Alternate take: the joycon controllers are comfy and allow you to play in whatever stupid position you want if you use them outside of the grip. The Pro Controller is a mediocre Xbox controller rip-off with an inferior D-Pad (seriously, try playing a game like PPT that makes you commit to your inputs with that thing) that also costs $70 extra.
But, you know, different strokes for different folks.
@kyleforrester87 All cockmockery aside, I didn't use the Joy Cons much. I tried them twice in handheld mode - once for Zelda, once for Mario - and didn't like it. I used them a bit individually, as in I had one in one hand and one in the other so I could slob about on the couch without having to make the dubious effort of moving my hands closer to each other. It was okay, but the buttons are too small and the shoulder buttons are absolute cack. They're controllers that have been designed with another function - i.e. being able to snap on and off of the console - as the primary concern, rather than, you know, control.
I mainly only use them once the Pro runs out of battery and needs charging and my heart kinda sinks whenever that happens. Although I haven't actually played on my Switch since November so it's not exactly a problem.
@Rudy_Manchego On the plus side, most of the colours are fairly garish, so it might be a blessing in disguise.
@Ralizah A worse d-pad than the Xbox one? I refuse to believe such a thing exists.
@Ralizah Oh wow. Incredible. I don't think I've actually used the d-pad on the Pro Controller, thinking about it. I think something is mapped to it for Zelda but I can't remember. I've certainly never used it extensively so I never noticed how awful it was.
@johncalmc They just allow you to access weapons, armor, and runes in BotW, as I recall.
For whatever reason, the way they're designed, unless you press on the very end of the D-Pad, it's super easy to trigger unwanted inputs. Now, pair this with something like PPT and Celeste where inputs very much need to be intentional 100% of the time, and hilarity ensues.
It's a really well-known issue in the Nintendo community. Apparently the Xenoblade 2 Pro Controller does this less, but there have still been complaints about that model, too.
I have no idea how Nintendo, the creator of the D-Pad, managed to be the one company this gen to not provide their customers with a decent D-Pad. The D-Buttons work well enough, but they're still inferior to a proper D-Pad, which is why so many people are modding them.
@Ralizah I can't even remember what the d-pad on the controller looks like. I'll have to have a look when I get home. It's crazy that they can't get a d-pad right, but consoles often come with teething problems. Once they're onto their third hardware iteration of the Switch I'm sure they'll have ironed out all of the wrinkles.
The only time I really use the Joy Cons is when they are attached to the Switch in hand held mode. I have the Zelda Wired Pro Controller but I haven't used it yet, I am sure though it will get plenty of use here once Bayonetta comes out here in a week or so.
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Picked up a Pro controller today. I feel a bit silly for spending £60 on a controller that I’m only planning to use for the Bayonetta games, but oh well. I was prepared to buy a Wii U for Bayo2 once.
Might finally dock up the Switch after work today & get a feel for the Pro controller. I’ve had it for 4 months now & never got around to it 😂.
Something always seems to come up, but I’ll do it today...unless Shadow of The Collossus turns up in the mail.
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I bought a Pro controller last May for Ultra SF II and have ended up using it for almost everything. One of the most comfortable controllers I've ever held. Great for fighters, I'm sure it'll be the ideal way to play the Bayo games also. It's also a great controller for racing games if Nintendo can land some of those. Hoping the Ridge Racer 8 rumors are true.
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@Th3solution 50/50. I use it undocked downstairs or when I'm travelling (Via public transportation before anyone gets snarky) or when I was having surgery (Really.).
Docked in my room, when recording, streaming, whatever else.
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@Th3solution Depends on the game, honestly. Some games I play primarily on the dock (Games like Super Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 are just flat out better on the TV, for a variety of reasons). Some games I've never played docked more than once (Puyo Puyo Tetris was this way for me, as well as Stardew Valley). Some games are perfect in either mode (I played Breath of the Wild every which way, and it was fully enjoyable no matter what mode it was in).
If I had to come up with a number, I'd say 60% of my Switch playtime is spent in handheld mode.
@Th3solution Right now I play mostly in handheld mode simply because the Switch is the console I play when the tv is in use. I have played Mario Odyssey both in handheld and docked but I prefer to play that one docked. Lately though I have been playing Mighty Gunvolt Burst and Skyrim, which both run really well in handheld mode.
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Vast majority of the time I play in docked mode. I feel like most games look better. With Super Mario Odyssey and especially Xenoblade Chronicles 2 I felt like there was a significant difference visually. And in XC 2 the performance is also better docked.
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