Topic: The Movie Thread

@FuriousMachine That's the word 'snap', those ones.

@Scottyy That sounds like a newer Ghostbusters movie I saw years ago, I never watched another modern one again. It was dreadful, I turned it off before the end. It was all female Ghostbusters and what I thought would be different and interesting felt entirely insulting and cheap. I haven't seen another movie like that since and don't want to. I understand balance when it's there, it wasn't.

@Scottyy

is this not a taste of role reversal? Is it not simply satire? 😭 your response does show how it works as satire, at least.

Satire: the use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics, and other topical issues.

So the fact that you think it is stupid here shows that; it has always been stupid that our actual society works that way, putting one sex above another

Analyse what you see in the movie, and then think how the opposite is exactly how the world was, and still is, for women.

Not everything is attacking you as a man, it is just attacking the ideals of a society that we live in where it is acceptable to see women in this exact way (dumb, inferior, awful)

The way of thought (in actual real life!) is that women are just silly little accessories playing their role in a man's world and need to keep their ideas and thoughts to themselves. And the fact that the men are now portrayed in this way (in a piece of entertainment) shines a light on how silly that is as a concept, no?

I agree some modern media really struggles to use satire well, or is just badly written and awkwardly clunky when trying to do so. But this seems like a fairly simple example of effective role reversal where your reaction perfectly mirrors how women have felt (n real life) for the longest time 🤷‍♂️

@Ravix I would go for Dark City so you can experience those inky OLED blacks before the evenings get lighter. I've heard decent things about the Minority Report transfer.

@FuriousMachine I had to do a double take on your double header there... how much can you get through in one weekend? If you end up watching The Adjustment Bureau, watch out for a blink and you miss it appearance by Pedro Pascal.

I saw that Nuremberg the other week and it wasn't half bad. Usually with historical films I eventually lose interest, but this I managed not to get distracted by anything, which is a sign I'm not really into it. Top cast too.

@JohnnyShoulder @FuriousMachine interesting take on the double Dick (Phillip K)

I think I had forgotten that Paycheck was indeed a Dick adaption. But maybe subconsciously I thought about it pairing well for that reason. It's not the best movie, but I do like it. I'll have to grab it on Blu-Ray as I doubt it is a candidate for the 4k treatment.

Minority Report has been consumed. It really is a top 4k! And the reports were correct, Shoulder. It looked brand new apart from the occasional blurry CGI. But even some of the CGI looked pretty decent. I don't know how they did it with this one, as it was a very unique looking movie, but some of the scenes were so remarkably crisp and clear that it took me out of the moment to just gawp at the detail. It also retains a nice fine grain that is never distracting. It is a really good transfer! I'd recommend it, for sure. And it's a really good movie, which helps!

I'd also forgotten how many weirdly funny elements the movie had, at times it went full on comedy out of nowhere 😭😂

@JohnnyShoulder I did absolutely not knowingly phrase it that way in order to make it look dubious. I resent the implication, sir!
And these were my thoughts on a pairing with Minority Report, which I myself have yet to obtain, so I will be sticking to gaming for the most part (though I must say I think a re-watch of The Adjustment Bureau is about due).

@Ravix You put into words thoughts my brain really wanted to, but struggled to assemble into coherence and I think you hit the nail on the head quite rightly there. I applaud you

@Ravix You just spoiled Barbie for me, it's okay though I had a feeling that whatever was behind the tag wasn't majorly life changing because it's only Barbie but that might point to why it's banned here (UAE) and back home. I tried to watch it last night and it was a no go. I'll watch it when I'm back in England.

The way of thought (in actual real life!) is that women are just silly little accessories playing their role in a man's world and need to keep their ideas and thoughts to themselves.

• It sounds like you plucked that right out of my real life.

And the fact that the men are now portrayed in this way (in a piece of entertainment) shines a light on how silly that is as a concept, no?

• That sounds like my real life if it was flipped upside down. I see why it's banned where it's banned now. It feeds directly into what Tjuz was telling me about sexism, I didn't even know what the definition was. Now I'm not sure if I should watch it after all. I just know that Ghostbusters movie was awful. You know me quite well, do you think I should watch it or probably just leave it be? I don't want to clash too hard with already established ideals. I thought it was banned because of the colour pink, I never inquired. I was only told I can't watch it. Now it's starting to make sense.

@GirlVersusGame aha, apologies it was the bit I wanted to quote.

And yes, haha, I realise it may seem like bizzaro opposite world for you specifically, or that i'm against that choice, which I certainly am not.

So yeah, it is just a movie and some satire, and I don't know if you should watch it or not. I think you are capable of deciding for yourself (wink) but the point isn't that men are stupid, it's that seeing women as stupid is inherently stupid. Both women and men can be stupid, and of course both can be smart. We know this. And that's all equality ever is. Everyone can be whatever they are or want, or assume any role that suits their own sensibilities. But society as a whole shouldn't stop people that want to do something different.

I think you are smart enough to know that a satire about role reversal is just that, so I think you'd be fine with it. Whether you like it or not os another matter. And I also agree the Ghostbusters remake was sh**. To me it just seemed modern, stupid and not funny. So I didn't make it through that. I just thought it was pretty annoying as a movie and i'm not even an original ghostbusters fan

@GirlVersusGame

Yeah, it's the laziest form of writing when you show "dumb males" to make your female character superior. A good writer shows a great female character without needing to dumb down the males around it. A lot of examples in media for that kind of writing too. One of the modern ones came to my mind is Katniss Everdeen.

@Ravix No it's fine, you solved a big mystery. I was going to watch it last night after it had been mentioned and I was told no so I went back to Infinite Wealth. I said to Tjuz a couple of days ago that it's ridiculous to ban a movie because a man wears pink, I'd been pondering over that for a couple of days. Now it makes a lot more sense and backs up everything you said. I don't understand satire to be honest, it flew over my head a lot of times in different articles. Sometimes it's lost in translation, other times it's cultural or it depends on knowing or having experienced current or modern trends. You worded it in a very relatable way, it's been interesting to mix with another culture, Tjuz included. You see things differently. What you said carries a lot of truth, especially regional. I was raised with Barbie and still collect them but I never thought I'd be told I couldn't watch a movie based on that same franchise.

I've never been seen as stupid per-say, except by one particular Person. I know that much. But the rest 'accessories playing their role in a man's world and need to keep their ideas and thoughts to themselves', I've been told that word for word more times than you swung a sword in your games so I get it. The last time being less than a week ago, maybe four days. I probably even said the exact same thing to Tjuz when he explained normalization. I don't know if that's what they were fighting in that Ghostbusters movie? I just saw the whole thing as sacrilege but timing is everything, so who knows. It's interesting how a movie about plastic people can raise such a conversation. When I was talking to KidRyan about Spiderman I didn't tell him that I knew very little about Spiderman because gender-wise it wasn't available to me. Neither was Batman, now I'm making up for it. I can see how that might not be a world that you'd want to live in. I didn't at first until I started to read your various replies etc. It would be like if a boy wasn't allowed to play Infinity Nikki or Horizon Zero Dawn or Tomb Raider because they have female protagonists. I don't think you'd want that, but that is the thinking in some places/lives.

Either way I'm due another cheesy bad eighties movie of some sort. I didn't want to derail anything, you hit on something very relatable but you probably knew that already. I need to switch devices again, offline MMA fight time.

Another picture of Sophie Turner on set as Lara, apparently reason for this outfit is because she just did a sky dive! I'll echo my thoughts when it was first announced, I think she looks great as Lara but still on the fence for how well the acting/charisma will be.

@Oram77

I don't like the casting at all but I admit shee looks the part with the first pic and now here. I don't believe I will care "her" Lara at all but hope she proves me wrong. I hated Sansa in GoT so some of my prejudice might relate to that too. In fact I didn't like any of the Stark children other than Rob.

I watched Return to Silent Hill again to try to untangle the mess of a plot/ending etc. It's just so awful I can't say anything good about it other than whoever decided to include Air on the G String by Bach understands good music, they used it three times throughout the movie. Everything else was as bad as my first viewing, maybe worse so since I could use even more of an analytical eye/pause etc.

https://letterboxd.com/film/bugonia/

Better than I expected. I really loved how it keeps you on your toes about who is telling the truth and who is the crazy one. Both leads were great and really convinced as their characters too. I would end the movie when Emma Stone came out of the swampy pool, that would be a much better ending than the rest of 5-10 minutes of "dark humour"; it cheapend the story to me. Still, I guess I liked this more than both One Battle After Another and Sinners. I plan to watch a couple of more nominees.

4/5

Also https://letterboxd.com did a really cool thing for this movie when you review it on their site. If you use the site(If you don't as a movie lover, kindly WTF are you waiting for!!??) you should experience it yourself but if you don't here is what happens when you review this specific movie:

@GirlVersusGame

Even though I read how bad it is everywhere I still want to see it in cinema 'cause I finished the og game for the first time last summer. It is still fresh in my mind and I am curious at least from "how they put this thing" perspective.

@Scottyy The face on the poster looks like it's reacting to me watching Return to Silent Hill twice, it's actually kind of funny. If you love the games you'll hate the movie. It's amazing how they managed to take so many endings and points in the game, chew them up and spit them out like a bird feeding it's chicks. But really worms are worms. It takes more from the second game than the first including whole lines of dialogue and recreating scenes, but they look like they were recreated with about a five dollar budget. In America some people turn their garage into a haunted house for Halloween, that's what the set looks like. If you can play the second one try to get through it before the movie, if you watch that movie before playing the second game it will impact how you eventually experience the game and spoil almost every ending the game has. They combine them in the movie and in a really bad way.

It's impressive how badly they managed to ruin the opportunity, and I say that having seen every Uwe Boll movie. He made most of his video-game movies to exploit the German tax laws which allowed donors to write-off income taxes in box-office flops. That translates to a half a million return on every one million invested through distribution rights alone. I've said it before there is money in failure, that's one example. There are other ways too, you just have to understand the region of production and the region of distribution, they filmed in Germany and Serbia for a reason. I understand Serbia very well, they didn't have to make a good movie. If anything it propelled them to go even more low effort. You'll see the result.

@Scottyy Thanks for posting your thoughts on so many movies and tv shows, but I was wondering if it was any way you could make the images a bit smaller when posting? I'm reading the site on the web and those images come crashing right into my face when I read these threads

@GirlVersusGame

I already played the 2nd one last summer. Og version. So I am mostly curious about that and how they put the things. So funny to read your thoughts, looks like they did a terrible job. We will see. And yeah, I know Uwe Ball era of bad movies. He is an *****. Thankfully we are way past those days. 😃

@FuriousMachine

Of course, I will be careful about that.

@GirlVersusGame Sorry to hear that you didn’t enjoy ‘Return to Silent Hill’. I wasn’t expecting much from it but didn’t think it would be offensively bad. Gans is a more than capable director. I can’t bring myself to watch it in the cinema.

@FuriousMachine

My 4K of Lawrence of Arabia has finally arrived this afternoon. The US import I originally ordered never showed. This is a standard UK release, that came out today, and that I had on preorder for about six weeks.

So, I know what I shall be doing tonight.

My collection is now virtually complete. I would like to try and get hold of some of the BBC Natural History documentaries, for the sheer reference quality visuals.

@Matthewnh Congratulations! Happy you finally got it. I would guess some of those gorgeous BBC docs would truly shine with the format, but I'm not familiar with what's out there. I think I saw "Planet Earth II" with a 4K logo on it in a store somewhere, so I guess there are at least a couple that's released on physical?

@Scottyy Thanks, mate, appreciate it

Woohoo! The biggest theatre chain in Oslo update their weekly showtimes every Tuesday throughout the day, so I tend to snoop around their website to see if there are any "early" ticket drops.
Today I hit the the jackpot, as the still-as-of-now unannounced showing of Tarantino's 4hr 35m re-cut of the Kill Bill movies, The Whole Bloody Affair went on sale and I got my favourite seat in that theatre (which is far from my favourite theatre, but they are only one of two - that I know of - in town equipped to screen 70mm films).
So, ten days from now, I will attend my second Tarantino movie on 70mm - the first being The Hateful Eight - and I'm insanely excited for it.