Soccer spreadsheet sim Football Manager 2021 will launch on Nintendo Switch, Xbox Series X, and Xbox One this holiday, but both the PlayStation 5 and PlayStation 4 will be left on the bench. Asked why Sony’s systems have been excluded, Sports Interactive boss Miles Jacobson explained that it’s because the Japanese giant failed to provide the studio with devkits – despite requests.
“To make games for a platform, you need a devkit,” he told a franchise fan curious about PlayStation’s absence. “To get a devkit, the platform holder has to want the game on the platform. We spoke with Sony, [and] we have no devkits. We spoke with Microsoft, [and] they sent them to us.” He added: “There are limited dev kits available. They prioritise games they want on their platform.”
Football Manager has appeared on PlayStation platforms before, most notably in the form of Football Manager Classic 2014 on the PS Vita. Presumably Sports Interactive will get the devkits it needs ahead of next year’s iteration, but for now you’re going to have to make do with, er, FIFA 21’s updated career mode for your football management fix. Yeah, we know it’s not quite the same…
[source twitter.com]
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FFS Sony!
Weird when you consider how many smaller studios must have access to PlayStation dev kits. Why would Sony deny Football Manager of all things?
Is this* really that noteworthy if the main example of it appearing on PS was 6 years ago on the Vita?
Still, I'm happy to join in with #FireJimRyan. Never trust a man with two first names.
Couldn't you play it with BC right?
Yeah, I don't get how a developer owned by SEGA making a very, very popular franchise couldn't get PlayStation devkits. Especially when they have a prior relationship with Sony on the PS Vita version.
@Wake13 Nope, it's not on any PlayStation platform.
These kinda games are always played best with mouse and keyboard rather than a controller i find.
I'm sure there's plenty of discussion to be had on this story, but I cant even pretend to care about Football Manager.
@get2sammyb Wait, so they didn't get a PS4 Dev kit? That's really weird since SEGA owns them, pretty sure it should be that easy
I honestly do not care...
@Matroska It's a pretty massive franchise on PC to be fair. Obviously it's best played there due to the interface, but a PlayStation version probably would have sold pretty well.
@get2sammyb "Soccer spreadsheet sim"
It's football pal.
@Dunny2k But the alliteration is too good.
@Wake13 Yeah, it's a really strange one. As @ShogunRok said, tons of smaller studios have PlayStation devkits. Seems insane to think a SEGA subsidiary with a pretty massive franchise couldn't get some.
It's hard for Sony to agree as FM isn't a game, it's a tutorial for Microsofts Access and Excel.
@get2sammyb Oh I know, yeah. I just mean it doesn't sound like it has much of a history with Sony so it's not unusual for it to not appear. That said, it does seem odd Sony would ignore it yet have high grade sh*t like Life of Black Tiger on their console.
It might also be the only example that comes to mind of a game that's on Switch, XB and PC but not PS.
Very strange. I wonder what their reasoning is. I love a bit of Football Manager, I’ve taken both Bromley and Hartlepool to the Premier League and even won the title with Hartlepool. Now I just need that Champions League win...
Never heard of it.
Not a game to be played on console is it... I noticed this year’s version is on gamepass for PC, which is a nice treat for Xbox on PC people
Yeah I dont buy this reason at all. So you're telling me the Life of Black Tiger "developer" got a dev kit but not a studio working under SEGA. Perhaps more fuel to the rumor of Microsoft buying SEGA? They just used this excuse to explain away it being exclusive.
@ShogunRok My guess is the requested made it to Jim Ryan's desk and he used it as toilet paper, I don't have hard evidence this happened though 🤷
That bad joke aside there's still rumblings of Sega being best buddies with Microsoft, maybe is not related but it's bizzare a Sega owned company not getting them when any bottom feeder can get a dev kit. Something's fishy.
Ah well time to bring LMA back to ps5 😁
I don't think they really sought out a ps4 dev kit. Has this company never put a game on ps4 at all?
Well this is odd
@MidnightDragonDX MS wasted them Halo infinite money on buying articles that's why
There has got to be more to this story. Unlikely Sony just said no.
@ShogunRok When was the last entry of the game on Playstation?
@MidnightDragonDX exactly my thoughts we did not hear sonys answer to that, so based on what we know, this story is very one sided view.
They sound like children. ps5 is one thing, but they couldn't release it on ps4? Give me a break. Extremely unprofessional.
Damn this makes the Microsoft buying Sega even more realistic
@Dunny2k hello, football pal. I'm dad.
@nessisonett Unbelievable Jeff!
@nessisonett I've completed it mate. I was so good I became manager of the decade and got promoted to the FA
Its a game that would run 4K60 on pretty much everythig, so Sony, when short on PS5 dev kits this spring, probably asked them, to develop for the PS4/PS4 Pro and use the back compability feature of PS5. This would mean one more Dev kit for “real next gen game” left and everybody would be happy. Then the developer sent them to hell and there you go – no FM on PS.
I would have liked to have another go at a football management game. Last one I played was on the original Xbox. Still, if Sony were low on dev kits fir some reason I can understand why this style of game wouldn’t have been a priority for them.
@Matroska Ori mate
FM is a massive franchise, it has some truly devoted fans! They will literally buy an Xbox then to play this game. My concern is if this game won’t come to PlayStation due to Sonys short sightedness what else won’t be coming to the PlayStation due to the same reason?
@MidnightDragonDX It’s called wanting your chosen platform to do better, instead of rolling over on your back and yelling Sony give it to me all the time, why not step back and criticise them once in a while like this story, to encourage them to do better for their customers?
@mrmartinrohr Read the headline let alone the story and you’ll see it’s NOT on the PS4 either for the same reason... and I doubt Sony is short if PS4 dev kits.. they just do not want the game on their platform.
A) Football Manager should only be played on PC. Why would anyone want to even try and play it with a controller?
B) These games have become so convoluted and, dare I say it, dull over the years that your not missing anything anyway. Give me Championship Manager 01/02 any day!
How many people threaten to cancel their pre-ordered PS5 because of this?
I wonder if the lack of communication from Sony to the gaming public is unfortunately extending to its partners and companies making games for them.
Sony seems to have a huge problem with communication at the moment, and when it starts affecting games something really needs to be done. Sony unfortunately just come across as incompetent here.
Oh, Sony. That is such a classic 2020 Sony thing to do.
The confirmation bias is strong in these comments.
Sony really are a bunch of idiots. Too lazy to send out a dev kit for a game that has a lot of devoted fans
@tomassi
You do know a keyboard can be used on PS4? I do agree with you on championship manager 01/02 I still play that to this day and has an active community updating players twice a season.
I’ll have to hold out for a PS5 version or just get in on PC.
No doubt a PS4 version would fry my PS4 as it’s done just that to my laptop after 1000hours on one save.
Reckon the switch version would be gimped beyond belief, so that’s a no go.
I've got no interest in Football Manager whatsoever but that seems like another fairly major blunder from Sony. Really would like to see them get their act together sooner rather than later...
@MidnightDragonDX If there’s bad/underwhelming news to cover we sadly still have to cover it.
Nothing more to it than that really.
@get2sammyb
Never thought I'd see this comment in here. And from an editor, no less! Still, reported this piece of news for an Italian news site, and linked to this article as the source. Much appreciated.
@naruball
"Dad, I'm hungry!"
I use stadia as my FM platform, no PC requirement and no subscription requirement, just buy the game and play.
@hoffa007 I spent many a hour on LMA Manager 😁
Thank you Sony!
To clarify I spent many many hours playing this on PC in the noughties, to the point where I wasn't interested in console gaming so in the process missed out on many classic games.
If I had this on PS then I probably wouldn't play anything else, not until I've led Yeovil* to CL glory.
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*Not a Yeovil fan btw, support the Harry Kane, Gareth Bale and Heung-min Son Team.
@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L In my life I have never heard anyone say "see the soccer last night?".
It was just rugby fans and toffs that call it soccer in this country, to everyone else it's football or cringe footie.
@blockfight They are best played that way, but since PS4 (and presumably PS5) support keyboard and mouse, there's no reason it couldn't be played that way on the console - if the developer were to support it, which many don't even when they could/should.
@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L It's funny, to me anyway, how so many different sports go by the football moniker and yet in these same sports they very rarely use their feet to control the ball!
I know the history of it but during my time on this earth I've always called it football as do the vast majority of fans.
Sky use the word soccer mainly because their previous owner is an Aussie now American citizen plus if football was mainly played on a Friday I'm sure their main programme would be called Football Friday and not Soccer Saturday.
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Good job Sony, looking dumber by the minute.
People were saying that since they won this gen so easily they would get cocky, I didn't want to believe them but nowadays seems that there's only good news for MS and bad news for Sony...what the crap is going on?
@TheIronChimp to right, decent games what a shame you don't get LMA anymore really.
It seems unlikely that nowhere in Sega could anybody spare a PS4 dev kit
@AFCC @oldschool1987 This series usually isn't on PlayStation. I'm not sure why this is an article.
Wasn't on PS4 last year
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_Manager_2020
Or the year before that
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_Manager_2019
Or the year before that
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_Manager_2018
Or the year before that
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_Manager_2017
...And I'm sure you get the picture. Maybe Push Square have noticed negative articles get way more views than neutral or positive ones at the moment. Pretty sure there wasn't an article about the lack of FM on PS4 last year, the year before, etc. I did a search and all I saw was an article from 2011 about it not being on Vita - and no one cared as it has 0 comments.
@LuckSource How the hell did you think I was being serious when i followed it up with "never trust a man with two first names"?
@MidnightDragonDX So they dont understand that they dont want too waste a devkit on them?
@Matroska Clickbait its getting a little sad.
@blacklivesmatter Honestly, no I didn't realise you can use a keyboard on PS4. A bluetooth one? And a mouse? Handy to know, although I feel CM (or FM) is a game meant to played a foot infront of you on a laptop personally. The new ones are too convoluted to interest me anyway. The old ones, updated as you say, are much better. Get through a whole season in a few hours. Far more satisfying!
This is only one side of the story but sure go with the anti Sony one people
@Col_McCafferty It's referred to as either Futbol or Soccer here in the states.
We have strong Spanish influence, especially here in the desert southwest portion of the United States which is why Soccer is mostly called Futbol in our region of the states.
@KisekiFan7 Well that's your country but I'm talking about the rest of the world.
There are other countries and cultures out there you know.
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@Col_McCafferty I wasn't correcting you dude. I just added to the conversation, sorry for the misunderstanding and I guarantee it was absolutely my bad. >_>
@Col_McCafferty I should have been more clear.
@KisekiFan7 No problem, apologies to you as well.
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Seriously if you wanted manager Sims get a p.c...
@Col_McCafferty In the Netherlands voetbal if you change it too its football. 😆
Lol what a crock of s***.
@Matroska this series COULD be on the PS4 and PS5 if Sony moved. That's what's at discussion here I think
No ps devkits is bs they have them but choose Not to bring FM to ps some reason called xbox since FM has never been on a playstation consoles ( psp,psvita not included)but has been on a xbox 360 back in 2009 so no surprise they have no interest bringing it to playstation 4 or 5 atleast this years anyway who knows what next few years have in mind and mind u its just FM Go version not full pc version
@hoffa007 I agree, I would be delighted with either Football Manager, or LMA Manager making an appearance for PlayStation 5, I am even holding on to my disc version of LMA Manager 2007 for PS2 incase they do decide we can play whatever PlayStation games we want on it
@Jamesfisher13 I agree with you for sure, you got that game to, I got that and lma 01,02 and 03 on ps1 just love those games haha.
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