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Ralizah

So, I did 2/3rds of a new playthrough to get the Survivors trophy, and now I'm doing the same thing AGAIN for that trophy where you have to kill Connor off at every available opportunity (thankfully, this one will be shorter because I can just kill Kara and Markus off and skip most of their chapters in the second half of the game). Also, I need Hank to shoot Connor, so it's kind of fun just being a total jerk to him after sucking up to him so much in my first playthrough. Feed me your hatred, Hank!

After that, I have only a few trophies left that I'll mop up with a final playthrough of the last few chapters.

I've played through these chapters so many times at this point chasing trophies, though. I feel like I know the game like the back of my hand at this point. I'm both impressed by the scale of the plot differentiation in this game and honestly kind of sick of hearing the same stuff over and over at this point.

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MightyDemon82

@Ralizah i beat it for the first time yesterday i lost connor but survived with Kara and Markus to have a peaceful solution to the androids being free! Definitely playing through at least one
More time.

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Ralizah

@MightyDemon82 Lost Connor how? You can't really lose him since replacement units are sent out any time he happens to die.

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MightyDemon82

@Ralizah the end of the game the little evidence i had i messed up trying to trick the android that jumped off the roof after the epic chase earlier in the game so he was decommissioned by cyberlife for not cracking the case.

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Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy

Ooopphhh! That's some dedication there @Ralizah !

I did the same with Until Dawn bumping everyone off, making sure they survived... But I couldn't be fudged in getting the plat. Too much faffing about in having to replay it again and getting all the clues I missed πŸ˜…

Glad you've enjoyed yourself with the title overall though! If I recall correctly this is your first David Cage/Quantic Dream game?

I've heard weird things about the Xbox/PS2/PC title Fahrenheit (Indigo Prophecy in the US) Plus of course Heavy Rain and Beyond: Two Souls are just as weird in places so I've heard

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Ralizah

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Honestly, a second single playthrough wouldn't be bad at all. I've seen the last half of the game, in particular, like three or four times in full now. It is a nuisance, although once I get this current trophy done with the others should be relatively smooth sailing, so I'm kind of invested at this point. I doubt I'll be able to finish before leaving, unfortunately.

Yeah, this is my first QD game. I hear the others aren't nearly so expansive or ambitious in scope and, honestly, after spoiling myself on Heavy Rain thanks to the prominence of certain glitch videos online (apparently you can get the main character to continuously, hysterically scream the name of his son through the entirety of the game's climax, which is as absurd as it sounds), I probably won't even bother with that title. I've heard very mixed things about Beyond: Two Souls as well, so that'll probably be something I play when I have nothing else to dig into (read: probably never).

I can't deny my enjoyment of this game, though. I wouldn't keep playing it over and over otherwise. It'd just be SO much better to replay if certain QoL features were included.

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themcnoisy

So as I game my son and I could play together after turning his nose up at Ff12 we started Detroit today.

What are the developers thinking making you spend so long on Mundane tasks? It just makes you forgot to clean your real life mug out and put a daily load on.

I love Gone home, most of the telltale games and a bunch of point and clicks so I'm at a strange point with David Cage games. There's no fun using the motion pad to shine up dishes, clean away rubbish and pick up objects. Any other game would let you press one button or do it automatically, the continual stop start of the Mundane really drags and I'm only up to the 5th or 6th section.

Quite like the overflow diagrams though.

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Th3solution

@themcnoisy It’s been a while since I played, but I seem to remember the mundane actions do lighten up after the opening sections. Kara’s housekeeping duties is about the worst part, then the things you do in the game become more meaningful. Scene investigations with Connor can seem detailed and repetitive, but the context and problem solving nature make them flow much more interestingly. So yeah, even Kara will play out better pretty soon, so don’t give up.

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JohnnyShoulder

@themcnoisy How old is your son? I wouldn't reccomended this to anyone in their young teens as it deals with some quite mature themes and can get quite dark in some places (and I'm not talking about the brightness lol).

We are now in a world of people being offended for other people who they think should be offended, who arent offended.

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Yennifer

I need to replay this game again soon. Too many games too little time.

Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.

themcnoisy

@Ralizah good on you getting the plat for this game. There's no way it's coming my way! I will discuss why next so obviously spoiler alert comming to those who have yet to finish the game.

I finished my first playthrough - Markus was the good guy all the way through, getting beat up and never fighting back, the kiss with North showed the president the light who called off the attack. Kara ended up with Alice in a tip we sacriced Luther at his request to escape (this was really sad) the recycling centre - damn what a horrible place, evoking the holocaust. Connor initially started as a good guy however this conflicted with how I wanted him to be, as the best and last hope of cyber life I started answering as an uncomprimised android shortly after finding Hamk drunk. This led to Laura trusting Connor in the Japanese garden sections. Hank hated my Connor, dropping him off the Snipers roof which I thought was his ultimate demise. Amazingly the added twist at the very very end of shooting Markus close up - which I did in character as my Connor. Quality.

So it was a very enjoyable playthrough once it finally got going. I started a few Trophies in an effort to look at obtaining the plat via the chapter select (pushing Leo, Markus attacking the police) after these 2 instances, its not how my story played out and didn't want to tarnish what had happened. So that is it for Detroit. The whole thing wrapped up really well and it would be a shame to see Connor become deviant or to see Luther after he died protecting us.

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Th3solution

@themcnoisy I agree that this game (and I felt the same about Heavy Rain) is tough for me to replay because I just feel like my first playthrough ending is the β€˜canon’ ending and I just want to leave it that way in my memory.

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Arugula

@Th3solution That's exactly how I felt and I lost Kara almost immediately, effectively losing around 30% of the tale. However, I respect my decisions and don't want to alter the story and my memory of it.

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JohnnyShoulder

@themcnoisy @Arugula @Th3solution Yeah I was the same with Detroit, but had no problems mopping up a few trophies using chapter with Heavy Rain.

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RogerRoger

@themcnoisy Some of your decisions were very different to mine, but we share the same protectiveness towards our version of events (as do many others, it seems).

I keep seeing this game in my trophy list and thinking "Hmm, should I play differently and go for the platinum someday...?" but then I remember that such an undertaking would have to involve being nice to North, and that simply isn't going to happen.

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themcnoisy

@RogerRoger woah Rog you have to explain that one mate. What happened with North?

@Arugula Ahhh man, you never met the Jerry's. Or Luther. Or Rose. These are all fantastic characters. The interactions with Rose and her son are perfect, I forgot it was a game at that point.

You would have also missed Zlatko in the house of horrors. That place will give me nightmares for years.

@Th3solution I may give it another whirl in a few years once my memory fades. Be interesting to know what you picked.

@JohnnyShoulder Did you get a similar result to me or completely different? A bunch of options were locked towards the end so I have no idea what else can happen.

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BearsEatBeets

This game clearly is the best at having truly meaningful choices and divergent paths. I personally had most of the main 'cast' dead at the end and yet apparently was only a couple of simple choices away from almost all alive.
Kara died at the border so the girl could go through with the human but apparently as Marcus had been pacifist she would have got through if I had merely tried it. If Marcus and North had kissed they would have been saved. And my favourite duo Connor and Hank, well Hank died because he told me not to sacrifice everything for him but again apparently would have survived if I just tried.

It's been a while and I left it on my hard-drive so I'll probably rectify these choices and maybe do a completely opposite play. I like the idea of the getting Connor killed at every opportunity trophy.

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Th3solution

@themcnoisy if you don’t mind a little spoilage for a potential repeat playthrough, my endings were a bit different from yours:
I was able to keep Conner and Hank in good graces until the end and Connor became deviant and defeats his duplicate model. I was able to save Luther, Kara, and Alice and all be together at the end, and cross the border into Canada by sacrificing Jerry at the border. And Markus led a pacifist uprising, stood his ground against the police, was romantic with North, but where I really steered off from the mainstream was at the very end, I got ticked off at the unfair treatment of Markus’s pacifist rally and when they start slaughtering people I triggered the dirty bomb and destroyed Detroit. I forget the percentage but it was like only 3% of people triggered the bomb. I can’t explain my actions and I still feel guilty about that πŸ˜…

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Arugula

@themcnoisy No, never met any of those characters or experienced any of what you mentioned! 😳

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RogerRoger

themcnoisy wrote:

@RogerRoger woah Rog you have to explain that one mate. What happened with North?

Couldn't stand her. She gave a face and, worse, an irritatingly nagging voice to justification of violent extremism; I respect the game for trying to tackle such a tricky subject, but everything about her just made me recoil in disgust. I spent the entire time ignoring her, or disagreeing with her, and having Markus side with Josh (the calm and dignified advocate for peace, North's polar opposite).

It wouldn't have been so bad if playing as a peaceful Markus could've swayed her, and led to a proper debate about different forms of protest, but no matter what I did she kept advocating hatred and intolerance, and gave me a freakin' WMD to use (which I took, but only because I didn't trust her vengeful, closed-minded personality with such power; I knew I'd never let Markus use it). Her intransigence was made worse by the fact that she was positioned as Markus' only love interest, meaning we (playing through Markus) had to compromise on her behalf, not the other way around. There is no way I'd ever wanna see Markus, a character I'd informed and guided, be romantic with... that, so I rejected any personal questions she asked of me.

I mean, kudos to the developers for making me feel an emotion so strongly, even if it is loathing!

Given that you're unlikely to ever replay the game, I'll tell you the outcome of this approach; during the assault on, and escape from, the Jericho tanker there's a part towards the end where everybody's fleeing down a corridor, and North stumbles. Markus has the choice of going back to save her, or leaving her behind to get shot. It was the easiest decision in the entire game for me, didn't even take a split-second to think about it. That was the moment I lost the "everybody survives" trophy.

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