Hogwarts Legacy was released a few months ago (shattering sales records), allowing many to live out their nascent Harry Potter fantasies. Notably absent from the curriculum was Quidditch, the undeniably appealing sport famous in Harry Potter's Wizarding World. In-game, Headmaster Nigellus Black cancelled the Quidditch tournament for the year, citing safety concerns.
Still, some players have a more conspiratorial theory: that it was intentionally left out to be sold separately instead in the form of the standalone Harry Potter: Quidditch Champions, also published by Warner Bros. Games.
In threads like this and others on the Hogwarts Legacy subreddit, many players are voicing their frustration at this state of affairs and at the alleged brazenness of the move. Certainly, it's notable how often characters in Hogwarts Legacy comment on how weird it feels not having Quidditch on that year, a sentiment echoed by players.
It isn't great timing, and we can see why players might feel frustrated. Quidditch Champions is being developed in collaboration with WB Games, Portkey Games and Unbroken Studios, who notably assisted on the recently delayed Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League.
What do you think about the whole situation? Will you be picking up Harry Potter: Quidditch Champions, regardless? Let us know in the comments section below.
[source reddit.com, via gamesradar.com]
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Honestly, I don't think I'll be getting Quidditch Champions. I'm not a huge fan of it (but I don't dislike the mode either). So that's why I'm not frustrated that it's being sold as a separate game.
WB absolutely didn't include quidditch in Hogwarts Legacy because they knew they were making a separate quidditch game and they want people to have to pay for that. I'll never be convinced otherwise.
Assuming this is even true, Legacy is a 50+ hour game without it. What exactly is the problem?
I remember watching my friend play the Quidditch game on the GameCube many years ago. Good times.
I'm curious to see how WB will price this and how much content will be there.
I dont care to defend anything that makes Joanne money, but this is ridiculous. Even the art style here is different, a lot more cartoony. These are separe projects, and as far as we know this won’t even be sold, but be a F2P title with season passes and what not.
This game very likely will try to mimic the Rocket League monetization, only not with licensed vehicles, though, just a constant influx of robes, brooms and customization options.
Why is this an issue? Its a seperate game so if you dont want it dont buy it. Are all spin off games in the future going to suffer the same vitriol? Probably because the fake outrage generation is in full effect. Oh and push square i think its time to stop using that disclaimer now as everybody gets it and knows you are not impartial so give it a rest..
@Tharsman I agree with you. They are definitely separate products being developed by different studios.
But the conspiracy theory is mostly concerning the fact that it was noticeably missing from Hogwarts Legacy. It actually may have been left out because of the existence of the other game, being released by the same publisher.
But the more likely explanation is that they left it out due to time constraints. The game was already delayed multiple times, and every feature they include adds to development time.
Don't see the issue, it's been done before. 😏
Well the only way to prove it wasn’t is to announce that Qudditch DLC nice and early then Portkey…
I'm sure we'll all recover and be ok. You're welcome for the click.
Legacy should include quidditch. It's a huge part of the world and now it looks like a financial decision to not include it and release this.
If Quidditch was in Hogwarts Legacy it would have probably been half baked anyway. They would rather sell you Quidditch Champions 23 then Quidditch Champions 24 and so on like regular sports games.
Same as TLOU factions, but at least the NPCs didnt mention it.
It was sensible to keep Quidditch out. The mechanics of a sport game will be different to the mechanics of an open world game. It would have been difficult to deliver a satisfying experience for both. I think this is the best situation for HP Fans like myself.
I think it’s much more likely it wasn't ready for the game. This is because 1) it’s not ready for the new game and, 2) if it were ready they would put it in as a limited activity to promote and get people excited for the full fledged game. It’s just basic marketing to have your new product marketed in an already very successful product.
I’m not too interested in it but, for the sake of those who are, I’d implore them to fix the terrible broom controls of Hogwarts. Having the elevation and camera turning on the same stick is just bad design we moved away from generations ago.
I mean as long as the end result plays like a fully fleshed out game in itself, rather than a minigame, what exactly is the problem? Because it would have only ever been a minigame in Hogwarts Legacy...
@danlk1ng I didn't actually think of it like that until I saw your comment. I agree, although it was weird it not being in legacy, I now believe having a separate game with the team only focusing on quidditch and nothing else should surely mean a better and more polished experience, I do wonder about the price of it though.
I'm not a fan of sport games, especially competitive ones but I would have liked to have seen Quidditch in Hogwarts Legacy.
Wouldn't have expected it to feel like a sport game but instead a fun mode with a different playstyle so that flying doesn't feel the same as the open world.
@Valgore I mean, as long as they don't follow the FIFA model of "full price game plus hefty micro transactions" I wouldn't say I'm particularly concerned on that front either. If I don't like the price I'll just wait for a sale lol, not like I don't have a backlog to get through
Another bunch of whiners.. whining again.
@danlk1ng exactly. I'll sit back and wait but yeah I've got a backlog and games coming out. I'm doing all Dlcs right now on BL3 and then dead island on Friday which is going to be epic I hope. So many games and so little time haha.
If hogwarts was a multiplayer game then I could understand the frustration more. But right now, I dunno. Vote with your wallet I guess.
@SilverShamrock my thoughts exactly. It's like, did you purchase a full game? Stop acting entitled.
imho twas the worst part of the films and books. So glad it wasn't in the Hogwarts game and I wouldn't touch it with yours as a stand-alone.
Doomed to failure I'm afraid.
You need good starting material and that game is not such.
The flying mechanics in Legacy were terrible anyway, I think I'll pass.
This theory still sounds a bit too tinfoil hat for me. I think HL didn't have it because it focused on combat and exploration.
Removed - unconstructive feedback
Frankly to do it really well it needs to be a separate game with its own mechanics and AI. Feels like outrage for outrage’s sake
@Anke This. They were “passable” you wouldn’t have wanted a forced quidditch mode. Some of the flying parts were the most frustrating parts by miles.
I’m glad quidditch wasn’t shoe horned in. It’s very plausible a wizard/witch wouldn’t play quidditch. It didn’t harm the game at all. Bad quidditch would have. Stand alone game makes sense
@TheCollector316 Or perhaps they wanted to try and do Quidditch justice and make a proper game out of it rather than an in-game sports mini-game which are almost always half baked
Legacy is like a billion hours long.
I'm personally not a fan of half-baked minigames in titles to extend their play time by hours.
I wonder how many people who are complaining actually played Hogwarts Legacy and engaged in all the existing side content. The game is huge. There’s so much to do, the map is very large, there’s loads of novel little things to spend your time on that honestly it borders on too much, actually. To complain that another entire activity isn’t present is silly. I’m about 70 hours into the game and still finding new areas, new puzzles, and haven’t even scratched the surface of some aspects like beast breeding and broom races.
Like someone up there said, players weren’t “livid” when Factions wasn’t included in TLoU2. In fact, like Hogwart’s Legacy, many people complained TLoU2 went a bit too long. Games release “DLC” all the time and ask you to pay for it separately and I never hear a peep, and often this “DLC” is even more egregious as clear “carved out” content from the original game. Pre-planned DLC and season passes are what really needs to be criticized here, not a 100 hour game that doesn’t happen to have another entire side activity in addition to the dozens it already has.
As a side note — the only thing I’d add would be an online component where you can visit other players’ Rooms of Requirement. It would enhance the already enormous side activity of decorating your space with the dozens of assets they provide and being able to show off your style and your beasts etc. (a la Animal Crossing, etc) But I realize the technical aspects of that isn’t as simple as it sounds.
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Well now I think it's outrageous we had all those separate Star Wars games, when actually they should all have been released as one big game at the same time!!
It’s too bad that they didn’t include it in Legacy (I love that in-game characters complain about it lol), but this can only mean a stronger, more fully featured Quidditch game, right? Right?!
I've signed up for the beta for the giggles. I assumed they'd save it for a Legacy sequel (haven't actually played any of Legacy) definitely comes across as a cash grab.
If it's a fully fleshed out game rather than a tacked on add on to a game that already has more than enough content then I'm happy enough with this. I will wait and see how the game looks once there is more revealed to decide if it is worthwhile buying.
If they’d put this in Legacy it would have been like Blitzball in FFX.
(Although, I actually enjoyed Blitzball in FFX)
@Futureshark I know. I had to buy Odyssey AND Mario Kart 8!
Not sure people should ever expect to buy 1 game and get 2.
Anything dropped into Hogwarts would surely not have the depth of this stand alone release??
Quidditch is s**t anyway. It's like watching Frank Lampard's Chelsea.
Well, I signed up for the beta. I’ll see what it’s all about. Not a fan of the art style, as it does sort of scream free to play, for me, but I’m truly hoping it’s a solid title.
@Northern_munkey Truth, but be careful with your opinions with this editor/moderator he removed my comment on the MGS 3 "Snake Eater" article because it offended his delicate ego.
Took me about 60hours to finish because I kept getting distracted.
Fans SHOULD be happy about it being an actual game and not some tagged on activity like the rest of the half-baked fluff in Hogwarts Legacy.
Ones a single player rpg the other is an online multiplayer. Not really sure how it would make sense to include it with hogwarts legacy.
I think they made the right call to have a fully developed quiddich game instead of shoe-horning it into legacy.
Well, videogame history is full of side activities turned into full spin-off games later after people fell in love with the side activity. There was no reason for WB to remove it completely and offer as a separate game. The game is already huge, full of details, it's more likely that they didn't have the time and budget to focus on yet another part of wizarding world.
The flight engine in HL was fine for fast travel across an open world. Not for Quidditch.
@Tharsman To be fair F2P is a lot more costly then a payed game a lot of the time or it makes the games worse with bad mechanics.
@PSXDave i'm not discussing the "M" word though..
Or simply because the game was already huge, and not everyone in Hogwarts is a Quidditch athlete. A Harry potter game does not need to force every single player to go through Quidditch minigames. Not to mention, to make Quidditch any justice in todays day an age, would require a whole game.
@Flaming_Kaiser If they do them the proven way, a F2P console game only gives the player skins and cosmetics rewards for their money, absolutely zero in game progression.
I don't play multiplayer games, but those cosmetics are just that, and you can simply relax and have a fun game without them.
then again, they might go the EA sports way and not actually let you play a position, but instead play a team, and lock team players via card packs and gross stuff like that.
I think I might prefer this I loved quidditch world cup on PS2 so if it's that but more in depth and multiplayer then yeah I'm board IF it is that then I will let them off, if it sucks then I'll be made it was left out although from the start I said quidditch was too big of a thing to show horn into an already packed game
May or may not be true, but if WB is the publisher, it doesn't surprise me. Remember Shadow of Mordor?
I think it's disgusting behaviour from the publisher. How dare they not include everything to do with the franchise in one 50+ hour game?!?!?
It also sickens me that they didn't include the full movie set on Blu-ray and hardback copies of the books!
Another game with the fortnite cartoon art direction wowwww. No thanks.
@DrGonzo be careful or else we will both be on shakey ground..
@Tharsman they might add Superman and Batman capes
Considering we had Quidditch World Cup on the PS2, I don't see the issue with having a standalone game for it, providing it's got enough content to support itself.
Livid? As a massive HP fan, this is music to my ears and completely justifies the lack of Quidditch in Hogwarts Legacy!
I'd much rather have a stand-alone game that can offer more of an experience, rather than a half-measured version of it within another game (like FIFA Street vs VOLTA).
With the success of Hogwarts, WB I am sure know they have nothing to worry about with the backlash.
I'm not angry/mad about this, the art style of the Quidditch game is vastly different, not to mention being worked on by a completely different developer (Unbroken Studios).
@Tharsman COD is already testing the waters for pay to win in COD. If that will be accepted then you better be ready for the floodgates to open. In the end a lot of F2P are already pay to win boosters to skip the grind.
Resident Evil 2 put it in the singleplayer to make it easier to upgrade weaponsisnt that funny make a problem and offer a payed solution.
Now it's not that bad but you better be ready for Capcom to crank that dail to make it bad enough for you to want to pay for a "solution" on the future.
We didn't accept microtransaction in fully priced games now it's normal yeah just you wait.
@Moochy @Orpheus79V No idea what it will be yet so let's see not that I'm going to get it even when it's free to play.
To be fair, if you wanted to get quidditch to work properly in Hogwarts Legacy, then the flight mechanics would need a complete overhaul.
Has anyone watched a quidditch game in a Harry Potter movie?
Right. You need continual high speed, and pinpoint precision. And quick reactions.
As much as I love the feeling of freedom that you get flying a broom in “Legacy” - there’s no hope of it being good enough for Quidditch.
This is probably the reason for those broom races being time trials, and not against other actual competitors.
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