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BAMozzy

@Kidfried "As of yet we haven't heard anything that'll make this game special. No reason for this big of a hype if you ask me."

This is a sequel to a loved game of last gen, a game of the year winner and made by the studio that also made one of the biggest selling games ever. People were 'hyped' by a trailer for the Last of Us 2 with just a trailer because its a sequel to a well loved game of the year game. People are hyped for Death Stranding just because its Kojima's next game so I really can't see why you struggle to see why RDR2 has a LOT of hype. Even when RDR came to Xbox Backwards Compatibility, it had almost as much hype and excitement as a new release - at least amongst Xbox fans.

I bet if Half Life 3 was announced, even with no game-play or cinematic trailer, people would be hyped just because its Half Life. When big games, especially Game of the Year titles, get a sequel, there will be hype. Cyberpunk had a LOT of hype and anticipation long before any game-play was shown too. Its not as if Rockstar churn out games every year either so when they do release a title, its usually highly anticipated...

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Kidfried

@BAMozzy @Tjuz You have to understand that within the context when it was posted, which was a few months ago. With what we've seen now and understand of the game it is pretty hard to go back anyway.

Those first three trailers were pretty weak.

(By the way, RDR2 is not made by the same studio as RDR1.)

Kidfried

kyleforrester87

@Kyroki I'm not "hyped" for this, but it's absolutely clear it's the much better, more progressive openworld game than Spiderman, in my opinion.

So yeah, I'm gunna get this, and I'm probably gunna love it.

kyleforrester87

PSN: WigSplitter1987

Tjuz

@Kidfried My reply was definitely not meant to belittle your earlier comments if that's how it came across, especially since I saw yours was months old. I was just stating how I felt about the game after seeing the most recent trailer.

Tjuz

Kidfried

My comment was only by accident reacted at you @Tjuz. My bad. But I didn't feel anyone belittled my comments or anything. So, all's good, all's good.

The most recent stuff is slowly convincing me too.

Kidfried

Th3solution

The reason I loved RDR1 was because of the story, the protagonist, and the unique (at the time) open world. All the online mumbo-jumbo was okay, but not what made it great. Here’s hoping that they focus on the narrative and keep a strong story as the backdrop or I’ll be disappointed, no matter how well fleshed out the open world and online integrated gameplay is.

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

kyleforrester87

@Th3solution the story in RDR was ok overall, it had moments of greatness but was weak in areas and also pretty disjointed (which I expect RDR2 will be, too, give most open world games feel this way and GTA5 was pretty bad in that department).

What really kept me playing if I'm honest was the little things, like the great music, fun and engaging gunplay (I spent ages just shooting birds out the sky) and the beautiful night skies.

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kyleforrester87

PSN: WigSplitter1987

Th3solution

@kyleforrester87 The ending I guess is what escalated the story for me. I know that RDR is not the only game where the protagonist dies at the end, but the way Marston spent the game trying to clear himself of his dark past, protect his family, and was caught in a no-win situation made the impact of his demise so strong to me. I had really connected with Marston and I felt the ethical struggle within. When he dies defending his family it really left me speechless. Then the epilogue where you get to play as his son and gain revenge was just the exact closure I needed.
So my concern is that RDR2 seems to be just all about being an outlaw and creating havoc for mischief’s sake. The only motivation for killing and plundering is just because you’re a criminal. That doesn’t interest me at all. I hope I’m wrong though and that Arthur is actually a well developed character with some sort of moral compass at least. I’m all for creating chaos in a game and shooting things up, but I have to be able to relate to the character at least a little bit. Cuz, ya know, I’m not actually a jerk who will rob, steal, and plunder for no reason 😋
The trailer does allude to the fact your decisions affect the world, so hopefully I can be that “virtuous criminal” (how’s that for an oxymoron 😆) like Marston, Kiryu in Yakuza, ...Robin Hood, etc.

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

Kidfried

@Th3solution @kyleforrester87 Even though you don't fully agree, I agree with you both. I thought RDR was a great game, mostly because it had some great moments.

There were also a lot of dumb moments. Some main missions didn't develop the story at all, some main missions were very poorly written, some dumb jokes and of course there was a lot of padding. But, enough great moments to make this a classic, and ground breaking game.

I hope the writing and structuring of the main game is better in this one, but we'll wait and see. Also, share @th3solution's concern. In RDR1 the gang of Dutch is described as this no-virtue gang of mischief. So, that is looking like the concept to this one. Of course, maybe they've thought up something genius.

Kidfried

Tjuz

@Kidfried Haha, okay. No worries. I had a feeling that was the case but I felt like I needed to reply just to make sure!

Tjuz

BAMozzy

@Kidfried The point I was making though was that some games, regardless of how little is known at the time, will automatically have a LOT of hype surrounding them. Death Stranding for example had a LOT of hype just because its Kojima and Last of Us 2 automatically had hype the moment it was actually revealed - again a long time before anyone had seen game-play, no idea of story etc. Its also no different from hype surrounding Elder Scrolls 6 either without knowing anything - just because its an Elder Scrolls game.

If there was an announcement for Agents of MAYHEM 2, I doubt very much that anyone would be excited and, if anyone was interested, I bet they will want to see game-play and find out what, if anything, was being done to improve the game from its original.

The team that made the original Red Dead Redemption (which wasn't the first game in the franchise anyway) may not be 'solely' making RDR2 as this is being made by ALL Rockstar Studios collaboratively. As I said, its also a follow up (even if its a prequel, not a sequel) to a Game of the Year winner, one of the generations best selling and for many, one of, if not their favourite game from that era.

I know Cowboy games are not everyone's favourite genre and RDR was limited a bit by the technology of the day. A lot has changed in 8yrs - not just hardware but also expectation from open-world games - things like side quests and activities not being 'fillers' but meaningful. Some people can't get into big open world games either because of time limitations for example or find that the less structured approach to story telling affects the flow. By that I mean its not a constant narrative progression like linear games and getting side-tracked by quests, activities doesn't help either for some people. I know I struggled to remember where I was in in the main story in some games - especially when my gaming time was more limited - it could be 'weeks' before I try and pick up the main story again in some games.

I do understand why some may not be 'hyped' and I can appreciate that not everyone will be interested in RDR2 but I totally understand why there was and is a lot of hype surrounding this - even before any real information or game-play was revealed. Its no different from people being hyped for Last of Us 2 when all we had was a reveal trailer. Its telling that the industry as a whole are fully expecting the game to be something 'special' and avoiding going up against it - even CoD, which always releases in the first week or two of November, moved their schedule forward to release before RDR2. I am not a fan of GTA (not anymore) but I would still expect their to be a LOT of hype surrounding GTA6. It would be easier to understand if people were questioning why Death Stranding had so much hype considering its a new IP and even now, its not exactly clear what the game is actually offering - its got hype purely because of having Kojima's name attached to it. Games like RDR2 have a legacy, its a follow up to a game of the year after all and is often in lists of the best games of the generation.

I admit that Game-play trailers are not always great in showing how things - other than visuals - have improved or what it offers that we haven't seen before. The information that has been provided alongside these though does make it seem like they are setting new benchmarks for open world games. Spider-Man may well have been 'good' and got hype because its 'Spider-Man' but the open world and game structure is very last gen - whether that's a criticism or not is down to the individual but its not pushing gaming forward or innovating. Again not a criticism unless you think that every game should innovate - even if what they do do, they do well. Gaming hype can be generated from the legacy of prior games (sequels to favourite games, game of the year winners, etc), from Development studios/developers (Naughty Dog, Kojima), characters (Spider-Man, Batman, Avengers) etc so any sequel to an award winning title, games from well loved/respected developers, games with iconic characters etc will have hype before any game-play or much information is revealed - whether it appeals to you or not.

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kyleforrester87

@Kidfried the title of the game still has Redemption in it, so I think the main story will consider that aspect and give us something worthy of Marstons arc, if not perhaps hitting the same highs I think (or hope) it can be at least more consistent.

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kyleforrester87

PSN: WigSplitter1987

Kidfried

Can not wait, y'all. Yee-haw! Hm, ahem.

Unfortunately I just found out the physical edition comes without a map I found out today. Still, not in the least less hyped. Just hope the game holds up narrative-wise.

Kidfried

WanderingBullet

@Kidfried Do you mean the standard edition? Cause the map is included in both Special Edition and Ultimate Edition.

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Huntin' monsters erryday.

Kidfried

@WanderingBullet Yea, the standard. If the extra content was worth it or it had a soundtrack included, I might have considered the special edition, but as it stands... I'm not paying 20 euro extra for a map.

Kidfried

WanderingBullet

@Kidfried I see... I don't really care about the map myself. I just wonder if the digital contents are worth the additional $20.

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Huntin' monsters erryday.

Kidfried

Apparently the soundtrack features some great artists: ARCA, Colin Stetson and the Bolts drummer.

RDR's soundtrack was one of my favorites of all time, hopefully this one too.

Kidfried

andreoni79

@Kidfried @beemo Maybe the standard edition will have a cheap paper map instead of the "exclusive" one they announced for the special edition, that could be similar to the one included with Skyrim.
BTW, the very same map will be downloadable in few days and printing it on canvas or special paper would cost just few dollars...

Praise the Sun, and Mario too.

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Kidfried

@andreoni79 I hope so!

Have any of you ever turned down appointments or took a day off because of video games? I was just looking at my calendar for the next week and something terrible struck me. I have work and social obligations from this Thursday evening (earliest possible game release) until next Monday ever day from morning until bedtime, so I won't be able to play this game at all until next week. Such a bummer!

I really need to get better at this planning thing, whatever that is.

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Kidfried

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