@Ginkgo btw i joined this site when i was using ps3 [BOSTONJOHN32] and im as loyal of sony as humanly possible but im not oblivious to my surroundings nor will i act as i am.
Pixelprov1 is my psn but yes that was a very common fanboy rebuttal , i am a consumer and my loyalty is meaningless so i practice non biased opinions on actually events .
someone mentioned these comments cringe worthy well i suggest looking up what CoD lead had to say about their business practice and how the us military could benefit , then come back here and tell me if you still choose to use the word "cringe worthy" against your fellow consumer or if you stand firm with your choice of word as you "omg ooo ooo i cant wait for the next cod omg take my money and soul". Its cringe worthy to buy another CoD product after they pretty much said they brainwash "US" and then pounce. Its just as cringe worthy how many seem to live in a bubble and have zero care for how their actions or lack of directly or indirectly harms the entire community as a whole but anyways im done here btw thanks sammy for making the article to which im hoping will help get THE conversation started but i dont think so.
Archive and read my stuff in a year Or agree with your fav youtuber if and when they muster up the courage to expose but by then your cries will fall on deaf ears .
Keep encouraging and welcoming this practice and you will get bigger helpings for everyone . One cant deny consumers who paid for drive club got a mess of a game and since no pressure of accountability etc well why change the practice of day 1 messes and patches etc etc. Have fun paying for hd textures and resolutions ala consoles next year ! You are begging for it.
@MoleZandor accountability is often passed like a buck but heres and example of said process being demonstrated on a consumer level. If i hack your bank account is it my parents fault for poor upbringing or maybe my 3rd grade history teacher?If you took me to court Would the judge really factor any of that in being 32 year old adult? Well as consumers we are kinda judge and jury and if the majority feels as you do then no accountability and more important no change in terms of business practice .
@WARDIE also unfortunately many people are defending Evolution and "assaulting" anyone who cries foul, it will happen to you and I here as it grows later in the day
@get2sammyb Evolution did not open beta stress test their servers, dynamic weather and photo mode is not included in my day 1 purchase of my physical copy of drive club, the print on box misleadingly reads that you can play other players on and offline. What ammount of false advert and not fully functional product constitutes wrong doing in your opinion ? Ive seen reprehensive actions taken for "box quotes" alone and im very sorry to spam here but this conversation needs to happen please embrace it and help expose what is happening in general in the industry before its too late >gaming crash>epic jobs lost> Mobile games dominate >digital 100 percent, 100 percent rights lost
@WARDIE im also glad to see someone is aware that downloading psplus version using psn isnt going to be a factor to whether evolution "fixes servers" , as psn is a different infrastructure and is only the bridge to connect to servers of games that offer online play. Its funny how in reviews the weather was "breathtaking "and connection was " instant " but what isnt funny is how many use reviews when deciding to buy a product
@Ginkgo Do you know what the projected sales figure was and what the figure actually is? I personally do not but until you do you cant rule anything out period. I do know that if my sales were halved in comparison to my projected well securing and maximizing sales would be a priority and although evolution isnt calling the shots at this juncture its a plan thats best suited for the suits at evolution due to evolution inevitable downsizing incoming hence tons of funds about to go up in smoke due to major damaged control.
This project seems like it was charted for disaster , no public beta to stress test servers in any event is the consumer accountable here? Lol because you instantly ignored the facts and trying to dismiss wrong doing immediately and thats pure consumer ignorance and denial which is why we get shafted every other release
Sir they knew it would be a bad way to launch a system seller while essentially Forza would begin the boxing match with a 1st round knockdown and although i know that the devs did tweak certain stuff imo not to constitute a year delay. See from a marketing perspective you would want a game to release in a timeframe of max anticipation in this case racing genre and the timeframe they picked was perfect , right when forza h2 and before the crew so basically drawing force from their hypetrain to which is a clever and money effective way to let the desire to play a driving game on a system with lack of driving games while releasing at a time when people are talking most about driving games is a great recipe to help sell a driving game . Hope that makes sense
I know my gramar is aweful but wanted 2 get that up asap using my d4 , sorry.
If you guys think there isnt a bad problem in the industry of gaming due to the lack of exposure well consider that the mainstream journalists and youtube kings livelyhood depends on the very entity it will expose so no it will never happen as that saying goes dont bite the hand that feeds.
We need an outside source to look into the state of the industry , what they have been doing , how it effects the consumer and how his or her rights are jeopardized. Ive taken a peek into what our rights truely are and holy crap its disturbing but what do i know im just some random idiot on the Internet but this random idiot is going to take this to another level rather than post on forums and i suggest you do to OR we can get to the point where weather effects , higher resolutions, online play, chosing characters name etc will come after launch via updates and then via paid dlc
Please dont add salt to the wound evolution , No you are not as frustrated as the consumer as we are the little people who got ripped off but sadly the good people who are low on the totem pole over at evolution will be out of a job very soon while the major players run off w bags of cash because layoffs of the working class seems like the current trend of how the industry choose to clean up their mess after a major heist.
Now who's to blame here? Well initially the development and publisher but at this point its soley on the comsumer myself included because we have been letting these corporations get away w murder and well the moment gaming goes 100 percent digital is when we lose all our rights as well as uber protection for corporations to do as they please without worry of any legal problems etc although they are getting away with theft using every illegal marketing and false advertisement practice while we do have rights, we chose the right to wait and ask for more punishment .
Well no weather effects nor photo mode nor online play day 1 and day 2 and please dont defend evolution because thats part of the problem. Just as you wouldnt buy a car, marketing to have a V8 engine, only to be told sorry you will get that later due to stock issues after buying the car . Would you accept this practice anywhere else? I dont think many would so why with games ?
They are maximizing profitability imo as psplus free edition is the worse marketing decision ive seen in a long time as corporations will opt for us to buy a purchase blind rather than test drive 9 out of 10 times so someone decided to use server problem which worked seemlessly pre launch may i add due to pre order numbers being low as well as target of profitability being way off so yes i believe they are hot fixing to get the last drop of sales especially w the luke warm reviews .
May i add that a game built w social connection etc well at the least needs a public server stress test ala beta but oddly there was none to speak of.
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Re: Evolution Studios: We're As Frustrated About DriveClub Issues As You Are
@Ginkgo btw i joined this site when i was using ps3 [BOSTONJOHN32] and im as loyal of sony as humanly possible but im not oblivious to my surroundings nor will i act as i am.
Re: Evolution Studios: We're As Frustrated About DriveClub Issues As You Are
Pixelprov1 is my psn but yes that was a very common fanboy rebuttal , i am a consumer and my loyalty is meaningless so i practice non biased opinions on actually events .
someone mentioned these comments cringe worthy well i suggest looking up what CoD lead had to say about their business practice and how the us military could benefit , then come back here and tell me if you still choose to use the word "cringe worthy" against your fellow consumer or if you stand firm with your choice of word as you "omg ooo ooo i cant wait for the next cod omg take my money and soul". Its cringe worthy to buy another CoD product after they pretty much said they brainwash "US" and then pounce. Its just as cringe worthy how many seem to live in a bubble and have zero care for how their actions or lack of directly or indirectly harms the entire community as a whole but anyways im done here btw thanks sammy for making the article to which im hoping will help get THE conversation started but i dont think so.
Archive and read my stuff in a year Or agree with your fav youtuber if and when they muster up the courage to expose but by then your cries will fall on deaf ears .
Keep encouraging and welcoming this practice and you will get bigger helpings for everyone . One cant deny consumers who paid for drive club got a mess of a game and since no pressure of accountability etc well why change the practice of day 1 messes and patches etc etc. Have fun paying for hd textures and resolutions ala consoles next year ! You are begging for it.
Re: Evolution Studios: We're As Frustrated About DriveClub Issues As You Are
@MoleZandor accountability is often passed like a buck but heres and example of said process being demonstrated on a consumer level. If i hack your bank account is it my parents fault for poor upbringing or maybe my 3rd grade history teacher?If you took me to court Would the judge really factor any of that in being 32 year old adult? Well as consumers we are kinda judge and jury and if the majority feels as you do then no accountability and more important no change in terms of business practice .
Re: Evolution Studios: We're As Frustrated About DriveClub Issues As You Are
@WARDIE also unfortunately many people are defending Evolution and "assaulting" anyone who cries foul, it will happen to you and I here as it grows later in the day
Re: Evolution Studios: We're As Frustrated About DriveClub Issues As You Are
@get2sammyb Evolution did not open beta stress test their servers, dynamic weather and photo mode is not included in my day 1 purchase of my physical copy of drive club, the print on box misleadingly reads that you can play other players on and offline. What ammount of false advert and not fully functional product constitutes wrong doing in your opinion ? Ive seen reprehensive actions taken for "box quotes" alone and im very sorry to spam here but this conversation needs to happen please embrace it and help expose what is happening in general in the industry before its too late >gaming crash>epic jobs lost> Mobile games dominate >digital 100 percent, 100 percent rights lost
Re: Evolution Studios: We're As Frustrated About DriveClub Issues As You Are
@WARDIE im also glad to see someone is aware that downloading psplus version using psn isnt going to be a factor to whether evolution "fixes servers" , as psn is a different infrastructure and is only the bridge to connect to servers of games that offer online play. Its funny how in reviews the weather was "breathtaking "and connection was " instant " but what isnt funny is how many use reviews when deciding to buy a product
Re: Evolution Studios: We're As Frustrated About DriveClub Issues As You Are
@Ginkgo Do you know what the projected sales figure was and what the figure actually is? I personally do not but until you do you cant rule anything out period. I do know that if my sales were halved in comparison to my projected well securing and maximizing sales would be a priority and although evolution isnt calling the shots at this juncture its a plan thats best suited for the suits at evolution due to evolution inevitable downsizing incoming hence tons of funds about to go up in smoke due to major damaged control.
This project seems like it was charted for disaster , no public beta to stress test servers in any event is the consumer accountable here? Lol because you instantly ignored the facts and trying to dismiss wrong doing immediately and thats pure consumer ignorance and denial which is why we get shafted every other release
Re: Evolution Studios: We're As Frustrated About DriveClub Issues As You Are
@WARDIE
Sir they knew it would be a bad way to launch a system seller while essentially Forza would begin the boxing match with a 1st round knockdown and although i know that the devs did tweak certain stuff imo not to constitute a year delay. See from a marketing perspective you would want a game to release in a timeframe of max anticipation in this case racing genre and the timeframe they picked was perfect , right when forza h2 and before the crew so basically drawing force from their hypetrain to which is a clever and money effective way to let the desire to play a driving game on a system with lack of driving games while releasing at a time when people are talking most about driving games is a great recipe to help sell a driving game . Hope that makes sense
Re: Evolution Studios: We're As Frustrated About DriveClub Issues As You Are
I know my gramar is aweful but wanted 2 get that up asap using my d4 , sorry.
If you guys think there isnt a bad problem in the industry of gaming due to the lack of exposure well consider that the mainstream journalists and youtube kings livelyhood depends on the very entity it will expose so no it will never happen as that saying goes dont bite the hand that feeds.
We need an outside source to look into the state of the industry , what they have been doing , how it effects the consumer and how his or her rights are jeopardized. Ive taken a peek into what our rights truely are and holy crap its disturbing but what do i know im just some random idiot on the Internet but this random idiot is going to take this to another level rather than post on forums and i suggest you do to OR we can get to the point where weather effects , higher resolutions, online play, chosing characters name etc will come after launch via updates and then via paid dlc
Re: Evolution Studios: We're As Frustrated About DriveClub Issues As You Are
Please dont add salt to the wound evolution , No you are not as frustrated as the consumer as we are the little people who got ripped off but sadly the good people who are low on the totem pole over at evolution will be out of a job very soon while the major players run off w bags of cash because layoffs of the working class seems like the current trend of how the industry choose to clean up their mess after a major heist.
Now who's to blame here? Well initially the development and publisher but at this point its soley on the comsumer myself included because we have been letting these corporations get away w murder and well the moment gaming goes 100 percent digital is when we lose all our rights as well as uber protection for corporations to do as they please without worry of any legal problems etc although they are getting away with theft using every illegal marketing and false advertisement practice while we do have rights, we chose the right to wait and ask for more punishment .
Well no weather effects nor photo mode nor online play day 1 and day 2 and please dont defend evolution because thats part of the problem. Just as you wouldnt buy a car, marketing to have a V8 engine, only to be told sorry you will get that later due to stock issues after buying the car . Would you accept this practice anywhere else? I dont think many would so why with games ?
They are maximizing profitability imo as psplus free edition is the worse marketing decision ive seen in a long time as corporations will opt for us to buy a purchase blind rather than test drive 9 out of 10 times so someone decided to use server problem which worked seemlessly pre launch may i add due to pre order numbers being low as well as target of profitability being way off so yes i believe they are hot fixing to get the last drop of sales especially w the luke warm reviews .
May i add that a game built w social connection etc well at the least needs a public server stress test ala beta but oddly there was none to speak of.