Fans Want to Know if They Can Upgrade from PS4 to Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered on PS5

If Sony doesn't, they would be a huge ✨hypocrite✨

@roe is that Conker?

I think it would be a dick move to lock the PS5 remaster behind an ultimate edition of the PS5 version for Miles Morales. It's kind of giving me vibes of what 505 Games did with Control. Especially since PS5 games are going to be considerably more expensive as standard editions go now, let alone other editions.

I think all Sony first party games should have upgrade offers available as well as the big third party exclusive stuff at the very least.

We didn't even know this rebuilt spider man existed, and now people are going to be mad, not just disappointing, but mad... that's ridiculous. As long as I can play the ps4 spider man on the ps5, Sony didn't lie.

I don't think I would be bothered either way. I enjoyed it on the PS4 and don't really want to go through it all again even with the up date. that's why I pre ordered the standalone Miles Morales, to enjoy what's gonna happen next. They remastered The Last of Us for the PS4 too which does have a cost. Plus I think even if you put in your original PS4 spiderman into the PS5 it will still play better than it did on the PS4, just not with all the bells and whistles of a full remaster.

If you could upgrade, they'd say.

Same with backwards compatibility beyond PS4 games. They didn't say anything because there was nothing to say.

Afraid I can't see this happening. Sony seem to be seeing what they can get away with lately so I would be absolutely amazed if they allow the upgrade for existing owners. I'm sure the PS4 version will work on backwards compatibility, but for the upgraded PS5 version Sony are definitely going to have people paying for it.

CDPR coming forward and saying The Witcher 3 will receive free next gen upgrades for a five year old game is kicking all these other companies in the nuts.

@Orpheus79V They could say no.

I think the answer is no, it's already 2 years and the game isn't live service, and the new remaster have new tech like texture, 3D audio etc.

@HotGoomba Sony never promise to update their games, beside their games mostly single player games with no mtx, so I don't think it's fair to expect getting the new remaster for free. Of course I'm glad if sony give the remaster for free, I just don't expect it.

@OmegaStriver Yeah that's surprising if the update is just not resolutions and framerate improvement, but a new next-gen tech like texture, dualsense support, 3D audio, etc. I don't have problem buying witcher 3 again if there's true ps5 remake 😃

@Kidfried I don't think 3D All Stars is as apt of a comparison compared to something like the bs going on with Control Ultimate Edition. Discarding when Nintendo put out a select few Wii games for download on Wii U, this is basically the first time Sunshine and Galaxy were made playable on completely new systems, and I think the first time the original Mario 64 has been made available on a new console as well.

Every time you refer to Sony as "the Japanese giant" I picture this guy.

I'm kind of done re-purchasing games so it's whatever for me. If they provide an upgrade path for free, great. If not, there's plenty of new stuff to be playing anyway.

@Kidfried how are they 1-upping them? Nintendo is forcing you to pay $60 for an emulated version of games that are decades old with only really a bump in resolution. Sony is instead letting you play your ps4 version on ps5 while charging $20 for a vastly improved version of the game (textures, models, resolution, ray tracing, frame rate, etc). While it would be nice if it were free, its not like you don't have the option to play the version you already have and the price of the upgrade to the remastered isn't that much

Is the ps5 version of Spiderman digital only or physical.word up son

You *****, complaining about free upgrade but you're going to pay for $70/ €80 with a big smile!! Greed and hypocrisy!

Hmm Sony pulling a 505 games here ... Not cool

I am actually gobsmacked at the level of whiny entitlement to be found in these comments.

Seriously guys?

If you have the original PS4 version, you ARE getting a free upgrade to PS5.

What you aren't getting is access to a value-added product. It has new skins, new textures, new trophies even. It's a completely different beast. Why should you get access to it for free? It's a remaster. Are you expecting EA to just give you a copy of Mass Effect remaster when it comes out if you own the original?

While I concede it might be nice if you could upgrade to the remaster for a small fee instead of buying a whole different game how is this any different from any of the other myriad of remasters that have come out over the years.

You can't moan about the PS5 not truly being 'next generation' and how they are releasing everything on PS4 and then the next day moan cause they are only releasing something on the PS5.

I am going to take a step back from the internet for now cause this is just getting beyond.

And I really think less of Push Square for putting up such a click-bait non issue and giving it a spotlight it doesn't need.

Don't bother @ me, I'm not gonna answer.

@Kidfried FYI, Pikmin 3 is back on the Wii U eShop apparently. Don't ask me why!

Apparently not.

https://gamingroute.com/people-wont-get-spider-man-ps4-remaster-for-free-even-if-they-own-spider-man-ps4/

@Kidfried Pikmin was relisted on the wiiu recently. About a week after the Switch announcement.

@FindMeCampin yeah, I remember a spokesman for Nintendo entering my house with a gun and pointing it at me saying that I should buy their 3D all stars game for 60 dollar. I ended up getting two.

How dare they.

@Iroha leave it to angry gamers to find something to be offended by. All that rage. Man, some people need therapy, not more time playing video games.

I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say people who are disappointed and upset by this are guilty of whiny entitlement but, i mean, I guess.

It's really just a matter of expectations and since Sony has been pretty poor at communicating much of anything lately, it's natural, in my view, that people might not know exactly where their expectations should be. It's Sony's job to sell the idea, plain and simple. No one else has any obligation outside of that.

@Iroha I agree with everything you said

@Iroha nah, that's actually typical of push square at this point.

@naruball the guy went on a rant that got him so upset he left to cool off but it's everyone else who's mad?

@Kidfried prefer warm with a bit of sugar (and cinnamon) and sometimes a little bit of butter.

@Kidfried

To be honest I wan't really pinpointing anyone on here.

My frustration isn't really with this but the general tone of discourse since the showcase.

Yes the pre-orders was an absolute disgrace. I think we can all agree with that but it feels like everyone has went into 'rage' mode and is now picking at every little thing they can find and I find utterly childish.

And I am really annoyed at @pushsquare right now for feeding into it and fanning this type of discussion. It's just bad journalism quite frankly.

But I know by answering and being on this thread I'm aggravating and validating this kind of discourse which is why I'm gonna step away.

No hard feeling on anyone here.

Since Miles Morales carries over its gonna be a hard sell of Spider-Man isn’t...

It's not just Sony decision though. Marvel wants their royalties.

Why would they when they can gouge us even more. A few months ago Sony were like "dont worry we have your back with upgrades, timed pre orders, ps5 console exclusives" etc etc. Now that its time to hold up their end of the bargain they are silent. I really hope that XBOX does a lot better this generation so that Sony can eat some humble pie

I'm not sure what the concern is here. If you own Spider-Man on PS4 then I'd expect that you can play that original game on your PS5 for free via backwards compatibility, very probably with faster load times and at 60fps just through the power of the system, without much developer input. What you cannot expect is that this new game, a remaster with new assets and textures which take time and money to create, is given to you for free just because you want it. This is entirely different to the Control scenario where the assets are all there already and 505 just pay-wall them off until you pay an upgrade fee...

I want to know what happened to Mods in games? Thought this was something that Microsoft was doing and Sony was looking into it. Is that a dead subject now?

Don't care. Got the original in a sale and enjoyed it, but wouldn't want to play through it again.

@KathyQ I'd say the key difference is that a game like Cyberpunk has been built from the ground up for that kind of cross-gen scalability as they knew they were releasing at the end of a generation, and are also releasing on PC where having a range of graphics options are normal. Insomniac's Spider-man was a PS4 game built solely for the PS4 in 2018 - if the new Miles Morales PS5 game had the same characters and moves then fair enough they should use that to improve the original game for free, but they're talking about doing next gen rework on the Peter Parker, MJ character models etc. which is an entirely new project. In my view it's essentially a paid sneak peek at the assets they'll go on to use for Spider-Man 2 in the future.

1. you bought the game
2. you bought a launch ps5
buying your games and being an early adopter, supporting Sony and being 'loyal?', they absolutely should be providing the free upgrade, maybe then you'd spend the saving on Miles Morales

Considering the amount of publishers offering upgrades to existing games, and the amount of publishers that offered upgrades for PS4 Pro and X1X, it's not an unreasonable expectation at all that Sony would be doing the same for a fairly recent major PS4 game, for which the major launch tentpole is additional content for said game. Especially while they're doing so for other cross-gen titles.

This one gets muddied because it's a pseudo-cross gen release. it released long before the launch window on the old console and before GoT which is not in discussions for an updated release. Nobody would have been talking about getting an upgrade on this "older" game, had it not been for the fact that its "stand alone DLC" is the PS5 showpiece title, and it appears to be including the upgrades for "free" if purchased together with the new content (for new PS/Spidey customers.) So if someone buying the bundle of Spidey and MM together today pays considerably less together than those that bought the main game and then buys the DLC at PS5 launch, it's not unreasonable to believe that, like with MS's "smart delivery' games, Witcher, and many other games, that upgrade content is already part of the cost. They don't have to do that, but it's a fair and reasonable expectation that they would do that based on their competitors, partners, and their own policies on other games, and the confused and muddied waters of the bundle price on this game.

This is arrogant Sony that can walk on water, so I'm not expecting it. But getting it would be in line with current industry policies for this generation change.

Fine with me either way. I enjoyed what I played and got it when it was $29. Got a good bang for my buck. Not expecting every game to have free PS5 upgrades.

Got Miles on Pre-order... basically what I want to play.

I'm glad to see a post about this because it's been stressing me out. Even before Spiderman 2018 was announced, Insomniac has been my favorite developer and a quality Spiderman game was my dream game. So it will probably be shocking to hear that I still haven't played it yet, despite owning the complete addition since November (couldn't resist at $15). I just don't have the time to play like I used to and the backlog is real. I'm not going to be getting a PS5 in its first year, so now my debate is whether I should hold off until I eventually get one to play the enhanced version. And if I do, will I have to buy it again even though my PS4 version is still on my shelf sealed.

I think the answer is obvious though: Since most people who pick up Miles Morales already own the original, if the upgrade was free there wouldn't be any incentive to buy the ultimate edition. So it's definitely not going to be free. However, it would be great if Sony offered a paid upgrade at a reduced price for owners of the PS4 version.

@Iroha if you don't want people bothering you why post a comment? Delete it and go away. The rest of us will survive discussing the article without you.

I think if 505 got backlash Sony should get too since they are doing essentially the same thing. It won't really effect me since I'm getting Miles for PS4 but still they should at least clear the confusion.

@TheFrenchiestFry Why is that different? Its even a more lazy port with almost no effort put in it. But i forgot its Nintendo then its good. 😆

@TheNewButler If its a voucher they can keep it.

Im amazed that people who bought the old PS4 Spiderman are so entitled as to feel they should get the full remaster free!

I’m pretty sure everyone charges for remasters. This isn’t just a patch to add some textures to the PS4 version. Should Sony have given everyone The Last of Us Remastered just because they’d bought the PS3 version? (the answer is no).

Now if people buy the remaster on PS4 they should definite get the PS5 version when they get the console, and I’m certain they will!

@Juanalf I have to stick up for @Iroha here.

Sony are NOT doing the same as 505. 505 is basically releasing a game of the Year edition. It's the vanilla game and all the dlc, for a lot less money than the PS4 version on the PS5 and saying, it's not possible to let people who bought the ps4 version and the season pass with all the dlc to upgrade. They will have to rebuy everything to get an upgraded version that runs (Because it ran like trash on PS4 ). It's the same game, no upscaling, no new assets, no new content or anything. I agree that's *****.

Insomniac have bundled a remaster in with Miles Morales on PS5 as a value add to the bundle. It has new assets, new content and even a different trophy list. It's a completley different product. Why would they give you it for free??? Now I'm not saying they shouldn't offer people a way to pay 10 to 15 dollars to upgrade to the remaster but I do agree with the point Iroha made.

There has been so much pontification and bluster about the PS5 releasing everything on PS4 and 'how can it be next gen if it's also avail on PS4' and then the minute they make something PS5 only, people complain about that.

@Flaming_Kaiser Never implied that at all. I was talking about how locking an upgraded PS5 release behind a more expensive version of an existing game was comparable to Control's PS5 upgrade being locked behind Ultimate Edition

This was never about bootlicking Nintendo.

"Many publishers are offering free upgrades for the next-gen versions of their games."

That includes Microsoft.

"To be fair, Insomniac Games appears to have put a lot of effort into the PS5 version of Marvel’s Spider-Man."

Therefore Sony, publisher and owner of Insomniac Games, is entitled to charge users twice for both versions. After all, PS5 games are very affordable and the other companies don't put a lot of effort into their Series X/PS5 remasters, only Sony does.

@NeuralDeclan cdpr is giving a free nextgen version of the witcher III away, to the people who bought it. Dunno if it includes dlc or what versions, etc. But that game was definitely built without nextgen in mind.

@Iroha

Mass Effect slightly different as Spider-Man is on current gen. People have only just bought the game, many for full price PS4 game, including the game of the year edition.

I'm surprised you're defending Sony, and then getting worked up on top of it. Trust me, waste of time defending a company that just wants your money.

The main takeaway from this I see, is that Sony have locked the PS4 Spider-Man behind a £70 Miles Morales Ultimate Edition. Sure, it's two games, but one which you probably already own. So you have to pay £70 to play it. Extras? Well graphics that's a given. Not sure what additional stuff you mean, other than some new suits?

Meanwhile Microsoft are upgrading Gears 5 to next gen graphics for free, which is on game pass to. Control will get graphical upgrades for £30.

How is what Sony doing okay? I'm genuinely intrigued why you're defending them.

@HotGoomba Spiderman on PS5 is a full fledged remaster with new character models, lighting, trophies, and even suits. It's not just a 4K patch, it should require payment.

Plenty of Sony games will have free upgrades such as Horizon FW, Sackboy, and likely all the first party PS4 games. Even Spiderman will probably see some upgrade, but this is a remaster, it's different. Even has a new trophy set.

@Sekys "Control is getting grfx upgrades for $30"

And Spiderman Remastered will cost only $20. Miles Morales is $50, so u pay an extra 20 to get Spiderman Remastered. If u already have Spiderman PS4 it'll probably receive a free upgrade anyway, but not necessarily improved skin, hair, eyes, models, lighting, new suits, new trophies, more npcs/vehicles ect like the REMASTER. It'll probably receive a resolution upgrade, 60 fps mode, and rt reflections.

Miles Morales Ultimate Edition is more so for ppl who haven't played Spiderman PS4. $20 is cheaper than the GotY Edition on PS4. Heck, Spiderman Remastered comes with all DLC which might be worth it alone. U get the $25 story DLC with it. U think CDPR is giving the 2 Witcher story DLCs with the upgrade if u only own the base version of TW3? No. There are a wealth of options. Miles Morales PS4/PS5 for 50, Spiderman PS4 with regular upgrades on PS5, or Miles Morales Ultimate with Spiderman Remastered for 70 total. Nobody is forcing anything, if u want a true remaster with new suits and trophies get the Ultimate edition for $20 more, if not, just buy Miles Morales for $50. Ffs.

@BlueOcean

Play Spiderman PS4 on PS5 if u already have all the DLC and aren't interested in new suits/trophies. It'll likely receive an upgrade anyway. Probably not a full remaster to the extent of the Ultimate edition, but more in line with an upgrade patch (res/fps/rt) that we see from other studios.

Sony giving free upgrades to PS5 versions of games as well. Miles Morales, Sackboy, Horizon FW, and likely a slew of PS4 exclusives will receive free patches. Even Spiderman should get a patch, but i'm not sure it'll receive the full extent of upgrades that the Remaster will.

According to the VERY credible developer Insomniac Games Spiderman Remastered is more than a simple resolution/fps next gen patch. It's a full remaster that required significantly more work than a typical upgrade patch. It has..

new character models
new skin, hair, eyes
new facial animations
lighting improvements
ambient shadows
ray traced reflections
more pedestrians
more cars
new suits
a new platinum
an updated Peter Parker
ofc native 4K and 60fps
improved draw distances
all DLC
improved textures & assets
near instant loads
Dual Sense haptic feedback
3D audio
New photo mode features

It's a remaster, not a simple resolution patch. Also, the game is over 2 years old, a game like Gears 5 is merely a year old with an active multiplayer portion that Microsoft wants to boost. Plus, Series X launches with ZERO major exclusives let alone first party games so it makes sense that they would push their most recent AAA game for Series X. Spiderman is a 2 year old single player game that has likely exhausted its sales. Different animals. Microsoft has to push Gears 5, it has nothing new for SX and Gears 5 is still an active mp game. They want to sell those Gears 5 microtransactions anyway. A service based mtx game SHOULD see regular updates.

I hope we can get a free upgrade.

The problem here is Unless you buy Miles Morales there is no way to purchase the PS4 remastered game as a upgrade or stand alone game!!