
PlayStation has confirmed its decision to "step away" from the development of Physint, the new Metal Gear Solid-esque project from Kojima Productions that was announced a few years ago.
In a statement posted to social media, Sony explained: "After careful consideration, we have made the difficult decision to step away from collaborating with Kojima Productions on its project PHYSINT. We continue to have great admiration for Hideo Kojima's vision for the game."
The project is still in development, though, under a new publisher: Xbox.
Hideo Kojima took to social media to explain that rather than just stepping away from Physint, Sony had cancelled the project entirely in mid-June. In the three months since then, the developer has been searching for a new partner and found it in Xbox Game Studios.
"In the course of seeking advice and pursuing negotiations with people across many fields, we found in XBOX a partner with whom we share a common vision for the future, and we have decided to team up with them once again," explained Kojima. "Please rest assured that development of PHYSINT, our genre-defining action-espionage title, is ongoing and will continue moving forward."
The reason why Sony decided to step away from Physint and cancel development hasn't been shared.
Instead, the company simply added: "Our relationship remains strong after three decades of industry-leading, genre-defining creative cooperation, and we look forward to continued close collaboration with Hideo Kojima and his award-winning independent studio in the future."
Kojima Productions is also collaborating with Xbox Game Studios on OD, a more experimental horror game that's been knocking about for a few years now.
While Sony took a softer approach by saying it chose to "step away" from Physint, Kojima shared the actual reality of the situation: "As confirmed earlier through our official channels, in mid-June of this year, we unexpectedly received notice from PlayStation Studios that they would cancel the PHYSINT project." This led to the team searching for a new publishing partner.
Following the publisher switch, the final product will likely look dramatically different than if it had reached the finish line with Sony. The original reveal suggested Physint would make use of Sony Pictures' film production buildings, and that PlayStation would provide its full backing.
We've never seen the game in action, but Charlee Fraser (Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga), Don Lee (Train to Busan) and Minami Hamabe (Godzilla Minus One) were confirmed as cast members, and considerable work was being put into face models via 3Lateral technology.
Now, none of this work will come to fruition under PlayStation. Whether the game even launches on PlayStation (most likely PS6) is theoretically up in the air now, following Xbox's recent attempt to reclaim exclusive games.
The official Kojima Productions account had a follow-up post sharing its excitement to work with Xbox beyond just OD: "XBOX understands and shares our bold creative vision, and this expands our relationship with XBOX beyond OD. As we move forward with the development of PHYSINT, we remain committed to redefining the action-espionage genre for players around the world."
With fan sentiment surrounding PlayStation in the mud, especially after a live service push and the decisions to cancel many of those projects, its decision-making is starting to impact the single player titles the brand is best known for.
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Hermen has got to go...
Not the kind of title that helps you monetize users.
This is completely baffling - at least with the live service it made SOME sort of cynical business sense in wanting to make the next Fortnite or whatever.
Welcome back 2006 Sony, I guess
Sony:
Help fund a game about delivering parcels were you have to use weapons from your own piss to defeat tar ghosts? Absolutely
Help fund a stealth action game from one of the best to do it in the genre? Hell no.
Maybe Physint sounds too much like Physical and they got scared. Atleast Fairgames is still on the go. What is going ON
It feels good to have XBOX back on stage again. The market needs competition!
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At this point I'm just expecting Hermen to come and pee through my letterbox.
This is why announcing games years before they are in any state to be show is a bad idea.
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!?
Sony is on a generational run right now, and not a good one. They've "switched up on a day one" with Kojima now.
And Xbox picking up this game does not fill me with any confidence at all. We’ve already seen that they have major issues in quality control. Least we forget that this was the same company that released Redfall?
Once again, Sony stealth-shoots itself in the foot. Except without the stealth bit.
I guess we should be grateful it wasn't in Sony's capabilities to shutter Kojima Studios, which I'm sure they would have done if it made a fast buck for the shareholders.
There has to have been a reason them to walk away. They won't have done it on a whim.
It's a shame as I wasn't a fan of Death Stranding but this sounded like it could be a spiritual successor to MGS
@ShadowRJ Redfall's problem was they were an offshoot of a single player team trying to make a multiplayer game with no experience or oversight. Kojima Productions are developing their bread and butter with this game at the least. They also had minimal oversight from Sony while making Death Stranding 1 and 2, so I'm not sure the Phili Spencer special of not really watching over their development teams will be an issue, and that's assuming Asha would even take that same hands off approach.
Sony is useless, greedy, incompetent and heartless. *** em
This is bizarre - it's a guaranteed money-maker. It doesn't sound as niche as OD or even Death Stranding was, and I fully expect OD to sell well.
Maybe they tried to control the game too much and didn't like Kojima likely ignoring that completely?
Sony aren't exactly winning hearts and minds right now, are they? 😕
Impossible to comment on this specific title as we dont know how the game is progressing behind the scenes or what led to the decision but on the face of it, this is yet more baffling news - and based on the comments from Kojima and Kojima productions on Twitter, it does make me question the future relationship they will have with Playstation. Its not a surprise to see Xbox partner up on this. Another easy PR win for them.
Bear in mind Sony closed out a State of Play with Hermen Hulst standing side by side with Kojima to announce this project. They know this partnership is a big deal. Kojima has been a huge part of Sony's identity for the past 30 years.
@Hyena_socks Hermen may have asked to slip in microtransactions for weapons development resources and Kojima got Phantom Pain flashbacks.
@Orpheus79V Redfall began production in order to increase the sale price of ZeniMax, however Microsoft then took the reins and then responsibility as far as I’m concerned. The alarming thing for me is that Phil Spencer said the review scores were far lower than predicted…..he predicted that Redfall would review well!!!
I cannot see myself continuing with Sony after decades of loyalty.. This is getting ridiculous with how their decisions are getting completely and utterly mismanaged to all hell. I stayed on PlayStation back in the day because of games like Uncharted and God of War, but I bought a PlayStation 3 because of Metal Gear 4, what with the power of hideo Kojimas talents. I imagine a new uncharted would be a complete mess with the way they handle all their games now, Nathan Drake would either be killed off right at the beginning or just a bit part player and I must say that the new God of War Laufey isn’t filling me with much confidence either. No, this is coming to an end for me with how Sony are managing their business. Nintendo or (crazily) Xbox for me next gen.. One thing on topic I forget to mention, thank everything that is holy that Hideo Kojima kept Kojima Productions independent or today’s news would have read a whole lot different and would not have had a silver lining…
Dropped the ball. Focused on live service rubbish when they should have been focusing on stuff like Koji Pro games.
Maybe it was turning more into a tv show or series. I kid, I love Kojima but here, I have no idea so until I have a point, I will go without saying.
Is there no limit to the stupidity and greed of current Sony?
It is shocking.
Every time you think Sony can't possibly get worse than they already are, they pull s*** like this 💀
I'm happy the project isn't dead thanks to Xbox but christ alive how on earth do you cancel a KOJIMA-EXCLUSIVE but still hold onto stuff like Fairgames and Horizon Hunters Gathering 😭
I would like to think Sony has good reasons for doing this. But they've made a fair few poor business decisions in recent years, certainly from my perspective. So I can't say I have any confidence they know what they're doing here.
As a long time Playstation fan, they are just making so many baffling decisions, they've really made it hard to defend/support tthem. I haven't loved any of their first party releases in years, probably GoW 18 was the last. A portable gaming PC is now do tempting because at this stage I can't see myself buying a PS6. And I've bought a ps1-5, psp, and psvita
Sony have lost the plot. I don’t recognise this company anymore!
This is like an April fools headline. But it's September.
I'm so done with PlayStation right now. If it wasn't for my comical library of games I'd be outta here. It won't happen because a) Xbox is utterly inept, and b) nobody cares about Xbox, but I hope Xbox obliterates PlayStation next gen.
Sony is doing its best to prove that the third console curse is real.
The PS6 generation is going to be a disaster for them. Hopefully they can recover like they did for the PS3 but that would require new management and a new direction. I am considering jumping to PC or even Xbox for a second time after the 360 or just remain exclusive to the Switch 2.
Hard to believe Hulst had any saying on this since it was one of the first projects he announced after getting appointed as head of their studios and he's close to Kojima. It probably came from above (Nishino or Totoki, most likely — which could mean that Hulst days at Sony are numbered).
And I’d guess Sony backed out because they realized it wouldn't be worth investing heavily in a project where they don't own the IP.
One thing I think a lot of people are missing here was that Kojima wasn't just working with and using SIEs Resources but Sony Pictures were also involved with this Game so Two of Sonys divisions had a hand in this games development and it probably got way to expensive with not much to show for it. I mean hell we still don't even have a trailer for OD I think another issue is Sony would be spending all of this money and not only would the game not be exclusive but they wouldn't even own the Ip
Perhaps 80% of the budget was gonna go to hiring Kojima's current favorite celebrities to star in it.
Saves a few hundred million. Line graph goes up. Bigger bonuses for the lads.
Eh. Playstation ends in January 2028 anyway.
This has all the hallmarks of Hermen Hulst, the masterful head who continues to make astoundingly brilliant decisions on games. Maybe Kojima balked at Herman's demand of making Physint into a live service game with microtransactions. In the meantime, we'll see Physint as an Xbox exclusive, while Herman still has the promise of Fairgames and Horizon Hunters Gathering as their live service saviors.
I can only imagine the budget for this was growing day by day at a rapid rate, especially when you take into account the Sony Film Productions side of the project (which can’t be in that great a shape either), and the powers that be got cold feet, see this as a quick way to save money on a spreadsheet so they’ll look good, without looking at the long term.
So depressing. Death Stranding didn’t really gel with me, but I love the fact Kojima is just out there making games like that. This one I had really high hopes for. This really is starting to look like we’re watching the empire fall isn’t it.
LMAO an actual joke of a company, every week they move further away from the "for the gamers" to the "for the shareholders"
I dont even like Kojima games but this is actually insane, add another generational fumble to the bag, I would love to know why and who made that choice.
An idiotic move from Sony.
@Bionic-Spencer I am starting to consider Xbox as an option too would be my second after the 360, give PC another chance or remain exclusive to my Switch 2.
Let's hope this is a sign that Xbox are starting to make good decisions again
i wouldn`t be surprised if more than half the budget of kojima`s games is wasted chasing his hollywood celebrities fantasies.
and to add to inflated budgets kojima probably wanted his games multiplatform too.
remember when everyone was excited for the new death stranding exclusive and kojima went around announcing a pc port months before release, the guy shot himself in the foot.
if sony can use the money kojima would waste on celebrities and make more first party exclusives that sounds pretty good to me.
leave xbox to found kojima`s fantasies and when the game is multiplatform it will sell better on playstation anyway.
win win situation if you ask me.
@Haruki_NLI
"I don't get cancelling a single player game in a genre from the guy who defined said genre when he's best mates with you, you let him use your own tech, and it costs relatively little compared to buying a studio that was run by a woman who hadn't actually made a game in 15 years."
Sony is acting like a gen Z kid. Life goes around instagram and what is supposed to be cool today and only today.
I bet Xbox can't believe their luck. Wouldn't surprise me if it became Xbox exclusive only.
Meanwhile, the live service slop Fairgames is still alive after years of absent. Make it make sense Sony 🙄🤦♂️
It's just crazy how Hermen and Nishino are collecting so many L's for Playstation like there's no tomorrow. What's their endgame here, killing Playstation brand as fast as they can???
Good catch for Xbox though. Looks like they've gaining more and more positive momentum lately.
Seriously, whats going on with PS lately? it seems they are trying SO HARD to rapidly become the most hated console/company in the industry.
Probably canceled it to fund another future failed live service game. God Sony has become such a blind ***** company. They will pay for all these bad decisions in about five years. A lot of people really hate this company now.
Someone in here said it the other day, but this whole generation has been bad decisions after bad decisions, and the announcement of the stoppage of physical games was Playstations Xbox One DRM moment, and they will slowly start to bleed out because of it.
I thought Death Stranding was boring w***, and the sequel didn't sell particularly well so it probably didn't make it's budget back.
Well, even if XBox is saving it now, there’s no guarantees it’ll stay that way. They may end up canning it anyway. If not, since it’ll go straight to Game Pass probably, doubt the sales will be that great. We know almost nothing about the game, so time will tell how it’ll fare.
Since Kojima said that Sony pulling out was unexpected, wonder if something spooked them. Either way, feel bad for the people who were looking forward to this.
You all need to start voting with your wallets people, its the only way Sony is ever going to change course from this death spiral they are in.
Keep giving them money and they will just continue the nonsense of the last few years.
Stop buying games, stop subscribing to PS Plus, its time to take a stand
This is unexpected. I wonder if Death Stranding 2 didn't perform as Sony expected, so they cancelled their collaboration on Physint? I guess this might also signal that Death Stranding 3 is off the table.
Something phishy is going on... Either they saw the game and "nah this ain't it kojima" or is it because his stance on physical media?
Sony:
Right, the shotguns cocked now where are both my feet at……
I have NO doubt that Sony are busy working on their next batch of live service games though. Packed full of in app purchases whilst charging you a premium for the game in the first place….
I'm genuinely stunned by this, what the hell are Sony thinking to let this go?
I have a feeling the numbers for Death Stranding might have had something to do with it as despite making two phenomenal games I don't think they were the mega hits anyone was expecting them to be.
To walk away entirely is a completely different matter tho and as a Kojima fan Sony have just made the next Xbox immediately more interesting.
Gotta save funds for the next Concord-like somehow.
@Sakai Sadly the money is going to just keep on flowing to Sony.
If Sony are dropping it and Xbox picking it up then the game must be in a bad shape.
What on Earth is going on?!!!
Death Stranding was probably a big loss for Sony balancing cost vs copies sold. But Physint was presented as being a full action/stealth game like Metal Gear so it's surprising that Sony dropped it. Perhaps Hermen Hulst needed the funding for Horizon: Hunters Gathering so Physint, and Bluepoint, had to go?
Microsoft has now become the good guy - but I suspect it will have to release on PlayStation to bring in some extra revenue.
Hermen Hulst is hurting PlayStation.
@ShadowRJ nothing to do with xbox Redfall was 1 year from release when xbox bought ZeniMax. It was Zenimax that forced Austin Arkane to make a live service game they didnt want to make all the talent left and to be honest i played the game last year it wasnt even that bad after the patches
@VenomUK without knowing the full situation, it’s hard to say. It’s entirely possible that Physint was suffering from major development problems, but considering Sony’s standing right now, it’s not hard to imagine that Kojima’s wild imagination is probably going against management’s financially safe strategy.
@Toot1st Xbox still finished the game instead of cancelling it outright. They also spent a long time hyping the thing up, and their internal review metrics didn’t lineup anywhere close to what the final release ended up being
Also I’m pretty sure ZeniMax were bought in 2020 and Redfall didn’t come out until 2023.
@VenomUK Well Hulst was Ryan’s right hand man, although this could entirely be the new CEO’s decision.
I'm sure in a few months' (or years) time we will get more insight into this whole afffair and that will be something worth reading.
Personally, I'm not much invested into this - of all Kojima games I only ever played, and quite enjoyed, a bit of Death Stranding (though remember watching gameplay for Snake Eater before I ever got my first PLayStation, back when gaming TV channels were still a thing and I thought it was really something).
Even so, I always kind of felt that PlayStation and Kojima Productions we co closely linked that such situation would be unthinkable. It's all just business after all, I guess...
Love the fanboys in here crying about Sony cancelling working on this game with Kojima when they have no idea why they made this decision
The future of PlayStation is so dull
They are on an unbelievable run of sh*thouesery right now, it’s actually quite impressive how they continue to generate bad press for themselves. Ps6 will be Sonys worst selling console by far.
Never have I seen a company fumble so much goodwill in such a short time. A HUGE congratulation to Sony, Playstation and Hulst for their worst generation ever, full of cancelled games, live service slop, barely any exclusive games, disrespect to devs (including legendary ones) and the end of physical media. Bravo, Sony. I am now, after 30 years, rooting for your complete failure and bankrupcy.
This is hilarious. I was already out of PS ecosystem after this ***** gen, but cancelling Kojima MGS-like game? What in the blue ***** are these incompetent mfs doing? 😂
Luckily Kojima is a big name and he always can find other publishers to fund his games.
Time for Hulst to go before PlayStation Studio is run into the ground.
BAD SONY IS BACK!!! 🤣
🙁
@0niguy Or the project is supposed to be very expensive - Kojima loves to hire many popular actors. Sony lost fuckton of money with their GaaS initiative and probably has said, nah too much cash for this fam.
Honestly with the current leadership team at Playstation Ivory towers comprising of financial "suits",whom the closest to gaming they've been is firing up spreadsheets on a PC & Hermen Hulst whom gaming judgement as Worldwide Studios head has proven spectacularly awful it only remains to see them announce an online only Packino game as their next major tie-in to another Fortnite HZD or GOW online spin-off at this point!🙄
Yes, perhaps the beancounters like Toroki or Hideaki Nishino might’ve forced Hermen's hand...BUT we've seen numerous times already when Hermen has ruthlessly thrown dev houses like Bluepoint & others under the bus this generation too.🙄
Honestly, this continues such a spectacular set of own goals & P.R. disasters that it goes beyond just Hulst at this point...the entire arrogant leadership team resemble the likes of the incompetent money men that ran companies like Commodore into bankruptcy in the 1990's!
This is an odd one.
Hulst stood beside Kojima and bragged about how he convinced him to make this game.
Then Sony tries to cancel it outright?
I wonder if someone other than Hulst made the call. Which makes me speculate about how much he's being listened to atm.
Or maybe it was an issue of budget creep?
Definitely a chin scratcher. But surely if the game had promise they wouldn't have tried to kill it either.
Oh well! Back to Onimusha 🤷♂️
Sony can't communicate with customers, nor with their partners. They clearly can't tell the truth. What is wrong with that company? Have they been replaced by an LLM?
@ShadowRJ I know I'm in the vast minority, but I really enjoyed Redfall.
So Xbox gets not one but two whole Kojima games? And they’re funding them? This is almost as crazy as seeing Halo and Forza on a PS5. I wonder if this is going to affect Kojima’s trust in PlayStation going forward especially since he had previously spoke out against the move to all digital as well. Can’t be alienating your most loyal customers AND developers Sony. It’s not a good look.
The is quite a bizarre decision by PlayStation (unless the game is complete trash) but a very clever decision by XBOX (unless the game is complete trash).
As Mr Lahey said a ***** storm is coming.
@SMJ .................................
I applaude you for showing bravery that exceeds that of a man scuba diving in a shark infested ocean with a bleeding nose.
@Warldorf I could see it being an XBOX exclusive as the cancellation from PlayStation must have left a bitter taste in Kojima's mouth.
Maybe Sony didnt want to fund a game that comes to PC as Sony seems to step away from PC association.
Nevertheless, since Sonys stop of phyiscal support, they keep looking worse and worse in the eye of the public.
@ShadowRJ I mean, do Xbox? For the most part, they've published many very highly rated games over the last 8 years. They've published the highest rated major release of this year with FH6, and they still have Gears Eday and Fable upcoming, both of which look excellent.
More importantly though, Xbox wouldn't be developing this anyway, mostly just paying for it.
@ShadowRJ 😂 I genuinely liked it!
This can’t be good for Kojima’s relationship with PlayStation now
i forgot that physint was a thing. oh well guess it’s something else to listen to people endlessly bitch about.
Hopefully this means we get Concord 2.
In all seriousness, though, Sony have really dropped the ball this gen. Baffling.
U all have your pitchforks no one seen the game no one knows what going on the background touch some grass.
@Lysterao Xbox have released their fair share off good to great games, but I don't know how much of it is don to Xbox. Yes, the Forza Horizon series have been excellent, but Phil Spencer himself stated that Redfall's review scores were double digits lower than they anticipated. Something went seriously wrong with their review simulations if they though people would genuinely claim it was a good game.
@SMJ I genuinely liked Sonic 06 to be fair, so who am I to talk
@Sakai Sadly this is the arrogant and tone deaf Sony. Even if say a lot of PS gamers stop buying games and not sub to PS+, there's still the casual audiences who quickly thrown $80-100 to preorder digital GTA 6 and the ones who keeps spending money on gacha mtx. These casuals gamers outnumbers long time / hardcore PS fans, which is why Sony keeps doing these BS.
@ryanburnsred From Kojima tweet, he sounds very surprised and also dissapointed. So definitely this will hugely affect his relationship with Sony / Playstation. I'm not even surprise if Kojima decided to stop releasing his games for Playstation.
I get it to be honest. Death Stranding 2 obviously flopped and that spooked Sony. Kojima is also notoriously poor with money management and I'm assuming the projected budget for Physint was insanely high. Like let's be honest, all that Hollywood talent doesn't come cheap. And then on top of that, Kojima most likely wanted a similar arrangement to Death Stranding, where he could own the rights and release the game on whatever platforms he wants.
There's no point in Sony burning piles upon piles of money for Kojima. He's not the name he used to be.
Sony decided to step away from Physint, and I’ve decided to step away from the PS6!
Kojima has always made some of the best games, and the reason behind this is probably that Death Stranding 2, which in my opinion is a masterpiece, hasn’t sold as well as expected. Since it didn’t make enough profit, Sony decided to step away from the project.
Physint was the only reason I was willing to buy a PS6, so the PS5 will be my last PlayStation console. I’ll be moving to Xbox!
Sony doing a real good job of selling me a pc or xbox this year…
Get rid of Hulst. He has to go.
I find all the comments from people that know virtually nothing about the game hilarious. Sony saw it, possibly even got to play a concept, and decided not to keep funding that vision. I’d have more faith in that than some concept you know nothing about.
Regardless it seems like a PR coup for Xbox right now, but only time will tell how the project ends up. Sometimes games come together late in development, it may still be great, but it’s clearly not great right now, else Sony wouldn’t drop it.
I will reserve judgement on this decision until the game/reviews come out. I think people are jumping the gun a bit either because Sony has s**t the bed several occasions this gen or they are deep in the cult of Kojima.
Xbox has clearly jumped at the opportunity but is it because they have faith in the game or because it's an easy win with the 'hardcore' gamers.
I do agree with the Hulst out sentiments, just not for this particular move.
@PuppetMaster id put money on Xbox putting a they have first refusal on his future games in Thier contract and chances are he would agree to that after Sony pushed his game away
Congratulations Sony, you've allowed Xbox to have two Kojima games that will be made exclusive, and the Xbox is now officially, the home of Kojima.
They better pray that OD and Physint are both absolutely terrible, because if they score about a 8/10, they will regret this for decades
Not as surprised as most people seem to be..
I was never a big fan of Kojima's work post MGS series, and Death Stranding 2 at least according to publicly available information has commercially flopped hard.
At the same time, Kojima already played both sides of exclusivity equation with highly experimental concepts.. that don't seem to work financially anymore. Playing a final card of switching to just one platform gives him bargaining chips. So yeah, MS probably picked it up as a name acquisition, fully aware of the risk game might actually not be that great or sell well.
Excellent news for anyone not exclusivley playing on ps console.
Seriously, WTF Sony. Konami already screwed Kojima and you're just doing the same. One disaster after another. They need to get rid of all their higher ups. They're just destroying the PS brand at this point. Meanwhile, Xbox is having a resurgence ever since Asha took over. I used to think that her claiming that Xbox will become the #1 gaming brand by 2030 was ridiculous but the way how they are doing things and how Sony keeps shooting itself in the foot, that claim may not be impossible.
@KawakiisaFraud
I'm here for the comments too but the Sony Defense Squad is nowhere to be seen. 😁
If the game was in a good place then they likely wouldn't have dropped it. The fact that they have dropped it probably hints that its not in a good place, or is burning through budget.
Either way the only way we will ever know is if / when the game releases as until then we quite literally know nothing about it.
@nolifebr Multiplatform eventually as well.
Sony is setting a record for bad news and terrible PR.
If the Xbox Helix could launch with an exclusive like this, it could help it be a real competitor next gen.
I'm at a loss for words.
@ShadowRJ
Redfall? That's some effort to sidetrack a discussion.
Okay it was nicknamed "Redfail" for good reason but to suggest it means Physint could be poor is a bit of a stretch.
It is The Phantom Pain all over again. Kojima mismanaged the funds so the bosses decided to cut their lossed and drop funding.
That said I am a huge Metal Gear fan and I always look forward to what Kojima Productions is making even though I never played Death Stranding 2. I guess I found the first game too bloated.
WTF Sony really are trying their best to upset their loyal gamers. Don't know the ins and outs but this seems like a suicidal decision to me, have Sony had enough of playstation? I for one am seriously thinking of jumping ship now after all that has happened. No Naughty Dog for years and God of War isn't all that really. What is there to stay for?
Someone said that Sony would make an announcement that will have "everyone forget about Nintendo's direct."
Well, looks like they were right on the target. Just that it wasn't what we really wanted to hear. I'm crossing my fingers that it gets a Playstation release but regardless, it feels like Sony has been on a roll on making mistakes, and somehow, this ticks me off more than lowering the physical production...
Oh Sony what has happened to you? What a disaster.
Herman has got to either leave or be pushed now this is becoming embarrassing. He even featured in that video with kojima at the Hollywood studios all smug and now nothing. In fact it’s worse than that now Xbox have it.
Unbelievable how PlayStation is acting. I want less and less to do with them the more time goes on. Such a shame from a brand I once admired and enjoyed. I’ll end up on steam deck 2 by the time ps6 rolls round.
I would also imagine that there weren't many other publishers that had the budget to pick this game up after Sony dropped it. That surely limited the options for Kojima anyway.
It also makes me wonder if this possible bad blood between PlayStation and Kojima could mean that DS2 will arrive on XBOX in the very near future.
@ShadowRJ Redfall is just one game though. I can't think of any other games they've released that have (critically) at least flopped so hard. If that was enough to sink a publisher, then Sony would be on life support now too.
I think the main problem for Xbox has been that they were playing catch up since 2013 when that disastrous Xbox One reveal killed them. Then, it took them until 2018 to start actually giving Phil money to do *****, but by that point AAA dev time was averaging 6 years, and so it wasn't really until 2024 that they were releasing games at a high cadence, so a few of the games they released in the interim (Redfall for example) were rushed out to fill the gap (pun not intended). Sacrificed to the need for content.
I'm more confident of their time to give games the necessary dev time these days, look at Fable.
On the other hand, they're STILL playing catch up due to being so far behind on Console sales, it has led them to make a fair few risky and unpredictable moves, so we'll see.
As for Sony, this was likely due to the game being quite far out, regardless of whether they thought it was looking good or not. After their recent string of losses, they're clearly in need of some bets that will pay off sooner than later.
Find it odd so many have just decided this is Sony messing up when we've seen literally nothing of the game.
Sony have rimmed Kojima for years, they are not going to pull the plug for no reason, there has to be a big reason to suddenly do a 180 on this.
This is a humiliation ritual. Genuinely a mess. Hulst has to go.
@themightyant I mean, you're making the same assumption of knowledge without any idea either. You MAY be right. But frankly this is all speculation.
Most likely, given OD will be Kojimas most progressed project is that Physint hasn't even really started true development at all yet, and as such is just too far out for Sony, who clearly need to start recouping some of their recent losses. They may also not have liked what they were seeing. It's impossible to say.
Big shame. Kojima is a guy that clearly knows how to write these things. Sony really is messing this up badly of lately.
I kojima can be "a bit out there" with his story writing and stuff he does usually leading up to the games release and development but this is clearly a loss.
Sony is really knocking it out of the park these times 🫣
It truly looks like they want to fail. Hero to Zero within three months. Harakiri is a thing I suppose
Worst news ever. I don’t like the future Sony is heading
There may be a valid reason Sony have pulled funding. The statement from Kojima Productions statement doesnt look good for future relations. But its just another PR disaster for Sony. They can't seem to get a good news story out at the moment most of the time its because of there own actions.
It’s actually quite sad, remembering the Shawn Layden and Shuhei days, the pro consumer choices, the amazing games and how they supported indies and developers realising what was important, looking back on how they won the hearts of gamers through memorable moments, creating crazy competition. Competitions great but this is pretty much handing the baton one after another with questionable choices considering how awfully bad their live service phase went, closing incredible studios and all, almost as if they’re letting go of what made them good in the first place?
I’m genuinely concerned about the decision making.
Herman hultz got to go.you taught Jim Ryan was worse Herman hultz is trash 🗑. Word up son
@SuperSilverback you have answered it yourself. Fairgames is going on and they allocate every single penny they have so they can burn more cash when it launches and stays alive for 2 weeks
Come on people, Sony is a business and to let Physint go indicates to me that they dont have the confidence in the title to fund it for a few years. either they dont like the idea or its so niche it'll never break even.
Its bad PR though, and gave XBOX an easy opportunity to get one up on Sony.
But if XBOX actually keeps funding and publishing the game is no garantuee
@Ashina I know that would seem to be the case and logic would dictate that to be true, but the gap between Xbox and ps has never been bigger and Asha so far hasn't done anything to close that gap.
People are simply too entrenched in their ecosystem to leave over 2 kojima games that we know little to nothing about.
Unfortunately for Xbox it's a case of too little too late and I cannot see how helix is going to change anything in that regard.
Don't get me wrong, a proper Xbox resurgence would be good for competition and hopefully consumers so I'm all for it. I think Xbox is comfortably winning in the 'vibes' metric but that counts for very little.
I don’t know the numbers, but my take on Death Stranding 1& 2 was that they were niche titles. Profitable maybe, but not massive numbers.
Sony are surely looking for mass appeal titles that do crazy numbers.
What matters to them is pulling as many people to their ecosystem as possible.
Small profits from niche games don’t tip the needle and whilst the money is nice, it’s small beer to Sony.
@mac_da_man at least Xbox has the advantage of it being partially funded by someone else already, so it should take less sales for them to break even. Could well be a smart move and an easy win. As always time will tell though, this might be the game where people say hideo has lost it and is out of touch.
What. The. Hulst.
@mac_da_man That's the thing. I remember when Pixelopus was shut down, the first thing in my head was "whatever they were making was probably not any good."
This though, the first thing that came into our heads was "GOD DAMNIT SONY, WHY ARE YOU SO EVIL!!!!!" The timing couldn't be worse.
Extremely common Sony L.
Too glad I've switched to Steam 2.5 years ago.
I only pay for Plus Extra and that's it. The rest? I purchase games exclusively on Steam (I've bought 250 games over the last 2.5 years on Steam), so Sony lost a relatively high value user.
Sony’s self-imposed humiliation ritual continues. Just…such idiots.
There’s something about the press release that’s smellss fishy, i’m guessing Sony realizing Physint is having issues with development and since Xbox is in a bit of looking for ways to relaunch…
I know it’s cool to hate on Sony and side with Kojima, but this it not the first time Kojima has had over ambitious ideas that end up bite him back.
We should stop blaming Sony just for the sake of it, we need to understand what were the promises also… there’s more points of view
We knew Kojima was working on DS2 while Physint was announced, obviously Sony did too. But what was the talk? Did Kojima proposed a plan based on its team being capable of working on both projects at the ssme time? Did Physint got out of hands and KojiPro didnt manage to sustain both projects at the same time?
@Sakai I don't think it's that easy to be honest. I can only speak from my own perspective but if I were to jump ship to pc or Xbox it would cost me thousands (considering the cost of hardware/rebuilding my library) and neither of those platforms are even remotely attractive enough for me to make that investment.
I might not be happy with current Sony and I haven't subscribed to plus for years but I am somewhat trapped given the amount I've already invested in the ecosystem and I'd be surprised if I am the only one in that situation.
Sony knows that they basically won the console wars at the start of the Xbox one/PS4 era and have been coasting ever since, they make zero effort but the gap only increases.
Anyone who said maybe Death Stranding 2 ended as a flop and triggered this decision; the game estimated sold 1.6 million copies on PS5 last year and recent PC release sold around 425K+ copies in the first week. For a total 2+ million copies in less than a year and estimate $140+ million revenue, that doesn't sound like a flop to me. Definitely a lot better compare to some Sony 1st party project like Concord, Marathon, Lego Horizon, or Saros.
So, while those aren't official numbers (it was from Alinea so take it with a grain of salt), i have big doubt if Death Stranding 2 was one if not the main reason why Sony decided to end their collaboration with Kojima.
In the end, this is definitely not looking good for Sony. They already made plenty of longtime PS fans angry and jumping ships in the last 2 months. Now they're also burning bridges with one of legendary devs who helped and gave big contribution for Playstation popularity. Sony are digging a giant hole deeper and deeper and next gen is not even start yet.
Oof. See I can live with the digital only stuff. Really don't care one way or the other on that. Console prices going up is kind of out of their hands a bit so i also give some grace there. News headlines like this however will always get my attention. The one area that Playstation has continued to do well in this generation is 2nd/3rd party partnerships.
It's been the reason that the lack of 1st party software, while obviously disappointing, hasn't really hurt my enjoyment of the PS5 generation. But now I see this news and this sort of thing is what could potentially get me to switch to Xbox next-gen.
While I wasn't as hot on the Death Stranding series, Metal Gear Solid 4 was the main reason I went with PS3 back in the day. It's my favorite series of all time. Kojima's name carries a lot of weight for me so when I hear that the game that is supposed to be a return to his roots might only come out on Xbox...it definitely makes me have to think a bit. If the first trailer even remotely evokes the Kojima of old then I might have to consider going with Xbox next-gen.
@Anke This made me laugh far more than it should have! 😂
@Llamageddon I do understand your point of view but dont really agree. You may have a big collection on PS, but that collection wont dissapear even if you support a different company or storefront moving forward. Your PS5 will still function to acess those games. You are not trapped, that is what Playstation want you to think, they are betting on it.
Continuing to support Playstation, despite the issues you admit to having, is not going to be beneficial for you, it will only continue to make them worse and shake you down even more. They have made it clear they dont care about us and only care about their wallet, so hit them where it hurts.
Its your decision at the end of the day, but nobody is trapped.
@Llamageddon Think of it this way. Unless you're going to get rid of your PS5, your games will always be with you wherever you go.
This isn't me trying to encourage you to shift, this is me trying to prevent you from falling into the sub cost falicy.
As if goodwill for Sony wasn’t already at an all time low…now this?
Me thinks some people are slightly overreacting here it's just a single game most likely years away we know nothing about so far!
Also as it stands now it could very well be multiplatform aswell nothing is set in stone just yet.
@Lysterao No, not really. I am not claiming to have any additional information. But Sony did, and they cancelled it, big difference.
@PuppetMaster That sales total should tell you how much games need to sell nowadays just to break even. And let's be honest, breaking even isn't enough. They want to make a massive profit, or else why bother spending the money to begin with?
But it is clear that Sony need to revisit their first party developent strategy with some of their developers. There are some cool things on the horizon, and then there's the actual Horizon game in development which looks as appealing as a three week holiday to Siberia.
@Bionic-Spencer I'm with you, next console will not be sony.
So what happened, the sales numbers from DS2 not good enough to keep Kojima around? Development costs too high?
@Haruki_NLI Well we've yet to hear what Media Molecule are up to these days......
@wilky2988 Probably a combination of things. Death Stranding 2 not selling 10 million units, development not going well, and Sony being increasingly risk averse.
I agree with the folks saying we don't know what the project looked like and how it was going. And I also think Sony really didn't want Kojima to go it's competitors, so it's most likely that the Project wasn't doing too well, either didn't have things to show or maybe was costing them too much.
We're gonna have to wait and see what happens to it under Xbox. If it vanishes then it's most likely the project was the problem.
But I'm hopeful since Xbox has way bigger pockets than Sony.
What a sad day
The final straw for me after decades was being miss sold the ps5 pro with claims not backed up and an obvious beta version of pssr.
This showed they didn't care about quality nor integrity anymore just money.
I had planned on picking up a ps6 had this been an exclusive coz kojima but now I'll just play it on my pc.
Thanks Sony!
@FR4M3 Are you sure Xbox has bigger pockets than Sony? Yeah Microsoft are insanely wealthy, but do you really think Microsoft are THAT interested in spending money on Xbox games, when they can be spending it on AI instead?
Absolutely unbelievable. Sony is on a historical sequence of stupid decisions.
For the shareholders indeed.
@ShadowRJ but they are just publishing the game they arent making it kojima games are an acquired taste imo but i cant think of one thats flopped.
@wilky2988
Probably a combination of both. Kojima loves to hire Hollywood actors after all.
As for as Xbox goes, I don't trust these ***** either.
@ShadowRJ @ShadowRJ you say that but they spent 68.7 billion buying activison and if im not mistaken sonys biggest purchase is bungie at 2 billion so its not like they havent spent big before but yeah its unlikely they will spend that big again but you never know i guess.
A lot of drama over a game likely more than 5+ years away that we know little about, although admittedly I find the level of love for Kojima games odd so this bothers me less than some.
Given what they had said about the game it all sounded very expensive, so I hope Sony have some other good plans in mind and I hope XBox know what they’re getting into and haven’t just jumped on it for a PR win!
Yet another bad news story for PS though, as most will see it. 2027 will be an interesting year to follow them, surely it can’t get much worse?…
Disappointed in Sony, and not confident in Xbox at all.
@Theamazing1 They did that, and then they started porting everything onto PS5, because they want to recoup their investment.
And the reason why Xbox laid off so many people is because Microsoft want to spend pretty much everything they've got on AI right now.
I mean, do they want me to switch back to Team Green at this point? Because I could. They know that we all could, don't they?
It's as if no one at Sony is able to appreciate the effect of bad PR.
Like an AI is making all these decisions because "we need line to keep going up" or because "spreadsheet says no".
A good decision. Ds2 was a bloated mess compared to the first. Over inflated budget cos he wastes so much time and money body scanning celebrities.
It is bad, but at some sense I do understand Sony here. Kojima is great, but who knows what the game was, maybe after 4 years they have just 5 faces done. So, no one wants to fund something for 15 years, even for Kojima. And maybe it was more movie than game itself (which I dont mind, but many players will do complain about) Who knows what is the real reason. I am huge fan of Sony, always was, even with x360 era, which was only real competition. But even then I liked sony exclusive games more than xbox games. KZ or Resitance was better for me than pathetic Halo or great Gears, GT was always better for me than great Forza... etc etc.
But lately I am starting to be afraid, seems like Sony is going the wrong way most of the time.
I dont think that this will affect PS6, almost no players will go to xbox or pc, xbox is still very weak and pc is 5x more expensive, so if 1000 euro is too much, 4,5k for PC is probably out of question. But people will hesitate to go to PS6, especialy with ps5 support for years, the price and the fact that games are starting to be rarity (I mean exclusives) ... not the bright future for gaming if you ask me
maybe we need new console from TenCents , some cheaper version with great games to push sony and ms to right direction again.
Before anyone says dev costs, might I remind you Sony is still backing the development of Horizon Fortnite Generic Knockoff and Fairgame$? Not only that but we still have Marathon which has failed to gather a playerbase. And unlike Physint these aren't a one off money sink, they'll keep draining money even after release.
So no, its probably not a money problem.
Also, they said something about multimedia projects, guess we might see another K-Pop Demon Hunter fiasco coming from Sony.
@ShadowRJ The Microsoft spending money on AI and Xbox as a brand are two sperate things Xbox is more than willing to spend money on there console side of things the recent disc to digital feature proves that.
You are making out like they are spending on AI and ignoring Xbox and it's ecosystem but over the last few months they have been doing the exact opposite with loads and loads of console updates and improvements and they continue to invest in gamepass with the new plague tale being day one on the service.
If anything they are more invested in the console this year than any year since it launch
Well that's awful. I thought it was going to be a PS6 launch title. I'm not going to hate any Studio or Developer into the ground but that situation is really not a good look for them. It would be one thing if it fell into the depths of development Hell. A competitor picking it up, that's really embarrassing.
Sony couldn't make it live service. They are committed to live service games like Marvel Tokon ... (checks steam charts) .. daily peak players less than 1,500. So if PC/PS5 is a 25/75 split, that would put the game well under 10K players at peak for a game that released a month ago.
Someone here was telling me Tokon would be supported by Sony for 10 years ... maybe 10 months if I'm reading the tea leaves correctly.
It’s so funny how Sony is on a generational run for bad decisions but there’s ALWAYS some fanboys who will try to justify every single decision they make even with the most outlandish arguments known to man.
From the creators of “discs are destroying the environment hence Sony is trying to save it” we now get “Kojima wastes too much money on movie stars and Sony is only protecting its budget” without ANY basis to immediately place the blame on Kojima.
Edit: And now some are coping with this by hating on Kojima, on Death Stranding and even on other platforms just for existing, fanboys truly have no limits…
We know nothing about the game, this is true. However, given PlayStation's recent poor decision making, it's hard to give them the benefit of the doubt right now.
Hulst is not making PS the place to play. Yesterday, Nintendo had an amazing bunch of announcements. Say what you will about Nintendo, they've launched game after game and they've all been bangers in the last year. We have another group coming and the next year of games from them look amazing. Sony did that with the PS4 gen and now they have focused more on firing people. Shame on them. I am disappointed and Hulst has led a titan into the mud.
After death standing this announcement has no effect on me. Never liked those games
@Mr-Cage I'm not saying that they're completely ignoring the Xbox brand. What I'm saying is that Microsoft's overall wealth isn't going to be poured into its gaming division like it was in the early 20s.
@UltimateOtaku91 when did the last Kojima game review to average scores? Naa something was said or development is slow
I can definitely imagine Microsoft being one of the few publishers with the pockets to finance the ambition Kojima probably has for this game.
But this is still some real **** news to wake up to
death stranding 2 was not a financial success for sony...in fact sony may have taken a loss on that game or come close to a loss..
Loads of people pissed off. Can you guys who bash Sony again tell me how this game plays? Graphics? Does it control well? Something?
Just going on kojimas name then.
Silly people.
@SodaPop6548 Each to their own, I’ve been playing Nintendo consoles since before I could talk and I thought the Direct was largely atrocious 😂
Another in Sony's long list of tone deaf decisions made this year, they've really evolved into 2013 Don Mattrick.
This cancellation combined with September SoP silence makes me worried about Kena 2. No PS Studios partner games seem safe if Sony's happy to burn bridges with Kojima.
@nessisonett same here except i gave the direct a 7 score so it was meh for me..
PHYSINT is probably still going to come out on PlayStation just like Death Stranded did on Xbox. Sony fans just want another reason to cry about if isn't Metal Gear do y'all really care what Kojima is making🤔
@Grumblevolcano it is about making money death stranding 2 was a flop for sony..
Sounds crazy but hard to get upset over a game we seen nothing from in my opinion.
Overreaction again. We don't even know what the game really is and if it'll do well. Maybe Intergalactic, other games need more funding urgently but PhysInt is taking it's sweet time, something Sony can't afford, what do we know.
@Psnfanboy79 konami owns the rights for metal gear it is up to that company whether they make a new metal gear game..
This is a whale of an own goal from Playstation, and it has problematic parallels to the situation with From Software back in the PS3 era. This is the kind of project you simply don't walk away from, the kind you try to make work no matter the issues that arise. Obviously there was a breaking point, but clearly it wasn't a deal breaker for Kojima Pro. and XBOX. It shouldn't have been for Sony either.
Too much self-inflicted brand damage for Sony lately. Leadership needs to change.
@IllusiveMan
Well, tbf isnt assuming that its a bad decision, without having insight into what they’re doing and what its costing also pretty dumb?
I mean, i find all the comments that seem to definitely know that this a bad decision, even funnier.
If you were working for Sony and had access to all the info, maybe you would even say that its better to cancel it. Unfortunately, in game development, the numbers need to make sense as well.
And guessing that this might be due to costing too much, seeing that it’s probably very ambitious with all the sony pictures involvement and all, isnt really that weird of a guess it seems to me.
Don’t get me wrong, im kinda pissed at Sony for cancelling this. Actually even more so then all the other crap they did
Boy, Sony is ran by actual incompetent morons.
Good on Xbox for picking it up to help Kojima and F Hulst.
Straw that broke the camels back for me this
Good job Xbox! Now your players get to be bored to death by Kojima games like PlayStation players.
🤜🏼🤛🏾
Also, 200 comments on a game that has a name and not much else. Really?
@TheArt I agree that without context over why Sony walked away from the project, it's too early to imediately hate on them for this. I do blame them for hyping up Physint as early as they did in that State of Play, but at this stage that's about it.
It's more of a sign of the times that people are automatically prepared to think the worst of Sony.
Was there anything about this game beyond just ideas? Screenshots, storyboards, etc? Hard for me to be upset about the concept of a game no longer being published by PS Studios anymore.
PSDS is real!
@Resurrected-X460 with so many steam games it's insane to still pay for a subscription. You definitely don't need it.
Can't really blame Sony, given the current economic climate. There's not an infinite money pit, and I imagine the risk is too great with potential spiraling costs with no finish line in sight for the project. Death Stranding 2 probably just about broke-even.
@ShadowRJ And of course Xbox would take it up just cause - anything to one up Sony, not because they actually care about the project. 😆
Considering Sony’s track record as of late and their penchant for doing seemingly the exactly wrong thing, does this really surprise anyone???
I’m out on PS6, guys.
Of course this is where the game news finally actually blows up. I kept trying to mention this game as a big deal for the future and barely anyone respected it in talks. NOW it's a big deal. That's how you know it's all about controversy.
In any case, this a pretty major blow to the project itself since it was more of collaboration. At the same time, should Xbox have been the one to catch this? They got more studio and staff issues going on than Sony, but were quick to catch this one during the very same summer that these things happened. That and Kojima games get pretty pricey and they're already teaming with the him on a completely different game that's also likely expensive. Like can you even begin to imagine the combined costs here?
I dislike this news since I was looking forward to the guy's proper return to the genre and to see him take some creative approaches... but this likely changes a lot of things. At the same time, Sony helped him a ton already and again, the guy's projects aren't cheap. And it's VERY important to remember that this game wasn't going to be an exclusive. Partnered games end up multiplatform so maybe it really is a matter how much they had to pour into it. It was already no walk in the park for the Death Stranding games since it involved the opening of a new studio, Sony's first party tech and publishing, all the actors, etc... but this clearly involved a lot more support.
Either way, I'm sure we'll find out the reason behind everything. The guy ends up everywhere in the industry so I definitely want to study the details with everyone involved closely.
@nessisonett if you have no interest in their first party stuff I can understand that. If you are, though, then it had some great news. I am very excited for the new Metroid and many of the other announcements I found to be exciting.
We will have to wait to see if Sony is making the right call or if xbox is. My thinking is a game doesn't get canceled for no reason. Sony doesn't like something about the game. Is it the quality or the profitability of the game?
@SodaPop6548 IDK yesterday's direct was really an uninteresting one. If it had been a state of play, people would have called it "the worst ever". I'd take the first 2 years of PS5 over these first 1,5 years of switch 2 easily.
This genuinely might be the last straw for me on my interest in the future of PlayStation. What are we even doing anymore, man....
Just LOL.
A game supposed to be PS6 exclusive just became potential Xbox exclusive. Reasons to buy PS6 just disappear one after another.
@ShadowRJ So you say Kojima has issues with quality control? They don’t.
@NessunDorma i too left xbox 360 cus i loved ps3 and wanted ps4. i would crumble for a infamous game remake anytime or killzone. I hate and still do hate halo with a passion. Gears was mid but alright and fable is the only good xbox franchise for me during 360. But man sony fans will bend over as long as they get exclusive and sorry not sorry but i take Great Customer Service over a great product every time.... we shouldnt be advocating for terrible customer service because someone made a 10/10 product. Xbox for all their faults(plenty at that), they dont have terrible customer service compared to sony and sony has fully shown their colours now. They legit think all their fans a gulliable idiots who they only need to dangle great exclusive infront of and they will forgive and forget their previous transgression. Its quite sickening to watch if i am honest because they think they have all their fans figured out
@Leinad7 Anything can go wrong in game development. Let's not forget Cyberpunk 2077's hype.
@ShadowRJ that's fair but if I don't trade my ps5 in, then I'm looking at a minimum £700 for new hardware and I simply can't justify that for a handful of games I have a passing interest in.
I'm with Sony mostly because of preference of controller and I generally prefer their exclusives to Xboxs. PC is a no go for me not only because of the astronomical price of components now but the inherent faff that comes with the settings for most games. Third party games have always been king for me and I've been digital only since the start of PS4 so a lot of Sony's recent decisions have irked me less than most.
So although Sony has massively dropped the ball this gen it's competitors haven't convinced me enough that the grass is actually greener with them.
With all the SONY "Live Service" failures and money wasted on that idea, I'm sure working with Kojima doesn't come cheap and somethings "got to give". SONY probably decided to cut its losses.
@LogicStrikesAgain Logic does indeed strike again. I think in the grand scheme of things burning bridges with Kojima is a bad idea long term (although surely he doesn't have that many games left in him). But definitively calling this a dumb decision when we know next to nothing about the game or the finances behind it is wild. We won't know if this was the right call for years and even then there will be plenty of factors to consider. It could be a 10/10 masterpiece that redefines gaming itself and still not recoup the investment. Or it could be the best selling game of all time and Sony has fudged it completely. If the game was a year from release and we had seen some amazing gameplay I could understand the outrage but it's at least 4 years away and was due to land on a system a large portion of people are saying they have no intention of buying anyway.
Well I could understand why they wanted to pursue live service games, as there's a golden goose there to be found.
I can understand the dropping of physical media for digital, as that's probably where the future lies.
But to cancel a Hideo Kojima exclusive 'tactical espionage' game is just madness. It's a system seller for sure.
What the hell is going on in their heads?
My first reaction was "WTF?," but we honestly have no idea what was happening behind the scenes. We don't know if DS2 generated a profit or in what state this game was in development.
I have faith that the game will be great, but at what cost? We just don't know.
It's easy to blame Sony, but we just don't have any of the information.
Wow the decisions keep getting worse by sony 😂
@NitrousX
Hes horrible. I was excited when he took over from Ryan cause I thought we'd get more games. Its been the exact opposite.
Just a multi generational fumble. Made idiotic investments, listens to clearly biased sources, ended physical, raised prices, closed multiple studios, gaas failing everytime, completely abandoned psvr2, and barely any 1st party games.
Where the 8 horizon projects you fraud? Herman is so inept he cant even get 1 of those projects off the ground. I haven't bought anything PSN since the announcement and I will continue to boycott.
PS is screwed. Next gen is gonna be a disaster. PS enthusiasts are jumping ship left and right. Its gonna be tough without these early adopters
@ShadowRJ I look at several last games from Kojima and quality was top. Unlike in several last games from Sony first party studios which sold badly.
@Sakai I see your point of view but as I said to Shadow RJ if I don't trade in my ps5 then that is a massive wedge of cash I would need to spend on new hardware.
I'd say although my position might make me look like a loyalist, I haven't subscribed to plus in years, 95% of my game purchases are third party and I have been all digital since the start of PS4. Which is why some of Sony's most contentious recent decisions haven't irked me as much as most people.
I suppose I should have worded my original post better as it's more about Sony's competitors not doing nearly enough to convince me join their ecosystem (in addition to ps).
It's been a woeful generation on the first party front across all platform holders in my opinion.
@Llamageddon You can always switch to Switch. Third party releases are only becoming more and more common.
The game probably sucks. Xbox enjoys having mostly crap exclusives so perhaps it's a better fit.
@Canadadry Most of what you said is complete bs. The PlayStation brand is in absolutely zero trouble. The backlash has been from less than 1% of the PlayStation base. PS6 will do perfectly fine. I'll bet you a PS6 on it.
Regardless of the shape the game may have been in, it still would've been a far better deal to go thru with than the vast majority of live service titles that they've greenlit and are still trying to release
I just dont understand the play here. It's so self sabotaging even on a pr level. Surely they understand how bad they look rn? Why don't they care lmao
@Almost_Ghostly That’s pretty huge change of course for fanboys. DS1 and DS2 were hyped and sooo great as long as they were exclusive for PS5. When Physint was announced it was also getting lots of hype.
Now it won’t probably release on PS6.. and suddenly it’s a trash..?
Will be good enough if it’s better than Saros, Tokon, Marathon and Concord. Knowing Kojima quality will be top, and gameplay better than MGS. Have a nice day.
Herman Hulst needs to be fired in a very public and humiliating way.
@Llamageddon Why selling PS5, if it will be getting all their games until mid of PS6 generation. Keep it for those 2-3 exclusives and library and change to whatever you want Xbox/PC/Switch.
I think realistically that the only possible thing that could get me to buy an xbox would be if these Kojima games are exclusive.
@Nei hard disagree. If Sony had done a state of play and announced 2 first party titles coming out in the next year people would be pumped.
The recent SoP had nothing new from first party studios nor did they really have anything they plan to release soon. While I think they had some cool announcements, Sony shared nothing from an iconic IP.
Nintendo had cool announcements with release windows at least. And from first party studios with iconic IPs! It was only “meh” if you don’t like those.
As long as Naughty Dogs next game comes to PS5 pro, this will be my last PlayStation. This decision alone is not the reason as I mostly buy on PC but Sony simply don't have the exclusives to make a $1000 PS6 worthwhile for multiplatform owners.
Good. Kojima hasn't made a good game in YEARS (since Snake Eater tbf). He was going to blow half the budget on his Hollywood rent-a-friends.
I bet the cultists are going to come out of the woodwork to sniff his farts anyway.
@ShadowRJ yes your right but my point is they are definitely more capable than sony on the spending front obviously becuase its microsoft.
Also you never know xbox strategy changes like the wind if they get off to a good start with there next console they might start investing more.
Man alive what on earth are Sony doing?
@ShadowRJ Buddy, this is Kojima. Odds are nothing is gonna slip past him without HIS consent or control. Relax. You act as if Arkane and Kojima Productions were parallels and Redfall was the biggest game Xbox made. You can at least still play Redfall, unlike Concord.
@SodaPop6548 I get your point but the point is the first party reveals felt really lackluster: metered ravenous or Kirby did not impress me in the slightest and I will happily skip them in favor of (way too many) other projects. I preordered OoT after the Zelda direct, though!
@johncalmc well, you're an absolute joy.
@johnedwin proof?
@Leinad7 First off, Soros is fantastic. Secondly, nice cherry picking crappy PS5 games and not mentioning any crappy Xbox games. Fanboy? LOL! I have purchased every gen console from Sony, MS, and Nintendo. But let's face it, outside of a handful bombs, Sonys exclusives have always been steps ahead of MSs. And lets not pretend like MS has had no bombs.
Well I have bee gaming since the late 1970’s….yes a dot and a bat.
Following been mislead by Sony about the PlayStation Pro my feeling is this will be the last console I purchase.
Quality or performance was a choice we were told with the Pro version would no longer need to be…yet not only do we still have them we have fidelity mode as well.
Most developers are not capable of even pushing the base PS5 limits yet without going that extra mile on the Pro version. When you look at trailer for GTA6 Rockstar are technically on another planet with the same hardware.
Why is this, yes they have money that gives them the luxury of releasing one game a generation, can you imagine if every other developer did that?
So what is wrong with the industry?
The PS5 to expensive and difficult to develop games for?
The imagination pool is running very dry many games are churned out each year eg EA sports with often little change?
I have often wondered why buying a disc did not give you a one time digital key so you did not have to keep swapping discs o body looses out and it benefits the consumer.
Though time does move on when Sony announced yes you can still buy and trade games after Xbox launched digital only was a win for Sony Xbox with their hybrid approach is appealing.
However it is inevitable discs will all but die..we live in a digital world now and the black and white is digital sales have tanked considerably.
I do love gaming STRONGLY support PSVR2 people knock it without trying it. SONY’s fault great kit should have been priced to sell take a hardware loss win back over time on game sales. Nope sell at the cost that a stretch too much, few sales make it not viable for the big developers to pick up and hybrid launch flat or VR toggle.
Many VR Games are not stunners but the actual game is innovative and fun. Some games such as FlightSim24 just take the whole game a better as do the resident evil vr games.
Where is Sony on this, launch a great product that most can not afford, lose interest and move .
Ok random ramble over
Somebody give me hope for gaming…PS6 with super dooper real time reflections or seamless loading whatever is not exciting me developers can not in general manage that now. We are getting more and more remakes or generic churned out games with incremental improvements. Yes one or two are very good games but most not even close to pushing of base ps5.
Yes I rambled on but somebody gives me hope for the gaming future before the industry kills itself. So many developers cutting back or closing.
@ShadowRJ ...Or they bought too many studios that don't exactly move units and so they severed them and there was also fourteen layers of management and stuff can get lost with just ONE LAYER. Folks like you act like you give a care about folks being laid off when you actually don't.
Sony literally shut down one of the best studios for remakes and remasters, gutted Bungie, bought a film studio that SPECIALIZES with AI, killed discs which is one of the best perks about PS and now squashed and possibly squandered their relationship with one, if not the, best video game directors of all time. And yet, we hear crickets from you about those decisions.
But, nah mate "Microsoft did Redfall! They can't be trusted" while Nintendo and Sony made Pokémon Scarlet/Violet and Concord and guess what folks talk about far more. It ain't Redfall.
@16BitHero PS6 doesn't have enough exclusives? How exactly do you know that? LOL! The also said they aren't porting to PC anymore so the PS6 will have more than the PS5. Despite the low amount of exclusives, you're acting like there haven't been many PS5's sold. Heck, can barely even find Pros in stock. People are paying over $1k for one. On launch and for a decent amount of time after, people were more than willing to pay scalpers $1-2K for a base PS5. you really thing people are going to skip PS6 due to a 1K price? LOL! C'mon.
@Almost_Ghostly Let's not pretend Sony had none either, mate. But my personal experience is, with PS games, once you Plat, you never go back. No, not even NG+ for a one trophy. Meanwhile, I keep playing Halo, Gears and other games on Xbox, even completed ones, constantly.
Yeah… this seals the deal for me next gen. The Pro will be my last PS console. 🤦🏽♀️ 💯
@Almost_Ghostly I work in retail and I do keep track of console sales. We have literally been moving Series S and X's and the ROG Allies more than PS5s lately. And we get like, 3 PS Pros...every 2 months. And when we first got them, they sat on the shelf, even before their prices changes, for A WHOLE YEAR AND A HALF.
I am also convinced you weren't born during the Ps3 era because, yes, that $600 tag did hurt it for a LONG TIME.
@Trojan The crummy PS games were already mentioned in the comment I was replying to, genius. Most importantly, you're completely full of it. A good amount of PS exclusives have NG+. Might want to research your info before posting nonsense.
I feel like the only way this story could get wilder is if Sony turns out to be the buyer of Undead Labs or Ninja Theory.
i'm guessing it was a bunch of things , sony probably wanted a time frame and they couldn't get one. od is the game hes working on atm and we have no idea when that game will be out. its easy to say pysint will easily be released in the 2030's if od is a 2028 or 2029 game it could be 2032 or 2033 before psynit gets released.
Likely getting way Too expensive for something that isn't gonna sell big numbers. MGSV all over again
Microsoft has unlimited money to let him go nutz and do his crazy Kojima stuff . Just poop it out onto games pass without sales pressure
While this sucks, I do wonder why Sony backed out 🤔
@Almost_Ghostly Brother acts as if scalper pricing, based on FOMO, is the exact same as Sony pricing something...and they got stock for days.
You console warriors are such sad, strange little men and I pity you.
PlayStation taking L after L. Good on Xbox for picking up this project.
At this point it's difficult to not take these decisions personally. They seem to truly hate their core audience and are intent on doing everything they can to make that known.
@Almost_Ghostly I didn't say they don't have NG+.
I have said that even NG+ wouldn't convince ME to go back to playing the games again. I literally just platinum Ghost of Yotei. I uninstalled and put that game up and will not be playing the Legends, DLC or New Game+ content. Why?
I don't give a *****.
@LogicStrikesAgain I’d agree with that justification if Sony was in such a dire position losing money quarter after quarter but they’re not, in fact they’ve repeatedly stated this is their most profitable generation ever and particularly this fiscal year is the best in PlayStation history, did they really have such a dire need to cancel a project of one of their most longstanding partners? It’s not like Kojima is an unproven dev, Death Stranding was both a commercial and critical success and the sequel has already sold better than most PS Studios releases this gen.
The same Sony who funded Concord for $400 million is now doubting Kojima’s next big thing?
Given the long-standing partnership (and the fact that Kojima himself is a Sony fan) why outright seeking to cancel it instead of negotiating different terms? Or why even signing and publicly announcing the partnership for this game in the first place?
This is cocky Sony showing itself again, same thing with the getting rid of discs situation, they didn’t have to go nuclear and cease physical games entirely but they feel so untouchable they don’t care and now we know they don’t care about maintaining devs relationships but they’re quickly forgetting that precisely solid devs relationships (and CDs) is what made PlayStation so strong in the first place...
@GeeEssEff
I hadnt thought of that. It wouldve been a digital only release which supposedly no one wants, no disc no buy. And on a console people claim to not want
Pretty much sums up internet comments, a whole bunch of nonsense and fake ideals
@Almost_Ghostly The PS6's exclusives for a couple years will be remasters of PS5 games and crossgen games that also launch on PS5 lol be real man
Owning multiple platforms (if you can) is essential these days. PC/PS5/Switch (2) is the way to go.
@Almost_Ghostly You don't have a PS5 so I already don't believe you about Saros.
Also, never trust man who thinks The Chant was a 10/10 game but Doom is a 4/10.
@nomither6 But Xbox/PC/Swith/PS5 is even better. Why? Because Xbox can play Xbox 360 and OG Xbox games WITHOUT needing to fiddle with an emulator.
That and I am NOT rebuilding an 800 plus Xbox game collection on PC or PS or Switch 2 to save my life.
I'm just gonna leave my previous comment here as well:
This generation has been infinitely inferior in terms of output and game quality, and rampant anti consumer practices/downright idiotic decisions. It really shows. Its like a skinwalker has taken over Playstation's soulless shell and is parading it around. They are on their way to become the most hated gaming company.
Removed - trolling/baiting
@Trojan Yeah, I agree; more options is good. I still have my 360 so backwards compatibility isn't an issue for me.
@ShadowRJ I still haven't forgiven or still fully trust CDPR for that mess. And no, a massive patch and Netlix series with waifu bait did not smooth it over for me. Hell, until Witcher 3, I would argue that no one really CARED about CDPR but now they're treated like royalty. It's weird.
@nomither6 I have a Series X (my main game system), a Wii for Wii and Gamecube games, a Retron 5 for all the NES, SNES and Genesis games, my BC PS3 for my PS1-PS3 games, a PS5, an Xbox 360, a PC for odd ball indies and a Switch 2 and a DS Lite and OG GBA.
@Trojan fully with you on CDOR. They made a great game, then everyone acted as if they were always the best. Witcher 1 didn’t even have very good reviews
There goes the only reason to own a PS6, thank you Asha for saving me from such a purchase.
PC and Switch 2 is the only way forward after I hang up the PS5 Pro.
@Bionic-Spencer facts. Also been with PlayStation since the 90s. The Pro unfortunately is my last PlayStation. You can’t fck up anymore than they already have. Who would’ve thought, smh lol
What a set of nesbits over there at Sony.
@Trojan That's awesome, team multiplatform master race, am i right??? I never see a point in getting rid of old systems (unless the newer one is BC) anyway.
@SodaPop6548 it wasn't this SoP, but the last one they announced 2 new 1st party games of which we now know both are coming super early 2027, and even showed actual gameplay meanwhile Nintendo got away with showing absolutely nothing for Ocarina a 2026 game. And as for these recent shows, they literally showcased like 6 different games that sony has already done as recently as last weeks showing. The rest was the usual below AA/indie fodder that Sony always gets flak for showcasing. There's a clear bias but I mean Sony only has themselves to blame for any negativity that comes their way
So, let me get this straight, Kojima and the prestige that comes with (especially since Physint might be his final game) is not worth the money, but wasting 5 years on trash like Horizon Hunters Gathering, Fairgames (which still isn't cancelled somehow), and Marathon. What the hell is wrong with the suits at Playstation?
I know it's a big deal but I still think the game comes out on Playstation regardless. With how much this game is probably going to cost it should make Microsoft decide to make it multiplatform to make a profit, if they just put it on gamepass and think Xbox fans can make it worth it I'd be surprised.
Also I haven't really played a Kojima game since MGS V( I do want to get into Death Stranding at some point but it's way down in the backlog) so I can definitely wait 3-5 years to play this game, especially if it's multiplat which it probably will be.
I also think Herman will be gone in a year or so and then we will see some good changes at Playstation, had to say that as a side note lol.
I seen a joke that Sony though the Phys in Physint meant Physical discs and had to pull out. But I guess this will add a 3rd thing to add to all PS videos going forward Physical disc, Destiny 3 and Now Physint
Does Sony not like games developed in Japan or are they chopping their own limps off to keep afloat their Western studios?
@ShadowRJ I already have a deck for all the indies I can't get on playstation, so I would only get a switch for their exclusives which I don't particularly care for. Haven't played a Pokémon or mario game since the GBA and Zelda has never been my cup of tea.
Getting 3rd party games on switch 2 doesn't make sense as my ps5 is more powerful.
Though I do appreciate the suggestion!
@ShadowRJ
Then why bother announcing the project early if Sony doesn't trust Kojima with Physint will bring massive profits?
Like really. Sony spent $400 million for Concord, a new IP from a brand new devs who have zero track record. But did they cancelled it early like they did with Physint? Nope. They keeps pouring money on it. Heck, Sony promoted Concord like it will become as big as Star Wars but we all knew what happened.
Then Fairgame$ first trailer doesn't looks convincing at all like it have a tiny bit chance to bring massive profits. Then Jade Raymond, the project leader, left Sony. Years later we still don't know if this game will come out or not. But did Sony cancelled the game? Nope.
Horizon Hunters Gathering got very negative receptions from closed beta. Did Sony cancelled it? Nope. They reworked the game aka keeps pouring money on it despite it could be a flop.
So why Kojima, a legendary devs with great track records, didn't get the same chance? I doubt Physint would be as expensives as Concord.
This is strange. It was a shoe in to make lots of money not because it was good but because it had kojimas name attached
Metal Gear is one of the sh**tiest, most overrated franchises ever. This news is music to my ears.
@Nei the metroid announcement got me pumped. I love Metroid and a new 2D Metroid made me thrilled. I like the look of the new Kirby game. Should be cool. Also really enjoyed the new Star Fox and I’m interested in the GameCube online release they are doing with SF Adventures. I plan to get the OoT remake as well. Possibly at launch. Lots of cool games!
Another classic example of how horrid Sony has been this generation and helps solidify how this is the worst PS gaming era ever.
The name was too close to "physical," so they couldn't be associated with it.
@Judal27 we saw significant gameplay from the OoT remake. Not sure what you are talking about. I also think they showed off what they needed to with the Metroid announcement.
To your point on the previous state of play, yeah, I think they’ve had cool announcements. Not arguing that, it’s just that you don’t see Nintendo in the news for shutting down studios and canceling games. If they cancel something, it’s before we knew about it. Sony has just been bad headlines while Nintendo is launching games. That’s my point. I’m excited for many of Sony’s launches, but they are tainted by their dumb business moves and poor fan communication.
With respect to indies, I always love to see them. Even if I think they aren’t for me, sometimes they surprise me. Sometimes they come out with some serious gems.
@mac_da_man in what world is death stranding more viable than a game that promises to return to the stealth genre on the level of a metal gear game? poor excuse and deflection there on your part
Most wanted, preferably more dead than alive:
Hermen Hellst
Hiroki Totoki-literature club
Lin "the bog bitch" Tao
@Almost_Ghostly Can’t tell about Soros, don’t know this dude, but Saros is pretty average. Sales wise also not very successful.
Not cherry picking. Didn’t even have to. That list was 15 seconds to make.
Their exclusives this gen are basically their exclusives from last gen. Play the same.
Since next gen they will safely release just the same games for third time.. I pass.
@Trojan man, Series X can emulate PS1/2 games that aren’t available on PS5 too
Hermen looked at this and said "Yeah, but the Horizon live service spinoffs come first so...."
Feels like Sony is speed running Playstation into obscurity.
@SodaPop6548 I was talking about the 1st time they announced the remake, not the Zelda direct. As, at the time, Sony showed off 2 1st party games and with game play but their show was still considered worse than the direct
@Porco
I havent seen much of the game or the ideas at all, while I assume Sony has. Even though thats what Kojima promises Sony decided to drop the game regardless. So yeah, I think they have a reason behind ”Sony evil”.
@oc1d Dam right
@ShadowRJ Microsoft are publishing it that's all
@PuppetMaster The game is estimated to have a production budget of $150 million or more, potentially even north of $200 mil...so that's a loss. It needs to sell like 5 million copies (at full price) to even start to be worth it for them. Hollywood celebs don't work for cheap.
Remember during the PS4 gen how the likes of Andrew House was so happy to have Kojima as an exclusive for PS4 with Death Stranding??
They couldn't get enough of the man and yet now they get rid of him just like that, there's more to it than meets the eye here
@SMJ Totally
@Judal27 ah, well I can’t speak to the bias. I get excited when new stuff is announced. Either way, Sony’s negative headlines have outweighed their good ones.
Is PlayStation actively TRYING to lose consumer trust and market share?!
Borrowed comment from IGN:
Sony has straight been like "You know what, PS4 was TOO good. We gotta reign it in."
And boy have they.
@Sweetz That was a rough estimates. For starter, Death Stranding 1 was officially break even + profitable in the mid of 2020 or 6-7 months after released and sold like 2 million copies. So i have doubt for that rough estimates. DS 2 could be cost $100 million or less considering it used the same Decima Engine with plenty of reused assets from the first game.
And while Hollywood celebs are expensives, i believe they have lower pay scale for video games. Sony might be paid them less expensives than what people thinks.
Although this stupid dissision by Sony, i can imagine that the full freedom that Kojima had within the Sony realms must have been gigantic. The money that is needed is no problem for MS……. Smart move and on a positive note…….it brings back the competition wich brings better games!!! I love Kojima games and i’m sad this one is going to Xbox. But bring on the fight.
Difficult to say if Sony made the "right" call, time will tell since we'll get to see the project reach completion thanks to Xbox.
My best theory; and Kojima does have some previous with this, is Sony agreed to a certain time-line and cost, but Kojima's tendency of mission creep and perfection saw that timeline and cost reach a level Sony wasn't willing to accept anymore, especially considering their recent struggles.
Sad, but glad the game is still coming.
@PuppetMaster I mean, despite what children in the comments think, they don't cancel games for shats and giggles. I'm sure Death Stranding 2 would have earned Kojima a little more runway if it was profitable...
Just came here to shout at the clouds. This blows.
As I already said on this website, you live in some dream world if you think Sony's decision to drop physical games has nothing to do with the type of games they are gonna produce in the future.
They want to sell V-bucks, GTA VI and EA FC. Not big solo exclusives like they used to. People who bought those games were buying them digitally, yes, but an huge part of them still bought them physically (around 40-50%).
This is just another sign of this. Mark my words, Sony will keep chasing the live service trend, until they go bankrupt.
@Oldstalk That makes no sense. They get 30% of every article sold on PS Store, I think they are fine even if they make some singleplayer games.
Edit: And of 21 liveservices games I think 4 are still in production as of September 2026, the rest is singleplayer games... just saying.
@Almost_Ghostly I was simply saying, for me, the specific exclusives might not be enough for me to part with that kind of money. I know people will still buy PS6 and I'm sure some of the exclusives will be tough for me to skip but my multiplatform days are behind me with industry costs/prices going the way they are. I've been on PlayStation since 1995 and I'm sure it'll remain the market leader for console unless they really screw something up
@mac_da_man since when was sony's judgement sound about literally anything? and this game is so early in development that i doubt even kojima has it all figured out. it's a bad call. it's the wrong call. it's a bad look for a company that cant buy a single PR like from anyone these days. so yea... let's just dump one of the last great auteurs of the medium despite him never producing a bomb in his entire career... because...
@goose9 for stealth action its an easy argument to make as the best franchise.
Let’s call the company what it is, washed up and losing every damn fight after fight. Sony Ferguson!
Sony is about to have a big Icarus moment with the PS6 the way it's all going..
This is the game of ironies: Xbox lays off all its developers, and then some, closes studios and cancels projects, but they still have money for Kojima's next marijuana smoke.
And Sony, shooting itself in the foot by announcing the death of physical media, claiming that digital games are no longer ours even if we pay for them, shuts down Bluepoint Games, cancels Hideo Kojima, but the mediocre Concord had to be released, because all those damn games-as-a-service are still there.
@zebric21 You're right, I'm in somewhat of a sunken cost fallacy though. I've had my Plus since 2010, so I have TONS of games there. If I stop paying for it I'll lose access to literally 1,000+ games that I have there. So that's why I'm still renewing (and I'm ashamed to admit that it's the premium tier in fact).
It would be fun if it release only on Xbox and be absolute success.
no PS6 for this guy.
There must be more to this and its why i'm mixed on the news. DS2 underperformed and Kojima loves going over budget so have Sony had enough of that (like Konami did) or is Sony just being modern Sony? Hopefully Jason covers this.
@Gunnerzaurus Kojima also loves spending millions on Hollywood actors who do a worse job then voice actors. People forget Konami dropped him because he takes the piss with budgets and failing to meet deadlines. Death Stranding 2 cost a fortune to make and only sold 2M from what i've heard.
Not even as a Kojima fan, which I am, I seriously hate Sony right now. So much.
My console has been unplugged since the blackout.
@MARl0 people keep saying this , but i don't think people realize the ps5 is their most successful console to date.
@djlard i guess we'll find out in 2034 when it comes out.
sony cancelled this project in mid june why it it only being mentioned 3 months later let me guess it is all part of the narrative to bash sony since they will end physical games.
Sony right now
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@twitchtvpat so soon? I expect 2040...
May I ask what kind of game it was its not throwing shade on Kojima but I really don't know what it was?
@DennisReynolds What was the game about did we see anything yet from the game?
@Orpheus79V But what habe we see from the game so far absolutely nothing i know its Kojima but seriously I think we didn't even have had a single trailer yet?
@Van_Helsing Im more sad about physical media then the Kojima game I have not seen anything from it yet?
As much as I want to really mad I just cant be the thing I saw is Kojima talking about the game.
I wonder what is going they are not going to drop a name this big without a reason.
What is even going on with the game, gameplay, what does it look like, releasedata what is going on?
@Flaming_Kaiser thats the thing there is no game atm , hes working on od for xbox. so it sounds like the actual development of the game is years away after 2028 , so if it takes around normal time frame for his games it would be 2033 to 2035 before this game is released.
It's almost like Sony tries to kill Playstation, as an easy way out of the business 🤣
Well, now we all know what happens, when Sony don't have any competition. Kojima at Xbox, might finally kickstart some competition again.
@Flaming_Kaiser Its a stealth game in the vain of MGS what was going to blur the line between film and game or something. That's it that's all we know.
I am so fed up with Sony, bad move after bad move… I hate Xbox and their megalomaniacal money throwing and merger and acquisition joblessness spectacular, but Sony are getting there to… blackout continues for me…. And keep physical!
Per Bloomberg, Physint already went over budget and missed multiple development deadlines. Not a good situation for a game not even releasing for another 5+ years.
The more details leak, this might not actually be the worst decision in the world. Poor sales of the last game, this one already over budget and behind schedule with it still being years out. Definitely going multiplatform and Sony going console exclusive for all single player games.
@8th_Observer yup, no different than every sony 1st party title in development.
Sony continues it’s losing streak. A nightmarishly bad last 4 months for them.
i love my xbox , but its crazy how people have forgotten Microsoft has canceled more games then sony , laid off way more people then sony, it feels like people are just coming to this site these days to troll more then make actual comments. half the names i've never even seen comment till recently.
@Trojan Kid, you triggered af. Tag me like 10 times in a row ?😂 Not only do I have a PS5 Pro, but also a Switch, Series X, gaming PC, PS1 PS2, PS3, Wii, Wii U and N3DSXL. Simp about Gears Eday not on PS5? Nope. Can play it on my Series X and/or PC. Next time maybe put in some actual effort in your troll posts.
It cannot be Hermen Hulst who made the decision. Someone else pulled the plug here. Hermen was sanctified in Death Stranding and proud to stand on stage and present the next evolution in action stealth. It's the spreadsheet suits that robbed Playstation of Kojima.
And that throws my relationship with Playstation into somewhat of a crisis. I read an opinion from Matt Purslow, IGN, that really caught my attention. He writes:
"But the big picture question remains: if Kojima returning to the espionage genre that helped define PlayStation in the first place isn’t the correct move, then what is? If Sony doesn’t want to invest in arguably one of the most obvious solutions to push its signature single-player games forward and break its creative stalemate, then what will define the PlayStation 6?"
This question really resonates with me. I hoped this generation would evolve and innovate on game play. It has mostly been performance, load times and graphics that has moved forward. This generation it is, of course in my opinion, Disco Elysium, Baldur's Gate 3 and Astro bot that has elevated game play in their respective genres.
I am drawn to RPG, Action/Stealth and strategy games. Sony hasn't really made any games of note in these genres for a while - except for action games naturally. So sure, they have some of the best games on the planet irregardless, but they've really squandered the potential to step forward. It seems they have stepped many steps backwards instead.
I see absolutely no reason to invest in a PS6 as I have an awesome trifecta in PS5 Pro, PS Portal and PSVR2. They might as well lean into the business strategy of phone companies and let multiple consoles be part of the eco system instead of aiming for everyone to migrate to newer consoles. And they must be - they've kept PS4 relevant for so long they had to send feeble requests to that user segment to consider jumping to the new console. This pattern will be a permanent feature of the gaming landscape moving forward.
So, what will define PS6? It looks like the hunt for lucrative multiplayers will continue. That the PlayStation 3rd person-style game will reach its third iterative edition, but without the evolution many are craving. It is also a future of many different skews coexisting allowing Playstation to monetize the users.
@DennisReynolds Kojima has made fantastic games. Astrobot with 4.3 million sales as a Playstation exclusive at less then a 100 million.
Death Stranding 2 2.5 million sales with a budget of 150/200million with only 1.8 million sales on Playstation and Astrobot was called a failure by so many people.
I would rather see a Astrobot crossover with LBP or Tearaway at a fraction of the costs probably and 3 years faster.
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