Tifa's Chest Size Reduced in Final Fantasy VII Remake Per Square Enix Ethics Department Request

Her design looks great. I dread to think of some of the comments that are going to come out as a result of this, though.

Sounds like my puritan Aunt, "large breasts are indecent".

Way to body shame women Square Enix. There's a difference between hyper-sexualizing a character and just having a character with certain proportions.

On a whole I don't have a problem with character redesigns, I don't find her breast size to be a defining aspect of her character, but do go so far as to say it's unethical, and to keep it natural I would say offends the wonderful women who have those natural proportions.

#FREETHENIPPLE

@Kidfried Maybe @themcnoisy will have more success with this one?

they are still big tho, i prefer the redesign

looks fine to me and besides it's not like they didn't do it years ago in Advent Children or Kingdom Hearts 2, hell even Dissidia 012

she still looks like Tifa and i think her design is great and i'm not bothered she no longer looks like she has 2 balloons stuffed into her top

and she still looks bad ass in motion

Of course, because it is totally unethical for women to have large boobs. How dare they!

She is still one of gamings hottest characters, breast reduction or not.

@FullbringIchigo I agree she looks amazing and they're very well animated, I think I watched that gif replay too much. Got to love how the hottest topic of debate is how big Tifa's breasts are, both here and in Square's headquarters

@Tsurii she still has big breasts

@kyleforrester87 that's it the Toblerone scale, girls breasts in video games change size in relation to how big Toblerones currently are

She is stunning in the remake, it's all that counts. They also reduced the size of her eyes and nobody complained.
I find it stupid to mention the "Ethic" department. I would have been fine with this design choice without dumb politically correct reasons.

@Rhaoulos

I agree. There is no need for justification. It is a fine character redesign.

she's the breast ever.shes breastiful.haha.word up son

To celebrate diversity in gaming they should have reduced only one.

If i look at the GIF i dont see any issues.

@Dubya75 Look at the picture above the still are big.

Still looks big to me , i'm ok as long as i see those puppies bounce!

So isn't this demeaning to big sized brests girls? Because to me it seems so..."Oh you have big breasts, you should reduce them" lol squenix please!

“To be honest, we’re more surprised that the organisation has an ethics department...”

My thoughts exactly. I propose doing away with ethics departments at video game developers in order to cut costs. “Ethics Departments” are superfluous on account of something we call “common sense.”
Ethics departments probably just confound the issues and end up making mountains out of molehills. (Or,... er, molehills out of mountains, as the case may be...)

Im kinda confused. I thought the japanese didnt care about cleavage and whatnot. Ive seen half naked anime chicks for cup noodles ads in japan before. Whats the problem now after all these years?

@FullbringIchigo
They still look pretty big. At least at that angle.

Jeez, they’re still big. If any of you lot read the article you’d see that what Squeenix wanted was for them to be more natural. They weren’t concerned about them being too big for ethics reasons, it’s because having Tifa exist solely for boys to get their jollies off is a very 1997 idea.

@AFCC Read the eurogamer article before making a dumb comment.

@AFCC Dont see that anywhere in the Square Enix statement.

I don't see anything to get mad over, is their game and their vision so they can make her flat chested for all we care. Their ethics department is still part of the company so I still count it as their vision.

Surprised they didn't make her obese to promote "body positivity".

I like her design in the remake. She's still my favorite in FF7.

huh, didnt even notice it during the reveal...............

Well, the reasoning sounds fine, but I’m not so sure about the ethics departments being a part of it...

@Gamer83 precisely, they are just taking a more realistic approach to the design this time round and making it less Anime

She still looks stunning in her short short skirt! Not quite Aeris tho

I have no problems with it because tifa new look is great

They look fine to me. This goes to show that before being outraged, maybe look at the final product first.

I wonder if the ethics department existed in 1997 lol

@oldschool1987 yup. Considering all the games that have made female characters obese to promote body positivity.

Oh wait.

@Flaming_Kaiser @Amppari I was OBVIOUSLY, like pretty obviously, not stating that Square Enix said that LOL

Article on Tifa's breasts. I'm pretending to be surprised. I thought "Ethics Department" was sarcasm.

They don't even look that reduced to me. They probably just look the way they do because she has a sports bra under her top now. It makes sense for a brawler like Tifa to have comfort while fighting. Knocking herself out doing somersaults with the funbags hanging loose wouldn't be helpful during gameplay, would it?

And I know I'm gonna, I dunno, get called names on the internet for saying what I'm about to, but whatever: When I played FF7 for the 1st time two years ago, I was blown away with how much I liked Tifa as a character, and how natural that character came across in the game's context. Even though she had a fanservicetastic design, it never really came up in the game (Granted, you couldn't really play anything for fanservice with graphics like that) or reflected her character that much.

And yes, Tifa is a very beautiful woman, I have no shame in admitting that. And the remake's design in my opinion is a great example of updating a design for a modern time while keeping the spirit of the original intact. There really shouldn't be any issues, but there's always something on the internet that has them.

Basically, I'm saying there's way more to her than a giant rack. For 20 years I've heard about how great everything about VII was amazing, especially the cast, and here we are, talking about Tifa's rack in 2019. C'mon, this Mako Reactor ain't worth blowing up.

@DerMeister agreed 100% her new design is amazing even better than her Advent Children one in my opinion

Still a handful so it's all good.

Why do I get the feeling I'm never going to stop hearing about this now?

Not sure about that sinister-sounding "Ethics Department," though. They sound like the sort of people who would put a bag over my head and disappear me in the night after I made a tasteless joke in public.

Perhaps Tifa's original breasts will be a pre order bonus

Eh if it really bothers me I won't buy the game I'm not sure if I want it all that badly.

Don't worry guys maybe they are saving her original breast size for the royal edition or DLC

They just wanted to save money on jiggle physics

Be interesting what they do with yuffie

@naruball missed my point entirely, didn't you? Not surprised.

@ApostateMage depends how big your hands are 😁

@ronb44 Simple the Japanese market is shrinking traditional consoles are on the decline. The West has some different ideas about some stuff. And its not fun too hear but a good company sells their stuff towards the customised market they are stelling it too.

@DerMeister The prorder stuff is way worse materia as a preorder bonus. You get Carbuncle with the most expensive version and the Deluxe gets cactuar and Chocobo chick....

And i 1000% agree Tifa is awsome as a character yes she looks really beautiful. But i know im going too get flack for this she has a great personality kind, supportive, upbeat yes i like her better this Aeris/Aerith.

@Flaming_Kaiser you probably will get flack from some but you wont from me

personally i always though Tifa was the better character of the 2 and my best mate always preferred Aerith but we respect each others opinions

i just wish people online can do the same, it's OK for people to have opinions that differ to yours or mine but what's not OK is to attack others for it

if everybody thought the same the world would be pretty dull

Part of the problem with this hot potato topic is the actual coverage. Look at what has been written by both Eurogamer and Pushsquare

In reality the ethics department reduction thingy was one thing done amongst many. The biggest takeaway from the interview was the group who will follow you around throughout the game and it's not even mentioned in the article. Other important points are the fact you can more or less play the game in typical jrpg fashion, new enemies have been added, you can make conversational choices etc. Yet the only articles are about tifas breast reduction - honestly this is ridiculous.

Well thats fine. She still has pretty sizeable breasts and they stayed true to her proper look.

Some women have big boobs. Deal with it. -shrug-

Oh lord, way to misinterpret Nomura's quote, Push Square. You just had to add fuel to the fire for the people "worried" about her breasts size. He said "RESTRICT", which means stop it from moving, ie stop them from flopping all over the place. That's why they mention the tank top. It's already been proven her breasts size is still the same as her old school official renders/drawings. The only people complaining about her breast size are those that took fanart/hentai drawings as official representations, lmao.

@themcnoisy i think those watchmen of fate things are part of Sephiroth or his "will" you know like Kadaj, Loz, and Yazoo from Advent Children

@Slotho Nice too hear that you did some checking. But even if they a little bit smaller who cares. And if you are a female fighter i can totally understand that you go for a good sport bra. In the MMA you dont see the women with flopping breasts.

So no woman shaming but just realism.

My girlfriend looks uncannily like the Aeris character model which has led to a few laughs between us but as a big breasted girl she finds it funny that this is even a story

@QualityGeezer it's just people trying to stir up trouble where there is none, part and parcel of the internet sadly

@FullbringIchigo The movie made me like her even more. Because it even showed even more how much of a great personality she had.

@Fullbringlchigo it's only objectification when it's about women lol

@Flaming_Kaiser the novel expands on her character even more (yes i brought the novel)

So...we were less ethical in 97? Not that she needs unrealistic bewbs but she had the same combat style back then.

Makes sense, Zero Suit Samus had a breast reduction as well and I think it makes sense given that these are extremely athletic characters. If you look at real life athletic women, they tend to have smaller busts. Tifa's chest is still a pretty good size and I imagine the "orthopedic underwear" is still in the game in some form as a joke about her breast size. SE has been slowly dialing back her breast size anyway to make it easier to take her seriously. SquareEnix may have worded it wrong though, as it sounds like they're trying to say large breasts don't exist. Other than how they worded it, I'm fine with this.

on a completely different note, looking at her redesign can anyone see where her Materia would go?

@Nyne11Tyme i think it's more to do with the graphical and game play style in the remake rather than what her move set is, she runs around and is a lot more athletic in the remake

@Onion yeah i think we have to take translation into account here, it's possible how it was translated isn't what he actually meant

Who expects a brawler to fight with melons on your chest? That's what it feels like.

So G.Nelva from Twinfinite says that 'refers to the tightness and design of Tifa’s clothing, not to her chest size'
Possibly some gross misinformation going on but that's just the usual.

You know, some things that are actually unethical in reality might include... carrying around a sword the size of a snooker table, having a gun for an arm, blowing up a power station and, hmmm, summoning a giant meteorite to kill everything on the planet to become an evil god.

I hope the ethics department have removed these disgraceful elements from the game too. I don't want children playing this and thinking it's okay to do things like summon Knights of the Round on people just because they have different political views.

They actually didn't say that they reduced them, they said they restricted them. Like, she's wearing a sports bra so they don't bounce all over the place, which makes sense considering she's fighting. Sports bras also make them appear smaller as in real life.

So there is no reason to buy this. Just play the original. I couldn't enjoy this now knowing it is a sanitized for snowflakes version . I hereby refuse this.

Everyone knows how unethical breasts are.

What did this department even bother with? I don't see much difference from the designs of Dissidia 012 and Last Order/Advent Children era. The ship in question, much like Lara Croft's, has sailed - together with the low polygon counts of Gen 5 CGI.

@Matroska that was good

@JJ2

Seems like a bunch of bad journalists are looking for clicks from the incel mob and are running with it regardless. Props to twinfinite for the good work.

Wow, so it wasn't Sony's fault for once.

@Ryumoau For once? their has been Some instances of Company's Self Censoring their own games Capcom Censoring R Mika in Street Fighter 5 and Netherrealm with Mortal Kombat 11 To Name a Few

Watches from window as mobs with torches run through the streets

@Matroska She wears a sportsbra now how unethical. 😆

@FullbringIchigo Never knew there was a novel.

They're remaking the game in a realism style, of course they have to make her breasts a realistic size. This isn't something that needed to even be commented on. I wouldn't have even questioned it if I hadn't seen an article about it like this.

@Heavyarms55 So as per this realistic style, there's no unrealistic elements like magic, summoning mythological creatures, people taking 60 sword hits to the head without dying, bringing people back from the dead with a feather, and being able to rewind time and try again after dying (aka save points)? Big breasts do actually exist in real life, as odd as it seems, practically nothing else in FFVII does.

I honestly don't mind this, when I saw the footage at E3 I felt nothing but excitement and anticipation for the game, but it is notable how Tifa's physique has been reduced but, say, Barret's hasn't. It's also a totally empty argument to bring reality into something so deeply and widely unrealistic. If they were chasing realism, the first thing to go would be... everything else in the game.

@Heavyarms55
The press report it (loosely), you tube react and counter react, gamers comment , react, over react, counter react, then back full circle to the press shaming everyone for reacting to what was possibly fake news actually.
Life on the internet.

I love her new designed fun bags. :>

smaller breasts are more ethical and big breasted persons should be ashamed?

@Flaming_Kaiser yep it's a pretty decent read if your a fan of FFVII

@Bad-MuthaAdebisi read again.

@Ryumoau Let's blame Sony anyway.

@naruball why, I believe my statement is valid, why would an ethics committee be involved in deciding what is an ethical size of breasts 🤣

@NintendoFan4Lyf

I was literally thinking the same thing at one point, haha. I'm fairly certain Tifa is still rocking D Cups at the least.

@Bad-MuthaAdebisi Like I said, read! It's not about the size. That hasn't changed.

@FullbringIchigo Ill pick it up then. 😃

@Matroska There is a difference between a realism style and a realistic story. Obviously this game isn't set in the real world and there are plenty of fantastical elements. But from a visual perspective it is designed like realism. So it makes sense to adjust character designs slightly to make them fit the updated style.

@NintendoFan4Lyf

@naruball well, yes, it has apparently

@get2sammyb might be worth taking notice of this

https://twitter.com/edfear/status/1141991502769524736