The PlayStation 5 is a hot commodity right now. It's been in high demand and low supply since its launch in November of last year, with complications caused by COVID-19 making it difficult to produce enough consoles. Unfortunately, Sony doesn't expect things to improve all that much in the foreseeable future.
In a report from Bloomberg, the company commented on the short supply of PS5s, suggesting that it isn't going to get much easier to buy one for a while. Chief Financial Officer Hiroki Totoki reportedly said he doesn't think "demand is calming down this year", and that even if they could produce more consoles in 2022, "our supply wouldnβt be able to catch up with demand". In other words, PS5 stock will probably remain low through next year, due to persistently high demand as well as component shortages.
Totoki adds that the platform holder has sold "more than 100 million units of the PlayStation 4", and that demand for PS5 won't drop easily "considering our market share and reputation".
Unfortunately, PS5's stock shortage isn't a new story; the company has been telling us not to expect much improvement for months now, and it really does sound like it's going to be this way for some time yet. Despite Sony's struggles to manufacture enough PS5s, the console is doing very well for itself, selling 7.8 million units within its first few months β beating out PS4's sales in a similar time frame.
[source bloomberg.com]
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They are still having this problem, yet want to give away their exclusives and had the gall to extend FF7Rβs timed exclusivity. It just gives people more reasons to not get a PS5.
Can honestly see this being one deciding factor in God of War Ragnarok being delayed to 2022, if it hasn't already been delayed internally.
Shame as with Ratchet & Clank coming out soon people will want them more!
It is a great console but the decent exclusives are only coming out now so people have not missed out on much as of yet!
best thing they can do to help is stopping games being made for Vita.... oh wait, er nope. Anyway, at least anyone buying a PS5 next year will have a few discounted new PS5 exclusives ready to play.
@Bad-MuthaAdebisi
Sony won't discount it on psstore
They have not yet Spiderman MM or demonsoul. Even sackboy!
Since they know that not eought people have A ps5
Isn't it always slim pickings in terms of exclusive games this early into a generation? Covid-19 has delayed things too, so people need to respect that a bit more. Plus most PS4 games are boosted on PS5 too or have a standalone PS5 version, so for some people that is enough, along with the exclusives we already have and that are incoming. So I don't get that complaint.
Sad face.
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Suspected as much but it's not good to have it confirmed. For purely selfish reasons I can only hope that Forbidden West will be pushed back to 2022 now. Yes, I'll be able to play it on my PS4 but it would be a lesser experience for sure and I'd rather play it on the better console.
@Col_McCafferty Could you not just pick it up when you get a PS5?
I think the biggest problem in the PS5 at the moment is that it has been handled badly from it's launch start. Whilst this ultimately falls at the hands of Sony the retails and to an extent we consumers will always far outweigh the stock.
Scalpers have not helped though but we must take some comfort that people are starting to get consoles as I have two friends that just got PS5's and the Apple Iphone 12 etc are also facing similar supply shortages.
Far better now to be issuing us such updates so we at least have some info than say nothing at all.
@blinx01
I was thinking the same. The fallout from a delay would be
A - expected because let's face it, nobody took "2021" seriously when it was teased
B - not controversial considering less than 10% of the PS4 population has a PS5.
I just hope HFW comes out this year because I'm getting bored of playing enhanced versions of games I've already played.
Well duh!
Ive been saying that for more than a year and I am a nobody. Crazy demand means shortage. Its that simple.
This will continue until more semiconductors can be made. Literally nothing Sony can do about it. Read recently Apple are losing 3-4 billion $ per quarter due to reduced hardware sales. If they canβt do anything to improve supply, how do people expect Sony to do anything?
@nessisonett No, I've had enough big games spoilt for me in recent years so this was going to be a day one purchase.
If I have to play it on PS4 first then I will albeit reluctantly. If PS5 shortages are going to continue into 2022 then I hope Forbidden West is also delayed.
I feel blessed I was able to score a launch PS5 for $499. But at the same time while the system is fantastic I feel a little let down. Games have been slim pickings and most games releasing are cross gen still and with stock shortages to continue into 2022 I bet most games will still be released cross gen. Guess what I'm trying to say is one I'm ready for a true next gen game that's actually next gen and two not having a PS5 isn't that big of a deal with all the cross gen games coming out. Also the UI on the PS5 is hot garage compared to the PS4 and even the PS3.
Can't believe how lucky I got, getting one at launch.
Have to thank my boss as he secured it! Was meant for him but he knew how tough of a year 2020 was for me, so he extremely generously handed over his allocation.
@Total_Weirdo agreed. I like the PS5 but it's been all cross gen games for me so far! (not complaining though as they run nicer etc)... Ratchet and Clank will be my first purchased PS5 exclusive!
Urgh, how boring π€ππ so the message Sony is giving us now is that they don't want our money, note taken Sony πππ
It's actually baffling that they have stopped production of playstation 4 pros with how dire the situation is with ps5! What do they expect the consumer to buy? A box full of bricks? π
@Atreus97
I highly expect Horizon 2 to be the big fall game for PS5/PS4.
Perhaps an Ultimate Edition for PS5 with the original game enhanced like Spiderman since we didn't get a 60FPS patch? Who knows.
There are also rumors of a Bloodborne remaster from Bluepoint launching for PS5/PC, so that could be a surprise announcement for the E3 period.
Then we still have Deathloop, Ghostwire Tokyo, Stray, Sifu, GTA V next-gen, so I still think we could have a solid end to the year.
@blinx01 Ragnorok was never coming out this year π
@blinx01 they could produce more games for ps5 but who is gonna play them? This will effect them in the long run if this keeps up
@Col_McCafferty I've played Miles Morales on the PS4 & it was fantastic! Glad I didn't wait for the PS5 version & since it's eligible for a free PS5 upgrade I'll replay on the PS5 whenever possible. Besides, the launch of the PS5 doesn't make my slim PS4 obsolete overnight. It still packs a punch!
Yeah I'm getting closer to just giving up at this point. Which sucks b/c 2 months ago I bought a 75" 4k HDR+ TV so I had something to hook up my PS5 too when I got one for Ratchet & Clank. Previous tv was 52" 1080p non-HDR. I got the tv early b/c I couldn't lay out over $1,500 at 1 time. Really thought Sony might be stockpiling PS5 on the low down for a big R&C weekend of consoles at every store. But no reason to, if they even could.
And if you read the article Sony really makes it sound like 2023, not 2022, before you can just walk into a store and buy 1. I'm not paying scalper prices. That's a long way out, both my kids will be away at college that fall, and don't think I can justify a $500 PS5 in the house just for myself. At least we watch a lot of sports and movies on the big screen TV.
Maybe I'll buy a PS4 Pro? π€·ββοΈ
Nope, Sony cut that too, to force us to the PS5 I guess. Nice move Sony. Not.
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2021/01/ps4_console_production_reduced_to_just_one_model_in_japan
@sqxrz I have Miles and ideally I was going to wait until I have a PS5 before playing it but that's out the window now.
HFW is something different though, playing it on a base PS4 will still be enjoyable but I'll definitely be casting envious glances at those that get to experience it on the new console.
So yeah, I'm hoping HFW is delayed until 2022 but maybe even then I still will be struggling on my wheezing PS4 by the time it is released.
Lots of games are being put on hold until I get a PS5, it's getting to the stage when I'm not sure it's even worth buying new games for my old console, Resi 8 being a good example of this. Maybe Mass Effect and Kena I'll get on PS4 but that's probably it. I don't blame Sony, it's just circumstances out of their control, but this is definitely bad news!
"the console is doing very well for itself, selling 7.8 million units within its first few months β beating out PS4's sales in a similar time frame."
Has anybody done the math on this by looking at different countries? PS4 launched in most countries in Nov but not in Japan until the following February. I think PS5 was more simultaneous worldwide. So, if you add the first few months in Japan TO the rest of the world, for PS4 did it perhaps do more than the PS5's first few months in the Japan and the rest of the world?
Just wondering, I know it doesn't really matter, but I always thought the PS4 delay in Japan was odd.
@huyi Iβm assuming that, since itβs a global semiconductor shortage thatβs affecting supply, continuing to produce old consoles would leave even fewer parts available for PS5...
@rjejr i know it's so stupid of Sony to cut production of the PS4 pro with this current situation, not sure what they were thinking with that move.
@Marquez but also leaves the consumer in a horrible position if they wanted to buy Sony consoles, no pro, no ps5, only a slim is available currently for most regions
@huyi As has been pointed out it's not a case of stupidity, just a real shortage of manufacturing capacity. Making PS4 Pros would take capacity needed to make chips for the PS5, so would make it worse.
Same problem with PC graphics cards, very hard to find at the moment. Sucks if you want a PS5 or PC graphics card for the next 6-12 months.
I'm just going to disassemble my old PS2 and PS3 and make my own PS5.
I was blessed and actually got the Sony email. I have been happily playing mine since launch. Absolutely love it
@huyi Agree, but it feels like itβs unavoidable given the global nature of this common part shortage. I was lucky enough to get the console on launch day but I have been looking for one for a friend for months and no joy - itβs not great.
@Col_McCafferty even the difference between playing Zero Dawn on the base 4 and Pro is fairly noticeable so I can only imagine the gulf between Forbidden West's PS4 and PS5 editions. So I totally hear you.
I'll buy it for my Pro if I absolutely have to but I certainly won't be real happy about it.
If they won't make it widely available for retail till 2022 I think I'll pass. I already don't start up my ps4 anymore cause the noise it makes is killing any fun I'd have playing games. I fear I will lose interest in gaming before they are sold in stores normally.
Still waiting for a must-have exclusive to PS5 only title worth the Β£450 so the lack of stock really doesn't affect me.
As things stand, the internal SSD equipped Pro is doing everything just fine...
Just thinking aloud, I suppose at this point, if I'd not been lucky enough to get a PS5, I might have got a second-hand pro. Prices on eBay not bad at the moment, especially for just the console, and would still have some re-sale value later.
For those who went from original PS4 to pro, was there that much difference?
@ApostateMage
Can't you just stack them?
CoVid + Shipping/ Transportation issues + Silicon chip shortages + massive demand = delays.
I am happy with my PS4 Pro + massive backlog
@SJBUK I'm not sure the difference is worth paying retail price for a used console, which is what they seemed to be going for when I was recently searching for one.
I have one already to be clear. I just needed a replacement for my son's base PS4, and while I really like my Pro and appreciate the small upgrade, I wasn't about to spend $400+ on a used system. I don't love my kids that much lol.
Er how many people are not getting it's not Sony fault ffs! TSMC are soooooooo over saturated from every angle!! That's where the problem lies! Scalpers exist because of the massive shortage and idiots still paying double retail! So many saying it's Sony's fault won't change a damn thing!!! You think they have 10mill PS5s just sitting in a warehouse? just stfu and gtfo!
@CrushALL Indeed! As if Sony can somehow magic millions of processors out of thin air.
Even the likes of Samsung, who make most of their own chips, are struggling with the current supply/demand situation.
@zupertramp Absolutely, wouldn't pay near retail. I'm in the UK and can see some for Β£180-Β£200. Wondered if, at that price, would be worth it. Should be able to get at least half that back on re-sale when PS5's are more available.
Guess it's a good thing that I dont feel the need for one right now then. Im honestly cool with waiting till 2023 or beyond this generation. Just dont feel the urge to buy one fast like previous generations. Dont think that will come till I see the games come that looked like that Unreal Engine 5 demo from last year.
Not surprised by this. I do want a PS5 but I can definitely wait. When it comes, it comes. And I still wonβt buy from scalpers.
Sony's estimate of stock shortage ending sounds a lot more realistic than Microsoft's estimate of June 2021.
@huyi "cut production of the PS4 pro"
I guess they were thinking - Nobody is buying a Pro instead of a PS5 - but I don't think they fully understood the supply-demand equation.
I mean honestly I probably wasn't going to buy a PS4 Pro, certainly not for $400, but I'd rather buy a Pro for say $250 than a Slim for $200. Sony should have dropped the Slim, lowered the price on the Pro.
Or maybe it's all just a pandemic induced mess, can't rule that out.
I still can't understand why I would want to buy a ps 5 right now... To play what?
I bought mine 2 weeks ago from a scalper (that'a right, sue me) and I only overpaid about $60 for it compared with the MSRP (in Poland). That's still way cheaper than the bundles they are offering the PS5 with most of the time. I'm very happy with the console and the purchase (bought the all digital version).
@gollumb82
That's awesome. The only thing that matters is that your happy with it.
Enjoy π
@SJBUK ah well then at that price yeah I'd probably grab one. just being able to prioritize frame rate on some games or resolution on others makes it a worthwhile investment, especially on a good TV.
@JJ2
Thanks! Appreciate it. I do wish everyone that wants a PS5 will be able to get their hands on one. It's a stylish-looking console (yes, I was skeptical until I saw it with my own eyes) and works flawlessly. It's practically silent when gaming, which has been a joy to experience after what felt like living close to an airport when I had my PS4 PRO.
@CrushALL fault is kind of irrelevant. They plunged ahead with the release of a next-gen console in the middle of a pandemic that had already proven it was going to cause across-the-board disruptions in commerce. So sure, they may not be to blame but at the end of the day they can't supply one of their flagship products. And that's definitely a problem that's uniquely theirs to fix (or not).
So glad I got mine on day one. It really gave me a new enthusiasm for games old and new. I've not been gaming so much for year's.
@OMG_Waffles Couldnβt disagree more I have been beyond ecstatic with ps5 I could never go back to PS4 pro. Being able to play miles morales demon souls in 60fps the controller is soooo much better especially the haptic feedback Iβm returnal is incredible. Also being able to play cod black ops in 120 fps the virtual non existent load times it has felt next generation so many times I use it. Maybe itβs because I have a 77 inch LG CX so I can take advantage of all it can offer but I literally feel next gen almost every time I use it and have been beyond happy with exclusives.
I'm curious what this means for this generation. It looks like the generation isn't really going to begin until 2 years into the generation. I can't see them just ending the gen in the usual 7 years if it never even fulfilled it's install base until year 3. Or, I can see them just moving on to newer tech in 5 years with a "mid gen" or "iterative" hardware model and just kind of end the 9th gen hardware as a short lived anomalous generation.
I'm just really excited to pick up a PS6 with PS5 backward compatibility at this point.
@huyi Given the butterfly design of a pro they can produce 2 slims for every 1 pro. Given everything is selling out and they make most of their money on the games. It makes more sense to make slims at the current time rather than pros.
@nessisonett *if they get a PS5
@Yfs11six
I'm playing on a 48 inch 1080p TV still. This summer I'll be getting a 70 inch Samsung 4K for the living room. Im sure I'll notice a huge jump in quality after this.
@OMG_Waffles Gotcha that makes sense.
Just had a look on Amazon out of curiosity and there were 2 PS5's, one for Β£899 and another for Β£949. Both gone by the time I refreshed the page. People are astoundingly dumb.
@OMG_Waffles I get your point and agree the PS5 is not essential right now. But it's great if you can get one.
I think many people seem to have short memories and unrealistic expectations for a new console in it's first year nowadays. For comparison here is the PS4's first year reviewed.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-11-15-who-needs-games-playstation-4s-first-year
Cross-gen releases are pretty normal for consoles in year 1-2+ nowadays, and the first year is usually pretty dry of great exclusive releases (Switch was an exception). The fact there is already Demon's Souls, Returnal - two absolute bangers - with Ratchet to come in a month, that's more high quality first party content that PS4 got in the same first 6+ month timeframe. It's simply not reasonable to expect much more. This has always been the price of early console adoption.
Regardless the improvements to backwards compatibility, not just playing the last gen games, but playing better versions, the DualSense and sweet load times (cannot be understated) make it a worthwhile purchase, and difficult to go back.
@themightyant
Fair points man. I guess I'm looking back through rose colored lens of nostalgia from the PS4 glory days. Don't get me wrong the PS5 is a beast the SSD alone is a game changer. The DuelSence controller is the best Sony has ever put out and the system doesn't sound like a jet taking off playing games! I guess I'm being impatient. The PS5 is still in it's infancy but it seems longer for some reason. Possibly because of having to shelter in place due to covid-19 and doing nothing but gaming in my free time.
If I could change anything it would be the system UI tho. Hate that we have to press the PS button from the main UI and have to go through multiple menus just to access your friends list. Hopefully Sony updates this and let's us customize the UI and bring back folders! For all the steps forward the PS5 has taken I feel it's taken a massive step backwards with the system UI. Anyhow cheers mate!
@OMG_Waffles It's FAR too easy to look back with rose tinted glasses, particularly after the end of an incredible generation like PS4. But honestly I think this is normal nowadays when games take so long, and so much money, to make. PS2's first year was similar a bit dry too.
I completely agree COVID isn't helping with this, nothing else to do but game
UI is completely subjective. But I actually love it's minimalism, general ease of use and speed. It got rid of loads of half thought ideas from the PS4. That's not to say it's perfect, it isn't by a long shot, but it's a solid start and has made some improvements since launch. I'm also hoping for:
While I wanted folders at first, I was also a little obsessive on the PS4 and have come round to NOT having them. Now I just play games rather than managing folders. Also as a UI designer I think they would be difficult to implement given the PS5's new clean user interface that focus' on beautiful game art and elegant transitions... which I'm a fan on. Again I'm aware this is subjective and like Marmite!
@themightyant
Vertical trophy list must come back! 100% agreed!
I've just checked my PS4 pro library and I have a backlog of approx 180 games that I haven't even ever downloaded let alone played.
This delay is quite possibly a blessing in disguise π€
@Cambrius The advent of digital games subscription services with PS+ in 2010 and their subsequent ubiquity across platforms means many of us literally have hundreds, or thousands of games we will never play.
I play cross platform and (using GoG Galaxy) realised I have over 2000+ games redeemed across consoles and PC storefronts (that's not even including the 1000+ game Humble Covid bundle I have hardly redeemed!)
I though COVID lockdown might help make a dent, but the backlog has just got inevitably bigger.
For a while this was a bit of a depressing insurmountable prospect, but over time i've just accepted that there will always be hundreds of games I'll never play, it will be ever expanding, and to just concentrate on what I want to play next. And I do sometimes get the nice surprise on checking GoG that I already have a game a want!
Sucks but understandable.
Thankfully no major Ps5 exclusive has come out that is a must have for me yet.
Fingers crossed for Holiday 2021
@themightyant
Oh I know. If I add the backlog on Steam, GoG, Origin, Epic and whatever the Ubisoft one is called I basically don't have enough years left to play them all already π
One change I have made to try to improve matters is not feeling like I have to finish games I do start. If I'm not enjoying it after an hour or two it gets deleted, no guilt. Life is literally too short.
@Jacko11
According to Sony it is/was when they showed us that teaser. LOL
I don't think anyone realistically expects it to come out now when stuff like GT7 has already been delayed.
@Cambrius "If I'm not enjoying it after an hour or two it gets deleted, no guilt. Life is literally too short."
Ah! then you are ahead of me there then, I still struggle with this. Between that, and putting FAR too many hours into grinding the same games for achievements or dailies I STILL haven't got round to games like Ghost of Tsushima, LoU2 and more despite owning them.
I was really luck to get my launch PlayStation 5, hopefully for my not as lucky friends the restocking issue will be resolved by November...
Decided to google PS5 stock , and a couple sources like this is saying the same thing. lol.. just lol. what a joke . I'd be happy if devs forget about 9th gen and just continue making games for the PS4 and pushing its untapped potential . I heard they never even fully utilized the PS3's potential too .
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