WAS awesome. RPGs are one of a handful of genres which have gradually gotten better each generation. Of course some games are timeless - I would never have a bad word said about Super Bomberman!
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PS3 Megathread 2019: The Last of Us
Multiplat 2018: Horizon Zero Dawn
Nintendo 2017: Super Mario Bros 3
Playstation 2016: Uncharted 2
Multiplat 2015: Final Fantasy 7
@themcnoisy RPGs maybe...JRPGs, much less so. In fact, bar Xenoblade Chronicles I don't rate any JRPGs as high as the PS1 era FF games, and they certainly haven't evolved a great deal in the past 20 years.
The overworldy graphics (Mainly just the freaky arms if I'm honest) are really only a minor nitpick of mine @kyleforrester87 (Cloud and co look great in battles) my main gripes were the story, characters and such
As I said to Frigate I ended up enjoying The Legend Of Dragoon (which I played a year or so AFTER FFVII) so I'm not that shallow about the graphics! Especialy seeing as I like to revist the PS1 and 2 😅
Well I can't really say if the FF series properly went downhill after that @Tasuki as I like X, X-2 & XII and the only others I've played of the series are III (which I like), IV, The first disc of VIII, XIII & XIII-2.
I only played that demo of XV but I absolutely hated the combat.
But regarding The Legend Of Dragoon...
Yeah the voice acting is so bad in the CGI bits and the translation is just as bad (maybe even worse then FF VII) but I found the world, lore and characters were so much more interesting the FF VII.
Not to mention the combat was more engaging and it had some great battle music!
Not to mention some good themes too like the one for Seles
@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy I don't know about you, but if everyone's raving about how good something is my expectations tend to go into overdrive and I'm inevitably disappointed lol. It's one of those things, you just have to accept you're in a minority sometimes. I can't understand what people see in the Uncharted games but it is what it is I guess.
@LN78 The series, in my opinion, is just not that fun the play, the stories are boring and the characters are generally annoying and I don't relate to them. As I say, I accept I'm in a minority.
@LN78 Your taking my point to the extreme for some reason - of course I can understand why they might like it in the context of it being "a huge mega-budget Indiana Jones style adventures", but then if I was so inclined I could also say Indiana Jones sucks and I don't understand why people like him or the movies either, plus mega-budget means soulless over produced junk, and this would be an entirely valid opinion.
Do you have a stinky foot fetish? Do you understand why hundreds of thousands (?) of people do?
I know you understand what I am trying to say, and are just being a bit awkward, and I'm fine with that
Oh that's definitely no doubt a factor too @kyleforrester87 , hearing all the praise about it for twenty or so years before finally getting round to play it definitely didn't help.
I have no doubt that it was revolutionary for the time (Particularly us Brits as it was the first Final Fantasy game we got) and can definitely understand why people love it so but it just didn't set my world alight sadly.
I've only played Uncharted 3 of the series.
... It was ok I guess. Some nice set pieces like the plane in the desert and the ship but to be honest I barely remember the story at all...
Haven't even played The Last Of Us.
No doubt I'll probably only think that's ok when I eventually get round to it
@LN78 Well I hope my poor explanation made some sense then. I can say the same thing about the Star Wars movies, I honestly think it’s total rubbish, of course I can understand why people like it, but then I question why they might rate it higher than other franchises which I think are much better. That’s where my lack of understanding on the matter comes from.
To apply that to Uncharted, I can’t understand why people prefer them to the newer Tomb Raider games, which I think are fundamentally better.
@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Yeah, Peach is a boss in Mario Bros. 2 (which is certainly better than the real SMB2, which is so difficult that it ceases to be any fun to play). I don't know if you've ever heard of Super Mario 3D World on Wii U, but it's a co-op enabled 3D Mario game, and Peach actually returns as a playable character with her floating ability intact!
RE: Mario Galaxy, it's no exaggeration to say that it's the game that made me passionate about gaming again after the seventh console gen almost killed my interest in the medium (my two favorite genres on the PS1/PS2 were survival horror and the JRPG, and both were withering on the vine and being replaced by boorish Western action games, which had a tremendous effect on me). It was also the first major Nintendo game I'd seriously engaged with since playing the NES as a child, so it functioned as a sort of induction into a new gaming world that I'd pretty much ignored until that point (with the exception of Pokemon games, which I was a huge fan of, even as a Playstation devotee; I pretty much owned my N64 JUST to play Pokemon Snap/Stadium/Hey You, Pikachu!/etc.).
No doubt I'll probably only think that's ok when I eventually get round to it
You're not missing much if you're not hugely impressed with heavily cinematic games and/or you've ever read/watched another post-apocalyptic drama in your life and are familiar with the tropes.
@kyleforrester87@LN78 I love the Uncharted series, but I can’t seem to catch the passion people have for The Witcher 3. Perhaps I tried it at the wrong time and I do intend to try to get back at it one day, but I was expecting a transcendent experience that made my life complete, but after 5 or so hours I got distracted away. Maybe expectations is a big part of the issue. I guess we all have those weird mental blocks for games that the populace adores but we can’t quite understand the allure. Undertale is another one of those for me (reminded about this game in the indie article today). I can’t wrap my head around why that game has such a cult following.
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I find myself easily distracted away from most games - rare to find something that really gets it's hooks in if I'm honest.
Regarding Undertale only ended up playing it as my daughter asked for it last Christmas - I think it came along at the right time. Before people started to tire of the 8-bit look and the sharp writing coupled with deceptively simple gameplay were a bit of a surprise. It's quite a nice game really.
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I have heard of 3D world... In hindsight @Ralizah I should've realised that's why it's called 3D World... as World was already taken! 😂
Huh... seems to that point we had quite a similar relationship with Nintendo up to that point with the Wii!
Though I only got an N64 a few years back just for Pokémon Stadium, and the neat Special edition Pikachu N64 for £30
I found Witcher 3 to be pretty good @Th3solution but not completely jaw dropping like most do. The combat is a bit lacklustre but it's got some great writing!
Which is kinda how I feel about Undertale as well. Good but not great. Undertale has great music as well though
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@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy I too tried to play the Witcher 3 multiple times and I do not see what the big deal is. People rave that the characters and story are next to none but I never saw what they meant. Basic boy chases girl story with characters with as much emotion as a potato. Each to their own.
I couldn't get past the 1st half hour on Undertale. Did not hook me in.
I've got 60-70% through Witcher 3 a few times and can't stomach anymore, most of your time is spent chasing way points in a straight line. I guess I could have messed with the options in that regard.
I completed Undertale (the "first run" anyway) - I didn't understand the praise either, couldn't be bothered to try again!
@Kidfried Console JRPGs may not be quite up to the heights of their late 90s/early 2000s glory days, but, considering how thoroughly gutted the genre was last gen (as were pretty much all genres I enjoy: God, I hated last gen), I consider the way they've rebounded nothing short of a miracle. It's part of the general resurgence of Japanese home console gaming the last few years.
Too bad S-E is still apparently incapable of making a normal, decent Final Fantasy game.
@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Yeah the music was amazing for Legend of Dragoon, and the combat was unique especially with the timed hits and such. It's one game I wish they would remaster, but I know they never will. Which is why I kept my copy and my PS3. 😁
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You know playing through Final Fantasy 8 Again made me Realize that this is the Final Fantasy Game They Should have Remade As Aside from Final Fantasy 5 This Game doesn't get much love Also Their is Alot of Stuff about the World And Characters That could be Expanded upon
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