@RogerRoger Agreed. It is also a TV show and the narrative has to last for the whole season. For want of a better expression, if it were to blow its load too early, the rest of the episodes would be in danger of feeling inconsequential and hollow.
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@RogerRoger Idk, I'd argue Abrams' boxes aren't empty so much as they can never live up to the expectations people build up for themselves. But that's just me.
Personally I quite like a good mystery box and find that most of the time, the journey is the more important bit. So I'm fully okay with enjoying it for what it's worth along the way but, in regards to The Mandalorian, it does seem like there's quite a bit of interconnected buildup at the moment and I can't help but wonder if it'll ultimately fulfill everyone's expectations. I guess we'll see.
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@RogerRoger@zupertramp I've seen it too may times when tv shows reach the conclusion far too quickly, or go on far too long afterwards. I've watched whole seasons of stuff and thought to myself 'Yeah, this should have ended at the last season.' Fittingly, Abrahams 'Lost' fell victim to this. It is a tricky balance to get right, knowing when to stop when it feels right and not making more just cos it is really popular.
In terms of the episode, yeah that was a great one. Possibly my favourite episode of this season so far.
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I've only skimmed the comments as still catching up The Mandalorian. I've now watched the first 4 and will probably be up to date tomorrow. Enjoying it so far, all the episodes have been entertaining . Almost surprised at the production values with the amount of action scenes taking place, they must really be throwing some money at this.
@JohnnyShoulder I’m at that point with Arrow. The current season I’m on is like really, really bad. I at least have the benefit of knowing that the show apparently pulls it together in the last two seasons but if I was watching weekly then I probably would have given up on it. That definitely fell victim to the ‘oh god, we need to continue the story but we wrote ourselves into a corner’ deal. Game of Thrones is the same, it got too popular for what is essentially based on the ramblings of a perverted old man. They ended up pleasing nobody with the conclusion which is actually kinda impressive when you consider how many people watched it.
@nessisonett Plus with GoT the two writers (or was it show runners, I forget now) got poached by Disney, which is one of the reasons the last season felt rushed and too convenient in places.
@JohnnyShoulder@nessisonett When they were revealed to be doing a new Star Wars trilogy of films I was excited but by the time that fell through I was relieved. Maybe they should stick to adapting other people's work but maybe something that is already finished next time.
@JohnnyShoulder I'm, for the most part, an avid Lost defender but even I agree it went too long. Still, even that was on account of TV shows being planned differently back then, from what I understand anyway. TWD is another example of a series going on too long but it doesn't really have the excuse that Lost does.
@RogerRoger But yeah, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the way they are handling The Mandalorian to be clear. It's like you say, enjoyable enough for more casual viewers like myself who don't really get anything from all the names being thrown around. Lol, I don't know how many times I've had to turn to my wife and ask, "Wait so when is all this taking place again?"
Point is, show is fine but then I also really liked TFA more than any other SW film but kinda got the impression JJ ruined the franchise for "real" fans. (Until Rian came along anyway.) So I was curious how everyone was taking this slightly mystery driven set up. Then again, as mentioned, it is a TV series so perhaps it makes more sense.
I've been up all night and just feel like I'm rambling now so sorry for the long post.
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Okay so I'm all up to date with The Mandalorian. Episodes 5 & 6 were probably the best of the series and lots of interesting stuff coming up.
First off, I had seen stuff that Ahsoka Tano was going to be in it and played by Rosario Dawson. I have very basic knowledge of the character, that she was a Jedi Padawan of Anakin being pretty much all that I know. So I liked how she was portrayed in the episode but can say nothing to how in fits with Clone Wars. I'm just kind of curious where she is supposed to be during the original trilogy, especially as shouldn't Obi-wan and Yoda be aware/mention her? Maybe @RogerRoger can give some insight to that.
On to Bobba Fett. I (and I assume any modest fan) guessed that was him briefly shown at the end of the first episode and it was cool to see him fleshed out in the latest episode. Being a fan favourite despite little screen time in the original films I'm sure his inclusion will be hugely popular but I suppose also something they will have to tread carefully with. It was fun to see him played out as the badass many fans pretty much filled in the gaps and imagined him as.
Okay now the biggy, Admiral Thrawn! Having read and thoroughly enjoyed Timothy Zahn's original follow-on trilogy of stories which created him, I am greatly intrigued how he will fit in. I'm aware Disney culled all the follow-on books from cannon but then also allowed Zahn to write him back into the new cannon universe. I've got the first of those books but have yet to read it but in light of this mention I might try and get on that. In fact I recently repurchased the 'Legends' reprinting of the Zahn trilogy and Jedi Academy trilogy (I gave all my originals to charity years ago) and am eager to get back into them. But I digress.
Basically I think they're doing a great job so far and as some of you have touched upon I just hope they have a clear end point for the story they want to tell and aren't making it up as they go. Also I think it's a good thing that as it's made for a streaming service, the episodes are all random lengths and not creatively bound to fill a certain time frame. I assume this series will be 8 episodes much like the first?
@RogerRoger Seeing as I'm subscribed again I might give the series another go. Maybe I'll make it my breaktime watch at work. If I don't see it through I'll definitely take you up on your offer. I'll let you know.
@BearsEatBeets@RogerRoger I’ve gotta say, I can vouch for the, yes - variable, but overall high quality of the animated series. I have had trouble keeping my focus on it and am only through the first season of Clone Wars. I am not ready to call ‘uncle’ and ask for the abridged list of key episodes, but it’s nice to know that’s an option. 😄
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How am I only just hearing about this now?! Not familiar with Fargo or Legion but believe they are both generally considered good. Fingers crossed with this one..
@BearsEatBeets Yeah both shows are in my top 10, so that could be promising. One thing Noah Hawley does really well is write good characters and dialogue. Hopefully they can do the originals justice, but I don't hold much hope as just like Terminator and Predator they can't seem to get it right with the recent movies.
Does that mean they will be on Disney+ the uk? Hope they don't appear on NOW TV, I really do have a disdain for that service.
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@JohnnyShoulder Yep, Hulu content comes is coming to Disney+ over here on its own ‘adult’ section which unfortunately isn’t XXX Mickey Mouse cartoons but will be all the FX and Hulu stuff since Hulu doesn’t operate in the UK.
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