The Last of Us: Part I is real and some PlayStation fans are still reeling. Many feel that, given the original PS3 version is only nine years old, this is an unnecessary project. Factor in the fact that The Last of Us Remastered was ported to the PS4 just a year after the original, and this project has been beset with criticism since the start.
But, having had time to ruminate on it, we wanted to share some thoughts in defence of the remake. Look, we get it: the original The Last of Us Remastered is still a great game – but, despite being less than a decade old, it is dated compared to The Last of Us: Part II. This is especially true when it comes to gameplay, with the sequel allowing for much greater mobility, which leads to vastly superior encounters.
Naughty Dog has kept the lid on a lot of the gameplay thus far, so it remains to be seen how many of the sequel’s mechanics will get added back into the original, but it’s already talking a good game. And look, while some people have used the PS3’s pre-rendered cutscenes to criticise the visuals of the remaster, there’s no question it looks much more photorealistic in realtime. We think the final product will surprise people.
Check out the Push Square YouTube channel video embedded above for our full thoughts. Ultimately, we understand the complaints about the price and the relatively quick turnaround of this remake, but we’re fairly confident they’ll erode once Naughty Dog reveals more of the project. Personally, we can’t wait to return to this stone-cold classic.
I don't think many people would have an issue with it, if it wasn't £70
It looks insane. Cannot wait.
@MatthewJP It is way too much, but because I love the game, I'll invest.
Just hope they somehow include add-ons inspired from the TV show.
That may be, hopefully, why the price is so high.
We shall see.
I mean it's a weird one for me, if I look at it in the context of what Nintendo do with their Switch releases of old games then its much better then them, certainly from how much work has gone into it. The problem is this gen thise waters have been muddied with free next gen updates of varying degrees of upgrades and small upgrade fees and now this at full price regardless. I still think there should be some kind of upgrade path for existing owners given we can already play this on PS5 with the same story and fundamentally same cutscenes.
On the positive side the visuals are hugely improved, its sequel had far superior gameplay so if the environments have been adapted to take advantage of that it should be great fun to play.
If I couldn't play the original at virtually 4K60FPS on my PS5 today, this would be a no brainer to buy, as is I keep swinging back and forth as to whether I'll get it at launch or wait for a sale
Great and thoughtful overview, Aaron. I do think the price is a little high personally, but I'm overwhelmingly confident in the product. It's going to be fantastic.
I really want to wait on this one until the price comes down. But… that will prove easier said than done! 🤩
@get2sammyb yeah that's it in a nutshell, I don't think anyone is any doubt this will be one of the very best games released this year, just whether it justifies that price when the other version is so cheap or if you have it already
I was a huge doubter of this remake when the rumors started floating around awhile ago, but after seeing the footage of the game I am sold.
Seventy. Pounds. What's worse is that it will stay at that price (digital) for at least another year.
If this wasn’t a Sony game I’d probably pass, but the Shadow of the Colossus and Demon’s Souls remakes were fantastic, so I’ll bite for this one. If it ends up to have not been worth it for me, then I’ll likely pass on the next remake they announce.
It is a great game and it deserves to be brought to a modern platform. Anyway without a ps4 or ps5 port people would moan that ps3 streaming sucks and why there is no option to play it on a ps4 or ps5 natively.
I would preorder it instantly if there was psvr2 support. But that seems unlikely ...
I'm not emotionally prepared to see Sara's death with the level of graphical realism that this remake will bring.
The only thing I have a problem with is the ridiculous price, I don't understand who would defend this being the same price as a say Last of Us 3. I will eventually play it either after a massive discount or on one of the Plus tiers.
You just want to hear me moan about the price again, don’t you!!
I get that you can compare it with other games that have had similar remakes in similar timeframes, and that it looks dated next to TLOU2 but:
•A remaster of a remaster of an original game, that still looks great, that is less than 10 years old and can be picked up and played on PS5 for less than a tenner
•Released to coincide with a TV series
No matter how you slice that, it’s hard not to be cynical.
But look, if you never played it before or you’re a massive fan, it probably represents good value, if you’re happy to ignore the fact the majority of the work was done in 2013 and has already been sold a couple of times at full price, but less than they are now asking.
@kyleforrester87 It's a remake.
I can't wait to stealth kill some clickers again in glorious sexy smooth PS5 graphics. This and GoW Ragnarok I'm equally hyped for both, can't wait
I replayed the first one only last August so need more time to pass before playing the remake. I definitely will at some point, then follow it up with Part II.
The price isn't right BUT like all things you have a choice and wait a while and it will come down in price. Unlike some other things in life such as petrol or mars bars.
After seeing what happened with the Witcher TV series and the Witcher 3, they know the TV series is gonna push a lot of traffic towards the game. If you've played it on PS3/4 then you don't need to buy it, but why not give people that have never played it the best version of one of the best games of all time. No, it's not needed but it does make sense for it to exist
Also, the cynic in me wonders if someone at Sony realised that they couldn't release Part II on PC until they released the first and the remaster, as good as it is, wouldn't cut it on PC.
Maybe it's also in part to build up the hype regarding Factions 2 or whatever it ends up being called.
"The Last of All of Us" could be a good title.
When Dead Space remake releases no one will moan about its full price despite both TLoU and Dead Space originally coming from the same gen. It is a bit hypocrite to moan at one remake and then not moan at the other remake. Just saying
It's creatively bankrupt,far too expensive for what is a game most people have bought at least once and naughty dog should be using there insane talents to make a new ip and not being shackled to the last of us
Well, I've pre-ordered it and am looking forward to playing it.
I'm confused as to why it isn't up for pre-order on Amazon UK yet though.
@Beerheadgamer82 there hasn't been a remaster of dead space already.This will be the 3rd version of the last of us in 9 years
I last played it on PS3 and was very happy with that version. I have zero interest in playing slightly better looking versions of it every few years for silly full prices.
@ROTTIEMAN16 the 2014 remaster of TLOU is a remastered version of the 2013 original and the 2022 version of TLOU is a remake, remastered and remake are completely different. Even if Dead Space did a remaster on PS4 and now they're doing a Dead Space remake no one would be complaining still
@Beerheadgamer82 Not even close to being the same situation. First Dead space has not left the PS3 till now. TLOU is currently playable on your PS5 while it still looks and plays great (plus it included MP!)
Dead Space is also from a ground up remake, they will probably change some of the characters, enemies and story around while TLOU is the exact same game just looks prettier with some control changes (and minus Factions!).
@bpomber Get ready for another try not to cry video
The main draw for a Remake to me comes down to two things.
1. Is the game difficult to find and play? (Well legally anyway)
2. Are the gameplay mechanics so old that it is difficult to go back to?
Demons Souls was difficult to find and play as it was only on PS3. It also played rough because of the fact you couldn't dodge diagonally.
Resident Evil 2 also made sense to remake as it originally used fixed cameras and tank controls. Old mechanics that are very difficult to grasp in this day and age.
The Last of Us is readily available, mechanically sound, and still a masterpiece to this day. If being able to go prone and jump is the bar we are setting for saying something is out of date...I don't even know what to say to that. That's just crazy!
I love The Last of Us but I can't pretend like this isn't a blatant cash grab. I get the financial incentive for Playstation to do this, but that doesn't make it feel any better. The $70 price tag with no upgrade path is just the cherry on top. It just feels bad man.
Yeah, but Dead Space is 14years old and has had two sequels, plus the series has been dead (excuse the pun) for 9years.
The last of Us came out 9years ago, was remastered 8years ago and its sequel only came out less than 2years ago.
These two franchises are hardly in the same realms of neccessity.
Anyone who preorders a game in this digital age is not very smart. In all honesty I think £50 would be a fair price. Considering factions is missing and it's a remaster.
Yeah it could do with being 10 or 20 euro cheaper, but feck it. I'm all in.
A lot of people will be coming to this for the first time from the TV show. I'm sure ND will want them to see the best version of the game possible.
@Juanalf it's not Naughtydogs fault Dead Space didn't get a PS4 remastered version. So by your logic because TLoU got remastered in 2014 it doesn't deserve to get a PS5 remake
Release it day 1 on PS+ extra/premium and I think a lot of the haters will stop hating.
@Korgon Tbh, the controls of the original RE2 don't bother me. If people were able to learn and adapt to Fromsoftware's game difficulty and the boxy feel with FPS games today for the first time then they can learn to adapt and invest in the same amount of time with this. It's actually the camera angles and item management system that turns me off with investing that the remake handles better.
But yeah, the problem with this remaster is "Who asked for it?" The PS4 remaster still looks good, has more content with the MP. But I guess the time it'll take overhauling TLOU with TLOU2's new system and accessibility features on top of the higher RES has to be paid for somehow. If this came with TLOU Part 2, there wouldn't be as much complaints.
to be fair, if it cost less, I don't think many people would complain as much. I'm just going to wait for a discount on a disc based version.
It's an attempt to ask console players to subsidize an engine port so they can sell it on PC (for cheaper), and an attempt to reset the pricing from low to high for an older game during a time they know interest will be high during the TV show. There's nothing creative here, it's all stone-cold business and money, in the sort of way that doesn't feel good at all to existing customers.
It's at this moment I realized that PlayStation fans are the biggest Nintendo fans of all. The company, not the content.
I am undecided.
It's really about price for me. I still think the whole $70 price tag is garbage - even for brand new games (you can sit and justify it all you want, I still won't change my mind on that).
Of course, the situation is more dire over on your side of the pond as £70 makes it an $85 game!
I may just throw it on the ole Christmas list rather than buy it. Time will tell.
Don't get me wrong I wish it was like 44.99 or 49.99 instead of full price 70. At least they also decided to remake the standalone dlc expansion Left Behind with it. My best guess right now about the TLoU is Naughtydog said they've expanded making more games so I'm thinking they want to have everything about TLoU on this gen including part 3. Part 1 remake, part 2 PS5 remastered maybe bundled in with next years multiplayer, a new IP and then finish this gen with part 3 in 2027 maybe. So that would mean you can have the very best of TLOU all on one console plus the TV series to go along with it all. The most important thing to many including myself would be their new IP?
ah dang it i love last of us 1 close to perfect il buy this day one , don't buy it dont buy it il be chanting as i click buy now 😂
If you need to make a video with that title, it means its existence is at least a bit questionable.
@Pat_trick I'm sure the PS staff will pass around their free copy to avid website readers once they've finished with it, save us paying £70 too
When TLOU Remastered released on PS4, I played about 3 hours of it, and then put it down. Fast forward to 2020 (or was it 2021?) when TLOU2 was added to PS Now, and I skeptically downloaded it…tried it…and played all the way through it after work, night after night for about a week. I was completely blown away by the graphics and gameplay.
I then went back to my saved game on TLOU, and…meh. I struggled to regain my interest in it. TLOU looked great compared to any other PS4 game, but not to TLOU2. TLOU2 isn’t just ANY game. The graphics and feel of TLOU didn’t hold a candle to TLOU2. TLOU’s story was great—arguably better than TLOU2, but it was inferior to TLOU2 in every other way…by a large margin.
My point is this: Original TLOU players ripped on TLOU2 because they didn’t like where the story went. BUT, if they went back to play TLOU again after TLOU2, they would’ve immediately stopped complaining about TLOU2. TLOU2 it’s what you want going forward—the graphical realism of the character models—wow!
I DO think it’s way too soon to remake TLOU for ME to play again so soon, but by the time it’s actually released in a year or two, an entirely new generation of players will be new to it, and they’ll LOVE IT! Old players of TLOU will love it, too, because it won’t show it’s age like it foes now. Will I buy it? Of course.
Naughty Dog imho is THE BEST video game developer for ANY system, and they have been the best since the second Uncharted game was released on the PS3. They could make a game about baking brownies and it’d be a compelling ride from the grocery shelves to the hand mixer and on through the oven flames.
The games of the previous generations are always (with a few exceptions) inferior. If we're going to use this as an excuse, then we're just going to do remakes from now on.
They've literally removed the best bit.
Hey I tip my hat to you. I've tried multiple times to play the older style RE games but I'm just terrible at tank controls! But your right the item management could also be difficult compared to modern standards.
If you gave 90 minutes of part 2 then you havent even started the game literally.
Do yourself a favor and play the game.
The more I think about it…. THIS game has early inclusion on psPlus upper tiers written all over it
Should have gone straight to the subscription service
I'll be getting it. Huge fan of the series. Don't respect the uproar from the last game.
Would not buy even for 20 let alone 70. But that's just me.
While I get the point being made in this article. There's one thing people haven't really mentioned. The last of us part 2 is still a native PS4 game. It will undoubtedly get a PS5 upgrade and will likely get a part 1 and 2 collection.
I would hold off a bit and wait for that and I'm also betting they'll package both for £70 or £80 probably around the time the tv show is about to come out. Much like the Nathan Drake collection and the uncharted movie.
Part 1 is likely to lose value pretty fast, I mean look at the legacy of thieves which came out at the end of January. It's only £22 now!
Plus both of those games are newer than the last of us part 1.
In a 25 hour game is 90 minutes like not even started.
If you dont have interested in these games why are you even in this article?
Just gonna point out that Resident Evil 2 remake and Mafia: Definitive Edition was priced at €39.99 on release.
This is just Sony being Sony and trying to milk their customer base as much as possible with the TV Show also coming out. I have no idea why a logical person would defend the price point.
Imo they did this Remake not so much for PS5, but as to prepare it for launching on PC. That is the untapped market for this game variant, and it had to look the part to warrant the full price.
God Of War's best looking version is on PC, they could not have done any less with another of their masterpieces, TLOU Part 1... Remastering the Remaster, continuing to keep using the PS3 game as a base moving forward, wasn't gonna cut it... Remaking it from the ground up was the only option.
Alas, having played the game 3 times already, I won't be paying full price for it, no matter how good it looks - will wait for a hefty discount.
The only Remake I would play full price for is Bloodborne... but that's nowhere to be found. Perhaps sometime in the future...
Just give a few months to a year after release then hit up eBay. Can't remember the last time I paid full price for any new release.
@kyleforrester87 AND THEY REMOVED MULTIPLAYER!
70$ for this is a joke and is such a waste of talent.
No MP, a Deluxe Version, £70 and from looks of things just prettier visuals of a game that still looks amazing and plays well. I'm not against remakes and remasters and will defend them but this one just feels pointless, bit of a con and well lazy.
You know GTA V and Skyrim got stick for their current versions but at least Skyrim was free if you owned it on PS4/X1 and GTA V charged a small upgrade fee. They didn't charge £70, an extra 10 for a Deluxe version and then remove content. This isn't like Demons Souls either as the PS3 version is really dated, there's no PS4 version and Bluepoint made it look like one of the best looking games out there while giving it QoL upgrades and some new content like weapons and armour.
@gaston TLoU has a remaster on PS4 and it looks fantastic even now, anyone that wants to play this can on PS5 with ease.
If the work is put in, there is no reason it shouldn't come with a price tag that supports it. That being said knowing how the current financial climate is it wouldn't have hurt to get a little more bang for your buck , for instance if this bundle included a ps5 version of the last of us 2 i don't think anyone would bat an eye at this.
Jesus Christ we're going round in circles here!
Pay it or don't. Buy it or leave well alone. Stop with the bloody outrage all the time.
The development of the remake hasn't impacted upon the development of any new title from ND. And if you have no interest in this game, good for you. I'm probably not interest in what you like either.
@MatthewJP considering that many people had an issue with it before its price was even announced, I don't think the price is the issue for them.
I don’t get what people continue to complain about when it comes to this generation of gaming. If you don’t want to pay full price, wait a a few months and get it on sale and keep checking those backlog games off your list while you wait. If you are a massive fan of the series (like me), then I find value and entertainment in the remake and will gladly invest money into it. Enough of the whining people and just enjoy the hobby. There are enough bad things happening in the world to complain about.
If Nintendo can charge full price for basic ports then I don't see the problem, atleast sony have put in some actual effort
@ApostateMage Unfortunately since millions of people are going to blindly buy it cause "Muh gwaffics."
Not a chance in hell for £70!
Sony is taking you all for mugs and getting praised and encouraged for the most part.
@UltimateOtaku91 So your defense is if Nintendo is allowed to rip off it's costumers why can't Sony? Not the most glowing of defenses.
Well if people want to spend full price on a blatant cash grab then is fine is their money afterall, just don't pretend it isn't overpriced when you're paying more than what you paid for TLOU remastered with much less game (the MP is almost half the game for me)
People are totally missing the point here. As previous reports have alluded to, this project has two internal goals which totally justify its existence:
1) ND has multiple teams working on multiple projects. Games development is a multi-stage process, so sometimes it is necessary to occupy a given team with some interstitial job while another team completes their own. Say, programmers may need to wait for writers or artists to finish their work before they can participate. It's smart management.
2) TLoU Part 1 was a way for the engineering team to get up to speed with the PS5 hardware. As was the case with the remaster on the PS4. It's the perfect opportunity for engine migration since the core elements of the game were already done.
Sure, $70 is a little steep but this doesn't look like some throw away project. If there's any studio that delivers on prime quality, it's Naughty Dog. And if there's any game that is worth that price tag, it's The Last of Us.
I'm perfectly happy with the remaster & dont have a ps5 anyway if people want to buy it fair enough 🤷♂️
@get2sammyb will there be a port for part 2 for the ps5
@kyleforrester87 be pretty s**** if they delist the remaster on ps5 so you have to buy the new more expensive version
@Tecinthebrain the remastered version was just higher resolution and bundled with the dlc, this is a an actual remake from the ground up so of course its costing them way more money to make than the remastered version did. Its not just a "quick" cash grab that people think it is, its cost them a lot of money and time to develop
@UltimateOtaku91 You mean it cost them money and time for training and r&d they want whales to pay for and moving the game to the new engine for PC release and PS owners are suckers enough to fund it. Unfortunately they're right. Enough will.
@Would_you_kindly Of course they're going to do that, that's half the point! If blowback is greater than expected, then they'll "fix the error on the store" and people here will tell everyone they overreacted and it was all an honest mistake.... We've danced to this tune before...
I would've rather seen a half-hearted Jak 4, personally. Or a neat little side project. Really, about anything would be a better use of resources, in my eyes.
@BartoxTharglod exactly it's such a bizarre argument to say "why are you even here if you don't see the subject matter in a positive light" it's an article in defense of a contentious release.
The comment section isn't there for fan humans alone. It's there to discuss. What would be the point if only to have a bunch of Sony or ND cheerleading/marketing for them.
AND LET'S BE HONEST, THAT'S WHAT THIS ARTICLE IS. MARKETING. ALONG WITH ALL THE ARTICLES DEFENDING STARFIELD POST THAT JANKY REVEAL. IT'S CREATOR INFLUENCED MARKETING.
This remaster of a remaster is a gluttonous cash grab to keep revenue coming in with then least possible developement effort and thus cost. It is terrible for the future of the industry and those that write articles or post comments minimizing and justifying such are literally aiding in the destruction of creative new content.
To ask full ps5 retail price for this remaster using the engine in tlou2 is insulting. To pay it is embarrassing. When this releases and you see it is nothing more than a visually improved copy of an already remastered game, thus having to deceptively suggest it a remake. Then what.
Anyways I digress, how's your night going?
Out of principle I wont buy a third copy of The Last of Us. It just isn't necessary.
Lazy Cash Grab, hard pass.
A game that is a linear story doesn't really have high replayability. It is like a movie. It doesn't make sense to buy it again.
I know a lot of people like to hate on it and think it's a waste of time and resources but ND are working on other projects too and this gives some of their developers something to work on until they are needed elsewhere.
The remake looks amazing so far. The price puts me off but I see myself playing it at some point. Love the first game so much I could replay it over and over.
There is nothing wrong with the remastered version so for most people that's all anyone needs. But the remake breathes new life into the game and will reach out to a new audience. Will pull in some hardcore fans too that want to play a better version of it. Price is steep for now but it won't be forever. So for anyone that doesn't want to buy it, stick with the remastered version! It's still a great game and there's nothing wrong with it. Treat it as if this remake never happened and enjoy the remaster one instead. ND are still working on the new projects so nothing is being lost.
What other AAA title have been remade from the ground up and sold for less than a new IP/sequel ?
I really don't see the problem people are having. How about not buying it or wait for a discount?
Why would I? It was 'free' with the PS5.
Some Ps3 era games would really benefit rom a remake, e.g. Demon Souls sure did, Dark Souls would, but some were pretty enough.
I would personally rather teams concentrate on PS2 era games, where the concept may have been spot on (RE2, RE4) but the technology at the time just couldn't do it justice.
Interesting video @AaronBayne. TLOU is also one of my favourite games too.
I agree that lots of the gameplay in particular has aged. However I don't think they are going to change this up much, if at all, for exactly the reasons you said, the level design is built around the characters skillset, enemy AI etc. If they change the skillset or AI they need to change the level design too or it won't be cohesive. We haven't seen that at all, so far we've seen an almost shot for shot remake.
Graphically TLOU: Remastered still holds up really well. Have graphics leaped since then? YES but not by THAT much, it's also not the most important thing in this game. It seems mostly unnecessary to rebuild this on PS5 to me just for higher fidelity.
I honestly believe they are doing this more for the following reasons:
1) To sell TLOU on PC for the first time
2) To have a TLOU product release near the TV show
3) To sell TLOU2 Directors Cut on PS5 and PC in a year or so
Then there's cost. Frankly it is insulting that they are selling this for £70 with a £80 Digital Deluxe edition. Even more so that they don't seem to offer any upgrade path either. If it were £40 with a discount for previous buyers I think people would be a lot more receptive. The final insult will be if the also remove TLOU Remastered from sale and from the PS+ Game Collection, which I fully expect to happen. The original should be preserved too.
I'd dearly LOVE to be wrong on all this and would like to have a good reason to buy this again, but that's just not how I see it right now from what they have shown us.
Ultimately I've bought this game twice already but won't be buying it again until at least a deep deep sale... unless they can demonstrate why this is worthwhile, especially at that price. More likely I will eventually buy it second hand as that explicitly doesn't benefit this sort of business practice which I don't want to support.
BEST EXPLANATION EVER GOOD JOB
It has huge change between remastered and remake, like rebuild from the ground like new motion capture and sound system and graphic and texture and details, if you don't focus or don't look close on the trailer you can't see the changes, maybe you're talking or thinking about CAPCOM or other gaming company when they remake the old one of games they had before FOR EXAMPLE : old Resident evils when they remake they need big changes like change building or editing dialogs and change old charecter to new one with new graphic and new engine, and they need hard work because they are so old, and they need hard work for rebuild it but TLOU is kind a like new game isn't old enough, and this game don't need big changes and that game's story or dialog are very perfect enough they can't edit it because it's perfect enough for this generation but TLOU remake is so perfect and best remake ever and about the price, truth $80 is a lot, but you must not buy it immediately you can buy it with discount, so that is my remark for this remake, and you are free you can choose which ways you like it, so I'm so glad to see your comment on my post sorry for any mistakes, in the end thanks for playstation and naughty dog for this remake, I've been waited for 2 years for this moment, when I played part 2, and I was thinking about part 1 and ask myself (can I see part 1 again with same as part 2 graphic ?) I love this game so much, So thanks again
If there was a PS5 upgrade for like, a tenner or so, I might be tempted to go in on it.
@Beerheadgamer82 There's key differences between Dead Space and TLOU1.
1) Dead Space seems more like a remake, where TLOU1 seems more like an enhanced remaster. Dead Space actually sounds like it's being built from the ground up with a brand new camera system for cutscenes to have that one camera look, where as we've seen that TLOU1 is straight up using the old cutscenes.
2) Dead Space never had an 8th gen remaster. People were only sold Dead Space once back in 2008, and haven't been sold the game since then.
3) Dead Space released 5 years prior to TLOU. Dead Space 3 (the game that killed the franchise) released before TLOU did. The franchise was dead before TLOU even hit the shelves.
people are acting like they've seen the full remake of last of us 1 already even though they've only shown off a single trailer atm.
@Richnj I don't agree with all 3 of those points you make. Only thing I agree on is the difference between both DS and TLoU remakes but you are trying to make TLoU sound like a lazy easier to do remaster when it's clearly not a remaster. Because a game was released 5 years before a different game or because a game received a remaster before a remake doesn't justify one being remade more than the other. Even if Dead Space 1 originally released in 2013 on PS3 and then DS gets remastered on PS4 in 2014 and then DS gets a remake on PS5 in 2022 no one would be complaining still
@redinproductions " if you don't focus or don't look close on the trailer you can't see the changes, "
I think you accidentally just nailed the very reason it's a controversial $70 "improvement"
@Beerheadgamer82 "Even if Dead Space 1 originally released in 2013 on PS3 and then DS gets remastered on PS4 in 2014 and then DS gets a remake on PS5 in 2022 no one would be complaining still"
You have no way of knowing that. You could have used RE4, because it at least has been Remastered and Remade, andthat hasn't had the same level of criticism as TLOU, but it has still been criticised.
"it's clearly not a remaster"
Actually, it isnt. A remake is all new assets. Like RE1 remake. A remaster builds upon the existing game, and assets are improved though some assets remain.
You look at RE1, 2, 3, and 4, and look at their remakes. Now look at the TLOU and TLOU pt1. This game looks like it's been built on the bones of the original game.
Do you think they recreated all the cutscene mocap and VO work? Or do you think they are reusing the assets?
@Richnj Naughtydog are using the same engine they made part 2 with so that would class it much more as a remake. Crash Bandicoot N Sane trilogy is classed as a remake despite that trilogy being like for like to the originals on all levels. RE4 clearly gets away with the remake with it being made on older tech that released before the PS3 or 360 even existed
@Beerheadgamer82 Dead Space is a proper remake though. This is the same game as The Last of Us 1 just with newer graphics.
Yeah, Demon's Souls PS5 was the same but that was a remake of a 13 year old game from the PS3 era, built on an entirely new engine.
Isn't this still the Last of Us' engine just updated? It just seems like a heavily remasted version of an already remastered game avaliable already on PS5...
@IonSur part 1 remake is being made on part 2 engine which is not the same engine part 1 was originally made on. None of us has seen any real part 1 remake gameplay yet or what it feels like to actually play. You can argue all you want about Dead Space remake or Demon Souls remake looking more like a remake than what part 1 remake currently looks like. The facts are all 3 games originally released on the same gen regardless if one looks more like a remake than the other. I know exactly what the differences are between a remake and remastered. The 2014 remaster of TLOU released only a year after its 2013 original and I think it was 49.99 and I also remember no one complaining at the 50 price tag for just a slightly more polished game
@Beerheadgamer82 Crash was all new tech and all new assets.
Moving engines isn't totally uncommon, and on its own, doesn't classify as a remake. Fortnite changed engines. It's not a remake of itself.
@Richnj have you seen proper gameplay yet of part 1 remake or have you actually played part 1 remake yet
I wouldn't mind continuing this on a later Push Square post after we've seen actual gameplay of it or actually played part 1 for ourselves. My bath is ready now I gotta jump in
It suddenly occurred to me - we want this. That's why we get upset at its price tag.
I'm happy for the new comers to PS5 who wouldn't have to put up with the remaster which is beginning to look rather rough by PS5 standards.
Played the original and loved it. I'm not going to pay full price for the same thing again but with prettier graphics. It's pretty scummy on ND's behalf imo, this could have been £20-30 cheaper.
I have never known a game to get so much hate(+ Part 2)??? I know why tho because 'YOU KNOW WHO'(Xbo...) just are scared of how popular this franchise is & they just want to destroy it. Oh well(it looks FANTASTIC anyway)
@NEStalgia i know, i said about that before, if you read it before you understood what i said, i said if you won't buy TLOU PART 1 with 70$ you can buy it with discount
@WallyWest Indeed. I played TLOU on PS4 (my first playstation). I don't think the higher resolution and the other improvements would interest me enough to get the PS5 version at 70$. This is mostly for people who never played TLOU (e.g. people attracted by the HBO adaptation). However, if the PS5 version is also playable in VR, I would even preorder (and then wait impatiently ...)
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