PS Plus Extra Was Designed as a 'Best of' PS Now Game List

What’s he talking about? There are over 400 games.
Plus, even if his argument held up, it wouldn’t explain games from Now being re-added to Extra just recently.

I enjoy that it is a best of collection, but come on Sony. Could you at least leave some of them a bit longer than you have? Some cycle out, what feels like, much faster than before, and certainly for shorter stints than Gamepass.

I want high quality not mass quantity so as long as they don't replace the initial 'best of' with the secondary 'rest of' then I'm all good 😁

And keep adding first party titles too, even though they won't be as common an occurrence as the first batch of games they added.

PS+ Deluxe has to be the worse deal in gaming

I completely agree that quality over quantity as a goal for the service. Especially for those who have the cash to actually pay for PS Plus Extra (i.e. adults with a job and not a lot of actual time to play). Still, Sony seems to be a bit too keen on trial-and-error approaches with these: Premium seems more like a scam than the highest tier and the PlayStation Stars will be on diapers for a good couple of years (or they might even go prematurely defunct before a chance to improve).

Im not sure i agree with this. The whole thing has been a way to rebrand PS NOW under the more successful PS Plus name, and drip feed content that was previously accessible on NOW each month to look generous, rather than invest in new titles for the service (to a certain extent. I acknowledge some PS5 games and sporadic fresh content is being added)

I dont think any new PS2 titles have been added for example that were not part of the short-livid classics programme on PS4.

And i dont get the issue they are having with PS One titles given they had the classics library on PS3 and Vita. I can only assume there would be considerable backlash over the performance of PAL region titles in Europe, and they havent worked out a way around it yet.

Something is just off about the programme at the moment, but give it a year, and hopefully it will look very different

Epic burn against Sega! They dropped every single Sega game from the service when transitioning (but have been adding them back).

@Rob_230 Meh. I grew up on PAL region games and they really are not that much worse. I would go as far as to say that your average gamer would need it pointed out to him.

@avatarian I will forever maintain that PS Stars needs to be linked to Premium in some way in order to be successful. Its classic FOMO - if the Premium subs are getting all of these cool exclusive rewards then people will upgrade. A bit scummy perhaps but that's business.

@DualWielding @Rob_230 Not only haven't they added any PS2 games since the defunct PS4 range,I seem to recall noting several of those titles were listed as incompatible or "significant issues" working on PS5 list.

It saddens me that for all the millions being spent on live service games studios,mobile studios etc.,the current PS management seem totally indifferent to putting any resources into a studio or two like a Digital Eclipse that could develop a good emulation base for PS1 & PS2 classics to work properly & with good features for a true classic games library to be converted/made available!

Nevermind a similar group to maybe redo some of the PS3 back catalogue if emulation is considered too hard for the PS5.

The current strategy of relying on effectively PS Now streaming not only feels cheap,but where are they supposed to source more of the server blades to roll out in regions like mine where PS Now never existed?
Given PS Deluxe probably exists in more regions than those with Premium,they're reaping $20/year more than Extra (my region. Nearly double the 12month price of Essential overall),for a retro games library that's barely been added to & certainly lacking PS2 Classics like the recent Premium additions of Ratchet & Clank & Sly Cooper!

Instead we get silence & a hope the issue goes away or Jim Ryan to again claim Classic Games aren't popular with low Premium/Deluxe metric usage when the reality is they never really backed it in the first place!

Lol they've literally just readded a bunch of ratchet & clank games that were already on ps now 🙃

I’m guessing if they don’t start adding some new or at least newer games to the service that initial FOMO is going to wear off a lot of users and around the one year anniversary cancelations will be high.

I’m sure the day and date stuff won’t happen due to the cost but give us 3-6 month old games at the very least.

@LifeGirl couldn't agree less. The PAL versions of Japanese PS1 stuff such as Tekken and Ridge Racer were appalling. Noticeably slower and with large borders top and bottom of the screen. I bought an import PS1 to avoid it, most didn't or couldn't because back then you still had to have a multistandard TV for that to work. Good riddance to those days.

I haven't had plus since I moved house back in August, I miss not being able to have matches of Guilty Gear, but I have a huge backlog to get through so no need for it really. Be great if Guilty Gear didn't need plus for online!

@LifeGirl I agree. Always seemed fine to me. But you saw the reaction when Sony launched the new PS Plus in Japan etc. The usual noise was generated online and i do wonder if Sony wondered whether it was worth the effort

Honestly, I'm satisfied with Extra currently. Especially with Black Friday sale offer.
With that said, no idea what he is talking about..

Balan Wonderworld...

Premium just needs more PS1, PSP and PS2 classics all with some sort of trophy support. Vita games would be nice too as those already have trophies(the ones that dont use the Vita back touchpad). Every game doesn't necessarily need to have a platinum just under a dozen trophies will do without a platinum. The trouble with this is there's hardly been any new PS1 classics added and only PS1 1st party titles have trophy support. I mean how difficult is it for 3rd party devs to add half a dozen trophies to their PS1 classic when allowing it on premium. And the argument of oh its an old game that nobody is working on so why would we bother to put trophies on it, well my argument would be why bother to agree putting your classic on a modern console to begin with if you just gonna lazy half heart it

Why have PS Now for £50/yr, when you can have a reduced selection of games on PS+ Extra for a mere £84/yr.

What a deal.

@Would_you_kindly The Original trilogy deadlocked or tools of destruction Have Never been Apart Of The Service.

@Jayslow ...was not one of the games they brought over from PS Now.

@Areus the original trilogy are PS2 games so Sony could've very easily got them running natively as part of the premium service aswell as deluxe members that don't have the option of streaming but decided that was too much effort let's just put the PS3 versions on that you can only stream 🙃

@DaveSimonH exactly before you could choose between ps plus & ps now or both , now you're forced to pay for plus if you want the now games ... Thanks Sony 👍🏻

Or we could just go back to Greatest Hits physical editions, this trying to lock me into a monthly subscription of set priced digital assets is something I'll resist as long as possible. It's the biggest con to a Digital only PS5. You may save $100 initially but can't buy second hand or bargain bin physical games. Over the long term the Digital PS5 is more expensive. I know they're doing their best to eliminate physical games, but I hope that never happens.

@tselliot it depends on the game. Plenty of games are way cheaper digital than physical, especially as time goes on and the discs just get more and more expensive. Also, no way physical rentals will ever match the per-game price of PS+'s upper tiers, the drawback being new releases very likely won't be on PS+, you'd need to rent physical if you absolutely cannot wait.

Basically, being physical-only is just as foolish as being digital-only. Getting the best of both worlds is the way to go.

PS the greatest hits physical versions still exist (and they exist as digital too).

@Milktastrophe Yes and no. Many of the Sega games that were taken off Now were also delisted from the PS3's store. Obviously everybody knows that Sonic 1, 2, CD and Knuckles were delisted in favour of a next-generation rerelease, but if you want to play any of the others, you can only hope for a rerelease, or just play them on your phone.

Extra, what this article is actually about, has actually been pretty good so far. I'm considering adding another year of it during the Black Friday sale. Premium has been a joke though.

I'm absolutelly satisfied with Extra. Many many many games I wanted to play for ages but avoided to buy, now are there at the expense of a click. It's a gift from heavens. If I had more time like a few years ago I would have played like crazy!!

Makes sense because I'm not bothered with it and was never bothered with PS Now until they got the promised "every PlayStation game ever made" onto the service. Its fairly obvious now (and 5 years ago) that that is never going to happen.

I got fed up with premium and the games been same genre month 2 month with not much variety aswell as the ps5 offering usually being some indie game (which is cool if they are your thing just not mine!) So I cancelled my subscription all together.......only to remember after reinstalling god of war 2018 to platinum after finishing ragnarok and batman return to arkham as I had just replayed origins when Kevin Conroy sadly passed away, I booted up arkham asylum went to download my save from cloud and it was like HALT!!!!! GIVE ME MONEY TO ACCESS YA SAVES FOOOOL!!!! 😭😭😭

R.I.P KEVIN CONROY!!! YOU are the 🦇🦇🦇Batman 🦇🦇🦇

@Milktastrophe Nope. Not true. When you have 80:1 choices of a physical copy (from any retailer all the way to eBay) compared to digital copy from one source, no way is digital being the cheaper the norm. If it is, it's an outlier.

@tselliot Nope. Not true. Like I said, depends on the game, Plenty are way cheaper digital, especially when you consider sale prices, just like plenty can be cheaper physical (but the best physical deals usually come from location-specific clearance which basically may as well not exist for 99% of people).

Some examples of full price: Resonance of Fate PS4 is $35 digital when not on sale ($20 on sale), the cheapest ebay listing I saw was $70. Nights of Azure 1&2 are both $60 digital ($21/$24 on sale or included with Extra) but $70 for a disc.

Physical discs eventually stop getting made, so their price will drive up, the digital listing isn't going to go up in price at least.