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DonJorginho

@themcnoisy I agree completely that football wages are insane.

Look at my club's very own Callum Hudson-Odoi, scored a few average goals in the Europa League then sulked over not starting over Eden Hazard, so threatened to leave, and as we were so desperate to keep him, we offered 18 year old CHO a £140k a week contract.

The wages are insane and it puts me off football as much as I used to be, especially when you have injured footballers like Sturridge who have continued to get their wages when sitting at home for 8 months at a time.

DonJorginho

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@JohnnyShoulder Oh I agree, he will need to improve aspects of his game to be a great PL player but has all the qualities Lampard loves, relentless pressing, a proper engine, good eye for a tackle and an amazing passing ability, also is not scared to shoot from outside the box what we lack.

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JohnnyShoulder

@DonJorginho @themcnoisy Yep there is too much player power and agents have too much sway. But it is what it is, it is probably too late to change things now, there should had been a wages cap about 15 years ago. The football is still fantastic to watch, players being on huge amounts of money does not effect that. You are always gonna get a few bad apples like Neymar, but overall I think the players these days are more professional and althetic then they have ever been. Not sure if that would be the case if it wasn't for the money being piled into the game.

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JohnnyShoulder

Man City have been banned from the Champers League for 2 years!

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nessisonett

@JohnnyShoulder Any club that big has a few skeletons in its closet so it was Chelsea last time, now it’s Man City’s turn. They’ll be furious though, the next two years would have been a good time for them to win it.

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Arugula

I agree completely with the wages discussion. It's pretty sickening to be honest. I'm sure I'll always love sport but I certainly don't feel the same way about it as an adult the way I did as a young man. Anytime I hear a contract dispute discussion on the radio I just turn it off.

As far as City are concerned I suppose they know what the rules are and are suffering the consequences. Definitely not the lightest of punishments but it'll show who the mercenaries are. By contrast I think the Astros in MLB's sign stealing scandal basically got away with it.

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nessisonett

A mixed bag for UK teams tonight. Good news for Wolves and Man Utd fans but Arsenal got pipped right at the 119th minute which has got to sting. I’m heartbroken about Celtic being knocked out by Copenhagen mostly because Rangers went through last night, it’s bloody typical 😂😂

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themcnoisy

@nessisonett I think it's time the prem had a merger with Scotland. Get Rangers and Celtic starting in the championship or even league 1. Then another 12 teams spread into league 1, 2 and the conference. I understand why it hasn't happened yet (we have 3 out of 6 votes in world football rules as home nations) but it should happen.

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nessisonett

@themcnoisy I dunno, the Scottish leagues have a lot of historical significance and I worry that Celtic and Rangers would just get swallowed up by the bigger leagues. No European football would be a big loss because let’s be honest, they’re not finishing in the top 6 in the Premier League but it wasn’t even 10 years ago that Celtic got to the quarter finals of the Champions League. They both need proper competition however, the other teams aren’t catching up this century so it’s definitely a question to be posed.

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BAMozzy

Celtic have won the European cup - although not since the late 60's. Its clear that the Scottish League is not that and struggles to bring in and keep the 'biggest' players. Its almost a stepping stone to bigger things. Its been a 'two team' league - reduced to one for a while for years. Over 100 of the League seasons have been won by Celtic or Rangers.

However it has a LOT of history and it would be a shame to see the Scottish League(s) swallowed up in a 'British' league and by having its own separate thing, it does give them big European nights on a regular basis - even if they are not as successful as teams from England, Spain, Italy and Germany.

I don't know what the answer is. I think part of the reason Celtic and Rangers can draw the players they do is because they regularly offer European football even if for some its a chance to sell themselves. They also win domestic silverware on a regular basis - its like going to PSG or another very dominant team in a 'weak' league. I don't think it would be in the Scottish leagues interest to merge with the English league. They would lose their own cup competitions and reduce the chance of European football. If it was merged, I can't see UEFA giving those places to the 'British' League but giving an extra place to Italy and/or France for example. Places are allocated based on European results and Spain, England etc get more places because of their success - not just winning but even teams that get to the Semi-finals get 'points' for example and that determines how many teams in Europe we get. England gets 4 right now but we were close to losing that 4th spot to Italy a few years ago. Success in recent years have given us a decent points haul but if we go through a period of not getting through the group stages, failing at the qualification stages, we could lose that 4th place - if other countries consistently reach the latter stages of all European competitions.

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JohnnyShoulder

@themcnoisy Yeah not gonna happen.

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themcnoisy

Nations League Group D2 is amazing. I've had a soft spot for both San Marino and Gib for a long time. Looking forward to this one. Anyone know about Liechtenstein?

San Marino
Liechtenstein
Gibraltar

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nessisonett

@themcnoisy That sounds like a really fun group to watch. I’m a bit iffy on Scotland’s group, Israel again and Slovakia and Czech Republic is a pretty hard group. A lot of long flights too.

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JohnnyShoulder

Still do not understand or see the point of the Nations League. Apart from Sky to charge us to watch international matches. These all used to be friendlies that used to be in terrestrial tv.

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nessisonett

@JohnnyShoulder I think it’s just a way to make friendlies mean something. Obviously part of that is to make money 😂😂

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themcnoisy

@nessisonett hard lines. I'm hoping Scotland have a rebound when it comes to producing players, Andy Robertson is obviously a class act but after that I'm not sure who else could get into a Great British 11. James Forrest maybe as a sub. Used to love watching Scottish footy back in the early 90s. The quality was as good as the English league.

@JohnnyShoulder I quite like it. Gibraltar vs San Marino may not be the greatest game ever. Yet they have a good chance of having a relatively even international game. Depending on what happens I quite fancy going to the game at Gibraltar, been a few times but never to watch a game. As @nessisonett mentioned, Scotland group isn't great but imo have a better chance of getting a few wins with teams at a similar level.

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nessisonett

@themcnoisy Our two best players are left backs 😭😭😭

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nessisonett

@DonJorginho I assume you’ll be chuffed then 😉

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DonJorginho

@nessisonett Very chuffed mate! Was a superb counter attacking masterclass from Chelsea as we shut down a pretty strong Liverpool team.

Billy Gilmour is the Scottish Iniesta.

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JohnnyShoulder

@DonJorginho Klopp has been criticised for not taking the cup serious enough and fielding a weakened team. sigh

Personally I thought the teams were quite evenly matched when I saw the line ups, Chelsea had a few more older heads on the pitch. A more inexperienced Liverpool side did beat Everton's first eleven in a previous side, but people seem to disregard stuff that goes on before.

But we'll done Chelski, they were the better side on the night and fully deserved the win.

It's officially a blip for us, just wish it happened after the league was tied up.

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