Spider-Man Creative Director Calls for Respect as PS5 Remaster Criticism Crosses the Line

To be fair I've watched the side by side pro vs ps5 4k videos and I really dont see what the fuss is about, apart from changing the face to a 12 year old it's pretty much the same. If the only reason to pay for this ***** remaster is this new kid you can stick it

@get2sammyb I know how you feel. A certain section of gamers are so toxic and entitled. The Spiderman face issue is so unbelievably petty. Gives us all a bad name.

My biggest hope is that the law continues to catch up with online behaviour like death threats and abuse.
I have no desire to see the internet regulated but when people commit hate crimes hiding behind the safety of anonymity, they must be held accountable.
Suicides due to online harassment is a relatively new thing and the problem hasn’t been addressed in any meaningful way.
If governments can already trace encrypted proxy servers to locate terrorists, the tech must be available for law enforcement to find and prosecute these awful people. They do way more damage than we are aware of yet.

Ya know maybe the face isn't that bad, all things considered.

Someone tell Liam Neeson to get off Twitter. Taken 4 is just him hunting down the dudes responsible for changing Peter Parker’s face.

Social media was a mistake.

This is just as ridiculous as the abuse hurled towards the people involved with the production of The Last of Us: Part II. These are FICTIONAL characters that other people created, and they have the right to do whatever they want with them.

It's fine to criticize choices in game design, but ultimately, the people making these games are doing way more with their lives than these miserable toddlers ever will.

I mean there are people actually waking up each morning with nothing else on their mind but how to keep hating Druckmann because of HIS STORY. It's this outrage internet culture turning some people into awful toxic beings.

@nessisonett the new Peter model probably kidnapped his daughter

I get people associate a voice with a face but the new one is more expressive. Its still yuri voicing spiderman, its still the same great gameplay so why the threats?

@RBMango nah, every facet of the internet has loads of positivity if you look for it.
The ***** who shout the loudest just skew everyone’s perception.

@KirbyTheVampire it’s incredibly sad and disheartening. Pays to remember these idiots are in the minority and most likely are lonely and self-loathing or don’t understand how to interpret their emotions without lashing out in anger. It’s infantile to the extreme. I would make an educated guess that they are all young men or older very immature men. Much like most of the hate groups around.

@TheArt There's a whole sub-Reddit dedicated to hating on TLOU Part II. It's truly pathetic. It's an incredible game, but even if it wasn't, the response to it has been a complete travesty, and a stain on gaming as a whole.

@Arnna Let me guess, many of those boys are proud?

@Arnna The fact that most of them are a good deal older than like, 12, which is about the age where such a response wouldn't be super unusual, is what's really sad. But like you said, at least they're the minority. Although the massive review-bombing that TLOU part II received by people who didn't even play the game makes me think that it isn't as small of a minority as I'd like.

@nessisonett well it’s right there in the name 😏

Some people are idiots.real ***** sending people threat .nothing but a studio gansta acting tough.word up son

@KirbyTheVampire at least you know where at least some of the d-bags are now!

Isn't there a reset button for humanity? I mean we have something called the internet which wasn't even imaginable in science fiction 50 years ago and people use it just to do the most evil things things (phishing, theft, insults, threats, EA, Apple, etc.)

@KirbyTheVampire yeah too many for sure. I guess with a game that sold that many copies, the number of toxic idiots will be higher too.
Plus Metacritic is so broken and filled with garbage I suspect that these people are the vast majority of thats sites users. Best to avoid! I remember when Dark Souls 3 came out and the GameFaqs board was incredibly toxic.
Much more toxic than the boards for DS 1 or 2. It calmed down when the trolls went away and now is a very supportive community.

There's always bad apples in the world. Internet just gives them a bigger voice.

@KirbyTheVampire I joined TLOUII sub to see if I'd see some interesting things but no it's been Druckmann hating morning, afternoon, evening. However I think we forget there's a new generation of internet kids who are accustomed to doing this. It's easy to think everyone is your age when interacting on the internet.

@TheArt sometimes you can tell. Really young kids need to be educated on what’s appropriate just like we all did growing up.
The grown men who behave like children are the real issue. There is no excuse.
I explained to a young kid yesterday why using ‘gay’ as a pejorative is not acceptable. I did it in a calm way without being aggressive and he said he understood and apologised. We can all make small differences to mitigate some of the hate.

People are getting that upset because of a face change? Seriously? I'm upset but I'm not gonna go and threaten them over it, what the hell is wrong with these people?

And now it will sell boat loads like TLOU2. Vocal minority.

These green up cry babies are super trash

@TheArt It’s actually the opposite of kids doing this stuff. The vast majority of ones annoyed about TLOU2 and general morons are in their late 20s. As much as places like TikTok are bloody annoying, the vibe is way more positive than your bargain bin subreddit and they’re a lot more accepting. Kids are way more savvy with the internet than they’re given credit for, just look at when the K-Pop fans booked all the tickets for Trump’s rally. The ones harassing Insomniac are generic sweaty nerds who wasted away their college years and now like to take it out on anyone who dares threaten their true gamer sensibilities.

Wow. I understand the verbal vitriol. But don't threaten violence. You definitely come across as unstable.

@Arnna @nessisonett I feel the internet really need to up moderation. It's probably hard work but it's possible.

People really have no life. 95% of the game the face is hidden behind a mask. TBH after playing Spider-Man I instantly forgot what his face even looked like.

On one hand I am all about privacy, but on the other hand, some parts of the internet should have some kind of way to be treated the same way as a "public space". Like when somebody IRL walks up to you and says something like that, then he is not as anonymous as he would be on the internet.

Maybe some kind of setting in terms of private messaging (e.g. on twitter) where you can set that only people who are verified and non-anonymous can message you directly. That could deter a lot of people already from writing stuff like that.

People can suck. If you're one of the people doing these type of things, you suck. Hard stop.

@nessisonett

Still sounds better than Taken 2 and 3.

Imagine being this bitter over a model of a video game character being replaced. Couldn't be me.
I'd say I'm surprised at how entitled gamers(tm) are but honestly this isn't really anything new is it?

People being *****? Never seen that...

Twitter needs one big overhaul.

There are a lot of things to get upset about in this world, a lot of things that deserve passionate calls for change, a lot of things that should concern a person to keep them up at night tying to solve ...and the Spider-Man Remaster is definitely not one of them.

On behalf of the majority of rational gamers out here, we’re sorry Mr. Intihar, please don’t think we are all as senseless and inane as these vocal few.

https://twitter.com/wlsalyers/status/1311937796920143872?s=19

This is why they never shouldve released the raimi suit it gave these people validation to be toxic

@JJ2 I had no idea Doc Ock was played by the guy who played Rigby in Regular Show!

@Drod Sorry but that was just a really dumb comment.

@Kurusu You would care if for example in Persona 5 Royal they had changed the original face of joker to a 12 year old Yajirobe 😁

As for Spider-Man I hate the new face as much as all of them but that wouldn't mean I would go on a rampage. I won't support it and I will just buy Miles, this is getting old already they should move on.

I say it again: usa gamers are the worst 😕, yeah I know they're not the majority, most gamers just say "huh, that's weird, why the face different" and move on.

After seeing spidey remastered trailers a couple of times, I think I already get used to that face 😃

@Arnna What you says on twitter should be accountable the same as what you says in real life, if people can get sued if they threatening people in real life, they should be able to get sued in twitter if they're threatening others people.

It cracks me up that people are complaining that the new Peter looks too young. Well, Peter is supposed to be 23 in the game, he looks about the same age as Tom Holland, and Tom Holland is 24. So, basically, Insomniac is dead on. Hahaha! 😂

I'm not sure where I stand on publicly shaming people with mental issues. Tweeting out received threats of this kind won't stop them because the people making them can't be reasoned with. Making them criminals won't solve anything either, they need help, not a prison sentence.

I'm not saying i have an answer, but telling everyone else not to make death threats over artistic decisions is a bit like putting anti piracy ads at the beginning of an official, paid for product. However, I also recognise that it must be highly upsetting to receive messages of this nature. It's a complex problem that I'm not sure will ever be resolved, not by punishment anyway.

@Old-Red may I ask what makes you think mental illness is a factor here? I help people with neurological disorders; autism, Asperger's, schizophrenia, etc. But none of them would utter death threats as they know it's wrong (well, the schizophrenia might be a little different, but that's entirely another matter). Could it be that these people are just c***ts? Claiming to have a disorder sounds like an easy way out.

@Old-Red The majority of these people are just horrible. But even if a few of them do in fact have some sort of disorder, it's not an excuse for this sort of behavior.

Erm, can I make a suggestion to anybody with a platform online? IGNORE THE TINY, INSIGNIFICANT MINORITY OF PEOPLE WHO BRING NEGATIVITY YOUR WAY.
They are likely:
a) Children
b) Suffering from mental issues
c) Immature adults looking for a rise because it's 'funny'
d) Lonely, unhappy people looking for any form of attention

This non-event is online discourse exemplified over the last ten years, and I put blame entirely on the media and people with platforms; narcissists focusing on the one negative comment on their YouTube videos, choosing to ignore the overwhelming positivity. News media utilising any negativity to push their agenda.

Your world-view has been irrevocably influenced by such a small number of the population, with a viewpoint that in no way represents the majority! Yet you take that minority view as fact i.e. gamers are all entitled man-babies, all white people are racist, all men are sexist, everyone is homophobic - the list goes on and on.

Yes, some of those people exist, but why give them time of day? Receiving threats online? You absolutely shouldn't have to deal with that, but these threats are empty attempts at trying to get your attention. Don't give in to that.

Ah, rant over. Another tedious exercise in the proverbial 'p*ssing in the wind.' Just ask yourself this:
Do you truly believe that the number of people genuinely 'upset' by this innocuous turn of events, warrants the amount of coverage it is currently receiving? Now who do you believe the onus is on to change that for future non-events?

@TheIdleCritic there’s always gonna be a section of the population with more severe mental illness, but I agree it’s not a majority and certainly not an excuse for the sheer scale of poor behaviour we see.
I think that there are probably a lot of undiagnosed personality disorders out there judging by what people write sometimes.
But I reckon the vast majority of the time these people are just douche bags who don’t understand their emotions or wanting to hurt others because they are unhappy themselves. It’s not too different from schoolyard bullies.
Personally I try not to engage with these creeps because when I can’t help it and give someone a serve online it usually only makes me feel worse in the long run. It’s hard to resist sometimes.

@B_Lindz its even funnier when the previous actor on ps4 was 23 and the new actor on ps5 is 26

@TheArt Such a valid point.... That's one of the worst problems with the internet is it gives children (and I'm including college kids here.... According to the us government and my own observation, it's the same thing ) and equal voice with experienced adults, and that's a problem. Then again, i don't know if we want to know how many of the worst offenders are indeed experienced adults. We may prefer the ramblings of you foul mouthed CoD 8 year olds lol

@Arnna I agree that it's not a blanket rule and there will be exceptions no matter the situation. It's undeniably a minority in that "crowd" with genuine disorders, and that in turn must be dealt with separately. The majority.... tits. I also echo your sentiment entirely. Coming out the other side of a debate with them does make you feel worse. However I've found that once that's happened to you it's much easier to avoid them. I don't spend nearly as much time on the internet (except for work) than I used to. I'm much healthier mentally because of that. I just feel for devs who seemingly need to have an online presence and see this crap daily.

@RBMango I don’t blame the dude who invented the automobile whenever there’s a car accident. Social media just created a new set of problems that humans haven’t quite figured out how to surpass yet. It can be a force for good in the right hands, same as it can be used for some extremely shady stuff in the hands of those who wish to exploit and swindle.

I highly doubt that it is the Playstation fans who were threatening the developers. The criticism that Naughty Dog received were mostly from anti-SJWs and Xbox fans which is the same thing with Craig/Halo Infinite. It is always the antis from the start who are ready to jump into the hate bandwagon.

Just let the dogs bark that’s how they feel better this is reality that’s how some people are and I’m not saying that what they are doing it’s good but what can you do to make this kind of people to stop

People like this need to get a grip of themselves.🤣

Gamers are some of the most toxic incel trash in the history of humans

C'mon, guys. Sitting behind a keyboard, threatening people is 1) not cool and 2) it's ILLEGAL! With everything going on in the world at the moment, don't you think there are more important things to be concerned about. If you don't like it, fine - "don't buy it" but don't go around making stupid and I'll say it again "ILLEGAL" threats to peoples lives, that let's be honest, are completely hollow anyway. If you don't like the product, speak with your wallet, not your words.

People with too much time on their hands 🙄 If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.
Did anyone consider the original actor maybe had other commitments and the new Peter will be carried forward into Spiderman 2?

Why would you even give attention to those type of messages

@RBMango
More like antisocial. But yeah, so much this.

More evidence that many gamers have serious mental issues. An absolute embarrassment.

@GKO900 you can arrest them, because threatening one's life is illegal. Then we'll see how often others will feel comfortable doing the same.

@TheIdleCritic no one is just a c**t. They act that way because of certain issues. Most (imo) because they're unhappy with their life (parents didn't show affection, they're overweight and feel bad about it, they can't get a girlfriend, etc). I haven't met many horrible people who were also happy overall, but I could be wrong. If there's a study on it, I'd love to read it.

This is what I was saying the other day, large parts of the gaming community are pathetic at the moment. The amount of moaning I've seen over this remaster, which they also say they don't want to buy anyway is ridiculous, or that Demon Souls isn't 4K60FPS but had to be told it wasn't in the first place.

If these things upset you so much, consider another hobby and certainly don't go around attacking the developers

Jesus christ the people who are sending that are pathetic. Its a game for christ sake.

People who moan and whine about these kind of things really need to grow up and give their head a wobble 🙄

@Deljo
Clearly that’s not the only reason. The performance is vastly improved, 60fps, no loading times, and there is also a mode with better graphics which is yet to be shown. I do appreciate that it is hard to feel the benefits of a performance mode in a video, but a little research would be a good thing,
Also, PP is supposed to look like a nerdy kid, so I consider the new model far more appropriate.

@jess3a3
No, gamers are a pretty large and average section of society. Believe me, there are far more intolerant communities, such as the online activist brigade. This was one person at least, not an organised collective with an internet reinforced echo chamber.

@TheIdleCritic I'm not an expert which is why I avoided terms like 'illness' or 'disorder'. However, if someone feels so strongly about a change or decision in a video game that they're are inclined to threaten someone over it, I think there is a problem where this person fails to grasp the insignificance of what is upsetting them or the seriousness of their actions.

@KirbyTheVampire My main point was focusing on resolving the problem and that turning death threats into public articles and saying it's wrong is preaching to the converted and will most likely fall on deaf ears.

Threatening a dev isn’t cool, it’s just a game after all. I can still think that people like Druckmann are awful though.

Wow. Just wow. And i thought we had reached peak patheticness with the discourse surrounding TLOU2. So many sad individuals out there that really need to get a grip

@naruball i wouldn't be surprised if sad individuals like this will eventually lead to the introduction of some form of online passport/identification scheme. Even if its just for social media.

Its become abundantly clear that losers like this cannot be trusted and delight in being able to spread hate and toxicity behind the anonymity of a keyboard. The impact they are having on people's mental health is absolutely criminal and its just a matter of time before something monumental is going to have be introduced to stop this kind of thing continuing. It has to stop.

I've always overlooked the concerns about Social Media, but in the last couple of years, i've really come to see how awful pockets of the human race can really be.

I haven't posted anything in ages but I'd just like to say that the new face is indeed crap and a monumentally foolish design choice. I'd say I feel bad for insulting the guy's face but if you could see my ugly mug you'd understand. Yes, death threats are stupid, but so are people. Something so high profile like this and tlou 2 it's bound to happen. Always has. We have some stupid soap opera called eastenders here in the UK right? Yeh, well in real life in the 90s people were going up to the actors in the street and hurling real death threats to their face. Yes, Internet hate is dumb but it's nothing new. It's just carried over from the real world. Don't worry though; most people don't give a damn.

@Arnna I'm not sure if this type of threat is classified as a "hate crime" those tend to need to be racial or sexual orientation etc related to be called one..
A threat of harm? sure. bad? yes! a hate crime? I don't think you can compare this to the type of terrible a real "hate crime" entails.

Just chill everyone

I will say it again! you only see Peter Parker in cut scenes and tiny bits of brief gameplay and the major part of the game you don't see his face!

We should be grateful how much effort the developers are putting into this upgrade.

Personally I think it looks more natural.
Also. It's their game they can do what they want to it... And another thing! .. It spends most of the game under a bloody mask!

People who threating like this are nothing but idiots who need to stop, for all we know that face may have been the original from the very beginning. But maybe the PS4 couldn't handle it we don't know but to send absusive messages it a joke

@Old-Red
I agree with you in a way. Yes they must be deranged to make such threats. It's too easy to play virtue signalling like some people do whereas they were part of the problem with all the whining in the first place, overreacting and exacerbating the internet response.
Yes it s a bit useless to tell those crazy people that they are crazy BUT it put people back to reality and hopefully to realise that all the overreaction and whining was really unecessary to start with.

People sent that threat over a change in face and not the upgrade fiasco? I don’t get this world, their are some strange people in it.. firstly sending threats like that but secondly over a game characters face?

Can't stand the gaming community these days.
The No man's sky backlash was the start of it for me (I'm sure there was more before then) where a small hard working developer were getting death threats over a game, then you've got things like this and the recent TLOU2 insanity.
Some people just really need to grow up.
There's enough nastiness in the world, stop adding to it just because of a piece of entertainment.

@RBMango Antisocial media.

It's a good thing Parker isn't a girl or person of colour or this would be a totally different story.

@naruball I understand where you're coming from, but the examples you give for being a ****, I believe, are exactly that - a person just a **** and not a more deeper seated issue. Before I met my wife, I only had one non serious girlfriend, I used to be chubby but then I joined a gym, my mother left when I was young and I've never known my father, etc, but I've always tried to be a good person. (True examples but I won't give any more as this is a random site on the internet, not a support group lol). None of that equates to a mental illness.

I used to work in luxury retail. Trust me, there are some horrible/happy people out there lol.

@Old-Red Now I understand what you mean. It's a shame there's no real term for it. I think to say "mental illness" further stigmatises disorders people have.
It's more serious than being socially inept... It's more like... being an ****hole but on a clinical level... like kleptomania but for being a ****.

EDIT: I suppose mentally ill really is the best term to describe it, for now. As you say, there's something not quite right going on in their heads.

@naruball unfortunatley some people are just *****...plain and simple because they can be..i know a fair few (some of them i considered friends) untill the mask slipped and there they were in all their ***** glory..human nature is a flawed beast and it would be awesome to think we could understand and reason with these people but some just dont want to be nice...

@Bliquid it's one thing to act stupid and another to threaten someone's life. There have been too many incidents where celebrities were harassed in real life or even killed, so you never know.

@Northern_munkey I get that, I'm just saying that there's always a reason behind it. No one is born a ****

@Rob_230 you're absolutely right. It's a matter of time until laws catch up with such behaviour and actions, but it will definitely happen considering the impact it has on certain people.

@PhhhCough
I dont think toxic language is understandable either, if you dislike something there are constructive ways of expressing that instead of being aggressive or unpleasant about it.

In my view, it's not just the threats of violence that are unacceptable, it's the general lack of courtesy and consideration for others that is a problem too.

This is hilarious. If it was changed to a black trans person, I could just about get on board with uproar about radical changes but this? This is hilarious.

Oh jeeez... hunt him down? Hmm...that would force them to get up and move around. The exercise would probably do them good

When will we as human beings learn that this is just plain wrong? Shame on you to go down to this level. Unfortunately I don't see this being the last we hear of something like this.

Surely it was just a troll?

I think this face change us terrible, but threatening the guy is to far.

@DualshockInfinit Aha! I thought I recognized you in the mo-cap.

@HazyDave Damn cover blown!

@nessisonett That's good insight into the situation. I think that teens on the internet are more about change for positivity. The hate comes from an older, miserable group that has nothing good to offer the world.

This is just the dumbest controversy yet. Anyone sending abuse and threats over it needs their parents to turn off their internet.

I've been gaming for 40+ years, since the late 70s. Through all the nonsense in the past about gamers being nerds, spotty teenagers, living in mum's basement, having no girlfriends, etc. I've never been embarrassed to tell people that I'm a gamer.

This last 2 or 3 years, though... that's starting to change. Some people are an absolute fecking embarrassment. A hobby which was once great fun, even with the 'tribal' rivalries of format wars (which go back to the C64/Spectrum days) were light-hearted. Barely a week goes by now without someone being "outraged" or "offended" about something completely insignificant.

Once again, as with so many of the (non) issues plaguing the world today, social media is usually at the centre of it, allowing the rants of morons to find traction when in the past they'd have been laughed at and forgotten. The faceless keyboard warriors, wastes of skin and oxygen, desperate for likes and clicks of approval from their idiot followers to make them feel like they somehow matter in the grand scheme of things.

@Lovespuds my apologies, I'm old. When I say "verbal vitriol" I mean terms likes "fcuk this guy" or "this sucks for gamers, fcuk this company" etc. Telling someone to kill themselves or hate speech, and the likes, definitely doesn't have a place in society. But I could say "that's fcuking dumb" without someone taking TOO much offense.

The original model had character. This remaster? Looks like a generic NPC.

I'm not saying he's lying but are we just suppose to take his word for it? Where is the screenshot?

@get2sammyb Agreed, I obviously would never sent threatening messages although I dont see this trend being any worse in 2020 than its ever been. As long as the internet's been around there have been idiots who for whatever reason feel they can say whatever they want online and while I dont condone it I dont see why anyone should get particularly upset by it. I very much doubt this developers life is in danger unless he changes back the spiderman actor...
As for the game, I was just surprised by how little it has changed visually considering the hype I'm reading about the work that has went into it that justify the price tag. 60fps and ray tracing is nice and all but really?

@Deljo obviously you didn't read the article because it's about changing actors.

Now, to address your inane criticism. Here's a list of what's changed in the $20 Spiderman Remaster that includes all DLC.

Spiderman Remaster

New assets
New character model
New hair/teeth/skin
Ray Tracing
New Spiderman suits
1:1 reflections
60fps
Ambient shadows
More NPCs
More vehicles
Better draw distance
All DLC
New facial animations
Native 4K
Instant loads
Haptic feedback
New photo mode
3D audio implementation

Not sure what else Insomniac could do, plus, it was a beautiful game just two years ago, it's not like we are comparing a remake of a decade old game like Demon's Souls. Furthermore, most of this will be hard to appreciate in a compressed 720-1080p video on Twitter. Natively I'm sure that Spiderman Remastered will look incredible on PS5. It's essentially getting the Spiderman 2 treatment. A glimpse of the sequel.

@DualshockInfinit the new face looks better. The realism and animation is superior. That's what I care about. This is built on superior technology. It should be applauded and evidence as to how much work was put into this REMASTER.

Respect from the Internet??? NO CHANCE!!! People just want everything for free nowadays :-/

@iamtylerdurden1? I referenced the change of actor in my response... as for your list of improvements, you're clearly easily impressed but hey glad your happy 😁

How can you expect civility online in an era when the left encourages physically assaulting strangers they disagree with?

@Bliquid actually there was a case here in the u.k that made news headlines when a 40 something adult tracked down a teenage lad that lived nearby after said lad had trolled him most of the day on call of duty and gave the lad a damn good hiding on his doorstep..i cant condone such action but i must admit i chuckled when i read it as the times i've wanted to strangle some little ***** are too many to list..so it does happen although i admit it is not in the same context as this thread but its an example of when humanity loses its *****..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2052967/Man-tracked-throttled-13-year-old-Call-Duty-game-avoids-prison.html

@iamtylerdurden1
"Not sure what else Insomniac could do..."
They could, er, not. Just sayin'. I get that you're - what do the kids call it these days, "stanning," I think? - pretty hard over this remaster, and that's your prerogative, but when an inordinate amount of effort results in a negligible impact, as it seems to have for a lot of people, it could be argued that it might've been better not to have wasted the effort in the first place.

In other words, there're too many versions of too many games out there competing for people's attention as it is; a paid remaster of a game that's just two years old is just too damn soon, no matter how much you think you can shine it up.

I have always felt that there is a very vocal minority on social media who seem to grab everyone's attention by yelling louder than every one else. They threaten and they harangue. They are just jerks. This, for some reason, also seems to work. Game developers seemingly react with unnecessary changes due to these loud voices.

Meanwhile the 98% of the rest of us enjoy the games, enjoy the screenshots, and wait on pins and needles for the game to actually release.

@orionreplay Kind of like the current US presidency....

@Arnna The issue is not “gamers”, its just plain old sh*tty people. Any large community will have them.

@Arugula never changes

John 3:6-7 ASV 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born anew.

The problem is the lazy excuse they gave for changing the face model. It's a fake statement, since they wanted Yuri so bad why not use his actual face? And de- age him???? They must be some behind the scenes drama with John Bubnaik. Just be honest, the harassment I mean it's not cool, but Jesus Christ people need to grow a backbone. People are so sensible this days.

@BrainHacker it's a PlayStation exclusive there for Playstation fans are the only ones who can or would complain

@Duke2889 it could be both from PS fans and antis but it is the latter who will always be the loudest. Remember that it is the Playstation fans who were sh*tting on Halo Infinite and not the Xbox fanboys.

@Fath

It hurts nobody. Spiderman PS4 will have minor enhancements on PS5 due to boost mode, however, it's nothing like a full remaster.

Two years is too soon for a remaster? Huh? The Last of Us remastered came out a year after the PS3 version and was a big success. Btw, TLOUR was a full priced game while Spiderman Remastered is merely $20.

The problem here is that gullible ppl took the bait from by those attempting to smear Sony. Warhammer Chaosbane is coming out on SX as a $60 remaster Nov 10th yet nobody is attacking the Xbox lineup or Games workshop for that. I'm sure those who own the PS4 copy will see native improvements while playing on SX but the remaster will likely be vastly superior. $60 is a bit steep imo but u get the point. These games won't natively be remastered just by putting them on SX or PS5. Even a next gen patch isn't the same.

Insomniac is a reputable developer who never screws the public. I trust them. If u own Spidey PS4 and are purchasing a PS5 u can enjoy some native improvements for free. However, if u want a remastered experience with new assets and trophies u can buy the remaster for $20 assuming u are purchasing Miles Morales.

Spiderman Remastered is worth it for the dlc alone, but u are free to ignore it if u please.