Update: The footage of the heartbreaking introductory cutscene of The Last of Us: Part I is quickly being taken down across the web, but we've found a re-upload in the YouTube video above. Expect this one to be pulled too before long.
Original story: The infamous introductory sequence of The Last of Us: Part I has leaked more than a month before the PS5 remake's release date. Embedded below, you can prepare the tissues ahead of time as the emotional scene between Joel and Sarah is displayed in 4K. Of course, if you haven't played the original PS3 game or its remaster, then beware of spoilers.
The one good thing about this leak is we have another piece of the game to compare to the visuals of the 2013 title, with the PS5 remake representing a huge leap in graphical fidelity. The same was said when Naughty Dog officially compared Tess in another pivotal cutscene. Other screenshots from The Last of Us: Part I have also leaked, which you can check out through here.
Just be quick about it because there's a good chance the video above and leaked images could be pulled in the near future. What do you make of this latest clip? Share your thoughts in the comments below.
Naughty Dog still appears to be using the same security team as PS3-era Sony.
Looks great………… for a ca$h grab 😉
To each their own but this isn’t for me. I enjoyed the PS4 Remaster enough that I don’t need to play this again and part of the enjoyment of the version I played was the MP. Really quite enjoyed that aspect of the game, surprisingly.
3/10, needed a Sniper Elite style slow mo X-Ray.
Are people really arguing that this isn't a cash grab?
Feel like ND wants this to “leak” to perhaps garner faith from what I’ve seen is a very visceral reaction to this remake.
Leaked huh? You sure it wasn't strategically released to try and prove it isn't a cash grab?
@ErrantRob @ryanburnsred You really believe a developer would leak its own content, particularly of such an important scene? Come on.
@Ambassador_Kong More like some are sick of "cash grab" rhetoric.
@LiamCroft yes? Especially since this scene is extremely well-known and has been in 2 games now? When Ubisoft games "leak" no one bats an eye. How is it hard to believe that, given the generally negative response to this game so far, that the studio would want to "release" something to assure people of the quality they are attempting?
Oh C’mon guys….acting like Madden and COD and BF and FIFA aren’t cash grabs…who ya foolin?
Absolutely savage...welled me up once again
@LiamCroft Yes, actually I do. And I wouldn't really call that scene all that important when it's at the beginning of a 15 hour game. The scene is like, what, 10-15 minutes into the game?
Drugs...I sell hardcore drugs.
@micolash_the_host Maybe you've forgotten but no matter what is shown ever since Last of Us Part 2's leak, Naughty Dog has been torn to pieces. So why would they think this scene being purposely leaked would make any difference?
If there was a more purposeful leak it would be on the environment and how much the in-game world looks like now. Is it Shadow of the Colossus Remake huge of a difference? Stuff that would really kill the "cash grab" rhetoric.
Reminds me of The Last of Us a lot for some reason
@ryanburnsred wouldn't call that scene important? Lol
I appreciate the higher poly count and more facial expressions, but honestly, camera angle, voice acting, even story seems to be beat by beat like the original.
This is a REMASTER, not a remake, and should be priced accordingly.
Nah, I'll wait until I play it again. Still looking forward to it.
You'd think this Remake isn't necessary till you remember how in the original, your partners unrealistically appear in clear view of enemies when sneaking 😆. They fixed that in PT2 and should be applied here, that alone I think warrants a remake.
@Germs73 those studios pour their heart and soul into those full price annual upgrades.
I only played it once on PS3, I don't recall the scene at all, I was always super confused when people got all excited about things with long necks too, ugh yeah, it's some of those
@Ambassador_Kong Yes... haha o no not a leak of a game that's closing in on a decade old... whatever will the internet do!!! pft
I saw this “leak” on PS3 and Ps4 already
@LiamCroft @ryanburnsred @ErrantRob
It's also interesting that this leak is yet another cutscene, which is in line with what ND has officially released regarding the remake.
Surprised that the rogue leaker wouldn't go for some actual gameplay with the new gameplay additions.
Just seeing this scene, AGAIN, it's just ridiculous to me that they are reselling this game a third time.
I truly hope less fall for this and condone it with a purchase when it releases. Remember that this began as another outsourced project.
This cash grab only continues a trend. I personally think it baffling anyone would be looking forward to a future of gaming that consists of copy and pasted content masked as sequels, reselling old content, and live service garbage. It serves no one to be so willfully ignorant as to literally advocate for the downfall of something you love.
We see that enough with the lunacy that is democracy and politics across the globe
@Richnj show gameplay?!.... that would solidify this being a remaster of a remaster and not a remake and hurt cash grab sales figures.... lol
Just as emotional as it was a decade ago. You know, it's fine this exists. Just like it's fine GTAV PS3/PS4/PS5 exist. It puts a quality game in more hands. But that viability does not translate to artistic integrity. People rightfully gave R* s***. People gave Nintendo s*** for their Wii U-to-Switch initiatives (even though that was more justified due to the lack of backwards compatibility — less justified $60, though). And Sony likewise deserves s***.
I'm not offended this exists. But...it doesn't bode well for Sony as a strong developer pushing the industry forward. I'm still more optimistic given the lack of crunch in its development. It certainly CAN exist, but every time I see it I'm less convinced it SHOULD exist.
Are Sony forcing everyone who owns a ps5 to go out and buy this or something? Not sure what the anger is about, it's a remake for people who happen to be interested in one.
A side-by-side of the ps4 remaster and the ps5 remake of this scene, would the differences be noticeable, ie worth the money? Same has to be said of gameplay. I only bought the remaster on ps4, so not as butthurt as other gamers.
Cries in pounds.
@PhhhCough anything more than a tenner for a rehashed ps3 game and no its not worth the money. 70 quid is taking the absolute bona-fide piss.
This game didn't need a remake.
I'll be buying I love this series.
@Balosi in a way, yeah. People tend to buy good games and this is going to be a good game.
@Phelaidar Remakes are not remasters. It’s the same story, but not the same game.
damn sarah got bigger huh
@PhhhCough The differences are certainly noticeable when the remake is compared side by side to the original game. It will definitely help when they show off more of the game, so far we’ve only seen a minute and a half of it. With the majority of that being cutscenes.
70 dollars for the same game that was priced at 50 then 60 and now 70? With ps4 it made sense considering the issues of porting a game from ps3 and the bonus of 60 fps, all dlc, and multiplayer. But this game adds nothing besides pretty visuals (which for some reason are hard to tell apart sometimes) with worse looking characters faces. Doesn't even have multiplayer. I'd rather play the remaster. Still haven't finished my grounded run.
@admeister this remake is using the same level layout, same sound files, animation info, camera angles... it is much closer to a remaster than a remake.
How is a 9 year old cutscene a leak?
I have insider info: Aeris dies.
@Phelaidar Wrong. The only thing being re-used is the motion capture data and audio. The engine is rebuilt, the sound mix is being reworked for 3D audio, the textures and assets are all new, the models are redone, and the games controls and mechanics are being reworked to flow better with Part 2.
Even if it's the same game on the surface, the underlying technology is rebuilt from the new engine. That's a remake. A remaster would just be if they upscaled the PS4 version again.
Just another reminder of why I'll be waiting years for this new remaster to be $20 or cheaper.
@Phelaidar I take it you've played the entire game to call it a remaster. Fantastic.
Please, elaborate with more details. All they did was change the resolution and fps. right? No gameplay changes?
@Balosi it's the internet. People are simply angry and take it out on meaningless things. Be it video games, singers, TV shows, actors, etc. So.Much.Anger.
Looks incredible. That's a day one for me. I want to see gameplay though. Sony has to have some SoP in the pipeline for that, I hope.
@NEStalgia not so sure that will happen in FFVII Rebirth, anything can happen!
@MightyDemon82 That's one remake that maybe should have learned from NDs "don't fix it if it ain't broke" thinking. Though, they did wait 20 some years to remake theirs...
Yeah but its a key scene to who Joel is why he makes the decisions he makes over the course of the game.
Looks more remaster than remake that's for sure. What a waste of time and energy
@Balosi you are mistaking disappointment and concern for an industry trend as anger over this lame cash grab.
So an article about the ps5's intro scene being leaked and people manage to still go on about it being a cash grab? I'm starting to feel like bill murray in groundhogs day..
The lighting is dramatically improved.
That’s the main thing I’ve noticed so far in the screen shots and video released. Which can change how scenes look entirely.
And the environmental assets (which this trailer doesn’t really show) are also dramatically improved, since they were taken from TLOU2.
It looks great but I’m not paying 70 dollars for it. Once it drops to 30 I’ll pick it up.
While I share the concern (we need more original games) I don’t think this Remake is the poster child for such problems.
It looks extremely well crafted. And great care was taken.
I would take a solid remake over some microtransactioned to hell literal trash like Battlefield 2042.
Purely talking about the graphics I feel it’s one of the cases where more is less (I don’t like using silly cliche but it sounds right here).
Tess and Sarah characters are more detailed but paradoxically it seems they had more personality in the original where they were better looking and more impactful. That’s just my impression looking at it.
About the people going on and on with buzzwords like ‘cAsH gRaB’. I mean it’s a non needed product alright like there are so many. It’s just as ridiculous to moan about it on and on as it would be to go in GOWR overpriced special hammer collector whatever they call it and have a tantrum about it 🤷🏼♂️
Day one for me. Already got PS3/4 copies but hey! Love this story!
Seems no different to people buy COD games over and over again. Basically the same thing every time, with very little changing and yet a massive outcry from people who thought that it might be taken away from PS platform by you-know-who.
People will probably disagree (hate?) with this comment, but remember, each to their own and it has no impact on you.
Annnnnd it’s gone!
Cash grab this. Cash grab that. Who ****** cares? Self-important, useless comments going for cheap 'likes'. You don't care for the game, We get it — I don't see why you need to mention it every article about the game.
I wonder what the crossover between the people saying it's a cash grab, and the people who hated TLOU2 because of the (none existent) "politics", looks like?
@MattBoothDev Good point. I'd be interested to know, as well.
The scene none of us saw coming. ND did such a good job of keeping it secret before the original launch. It still kills me today.
They must be sick with yet another leak though.
@JJ2 Buzz word is exactly right.
I guess "anti-consumer" has faded a little so we've moved on to "cash grab" now?
@Balosi Yes, thats why everyone is annoyed,because they are going to be sent the game whether they like it or not and the money will be charged from their cards..
@ryanburnsred lol, I was on your side until you said this scene wasn’t important 😂
Its like you haven’t even played the game in any iteration. It’s literally the foundation of the entire game.
Isn't a majority of games cash grabs though? We see iterations of games like FIFA, Call of duty e.c.t hit shelves every year and are mostly the same game. While I agree this game isn't needed as such, those same people who moan are probably playing call of duty this evening.
@Resi32 "Cries in pounds"
Haha, underrated comment. A dollar for every tear 😭🤑
Can someone tell me what games are being made out of kindness and not to earn money ??
@Balosi people love to be mad and quirky on the internet
@NEStalgia I'm more excited for Rebirth, if I want it as it is I can replay the original FFVII. If LoUP1 is as good as part 2 in the gameplay department then I'm sold. Be great to play both back to back.
@MightyDemon82 we just need full ps5 patch for 2!
I just watched the side by side comparison video. YES it's an improvement, but still feels 95% unnecessary. Sony/Naughty Dog really haven't done a good job of convincing us WHY this needed remaking. Especially when these talented devs could be working on something else.
The graphics are still absolutely fine in the remaster, the story, music and voice acting haven't aged and are still top tier. What HAS aged is the gameplay and AI. Has the gameplay been updated? If so how? ND fumbling the bag here.
There’s no way this is a cASh gRab with a HBO show right around the corner, nahhh no way.
@Neomic "Even if it's the same game on the surface, the underlying technology is rebuilt from the new engine. That's a remake"
Is COD: Modern Warfare Remastered, a remake or a remaster?
I honestly understand why people are so mad. I think if Sony cuts the price by 20 euros people would be accepting this much more and it would be a fair price.
But hey, it's ok if you can't or don't want to buy it...
I would advise all those who think this is a cash grab remaster who probably already have the PS4 version...just don't buy it!
For everyone else that is interested in the new PS5 remake (maybe some who've never played it before) then either buy it day 1 if feeling you can afford it, or perhaps wait for it to be on sale a few months on. Perhaps a physical copy from Ebay.
That is all.
I think its great that they've redone this. And I'm looking forward to its release. But it is without doubt over priced.
They are charging full price for a game which has already had all of its story writing and core design done. How can anyone possibly justify charging the same as a brand new, never before released game. Shame, as it comes across as a rip off, regardless as to how much effort went into it.
The last of us is one of my favorite game series. If I get a ps5 before this comes out, I absolutely will buy and play it. I don’t understand why, however, soo many people seem insulted when others call this overpriced or a “cash grab”. Everyone is in their own situation financially and to many people, it sucks that this experience is locked behind what seems to be an exclusionary price tag. For many, paying $70 for Naughty Dogs next sequel/new IP probably seems fine. Paying that same amount for a remake of a game they may have bought twice already? I completely understand the groaning.
@Humaniac GTAV PS5 edition: $9.99.
TLOU PS5; $70.
See the difference?
I personally feel that the start of stray is a lot more tear jerking than this.
@LiamCroft this is the internet Liam, these people will believe anything and then sneer at you for not following...
This whole “controversy” is so stupid. These are huge companies that exist to make a profit literally everything they do is a “cash grab.” Play the game or don’t, end of.
Cool.yes a iconic scene.word up son
I believe it. In fact, I believe there are more "official unofficial" leaks that you are led to believe. Getting someone to "Leak" gameplay, images or rumours is Free Advertising and Promotion. One well placed leak and there's an avalanche of ever increasing chatter and commentary, on a whole bunch of blogs, feeds and news websites along with more speculation and searches. And bingo, you've just saved well over half, if not all, of your advertising budget. Job done.
@LiamCroft It's only an important scene as there's no real motive or story without it.
As a spoiler it's not a critical issue.
"I was wondering why a man would go on a deadly road trip with a young girl. Wait, what, it's because his daughter dies At The Beginning? Oh, no, this 'leak' has ruined the game for me. "
Knowing his daughter dies right at the very is no great shakes at all. In fact, it raises lots of intriguing questions
What are they running from?
Who are these armed men?
What's their connection to whatever it is the man and child is running away from?
why do they not care he is carrying an injured child?
Why do they shoot him without warning?
What are they afraid he might do/have?
Leakers are spoiling The Last of Us? This is horrible. What's next, are they going to spoil the next Skyrim remaster as well?
I'd be more concerned about the leaks suggesting its gameplay hasn't really changed, Naughty Dog won't care as they already have the diehard fans money before showing them a second of how this plays.
I do genuinely hope they have changed how it plays otherwise it would be a huge waste of time
I am very disappointed that a great game is coming back as a Polycollect game. Why are you asking for Polycollect's opinion? Of course it's going to suck...they didn't need to remake it.
A lot of gross attitudes in these comments
The gash on Joel's nose is missing until 0:32.
The door handle on the red door at the end of the hospital corridor is on the wrong side in the Part 1 PS5 trailer @ 4:57.
I demand a price reduction! 🤣
I’m holding out for the Last of Us Part 1 remaster. It’ll probably come out around 2024.
@Ambassador_Kong And the Leaker said theres no gameplay improvements.
And they still have the nerve to claim this is not a cash-grab…
So sad to see Naughty Dog spending all these resources in the most unnecessary “remake” of all time.
I’m playing a new drinking game. I’m going to take a shot everytime someone says “cash grab”.
@SuperPotato316 What bothers me is that Naughty Dog, the most prestigious studio in PlayStation or in the whole industry, has spent years developing a remake that nobody asked for, while we’re at least 2 years away from the factions multiplayer and even further away from a proper single-player experience from ND, at this pace we’ll see their next game by the end of the PS5’s generation…
@Resi32 that will be £69.99 please 😁😁👍👍
I'm personally looking forward to this. I was as surprised as the next person when they announced it was getting a PS5 remaster but for me, it will be great to play this again. I will also agree with the "nobody asked for this" comment but I think that's just because nobody expected it. I like being surprised.
I haven't played the game in years and I've only ever beaten it once. Frankly, I forget a lot of what happens so bring it on! Happily paying for it.
@ryanburnsred Im sorry how can you be so stupid it explains why Joel is like he is at the start of the game? And it even explains the end just as well its a essential scene.
@Flaming_Kaiser okay 😮💨🙄
@Phelaidar Except you're just flat out wrong. It's a remake, not just an upscale. TLoU Remastered was a remaster. Try to keep up, yeah?
I truly believe people are purposely shi*ting on this because its PS related or its ND or TLOU. If you don't like the game, played the hell out of the Remasterd Version, played it recently, the game is clearly not for you. Nobody is shoving it down anybodies throats. It is a new version of the game made for people who want to play it, and don't want to play a 9 year old PS3 game!
Calling it a cash grab might be correct for you, but it wasn't made for you. Instead you are clouding the comments section for everybody that wants to discuss the game. Do we need 200 comments saying the same thing? Especially when those people have no interest in the game?
Just think its funny how we get all these views and none of them are adding anything to the discussion or furthering anything. Its just "cash grab", "useless", "unneeded". Yes its strange for them to release the game near the same generation, but the PS4 release was a PS3 game upscaled. This is built from the ground up for PS5, looks better than TLOU 2, this is perfect for people like me who never played the story of the first one and it will link perfectly into my playthrough of the second one. Please just have constructive discussions.
@theMEGAniggle I would argue yes. It is imperative that those upset about this continuing trend of cashing in by reselling old content voice those frustrations and be heard. If you think developers don't pay attention to public discourse like this, you are very wrong.
These comment sections are absolutely for this very reason, discussion, not just cheerleading. The very real concern for this release in particular is massive and you are going to hear about it because there is such a significant amount of people questioning the need for this as well as the unverified claims regarding complete ground up overhaul, etc, etc.
Especially with ND,. whom just released a recent Uncharted cash grab that turned out to be little more than a framerate increase they charged for, whereas many others did such for free.
Just because you want to hear and reiterate nothing but sunshine and rainbows for Sony and its studios, others can be both fans and critical of concerning trends, anti-consumer behavior, rampant profiteering off old content, and lack of transparency. Especially in the case of this where they are charging full retail price.
The same people defending the $70 price will certainly hold out until the game's price drops to $20. Because they themselves cannot justify the full price for a remake.
Well, at least the PC gamers will get the best version possible without paying for the same game three times.
@theMEGAniggle "It is a new version of the game made for people who want to play it, and don't want to play a 9 year old PS3 game!"
The leaker of the above video said that there are no gameplay improvements beyond animations and audio. And Part 1 comes out in less than 2 months, and they've shown zero gameplay.
As things stand, it seems highly likely that you will actually be playing a 9 year old PS3 game, with PS5 graphics, and paying £70 for the privilage.
It just seems odd that people are lining up to pay £70 for a game they've not actually seen, but are convinced it will be worth it because they know it's derived from the original game, but also, that original game is not worth the £16 that the PS4 version costs and needs a new version, because it's old.
My friend tells me he has to grab the tissues when he looks at Joel daughter Sarah.
Sarah’s facial animation is noticeably improved. I can really see the pain in her face for the first time.
Never cared too much for this scene. Hard to care about characters you know next to nothing about.
@KundaliniRising333 "Just because you want to hear and reiterate nothing but sunshine and rainbows for Sony and its studios, others can be both fans and critical of concerning trends, anti-consumer behavior, rampant profiteering off old content, and lack of transparency"
So because I am stating that there are people who are looking forward to this game due to not wanting to play a 9 year old version, I cannot be critical of PS? Why does there always have to be one extreme or the other.
I have previously stated my concerns about the game, I am not a fanboy. I am frequently critical about Studios or PS as a whole. The matter of the fact is this, there are far far far more people who want to buy this game to experience it for various reasons than those who see it as a cash grab. Did you see Spider-Man Remastered as a cash grab?
Fun fact, Demon Souls PS3 and PS5 were released 11 years between each other. TLOU PS3 and PS5 9 years between. Is Demon Souls a cash grab? Stay consistent.
Furthermore, if you actually read my comment I was annoyed at the amount of unconstructive comments there were that were stating the same thing. I do not see why you saw it as a defense for all things PS.
@LiamCroft we are talking about an important opening scene of an almost decade old game that only the hardcore like us would find or see online. The casual first time Last of Us player won’t be along until the HBO series arrives, which is this is partly in preparation for if you consider the larger universe of cross media Sony wants to employ.
@Richnj Personally I haven't seen any actual gameplay so I can't speak on that. Have you?
So now you're playing he said she said. You're trusting the words of a leaker against the words of ND. Both just words. If the gameplay is similar to TLOU 2 (what everyone is expecting) then that's plenty of improvement?
Its a Rockstar situation, people don't have to see gameplay to know its going to be good. I agree though, pricing and lack of a gameplay trailer is killing me, but for this release I can waive it because it is going to be TLOU 2 gameplay and visuals but with TLOU 1 story + DLC 🤷♂️
I was going to wait for the remake to play this for the first time but decided to save £70 and start playing the remaster on ps+ last night, Really glad I did the game is good enough as it is and the price of the remake really is a bit severe even for Sony ☹️
Would have been such a long time until it reduced to a price point I considered ok it just wasn't worth waiting
@theMEGAniggle "If the gameplay is similar to TLOU 2 (what everyone is expecting) then that's plenty of improvement?"
When did ND say that Part 1 will have part 2 gameplay?, because I've been going back and can only find ND saying "modernised gameplay" which is rather vague. The whole part 2 gameplay comes from the fanbase's wishlist. So..
"You're trusting the words of a leaker against the words of ND"
I'm taking the words of someone who has seen the game against the lack of words of ND and the wishful thinking of the fanbase.
"Its a Rockstar situation, people don't have to see gameplay to know its going to be good."
Forgetting that Rockstar released the GTA trilogy in a state for a moment, it's not about the gameplay being good, it's about the gameplay being a significant and price worthy improvement over the original. Again, if it's not, then anyone who is currently claiming that the original isn't good enough, and needs this overhaul, will have played themselves.
If the leaker is correct, then we are going to see a lot of people complaining about putting down £70 for a PS5 remaster, or trying to pivot and justify the content being "worth the money" and "the gameplay holding up really well still" even though they once argued otherwise.
Do they not watermark the builds they use? Seems odd to me that this just gets leaked, with really no way to tell who did it... Very sus.
I’m so glad that this game is getting torched. I hope this flops insanely after what Neil did with part 2. Ruined Bruce’s work.
Meh, I’m good with the remastered version I have. If you don’t have the ps4 remaster and haven’t played tlou 1 or haven’t played it since ps3….. then by all means smash the pre-order button. Me? I’ll pass
I will just play devil's advocate here and state a more balanced POV. Cash grab? I mean, honestly, so what. This is literally how the entire world works. Every house sold in the last two years is a Cash Grab. Every time anyone puts something on Ebay, it's a cash grab. This is an opportunity for the developers to update graphics to a project, and yes, make more money from it. It doesn't require as much work, it's very low risk and potentially high reward. This is what anyone investing in the stock market is striving for, a CASH GRAB. Cash grab is not evil, and ND doesn't have to be punished for wanting more money out of their studio's hard work. If the game doesn't appeal to you, ignore it! The marketing will likely be focused on new players, new PS5 owners just being introduced to Playstation, and new fans they hope the HBO show creates.
TLDR: Not everything is for us enthusiasts, and we aren't entitled to releases of all AAA curtailed to our particular wants and desires. Yes, I've played and bought the TLOU twice already, if the gameplay isn't different enough it's a skip for me. I don't have an ounce of animosity toward ND for doing the project.
You not gonna report on how the leaker says they didn't change the gameplay too?
I adore TLoU but this remake is looking more pointless as time goes on.
@DETfaninATL are you joking or trolling like you did with part 2
@Ambassador_Kong are you people seriously still whining over a game you don't have to buy and no one is forcing you to buy it?
@Zombiechris Are people still whining about people whining about a game that they can still purchase even though the majority see it as a cynical cash grab?
It’s just a mob mentality. Pawns of ‘obscure powers’ 😅
@KingDazzar kind of weird how they also charge full price when a remaster of a music album or director’s cut of a movie is released even though all of the tracks and scene’s were already recorded. How about when they release a new version of software that’s built on the same framework of a previous iteration? It’s not like they always rewrite all the code for photoshop with each version, at least back when they did standalone builds. How about when they release a new version of a book with a new forward by the author for the same price as the original even though all the pages were already written? They literally do this in every creative industry.
Not going to watch it, I'll buy it for sure as the game is incredible and why not replay the best version of a great game. Will wait for discount though and for those who don't it will arrive on plus eventually. This really isn't that terrible.
60-70 pounds for this is a piss take. I love Naughty Dog games but I paid £40 at launch on PS3. I paid again for the PS4 remake which I think was around £30?? No way should I have to pay the asking price a third time for what is basically the same game at heart.
People who have purchased and played previously should be entitled to a far cheaper price.
@Zombiechris there will be people like me who have already paid twice on PS3 and PS4 remaster but would like to see and play the PS5 version....but full price is taking the piss. It should have an upgrade path for folk like me who have paid before(twice)
@DartLOD me too but it’ll still do well because it’s trendy and has casual appeal now. I’m out of this franchise after 2 however, garbage.
@Richnj Did I state that ND said that? All I said is that's what people are expecting & if it is then its a good improvement.
Rockstar didn't develop the GTA Trilogy so I don't know what you're talking about. This is going to be the best and most modern version of an already great game, so I'm not really playing myself here.
You do you, nobody is forcing you to buy the thing. I'll be paying £35 for this.
All hope is lost, saw a gameplay leak. Really ND?
Unfortunately, comparing anti consumer examples of greed with other examples of bad pricing, doesnt mean its fair and good for the customer. And just because something that is bad, is so widespread as to be perceived as normal. Is even more of a reason why its healthy that it's debated and challenged.
If you feel £70 is fair for this, good for you. That's great. I and many others dont. And I'm glad ND/Sony are being called out on it.
At this point, a great PR clean up would be "Day one free release on PS+ Extra tier" if this gameplay leak from 2020 is accurate to the final game.
@Zombiechris I think you have me mistaken with someone else - I have never played, nor ever commented on TLOU 2 in these forums.
As for my post above, I think it's pretty straightforward, but yes, this looks to be a ca$h grab from everything I can see.
I watched the two game play videos. The weapon wheel is TLOU2 style, that's cool. The AI do not seem to be much smarter but the person playing is playing on some listen-mode difficulty. Most importantly...WHERE is the dodge button? There is no dodge button on the screenshot of the controls
@KingDazzar How should a newly mastered record be priced ethically then if charging full price is anti-consumer? What 's the ethical metric for new iterations? Who sets that ethical metric? Do you set that metric? Does the government? If a bunch of people more than willing to pay 70 for the game think it's fair is Sony supposed to instead bend toward KingDazzar's opinion in spite of everyone else willing to pay? Companies in creative industries have every right to test the market to see if it will bare their pricing. This is a video game, not some necessary good the fulfills basic needs or saves life. It's entertainment. There's plenty of other entertainment and competition to keep prices fair. The price of this game will come down within 6 months. Even still 70 is not a lot for a video game, especially seeing as how games today require twice the development requirements as old games. Games were 40-60 in the flipping 80s. That would be like 120+ now. You've been getting games cheap this whole time due to marketing reasons. And there's an insane second hand market where you can get them even cheaper. Companies can charge whatever they want for intellectual property. This isn't like Martin Shkreli jacking up the price of Epi-Pen by 400% for a life saving medication.
Firstly, not everyone is willing or happy to pay it. So you're wrong. Its not just my personal opinion. Its shared.
Secondly, whilst inflation has changed profits, so too has volume. And on other titles there is dlc, microtransactions, loot boxes. Deluxe , Super Deluxe, Ultimate Editions. So its not a straight forward like for like equation. Even on this THIRD release there is a deluxe version for £80.
Bottom line, I and others dont think full price is the right call here. You do. We will never agree on this. And thats fine. Rejoice, Sony are pricing it just as you would like. Unfortunately for me they are not.
Enjoy the upcoming release.
@KingDazzar I never said everyone was happy to pay it. I said plenty of people are happy to pay it. Plenty of people will be eager to pay to play it day one. Which will be true until it won't be, and Sony will then lower the price.
You misunderstand. I don't like the pricing either. I would actually like the game for free. I would like all games for free. Additionally, everything for free would be even nicer. Everything in the world. I'm not being sarcastic. I'm being honest. I think most people would prefer free. But I simultaneously understand that's not the way the world works. Companies don't base pricing on a small minority. They use market based economics to maximize profits. So unless you'd prefer socializing the gaming industry and price fixing games then that's what we've got.
And, yeah, micro transactions and loot boxes suck. I don't play those games, and there's a huge demographic that doesn't want to play those games. There will always be plenty of people that don't want to game with that payment model. Play those games. Vote with your wallet. Deluxe and Ultimate editions are neither here nor there. Just don't buy them if you don't want what they offer. Some people want that stuff others don't, and that's fine.
Anyway, Sony doesn't care that you don't want to pay full price. They've done their market research and are willing to take the risk of charging full price. If it doesn't work out for them then you'll get to pay less sooner than expected. One way or another though you'll probably be able to play it for a pretty reasonable price within a year. Buy used. It's a great way to game cheap.
@Ambassador_Kong stick with the original problem solved buddy
@Mezzer oh I see
@DETfaninATL not cash grab plus who's forcing you to buy it?
@Zombiechris It's a cash grab, in mine (and other's opinions). Who's forcing you to reply to everyone who thinks that?
MSRP $70. So what.
The sale will be 40-50% off within months.
Every game ever made is a cash grab one way or another and it's not about your feelings.
Stop crying over it already, don't buy it, and get on with your lives.
@DETfaninATL Ok so don't buy it when it's out and quit whining about it on every post about it
@Zombiechris I have no intention of buying it so don’t worry about that. And I’ll make you a deal - you quit whining about others opinions (which they’re entitled to, BTW) on the matter and I’ll quit replying to you. Or do you care so much what we all think you can’t just leave it alone?
@DETfaninATL if y'all stop whining over dumb crap I will princess now come to daddy 😁
@Zombiechris LOL. Ah, name calling - the last stronghold of those that can’t buttress their viewpoint w/ logic, fact and reason.
@DETfaninATL so calling someone princess is name calling? Go back to school child
@Zombiechris Hahahahaha. WHO needs to go back to school?? Did you even read what you wrote?? “CALLING some a princess is name CALLING?” LMAO!!!! You can’t make this stuff up. And I am officially done with you. You can go ahead and snap back with your inevitable and predictable last word but I won’t be reading it, so enjoy.
@DETfaninATL you lucky this isn't Instagram or Twitter babe😊
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