were ppl thinking to believe ignorant analysts about the price. Processing tech costs! Period! Nothing is for free, basic logic. PS4 runs more expensive memory, faster CPU, "Share" video encoder chip, faster GPU, the controller to ship will include capacitive touch, built in "move", LEDs and Sony as a company are less wealthy and can afford to absorb less cost that M'soft. A Sony exec even went on record stating "they hope not to sell for 600 again" I can't believe this journo is still holding out hope PS4 will price modestly. Bets on its more than 499US. Then just wait for the games, extra brand new controllers, eyetoy. PS4 will suffer hardest for pricing I got my WiiU. Future of my console gaming looks pretty good right now"
And my brain is cringing that ppl are still out there thinking PS4 can go cheap. Why do u think Sony avoided the subject for so long? They know the news will painfully hurt their fanbase. Get past it. If PS4 announces at sub 500US, fine, believe that, but until that happens, follow reality. PS4 is price disadvantaged to XBOX One in every way (except kinect 2 inclusion)
@TheRealBatman Yeah Sony tends to say a hellava lotta things. They've delayed a price reveal for a while now. If PS4 was gonna be a cosy and comfortable 400US. Think they woulda just said it by now. They don't want to break their hype run they've got going
And thus begins the head-on clash between PS4 n 720. They'll fight at each other while. Just another one of my predictions reigning true. Cone launch PS4/720, they will be diluting each others sales while WiiU is in its stride. Two orher points to be taken from this article 1, development is proving to be getting too hard and too slow for bigger and bigger studios. And 2. This article cites a hellava lot of first person games. The next gen better have a broader genre range than that to be successful. Can't all be about FPSs No one realises how tough Sony n M'soft are about to have it when their consoles actually face the real life market
@TheRealBatman In Australia, everything is more expensive. We're not the biggest market here, but pre-orders are now available for an estimated $800 odd. By comparison. The deluxe WiiU deluxe (including a decent piece of software) costs $430. Its not gonna work too well for PS4. And far more when u factor in new controllers and maybe the vita combo. $1200+ before we get started with the games here? If I were a millionaire, Id buy everthing. But stuck to Nintendos ability to deliver its mind tearing games. particularly metroids n Zeldas. Uses the brain. And got my PC for the higher end. PS4 will still primarily depend on dual analogue for its control scheme which for some prominent genres i.e. FPSs, isn't 'next gen', its generations old. For anyone who hasn't truely bothered to dive into say the Metroid games for example. Cause of their stigmas on Nintendo. Watch 'Gametrailers' ('GT')s review on "Metroid Prime Corruption" Thing about most Nintendo nay sayers is they'll utterly refuse to attempt a game before writing off their systems. And to me that's sad. Cause Nintendo produces some very mentally active games. I'm 29 and I have quite a few friends at my age and younger, who are so lazy in gaming, the moment they're presented a choice or have to read/listen to 1 paragraph of game dialogue they give up. The GTA series is one of the major coveted games on a Sony system. Nigh on every single time I've watched someeone play, its just hit the cheats and randomly drone around for hours on end.. At times I seriously don't understand some ppl and how thwy play games or what they consider entertainment..
I've left countless rants all over the net scorning all this hype about PS4. After a few months of the world cheering, now watch as the bad news starts hitting and reality starts setting in. When PS4 launches, later than expected, at higher prices than expected, with more launch faults and woes expected..WiiU can ride on happily having passed its launch phase and had its naunces settled out Not to mention M'soft still has something up its sleeve. Sony will face brutal competition. Maybe time is coming for ppl to settle down and cease the laughter declaring Sonys 'inevitable victory' hmm?
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Re: Rumour: Sony Working on Touch Powered PS Move for PS4?
Adding far more costs to PS4. Getting very into this touch technology, first with the DS4, now bringing back the wands with touch. Sony still chasing Nintendo's footsteps every bit of the way
Re: Talking Point: Has Microsoft's E3 2013 Showing Lessened Your Interest in the PS4?
@TheRealBatman
Traditionally in Australia, our prices are usually about a 50%+ markup on everything. Think PS3 launched at little short of $1000AU. So that surprises me. Xbone got a $100 markup and the cheaper PS4 got a $150 markup. Strange pricing structures
Mind u, costs are still being recouped everywhere. PS4 doesn't include its Kinect equivalent. Subcription charges for online (significant jump from free), and here for both Xbone and PS4, controllers are about $100 a piece. Launch game prices here for those systems are $115+
Re: Talking Point: Has Microsoft's E3 2013 Showing Lessened Your Interest in the PS4?
@rjejr
May have replied to wrong guy, seeing loads of "@ this person, @ that person"
Sometimes writing in a rush on phone etc..
Re: Talking Point: Has Microsoft's E3 2013 Showing Lessened Your Interest in the PS4?
@rjejr
Look, when I said ppl were nuts. That wasn't an insult to anyones persona, wasn't used as an adjective to anyone, it was used in the context of ppl being completely incorrect.
Which they very much were. So I figured that mild language word was justified. Obviously it stirs some ppl.
Re: Talking Point: Has Microsoft's E3 2013 Showing Lessened Your Interest in the PS4?
@Sanquine
Well save for the fanboyism wars right here and now, As I'm still a Nintendo goer (and PC gamer). This wasn't ever intended as any attack against ppl awaiting for XBOX One or PS4, only just to state how right I have been, wrong everyone else has been, and just to clear the terrible beliefs of all these ppl.
The XBOX One 499 launch price has been one of the most obvious coming bits of information, the most predictable on the System. And I'm dumbfounded how anyone still believes otherwise. I'm not convinced PS4 will be any less. And wish ppl would stop believing it
Re: Talking Point: Has Microsoft's E3 2013 Showing Lessened Your Interest in the PS4?
@Sanquine
Well, is any of it wrong?, Go find the facts and post 'em here.
It's not a good defense to call someone a troll and then avoid the subject. That doesn't make you win the argument.
I just did a legitimate post to an article with a public response system. Don't bash me for that.
I'm not being aggressive, I'm quite fine here, and not hating anyone. But it is just a little baffling.
Forget it, unless you can find some kind of evidence to suggest your beloved PS4 isn't out to rip your wallet to shreds. Just suck up the pride, and be prepared for some unexpected news and save yourself that mild grain of disappointment
Re: Talking Point: Has Microsoft's E3 2013 Showing Lessened Your Interest in the PS4?
@TheRealBatman
That's Pachter for you. The vid contains a lotta language, apologies for that, don't watch if you're young. Otherwise, watch away
Re: Talking Point: Has Microsoft's E3 2013 Showing Lessened Your Interest in the PS4?
@TheRealBatman
"Will the PS4 and Xbox One really launch with $350 and $400 price points?"
Very recent article title
"By now you might have heard that Michael Pachter has expressed his belief that Microsoft’s Xbox One will be available later this year with an MSRP of $400, while the PlayStation 4 is seen as likely launching for $350. Jeff Grubb wrote about it at this very site."
First paragraph in said artice
You ppl are nuts.....
Reference
http://venturebeat.com/2013/06/07/will-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-really-launch-with-350-and-400-price-points/
Just let me know how many more extracts you want me to pull on ppls general predictions of XBOX One and PS4 launch prices
Re: Talking Point: Has Microsoft's E3 2013 Showing Lessened Your Interest in the PS4?
A copy and paste response of mine in regards to the price
" This is hilarious. I've ranted for months on end that Xbone and PS4 will cost a bomb. Everyone kept arguing otherwise. What were ppl thinking to believe ignorant analysts about the price. Processing tech costs! Period! Nothing is for free, basic logic.
PS4 runs more expensive memory, faster CPU, "Share" video encoder chip, faster GPU, the controller to ship will include capacitive touch, built in "move", LEDs and Sony as a company are less wealthy and can afford to absorb less cost that M'soft. A Sony exec even went on record stating "they hope not to sell for 600 again"
I can't believe this journo is still holding out hope PS4 will price modestly. Bets on its more than 499US. Then just wait for the games, extra brand new controllers, eyetoy.
PS4 will suffer hardest for pricing
I got my WiiU. Future of my console gaming looks pretty good right now"
And my brain is cringing that ppl are still out there thinking PS4 can go cheap. Why do u think Sony avoided the subject for so long? They know the news will painfully hurt their fanbase.
Get past it. If PS4 announces at sub 500US, fine, believe that, but until that happens, follow reality. PS4 is price disadvantaged to XBOX One in every way (except kinect 2 inclusion)
Re: Talking Point: How Has Xbox One's Reveal Affected Your Anticipation for PS4?
@TheRealBatman
Yeah Sony tends to say a hellava lotta things. They've delayed a price reveal for a while now. If PS4 was gonna be a cosy and comfortable 400US. Think they woulda just said it by now. They don't want to break their hype run they've got going
Re: Talking Point: How Has Xbox One's Reveal Affected Your Anticipation for PS4?
PS4 n 720 wont be affordable either way. Got my WiiU n PC. Im set. And an awesome array of titles to look forward to
Re: Opinion: Next Xbox Development Woes Could Spell Trouble for the PS4
And thus begins the head-on clash between PS4 n 720. They'll fight at each other while. Just another one of my predictions reigning true. Cone launch PS4/720, they will be diluting each others sales while WiiU is in its stride.
Two orher points to be taken from this article
1, development is proving to be getting too hard and too slow for bigger and bigger studios.
And 2. This article cites a hellava lot of first person games. The next gen better have a broader genre range than that to be successful. Can't all be about FPSs
No one realises how tough Sony n M'soft are about to have it when their consoles actually face the real life market
Re: ASDA: PlayStation 4 Release Date Is 'Merely An Estimation'
@TheRealBatman
In Australia, everything is more expensive. We're not the biggest market here, but pre-orders are now available for an estimated $800 odd. By comparison. The deluxe WiiU deluxe (including a decent piece of software) costs $430. Its not gonna work too well for PS4. And far more when u factor in new controllers and maybe the vita combo. $1200+ before we get started with the games here?
If I were a millionaire, Id buy everthing. But stuck to Nintendos ability to deliver its mind tearing games. particularly metroids n Zeldas. Uses the brain. And got my PC for the higher end.
PS4 will still primarily depend on dual analogue for its control scheme which for some prominent genres i.e. FPSs, isn't 'next gen', its generations old.
For anyone who hasn't truely bothered to dive into say the Metroid games for example. Cause of their stigmas on Nintendo.
Watch 'Gametrailers' ('GT')s review on "Metroid
Prime Corruption"
Thing about most Nintendo nay sayers is they'll utterly refuse to attempt a game before writing off their systems. And to me that's sad. Cause Nintendo produces some very mentally active games.
I'm 29 and I have quite a few friends at my age and younger, who are so lazy in gaming, the moment they're presented a choice or have to read/listen to 1 paragraph of game dialogue they give up.
The GTA series is one of the major coveted games on a Sony system. Nigh on every single time I've watched someeone play, its just hit the cheats and randomly drone around for hours on end..
At times I seriously don't understand some ppl and how thwy play games or what they consider entertainment..
Re: ASDA: PlayStation 4 Release Date Is 'Merely An Estimation'
I've left countless rants all over the net scorning all this hype about PS4. After a few months of the world cheering, now watch as the bad news starts hitting and reality starts setting in.
When PS4 launches, later than expected, at higher prices than expected, with more launch faults and woes expected..WiiU can ride on happily having passed its launch phase and had its naunces settled out
Not to mention M'soft still has something up its sleeve. Sony will face brutal competition. Maybe time is coming for ppl to settle down and cease the laughter declaring Sonys 'inevitable victory' hmm?