Sony's PS6 Strategy Is 'Top of Mind', Cloud Streaming to Remain Ancillary to Local Play

Remain "Oblivious" to Local Play, fixed it for ye 😉👍

Im sure the last I heard cloud streaming isn't good for consistent high resolution and high framerate, without lag. Until that changes I dont see it being viable to Sony whose market is the higher tech end, with Nintendo being the lower tech (no sleight on them) hybrid end.

I could be huffing on cope but I do have a lot of faith for the PS6 to more like the PS4 era.

@Jrs1 I’ve actually heard nothing but good things about Sony’s cloud streaming… from reliable sources too.

@Oram77 puff-puff-pass homey 😉

@graymamba it's good **** man, want a try.

So making games for current gen isn't top of their list... wow...

@Oram77 that’s what I was indicating buddy, pass that **** on 😁

@Zeke68 and what you expect after so many flops? It is time to move on. They risked it, it didnt went well, time has passed. PS6 will come out sooner than it will take to make some great games.

Can the PS6 please make even more efforts to prevent overheating. The PS5 seems to have real problems with this

@Rob_230 really? Compared to my PS4 and PS3, mine’s like a cool breeze.

@Rob_230 have you ever cleaned it from dust? I play PS5 2k+ hours yearly, and when it started to happen, it was all full with dust, I am not talking only fan, but main issue was with Heatpipe vent part. Cleaned that and all went back to normal. But it took to open up it completely

Cloud streaming 🥱🥱🥱🥱

@REALAIS So you think it's ok to leave all PS5 / PS5 Pro buyers hanging without much more games after the big investment a console is ?? You can't be serious?!! I don't know about you, but I bought it mainly for 1st studio singleplayer games.

@Zeke68 I bought for gaming. I have PS5 and now mainly drive PS5 Pro. I have PS5 as my main gaming hub and I don't lock myself only for 1st party games, yes.
Then you can be pissed off, Single Player games will be some part of future games, they are still pushing for multiplayer style of games. There are some coming, Ghost of Yotei is soon here.

@REALAIS @Rob_230 Yes, the PS5 seems to have a curious issue where it tries to suck in as much fluff as possible and leave it on the fan and all the innards. It's way worse than the PS4 but at least you can pop a side off and get the hoover in there a bit easier.

The day gaming is 100% streaming is the day I stop. Imagine everyone who plays video games all drawing from the exact same resources at the same time. All the lag and downscaling...

Stadia tried and it failed miserably.

@REALAIS Ghost comes in october, like a year after Astrobot. If that's ok for you, so be it. But I don't like the slow releaseschedule from Sony's own studios.

@Zeke68 We don't either, but there's nothing we can do about it.

This is definitely the place and platform for me 😁

@Zeke68 what do you mean "slow"? Games take time to make. Ghost took 5 years and that in general is Sequel, not even new IP, which would take even more time on average to be made. It is what it is.

You like Sony 1st party games, but do you follow that mostly every sequel is getting worse and worse sales? I am more happy with 3rd party games than with Sony games. KCD2? Awsome. Expedition? Awsome. Roadcraft? Awsome for me.

I am here to enjoy good games from whatever company it comes and not be constrained to some loyalty for companies because they did something 5-10-20+ years ago. Time moves on, things changes and usually big coroporations are not able to change things, because they are too big for that.

@REALAIS They had 21 studios but they shut down more studios than they release games last years. Slow - compared to last gen.

@Zeke68 They cancelled probably same amount projects at the same time. Thats how they roll, cancel project, fire most of them, open new project, hire some back. They wanted to release more than 12 Live service games in 2-3 years. That all has consequences, and maybe you shouldnt be target locked to expect from Sony things what happened 10 years ago.

@REALAIS Or maybe I should do just that as they stated, over and over again, they are still 100% commited to singleplayer games...

@graymamba Fair enough 👍

@Zeke68 They are commited, becasue they are making it, but now big portuon will be online/live service games.
They have Marathon in works, if they can save it. Fairgames making heist online game, there is Horizon Multiplayer game and another Horizon MMO game in works.
At same time, Ghost of Yotei is closing in, Intergalactic will be, Spiderman 3 is in works, and Wolverine. It feels laike 50/50

Man the ps6 might be a historically terrible launch if they can’t justify its existence. While I echo their sentiment around cloud gaming, hardware isn’t going to suddenly fix game design.

Won't AI be able to cut these development times for games soon. I bet it will be able to make games in a fraction of the time eventually

I am looking forward to cartridges coming back with the PS6.
Hopefully the dwindling sales of the PS5Pro sent a message that they can't leave physical behind.

@Rob_230 You must have a faulty system, PS5 is the most quietest and coolest system I've owned from Sony since the PS2 (I have the launch PS5).

I have two PS3s & two PS4s, if I turn all of them on I can simulate what is like living in an Airport inside a Volcano 🤷🏻‍♀️

PS6, will be the first PS console, that I won't buy on launch.
I'll probably wait a couple of years, and see how the generation plays out, when it comes to first party games.
The few NATIVE Sony games for the PS5, that I enjoyed this generation, I can count on one hand...

I think the PS6 is going to be crazy powerful. I mean the graphics they can get to now on PS5 and PS5 Pro is amazing. But PS6 will take a huge leap in tech in both the CPU and GPU with the base model launching with FSR 4 upscaling tech. Exciting stuff. Sony seems to be taking a huge interest in co developing with AMD and that should make it even more efficient in the PS6. Throw in the fact that Sony has fumbled the ball first party wise with so many games cancelled that the PS6 is likely to have a huge amount of titles that are beginning work now. I would like to see them make the Ui a little better but it works as is and please Sony for the love of common sense don’t make the console need a stand to lay flat.

@Nem PS5 Pro is to expensive that’s why it’s not selling more on top of that it’s a niche device. Most people are happy with the base unit. Look to Sony’s sales figures and it shows that digital is crushing physical media sales. Sure that stinks for those that like physical media but it’s only going to continue to shrink to a less than 5% marketshare and stores and devs won’t see it as profitable business sense. Sadly but this is the case.

@graymamba @sanderson72 @Juanalf @REALAIS yeah I try to clean it every couple of months. It COULD just be Assassins Creed Shadows (I remember hearing all about FF16 having issues - although that isn't something I replicated), but my PS5 has popped up a message a few times warning me it's overheating.

It's quiet as a whisper when streaming tv etc, but games like like a dragon, FF7, and AC shadows make the fans go into overdrive. This is my second unit too, so either I am very unlucky or there is something wrong with my set up.

I have the system standing vertically with plenty of ventilation on all sides, so im not really sure what else it could be

I’ll be getting a PS6 at some point, I have been dabbling with PC handhelds, Steam Deck and Claw 8, but still can’t beat just turning on my PS5 and playing Uncharted 4 in 4K on my OLED TV.

Just make ps6 that a bit more powerful than ps5 pro, smaller than ps5, using horizontal design like ps1-4, and maybe dualsense 2 that have 5 inch screen for streaming ps6 games.

And have steam deck like portables option for ps1-5 games (ps6 using cloud), by the time ps6 launch I think ps5 performance can be achieve using available amd (for portables) cpu.

Tried cloud gaming on both consoles.
And it’s strange the company Xbox making a big deal of it and pushing it has the worse cloud gaming fidelity and picture quality and smoothness.
Sony seems a bit better on all levels.
Anyway glad to Sony keeping the downloaded game experience at the top of their list above cloud gaming.

I really hope PS6 still able to play games physically with disc drive on it from beginning and provide more 3rd kids games like from Outright Games, more cozy farming games like Harvest Moon or Story of Seasons, etc.

@Cornpop76 I tested that recently, and DOOM The Dark Ages on PC Game Pass on the top end GeForce Now sub is truly sublime, I tested it on an OLED Steam Deck and got a solid 90FPS with every single setting maxed out using DLSS and having every Ray Tracing option maxed out too. But… the game was ‘down for maintenance’ for about 4 day’s. So I cancelled it for now as I only paid for a month to use it but you cannot guarantee you can play the games when you want to.

Investors are clearly eager to jump on any PS6 news, given the current sales climate. It’s nothing but R&D right now.

@Anya-chan Nintendo switch utilizes this with kingdom hearts series that aren't native and resident evil 2 and 3 remake and you gave them a free pass for it, but not sony or microsoft.

Cloud streaming to die before consoles. 😂

@Rob_230 maybe get one of those fans that clip on the back fo push more air in. I keep mine in a cupboard with the door closed and i have mounted 2 USB PC fans in the back. 1 blowing in on the intake and one sucking out by the exhaust. Its cool when i open the door and i dont hear a thing.

@HonestHick They have to have physical or else it will be a monopoly and they will have to open the ps store to 3rd parties.

@Nem we are seeing MS open it’s platform to more stores and i think in time others will follow in a 90 plus % digital world or maybe there will be laws in place as to how to monitor it so it doesn’t become anti-consumer. Not sure how that works out in the end, but as someone that goes to Best Buy and shops a decent amount. They have next to no physical media in the games aisle anymore. Sad to see really, even GameStop has announced they are focusing less on games and moving to cards and grading and selling cards. So physical media is in a weird spot. Nothing comes with physical media drives anymore but video games. Vehicles and PC’s don’t even offer it anymore. Meaning less and less companies and parts for the physical drives even exist. Plus the games don’t run from the disk anymore and of course as games get bigger the format won’t keep up in size. So knowing all this, i give it maybe one more gen for Sony with pyshical media being lightly offered. But again i feel sorry for those that like it. I gave up physical media at the start of the PS4. So i ripped that bandaid off a long time ago. Good luck out there collecting!

@Rob_230 I cleaned my slim after 19 months of use and it wad a night and day difference it gets very easily clogged

With enough work to do on native/upscaling and local hardware I think it's fair. They can have trademark and more but I mean unless the games/consoles are good enough I still won't care. XD Even if prefer local then internet and lag and more.

They can scale the resolution/other factors it still won't do anything for me if gameplay inputs are slow and artstyle/resolution won't change much for me.

If I have already experienced casting my phone to a TV and it's rough compared to the expert efforts of Wii U locally and PS Vita to PS4/PC/Portal, etc. Steam Link, Xbox and more options being better then the phone to TV less effort put in to cast it then yeah there is a difference of casting/streaming from whichever devices, servers, etc. to do these things and even be worth while (bit off topic but kind of connected) even if different levels and servers versus smaller range of Modem/phone/TV bouncing between the image.

Cloud is 'getting there' and is fair as an option and to me even as rental so to speak even if you still need decent internet but even still local is better. It's up to companies how they handle it of demos/game trials or we look at footage and find out not dive in straight away to something, waste time on a download/install space and so on.

I haven't cared for modern gaming since 2017 or even a bit earlier so to me I'm too pick and choose of Indies and niche first party to care at all let alone the hardware/gimmicks haven't impressed me either.

If they don't have an option for physical games I won't be buying one. If I want to play on a PC I'll just buy a PC.

@HonestHick No, we are not talking about discs here. I did say cartridges, like the switch 2. They are as fast as an SSD and have more space than a dual layer blu ray. That is the only option for physical going forward.

@Rob_230 Clean your room is my tip this console was the most silent console i had so far om the PS platform.

@HonestHick Thanks i probably can play untill the end comes. I buy new stuff but less of it i buy what i want

@Kidfunkadelic83 Or hear me out put the thing in ventilated environment and keep it clean you can get furniture that can do you can even open it up on the back and work on better ventilation.

@SuntannedDuck2 I can totally relate im ancient and man i miss my PS1, PS2, Super Nintendo, Gameboy days. I even loved the PS3 the PS4 was good but it slowly went to hell.

@Flaming_Kaiser unfortunately for me an open ventilated space is out of the question as my wife doesn't want consoles etc on show and neither do i really. I want minimal clutter lol. Ive never had a problem with my PS5 getting hot or noisy at all personally and i will every 3 or 4 months clean out the fans.

@Kidfunkadelic83 you could open up the back of the furniture nobody sees that.

I always forget that spouses or people in general can get so upset with a electronic device.

There are so many nice solutions for devices that keep them tucked away and well ventilated.

@Flaming_Kaiser the cabiney is pushed back quite far to the wall, about 1 inch away. Without the fans i dont think i would get the required air flow. I just UBD them to the rear of the ps5. When it comes on so do the whisper fans. As lovely as my wife is she doesnt share my love for gaming or collecting various consoles and handhelds 😂

@Nem i mean if Sony went to a cart like switch 2 with most of the game on the cart i may be interested in that again. But i just don’t see them doing it. As many 3rd parties are being lame with the Switch 2 and only putting the license on it. But that could be cool if they did that. I like your idea, just not sure we see it. Hope we do tho.

@Flaming_Kaiser Understandable, it's why I'm experiencing them now, more of the past eras or ones never did. I'm not seeking 'ALL' the mainstream ones people want (sure old Medal of Honor/CODs, or other odd IPs or spin offs in the JRPG space or other stuff, it all varies, but mostly B/AA type stuff or shovelware), I explore more, some may be terrible but that's what's so fun about researching them, like some quotes many people get ideas from bad games as they were just executed bad or marketed bad or whichever the case unnoticed.

I have learned a lot from many genres and I can tell what audiences want (not completely but enough from certain things/angles of course) and why the genres went down hill due to some audiences or some devs decisions, some great quotes too. But it is what it is. Some are still going strong others not.

I still play odd modern but retro has the game design I'm looking for, the inspiration I'm looking for, not modern games.

Not even for nostalgia either, even my childhood games I can use as reference but choose not to as I think it clouds things, sure I enjoy some eras or design or characters/other factors I experienced but I still experience it like it's the first time and what it offers besides what devs were going for or fun details modern games may or may not have done, or try to do again but brag about it marketing wise. XD Which is always hilarious to see.

I still keep an Xbox One/PS4 around but they are my least favourite consoles due to library and PS4 I enjoy the OS of. So I like and hate things between modern and retro eras but game design will always be my focus or console gimmicks if the games are that terrible i need a back up element to find appealing.

Switch is fine, not the most amazing but does enough of what I want it to in comparison to the others. Or any other failed consoles I enjoy libraries/ideas from.

With the current trend I feel my PC will not be upgraded for the next maybe 5-10 years, instead jump on services like GeforceNow if I need more power.

And then going for PS6 and the eventual PS6 pro instead for actual local play going forward.

Once the AI trend is slowing down after 5-10 years, I think the pricing for gaming will normalize again.

@SuntannedDuck2 The memories and that you remember the characters after decades now with a lot of games i dont even care that much. I dont know if its the characters themselves the writing i just dont know. Tifa, Cloud, Aeris, Barrett, Sid, Cait Sith, Yuffie, Vincent, Sephiroth. Dont ask me any names of FF15. 😆

@Flaming_Kaiser Agreed I couldn't either. I've never even played FF7 other then the PS Classic a little bit. I still knew the character's names or aspects of them without ever playing it. Couldn't tell you the FF15/Kingsglaive ones.

Some are written better, play better, or were memorable for the flow it offered. Or was a cool mechanic or something.

Playing Rogue Trooper yesterday, it felt like a PS2/3 transition title in all the good ways it was awesome.

But yeah, it depends on the effort put in of the world building, character designs, writing, gameplay, etc. What we in our own ways find sticks out to us. As it differs for each person.

I felt with Infamous Second Son Delsin was more reflected in the side missions then the main story actions, but they had to fit enough of the story beats I guess even if how we see a character in different forms of gameplay can happen then 'insert character to fit our story' besides how they actually would act in our eyes. Not bad but that's just how I saw them besides how I preferred those parts in the game also.

@SuntannedDuck2 The characters are interesting in older games. I even believe that characters like Tifa Lockheart will recognised by non gamers. Cool designs, interesting characters, and just a nice variation of characters.

@Kidfunkadelic83 Im always find it so weird that a thing like this is such a issue but that do i know. 😅

@Flaming_Kaiser a thing like what? Sorry its been a while since ive seen this thread 😂 like you tho, ive never had an overheating issue with my PS5. Even in the 30c weather we've recently had here in the UK.