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GameCollector84

https://www.dualshockers.com/the-official-playstation-page-on...

TL/DR: Sony accidentally leaked that they are releasing 3-4 more games to Steam.

I feel like this is Sony just betraying the PS fanbase. Jim Ryan is taking PS in the same lackluster direction that Microsoft went in last gen. I'm thankful I haven't bought a PS5 yet, because the way things are going I'll be able to play all PS games on my PC.

I'm just not ready for every non-Nintendo game console to be little more than a gimped PC. At least Nintendo has portability and a lot of exclusive games.

Long term, Sony could make more money by keeping their games exclusive to PS5, which would cause PS5 sales to go up, which would in turn cause people to buy more PS5 games. And we all know the revenue from 3rd party royalty fees is what console makers, really make their money from.

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nessisonett

Let’s be real, how many of the ‘PC Master Race’ would buy a PS5 anyway? This way, they’d buy the games, play them and it’s not like PS5 players would miss out. I just fail to see the downsides.

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colonelkilgore

@GameCollector84 nothing as multifaceted as PlayStation simply equates to something else (in this case the Xbox one) simply because of one of its numerous aspects bearing a passing similarity. Even the similarity you mention is vastly different, in so much that yes Xbox one exclusives went to PC (Xbox one had hardly any decent exclusives) and yes now some PlayStation exclusives will go to PC (& if the recent announcement of over 25 exclusives are in development, over half of which are new IP’s, taken in to consideration with Sony’s track record of exclusives it’s quite different to the Microsoft output from the previous gen) but they are actually in stark contrast... apart from the fact that yes ‘some’ will go to PC. There are numerous other areas though where the PS5 will be nothing like the ‘lacklustre’ Xbox one.

Yadda yadda, the sky is falling, #Jim Ryan out, yadda yadda... etcetera etcetera.

Edited on by colonelkilgore

I ain’t ever met a souls-like I didn’t like!

GameCollector84

@nessisonett

Hardly any master race types would get a PS5. But there's plenty of gamers out there that owned both a PS4 and a PC, that will be skipping PS5 due to this. Also a lot of people that owned a PS4 and will jump over to PC due to this as well. Why? Because people are going to play on whatever platform gets them the most quality current gen games. And for gen 9 that platform is going to be PC.

Now, I would agree that most casual gamer's don't care about PC and will just go for whatever console they like best. But there's definitely 10 to 40 million hardcore gamers out there that would have bought a PS5 this gen, and will skip it for PC.

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Voltan

Honestly I’d argue that number might be closer to 10 than 10 million 😉

Voltan

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@colonelkilgore

Yeah that's Sony's one saving grace. Their games may be going to PC, but at least they still have good studios putting out quality games. But then again, MS has bought a lot of studios for the upcoming gen, and is threatening to buy even more.

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nessisonett

@GameCollector84 I have a PC and a PS5. PC doesn’t have the DualSense, doesn’t play 4K Blu-Rays, doesn’t always run games to a stable standard. While PS5 doesn’t play a lot of older games, doesn’t have an internet browser (not that I would use it), emulators and so forth. They’re two very different propositions. And different prices. I have a PC because I need one for uni work. It also plays games. People choose platforms for many reasons.

Edited on by nessisonett

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GameCollector84

@nessisonett

Dualsense is a defective product that breaks easily. Don't even get me started on that. I guess for cinemaphiles like you having a 4K Blu-Ray player is worth it. But doesn't PS4 already do that? I would assume you already had a PS4 before buying a PS5, no?

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colonelkilgore

@GameCollector84 yup but whatever Microsoft does ‘this’ generation has nothing to do with the “lacklustre direction Microsoft went in last gen”.

The way I look at things is this, will PC players being able to play Sony first party games negatively affect my enjoyment of them? No it will not.

If Microsoft FINALLY get their act together and start to produce some genuine quality first party games, will it negatively affect my enjoyment of Sony’s first party output? No it will not, I would consider buying my first Xbox since the 360 though.

I get frustrated by what I deem to be an imbalanced view of the console landscape these days... I think MS has currently done NOTHING to warrant their apparent media darling status of late, while I think Sony have rolled out an impressive new gen with the PS5 yet are being pilloried for it. BUT just because I feel frustrated by what I deem to be an injustice of mass perception doesn’t mean that if/when Microsoft does get their act together, that I will not congratulate them on it and possibly/probably engage with it (but not at the expense of abandoning PlayStation).

Edited on by colonelkilgore

I ain’t ever met a souls-like I didn’t like!

nessisonett

@GameCollector84 No, the PS4 just plays standard Blu-Rays. Don’t get me wrong though, I love my PC and the freedom it brings being outside of a closed ecosystem. But PS5 is a rounded product for £450 and people who want simplicity would still buy a PS5. I just don’t get your argument here. Would Sony stop making PlayStations? No, they wouldn’t. If they, the business with more sense than you who pay analysts to do this very thing, have decided that releasing their games on PC is a good move, then I’d be willing to trust them. The minute that this looks like a bad idea, they’ll stop.

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TheFrenchiestFry

Honestly I really don't care.

I play a lot on PC but I already know if I didn't get a PlayStation for these games I'd potentially be waiting years for them to get PC ports, and by then the next game in those respective series would've either been announced only for PlayStation or potentially even released.

PC getting these games isn't going to hurt the sales potential of PS5 to the extent people are dramatizing it will because there are still a lot of people who prefer the simplicity of console gaming over how modular and kind of complex the PC experience is, even if the games will naturally look better given you have the right setup. Not everyone wants to deal with those factors who aren't already acquainted with PC gaming well before all this. Same with Xbox games coming to PC as well.

If God of War PS4 comes to PC the same day Ragnarok comes to PS5 it's not the end of the world and I'm not losing sleep over it. Sony isn't ditching PlayStation or betraying them. The console is still the highest priority of their business but they've realized they can leverage more by tapping into another, more neutral market. This isn't on the caliber of bringing their big first party stuff to Xbox or Switch or anything. PC gets a little bit of everything all the time. PlayStation exclusives were even coming to PC well before Sony started supplying the platform with content.

With that being said Bloodborne and Spider-Man or I riot

Edited on by TheFrenchiestFry

TheFrenchiestFry

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GameCollector84

nessisonett wrote:

@GameCollector84 Would Sony stop making PlayStations? No, they wouldn’t. If they, the business with more sense than you who pay analysts to do this very thing, have decided that releasing their games on PC is a good move, then I’d be willing to trust them. The minute that this looks like a bad idea, they’ll stop.

The thing is that modern CEOs are often forced to prioritize short term gains over long term losses. Stockholders expect instant results these days, and if they don't get it the CEO often gets ousted.

A great case in point is the release of those faulty PS5 controllers. They don't care if a faulty controller hurts the brand long term, because in the short term they make more money by replacement controller sales.

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colonelkilgore wrote:

@GameCollector84 yup but whatever Microsoft does ‘this’ generation has nothing to do with the “lacklustre direction Microsoft went in last gen”.

The way I look at things is this, will PC players being able to play Sony first party games negatively affect my enjoyment of them? No it will not.

If Microsoft FINALLY get their act together and start to produce some genuine quality first party games, will it negatively affect my enjoyment of Sony’s first party output? No it will not, I would consider buying my first Xbox since the 360 though.

I get frustrated by what I deem to be an imbalanced view of the console landscape these days... I think MS has currently done NOTHING to warrant their apparent media darling status of late, while I think Sony have rolled out an impressive new gen with the PS5 yet are being pilloried for it. BUT just because I feel frustrated by what I deem to be an injustice of mass perception doesn’t mean that if/when Microsoft does get their act together, that I will not congratulate them on it and possibly/probably engage with it (but not at the expense of abandoning PlayStation).

Yeah, I would absolutely love for MS to finally get their act together. Unfortunately they seem to think moneyhatting 3rd party games into exclusives = building a brand. Bethesda and other games being "Console exclusive" to Xbox does nothing for me. Now, if The Initiative actually puts out a good Perfect Dark reboot, and if Xbox gets several new IPs with critical acclaim (that aren't from former 3rd party studios) then I'll be right there with you in congratulating them.

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colonelkilgore

@GameCollector84 if Sony are anything, they are proactive over reactive... and what I mean by that is, there is an incredibly small chance that they would ‘react’ to an easily led general public buying into an imbalanced media spin, when in reality the PS5 is the fastest selling console of all-time during a time when production of which is severely compromised due to a shortage of the semi-conductor’s that are required to produce them.

Reality is often overshadowed by fallacy in the minds of the masses (who for the most part have never been engaged and merely pass comment and are not integral to the community) but not in the minds of the shot-callers.

Edited on by colonelkilgore

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nessisonett

@TheFrenchiestFry Yeah exactly, people forget that Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy VII were being ported to PC well before all of this. At arguably the height of PlayStation’s golden age.

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TheFrenchiestFry

@nessisonett And if we're going strictly off of modern PC titles like on Steam, both Nioh games and stuff like Journey were on PC pretty close to when they came to PlayStation initially. This isn't new at all. It's just new for first-party stuff specifically but Sony's been super chill with second-party for years

TheFrenchiestFry

PSN: phantom_sees

nessisonett

@TheFrenchiestFry Death Stranding was only about 8 months later too. Which I think would probably come under second-party.

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colonelkilgore

@TheFrenchiestFry @nessisonett @GameCollector84 where as on team green Microsoft Fight Simulator is available on PC and has been for almost a year yet is still to release on Xbox... to quote Training Day’s fantastically charismatic Alonzo Harris “... this ****’s chess, it ain’t chequers!”

Edited on by colonelkilgore

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nessisonett

@colonelkilgore Man, Flight Simulator’s amazing. Although it’s a PC series through and through so honestly didn’t really expect it to go to Xbox at all.

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colonelkilgore

@nessisonett well it is going as far as I know (& yes I have heard, while niche it is very good) but my point is that while Sony second and now first party games might also go to PC after a period of time... it is still not like for like with how Microsoft do things.

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