@willi3su I think it’s pretty subjective tbh mate… it’s kinda like everyone seems to find different From Soft bosses more easy and more difficult than the next person.
@willi3su cool, since I already ’own’ bloodborne via ps plus collection maybe I’ll start there knowing that elden ring is designed/ intended to be less frustrating though not necessarily easier
@godofwarj5 I'm not good at all at From Software games, but I still relish the win when it does happen and it happens for me because I way over level a boss to where my many mistakes won't kill me. So it is doable, even for non get gud players like me. Just an FYI. As long as your having fun the games are good.
I started with Bloodborne. An early boss, Father Gascoigne, is the wall - fighting him teaches you to play the game. The same with the Pursuer, an early boss in Dark Souls 2.
Anyway the games seem disgustingly hard but they are really not, but there is an initial hump to get over. Once you get into the swing of it things you often hear people complain about stuff like loosing vast numbers of souls which doesn’t really tend to happen much, and when it does it doesn’t really matter, and long walks to bosses - 9 times out of 10 it’s easy to sprint past everything to get back to the boss when you die.
I did struggle to get into Souls after first playing Bloodborne, but it wouldn’t have been any easier the other way round tbh.
@godofwarj5 I started with a few hours of Dark Souls 1, then fell off it because I didn’t really understand it and didn’t have a community to fall back on to help me through the early hours. Fast forward a few years and I played Bloodborne and finished and loved it with the help of Push Square folks and I’m now playing Demon’s Souls and loving it too. So as a relative newb, I can say that the games are certainly achievable if you have a little support and don’t mind getting advice or guidance online and watching YouTube videos when you need help with a boss.
“Easy mode” for Demon’s Souls does seem to be the magic build, which I’m doing right now. I’ve struggled certainly from time to time (my recent posts over on the DeS thread shows me in full frustration mode after playing The Ritual Path) but overall it’s been quite reasonable with the magic to decimate enemies from a distance.
“Easy mode” for Bloodborne was running past most of the enemies in the opening areas to get to the bridge where you can fight the first boss and unlock the ability to level up, then grinding the opening area over and over and over again until you get slightly overpowered. Then periodically finding good grinding places throughout the game to just spend a few hours and level up until your overpowered again if you start to struggle. With just patience and time, along with the internet, it’s not impossible.
I actually said this recently on here, but for me who likes to make these games relatively “easy”, I think I’m going to have to wait to play Elden Ring later, until the online guides and videos can become commonplace. If I played it blind on release then I’m worried I might be frustrated.
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Early on I ll make my way to Castle Mourne we saw in GI footage and try get that sword from the boss. Looks like the type I like and then level up to meet the stats and possibly invest in that sword upgrade.
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Easy mode for all Soulsborne games is just grinding while you're listening to podcasts and then once you're overlevelled brute forcing the game. There's hardly any bosses that can't be taken out that way, from memory, so if anyone is really in trouble that's an option. Or summoning, of course.
But honestly, if anyone were to struggle with these games I would just say stick with it and you'll get there. The legend of Souls games difficulty is vastly overstated and for most players once the bewilderment and frustration of the first few hours is over with it's fairly manageable. You'll get there, eventually.
Another thing with Souls games is that it can sometimes be discouraging when you're getting annihilated by an enemy only to Google it and discover that everyone thinks that boss is really easy. A thing people need to remember with these games is that your play style and build and what you're comfortable with will dictate which enemies you find most difficult to deal with.
In Bloodborne I was stuck on Vicar Amelia for about eight hours, but most people don't think that's a hard boss, whereas I beat the final boss on my first try and a lot of people consider that one difficult.
The only From game that I would say is genuinely, really tough is Sekiro because you can't really do much about that. There's no traditional levelling system and so you have to just kinda learn it. The last boss in that game is ludicrous.
@Th3solution I’ll probably be in the same camp waiting for the game a while before diving in. If I hold out till after GoW ragnarok, elden ring will probably be well documented and even might be on holiday sale
@velio84 That’s good to know; if/when we ever get this rumored remaster and I replay it that sounds like a good way to kickstart the game.
@godofwarj5 The other good thing for those of us who are still somewhat new to the genre is that we have lots of other options to play if we want to scratch the Souls itch in the meantime. Once I finish Demon’s Souls, I’ll be okay for a while but I also have Dark Souls 3 in my backlog and DS1 and 2 can be picked up really cheap. I also picked up Code Vein for cheap a long time ago and want to eventually try that as an ‘anime Souls game.’ I also have Moral Shell, Lords of the Fallen, The Surge, and even Nioh as ‘Souls-like’ games in my library from PS+ that I could venture into if I got desperate. 😅 I’ve avoided playing these since I figured it best to spend my limited game time playing the actual From output first.
One exception though — if you have any interest in Star Wars, I often recommend playing Jedi: Fallen Order as a nice intro to Souls-likes. It has difficulty slider to make it more approachable, but combat and set-up and progression is very Souls inspired.
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@Th3solution I agree with so many "souls like" to also scratch that itch. I would however avoid Lords of the Fallen. It is poorly done and will just create more frustration. Jedi Fallen Order is my favorite non From Software souls like game. Of course being in the Star Wars universe helps. I just wish the light saber acted more like a light saber than a flaming baseball bat. I see why they did it that way though. Other top souls like games for me were Surge 2 and the nioh games.
As far as Elden Ring I believe it will be even easier due to the openness. Something gets to hard go around it. Besides the usual grind to be OP, you can also ride around and find pick ups before taking on anything too hard. I'm not saying the game itself will be easy, but there will be more ways to make it easier.
For PC though - it was a bit tricky deciding whether to get it for PS5 or PC but in the end I settled for PC (my PS5 is a "family PS5", used by myself, 3 kids and my wife on occasion - whereas my PC is pretty much just my PC)
@velio84 I think I’d rather see a review from somebody who likes those sorts of games but isn’t a hardcore From fan. Otherwise it can sometimes lead to reviewers not being quite as objective as any other game.
@Th3solution My Bloodborne experience echoed yours, it was my first From Software game, and it took me a while to beat Dark Souls Remastered after that, I beat Dark Souls 3 in between the two, but yeah, all time, and patience, it only adds up.
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@velio84 yeah I’m gonna play it after Horizon Forbidden West too… think a lot of PlayStation players will end up doing the same. Think we may see the player base of Elden Ring on Xbox dwarfing that of PlayStation until everyone’s cleared Forbidden West.
I’ll absolutely be waiting for Elden Ring, and getting Horizon 2 after. I’m quite looking forward to Horizon actually, but it can wait. And maybe even until after Gran Turismo.
@velio84@nessisonett Just to let you guys know, I'm reviewing Elden Ring for the site.
And what nessisonett said, "a review from somebody who likes those sorts of games but isn’t a hardcore From fan", is basically me. I love the Souls games and Bloodborne, but I really didn't get on with Sekiro. I'm hoping to revisit it in the future, but that won't happen soon. So I really like these sorts of games, but I wouldn't describe myself as a hardcore FromSoftware lover or anything.
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