Topic: PlayStation 5 --OT--

@LtSarge There’s no need to worry about having PS+ for transferring your saves across. Whatever you have on your console is really easily transferred during the setup process; done most quickly if you have an Ethernet cable to connect the consoles together.

I went from a base PS4 to the PS5 and the difference was amazing. I played Ghost of Tsushima before the dedicated PS5 upgrade (via the directors cut) and it was fab already as it built on the PS4 pro features even more.

Some people dislike it but I think the DualSense controller is great too. It’s a bit meatier than the older PS controllers which took some getting used to but now I really like it. Adaptive triggers and haptic feedback are great when properly utilised in PS5 games.

@LtSarge I think most people have chimed in to get you covered, but I will say that I played a few PS4 titles on both my vanilla PS4 and then on my PS5 and there was substantial improvement of the overall experience on the PS5. I’m no techie so I can’t speak to the numbers but there was notable benefits in frame rate and load times.

I played the first half of Mass Effect 1 on my PS4 via the Legendary Edition and then played the last half of it on PS5. It was night and day as far as load times and I’m not sure what the frame rate is on PS5 but I think it was 60 vs 30 on the base PS4. The other game was Last of Us Part 2, which was similar — the game looked great on PS4 but when I transferred my save over and played the second half on PS5 it was so much smoother and even more beautiful at 60 frames.

So those are two examples for me where it was a base PS4 game (although in the case of TLoU2 it has a PS5 patch) which performed tangibly better than on my PS4.

The downside is that a PS4 game doesn’t benefit from the haptics and adaptive triggers of the DualSense so I actually like the feel of the DS4 controller, but you can connect your DS4 to the PS5 if you really would rather use it on those games.

@LtSarge There's really not a whole lot left to add, but I will say good luck if you do end up taking the plunge tomorrow (today technically). I have a handful of issues with the UI, in particular Sony forcing the Activity cards on us as part of an update last year, essentially taking away the game artwork and replacing it with a screenshot in some games. I know that may not sound like much, but it's unnecessary when the Activity cards are right underneath the play button anyways, and I like the game artwork rather than the activity info and a screenshot. The Games page has also been unreliable pretty much since launch, but the latest update where they added your playtime to the Home page for each game may have finally fixed that. Your playtime for a game would sometimes not register properly, with it sometimes not registering for multiple days. I have had 0 issues over the last week or so.

I know that may sound like I am frustrated with my PS5, but that's not the case. Obviously I would like those two things changed/ironed out to make it an even better experience, but overall I have been very pleased with my PS5. The load times are a significant advantage, and obviously 60 FPS as an option for a lot of games is another nice plus. The included stand isn't the greatest, especially if you are planning on having it horizontal since it only is screwed on if you have it vertical, but it is what it is. The PS5 isn't perfect, but all in all I'd still recommend getting one for sure.

(Will reply properly to you guys once I have more free time)

So I bought a PS5 today. They only had the GoW: Ragnarok bundle but I figured I just want to get a PS5 so I didn't mind paying extra even though I already have the game. I might sell the code to someone later on. Anyway, the setup went smoothly and I didn't have any issues getting everything to work. Luckily I had a month of PS+ Premium and noticed that the service does actually have some PS5 games, including Returnal and Demon's Souls. I decided to give Returnal a try since I'm rather interested in that game.

Holy **** this game is awesome! I've had my Series X for over half a year but nothing has made me feel like I was playing a next-gen game. PS5 manages to make me feel that in just an hour from setting it up. The way the controller is used while playing the game is brilliant. The triggers are like two buttons and I love how they can lock up. The graphics are phenomenal and the idea of a third-person rogue-lite experience is great. I don't mind dying, the game is just so much fun. It just feels overall like a game I couldn't play on my PS4. I'm glad that I gave it a try and now I'm going to go order the game so I don't have to keep subscribing to PS+ Extra in order to play it. I'll be checking out Demon's Souls next and I'm sure I'll enjoy that game as well.

I haven't even checked out Astro's Playroom, but I will in due time. I just wanted to check out some games beforehand so that I can order them in time for them to arrive before the weekend.

Not to mention that I feel like I want to play more of my PS4 games now that all (or most of them) run better on PS5. I can finally start up titles I bought on PS4 such as Spider-Man Miles Morales, Sackboy A Big Adventure, Gran Turismo 7, Kena, Sifu as well as third-party titles like Final Fantasy VII Remake, Control Ultimate Edition, Assassin's Creed Valhalla and so on. There are so many games that will run better on PS5 that I'm glad that I waited to play them.

One issue I have with PS5 is its small storage. Having just under 700 GB really sucks, but that's why I'm glad that I have a Series X and also my PS4 for the extra storage space. I genuinely don't feel like upgrading my hard drive after having spent almost €800 on a new system.

All in all, I'm absolutely in love with the PS5. I love it so much that I regret not buying it instead of the Series X. Some may recall that I was rather disappointed after buying the Series X because I didn't have anything new to play on it. The PS5 has that in spades with titles like Returnal, Demon's Souls, Sackboy, Miles Morales, Gran Turismo 7, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, Horizon Forbidden West, Stray, God of War Ragnarok and more. Jesus Christ I'm going to buy so many games for my PS5. I want to play everything on it now lol. I haven't been this excited about something gaming related in forever! Absolutely fantastic system!

@LtSarge Glad you are enjoying Returnal! You mirror my thoughts on how next gen the game feels. The 3D audio is probably the best I've experienced also.

The PS5 uses compression technology to reduce file sizes, so you will be surprised how much you can fit on the HDD. I hear that the price of the memory cards has dropped a bit recently, which I'm led to believe is not the case with the options available for the Series consoles.

@LtSarge Glad you are enjoying your new toy. I've had mine since day one and have always been a ps plus subscriber but upgraded to Extra last august as there was enough content that I hadn't played. Returnal, Death stranding, Ghost of T, Demons souls (played the PS3 version previously) Miles Morales so I certainly got my monies worth within a month or two.
I really enjoyed Returnal despite being very unsure of it prior to playing and even after I started playing, after a particular run was cut violently short I did select Delete Game but when asked "Are you sure?" I just couldn't do it as I love HouseMarque but it was a very close call.

TBH I don't particularly like the subscription model but do think PS Plus extra has been awesome so far.

@LtSarge Great to hear you’re having fun

Returnal is my favourite exclusive so far I think and it really does get quite addictive. The audio is great too, especially through headphones with the 3D audio. Having the community on here discussing it so much really made the game even more special too for me.

It also utilises the adaptive triggers really cleverly, as does Ratchet and Clank so have fun with that one too when you get it!

And definitely don’t overlook Astro as it’s a fantastic little platformer and is brilliantly nostalgic for the whole of the history of PlayStation.

@LtSarge Oh, oops… I read your the other thread first but I see you actually tried Returnal and have experienced it’s awesomeness. It’s probably the hardest game I’ve completed but one of the best gaming experiences in recent memory. The dedicated thread has some good advice scattered throughout. I will say that the first boss is a huge stumbling block, but once you get past that, it’s a little easier, although there’s plenty of difficulty spikes afterwards. Still, the first boss was the point at which I was tempted to quit the most, but after that, it’s hard but you really want to stick with it because you know you can do it if you keep trying.

I'm trying to learn how to upgrade physical PS4 games to the PS5 versions and I'm really struggling right now. Miles Morales is obviously one of those games, but I can't seem to find anything on the menu that will let me upgrade it. I even installed the game and it told me in-game that I could upgrade it on the hub but there's nothing there. Is it because of my PS+ Premium subscription that's somehow ruining it because the game is also available on Extra?

@LtSarge Normally everything is hidden behind the "..." menu option. So from the Miles app on the task/game bar, select "..." and there should be a PS5 option, select that and download.

@CaptD That seemed to do the trick, but at first I thought it meant I was downloading the game separately through PS+ Extra. As I'm downloading the PS5 version, it's showing up with a disc symbol next to the name. So I'm guessing that if my PS+ Premium runs out, I'll still be able to play the PS5 version as long as I have the disc in my system.

@LtSarge Yes the disc icon means it is linked to your disc and that is required to play, this is to stop you selling the disc on and using the ps5 version. Annoying but makes sense.
If you select it and the disc isn't present then it will say insert disc. It isn't tied to your PS+, that would be denoted by a PLUS in your library (far right on the app bar).
You can also select Install from the Extra catalog if you wish and there would be another license on your machine but the disc one will still be available. Sony recently changed things so it won't do another download if you do this. However it probably isn't worth the effort for Miles as it is a short game.

PS. Be sure to delete the PS4 version that you installed as you don't want that taking up precious space.

Enjoy the game, it is very good.

@CaptD Thanks for the explanation, I appreciate the help! It's been rather confusing but I think I get how things work now.

@LtSarge No probs, happy to help and it is confusing but I was thinking the other day that a smart delivery system on PS5 wouldn't work, mainly because of PSVR1 and that you need to run the PS4 version even if a PS5 version exists.
But yeah it does trip up quite a few people which is why I think Sony starting plastering PS4/PS5 next to the game icon so people now exactly what they have selected.

Hey everyone! Has anyone heard about Ubisoft lately? I haven't played anything from them in a long time. It seems they were only working on Valhalla for a while and then nothing... One less AAA studio out there?

@RenanKJ A quick Google search brings up the following.

Skull & Bones
Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora
Assassin's Creed Mirage
Tom Clancy's The Division Heartland
The Settlers: New Allies
The Crew Motorfest

So far from dead, but they have been quiet recently.

@LtSarge Regarding Miles Morales, it is true that the PS5 polish adds a lot of enjoyment and extra pizzazz to the experience through haptics, better visuals and performance. But beyond that, the game is just a better paced and more focused experience in my opinion. I really like Spider-Man, but MM is another level because it doesn’t mess around with pace-breaking puzzles and stealth sections.

@LtSarge I actually don't mind the size of the icons. I get the complaint, but it's been something I've been able to shrug off. I don't believe you can change anything with the inputs.

If Sony would have just let some of the UI alone, mainly the forcing of the Activity Cards being something they should have never done, it would be ok at least. I will likely always prefer the PS4's UI, but some little things they've done have helped (like making the Explore page much more useful by adding Friends and Trophy info on it). The Explore page was completely useless at launch.

We can agree to disagree on the stand. Not to sour you on it, but the main problem if you have it horizontal is that it's easy for the stand to just come right off the system if you move it. Vertical it's functional, but even then it could probably use a second screw. Nothing major in the end obviously as it serves it's purpose. It just could be better.

@Th3solution I actually didn't mind e.g. the stealth sections in the first Spider-Man. It was a nice change of pace for me, but that's obviously not how the majority sees them.

The side content is still uninteresting, but the story is great and I like how different Miles is as Spider-Man compared to Peter.

@KilloWertz Yeah I definitely prefer the PS4's UI as well. I just miss the bar above the games, i.e. the one you get when you press the Home button on the main menu where you see who's online and such. It was better on PS4. Having to press the Home button to access it is rather cumbersome instead of just pressing up once.

I tried to see if I could put my PS5 vertically but it's just so damn tall, it doesn't fit anywhere on my table that way. But it does look better vertically in my opinion.