To be fair to Sony, we can see what it’s trying to do with Parties on PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 5. Effectively, it wants them to be more Discord-esque, enabling you to communicate with your pals in a variety of different ways. The problem is that this change comes at the expense of the simplicity of the previous system, and we’re a little surprised it made it past the prototyping stage.
After several days of strong criticism, the company has taken to Twitter to notify fans that it’s listening to feedback. Frankly, it’d be pretty hard to miss based on the evidence we’ve seen:
That’s the extent of the message, so there are no solutions proposed right now, but hopefully it can find a way to provide everyone with the best of both worlds. Ultimately, something’s going to have to change, because players are not happy with the changes introduced this week. What are your thoughts on the new Party system? Share your feedback in the comments section below.
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Hopefully this puts a stop to the approximately 8 billion forum posts a day about this 😂😂
All they have to do is add one time parties and all is fixed. From where I stand the changes are awesome and don't bother me, I've been wanting parties to take on a discord channel vibe for a while now.
Never been in a Party to know if the new system sucks. Then again, I don't have PS+, either, so....
Also, never experienced a Discord channel, either.
Good!
I don't care of parties, but I'm interested how Sony manages this sticky situation? Will it change something or just "looking" and waiting when riots stop?
@God_of_Nowt
There are a lot of clear issues.
We need temp parties and a kick feature with them. Just add the old system back along with the new; if we had that then this new system would be a great addition to the service. It isn't a good replacement though. I made a comment earlier saying the reporting voice feature wasn't that bad because you could just kick the sensitive people out, but I realized you can't kick people.
Really? Am I missing something?
@djlard
They should just make parties not bound to messaging groups. It is harder for those that want to meet new people or play with a new friend of a friend.
Probably the worse update since I bought a ps4. So since 2015. There was another one that made the friend list very slow during 2018 and that took many days to be fixed.
@Constable_You can't kick people from the party or message group neither?
Add the old system back along with the ability to make private parties again. I guarantee if both systems were available, almost nobody would use the new one. Wasn't broke, didn't need 'fixing'.
I’m glad the PlayStation fans speak up and criticize Sony when necessary unlike the Xbox fans which accept everything Microsoft tell them to accept no matter how crappy it is.
Meanwhile at Nintendo: Shut up, we're doing it like it or not.
Nintendo fan: Ok...it must be for our own good I guess...
Why did they not realize this was a bad idea... hope it’s not too baked into PS5 there was nothing wrong with the previous party system
Listen, this is marketing 101.
There is no issue with parties. Let's create a big fat issue with it. Let's make players hate it.
Boom. Easy fix. We will listen to you players and we will try to make changes.
Boom. Move a few things around and then boom. Here we go. We've listened to player feedback, AND we have improved parties.
Boom. Sony are the best. Sony listen to players.
Marketing 101.
I only have real friends I play with in my friendlist, so I have them all in one group.
Ah crap. I already filmed myself smashing my preorder paper receipt with a sledgehammer and posted it on their Twitter. Now I look crazy.
It's good they are recording conversations as i have heard a lot of racist speech on the PSN chat coms especially in COD games. If this means people can be permanently banned then this is a very good deterrent to hate speech!
Don't forget out smart devices like our phones are always listening but people are cool with that?
If you just use chat for what it is meant for then you have nothing to worry about and just chill out!
Just keep public party chat an option?
@theMEGAniggle Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Gotta love negative people.
I dont even know what the issue is.
I've been playing games with other in party the last week and it all seems the same to me.
Click join party.
Talk.
Click leave party.
What
Back when I had friends who were into gaming I had to ask my mum if they could come round to play. Now THAT was inconvenient.
@God_of_Nowt Opinions can be wrong. You are in the minority here. Casuals and even Hardcore gamers play with friends and strangers.
Either way, they can add the old party system without changing your preferred one, so no worries.
Well i played warzone last night with the usual suspects and party chat was fine..when i was playing pga2k21 a bit later and chatting to a friend playing path of exile again no issues setting it up..i didnt see that much difference at all so i am wondering if maybe a lot of over reacting has taken hold and mass paranoia has set in..beware the pookah!!
@4kgk2 Yes. Including games. Personally, I now expect every major sony studio to put out goty level games.
@ATaco Nintendo fans have very low standards. Reselling overpriced games, some with limited time, no price cuts or good sales, not needing good online to play many of their multiplayer games, no messaging, party chat, achievements or trophies etc...
Glad xbox exists. Otherwise Bloodborne would still be 60 dollars today.
@Insightful
I never got people who complained about ps4 controller battery life. It lasts 4 to 6 hours for me. That is A LOT. I just plug it in and I believe you can buy a longer extension if you need it.
Yeah. The ui and ps store lags.
Ps plus offerings have been great. Better than xbox.
Compared to nintendo, both xbox and sony lack multiplayer offerings, but it is not their studios greatest strengths. Ps4 had tlou remastered, uncharted 4, gran turismo sport, now ghost of tsushima legends, bloodborne coop and I believe that was it. Xbox has a lot of them, but I only see halo, gears and forza being the main players. And sea of thieves for some odd reason.
Crackdown, grounded, state of decay 2, dead rising 3, bleeding edge, predator, driveclub etc... failed.
I rather have 10 good single player games than 5 good ones and 5 average multiplayer games just for the sake of having multiplayer games. Third party do that job anyways.
They have destruction all stars now. Tlou 2 probably will come next year. Demon souls and Little big planet have coop. They tried buying warframe devs but lost to tencent. They need new multiplayer studios.
They can tweet all the PR speak they want, but this change aint going anywhere, it was designed with the PS5 and its UI in mind, im not sure they would be able to change it on PS4 without affecting the PS5 as it would then render what they showed in the PS5 UI reveal video completely useless.
Its the constant influx of not only system notifications each time someone starts a party but now also the constant notification in ur messages that somebody has started a chat, twice the notifications for an overly complicated system that nobody wanted or needed.
@Insightful The PS5 and DualSense are their response. Let's wait to see how long battery life is and how fast the UI will be. Than we can judge if Sony have listened.
I'd honestly just welcome some form of Discord integration, that's all I really want for console comms, even if its just through the browser version running in the background.
@God_of_Nowt
Ok
I just replied just to explain you this is an issue for the majority of people.
Do not make it the deal bigger than it is.
It just strike me that you saw no issue for others. That is all. Have a nice day.
@God_of_Nowt are you ok dude? It's not so much that anything you're saying is wrong, but you seem to have been a lot easier to provoke over the past ~36hrs than usual.
Hope everything's good, but feel free to DM me on Twitter if you need to talk (same handle as here)
I don't use the party system much but appreciate that it's had a negative impact on people.
I just want to be able to easily create a group of people from the details of a game where it says how many friends own it too so we can chat about that game and potentially group up later. That should be one button press.
@naruball tbh I was being satirical
@naruball If you're gonna pick the one negative comment in a sea of "thank God they are maybe changing it back" maybe you're seeking out negativity on this one. Possibly to cover for the fact that you so openly defended what's clearly a terrible update for most everyone.
the way i look at it F. SONY! this is why iam going back to old school. i was going to get a PS 5 but ive decided aganst it since Sony wants to "FIX" the party system. theres an old saying if its not broke DONT fix it this refers to you,Sony!
I know that when one of my friends downloaded the latest update, he then couldn't get into party chat or game chat, is that still a thing? What can we not do that we could do before? Not sure I like the idea of Sony recording, or other players recording chat; all seems a bit Big Brother to me, if you don't like what someone is saying, mute them, kick them if that's an option, or leave the chat!
I do not use this option, but I am glad that Sony is listening the fans and they will make changes accordingly.
Seems the player base is unanimous on this one, it sucks. I can't believe some dult at Sony actually thought it was a good idea.
Why would anyone want a party chat to be like Discord?
Discord is a mess in visual form - hundreds of people effectively talking over one another, with no way to follow a discussion. Why would you want that in audio form?
To my mind, small, private party chats were the ideal solution to the chaotic in-game lobbies where you could hear everyone talking/eating/drinking/singing/playing music. Baffles me who'd want more than 10 people in private party chat.
One minute it's massive 16 player parties, next it's private only. Seems like there's conflicted ideas over in Japan.
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