With Microsoft’s near-$70 billion buyout of Activision Blizzard, all bets are basically off the table. While you could explain away Bethesda’s acquisition as an anomaly – it was a struggling publisher that was privately owned – it’s clear that we’re now waist-deep in an industry consolidation era. Other publishers will be bought, it’s just a question of when.
The Financial Times (paywall) tips giant Electronic Arts to be next, although given its focus on multiformat sports franchises – and its precarious position with the FIFA license – a suitor is harder to determine. As we’ve seen with MLB The Show 21, it’s hard to keep these franchises exclusive, as typically rights agreements hinge on the games being as widely available as possible.
EA owns a number of juggernaut brands outside of the sports sector, including The Sims and Apex Legends. However, while it will continue to make Star Wars games, that license has now been shared around with other third-parties, including Ubisoft. The Financial Times hypothesises that the likes of Apple, Amazon, Google, and even Netflix could be potential suitors.
With an enterprise value of $38 billion, it’s highly unlikely we’d ever see Sony tabling a bid, although the Financial Times does argue that the Japanese giant may be “on the lookout to build up its portfolio of exclusive games”. It seems unrealistic to us: the real worry here is that the other major tech firms get spooked by Microsoft’s big money moves, and begin to gobble up what’s left.
AFAIK Microsoft paid 45% premium for Activision Blizzard even though they were as cheap as they were ever going to be. They have the cash to buy EA and Take Two, but I hope that the government doesn't allow it. Sony should try to buy Square Enix or Capcom.
I'd argue that a EA takeover is very unlikely; however after Activision's acquisition anything seems possible nowadays
Funny thing is the core talents at individual studios usually leave to setup studios leaving you with an empty shell. Like the Founder of Arkane (Bethesda) leaving with a few talents to setup Wolfeye Studios.
@fido Yes, this is it, really. If you'd have asked me about Activision Blizzard last week I'd have said it's impossible. Now they've been bought, basically everyone is available.
How likely is this to happen?
I could see Tencent or someone doing it, but could MS do it?
Surely we're at a point now where they would be blocked from taking over any more of the massive publishers by anti-trust laws.
Activision's shareholders wanted to sell. They were sick of the dumpster fire.
Bethesda/Zenimax were struggling, and needed the backing.
Does EA want to be bought?
If Microsoft got EA that would be COD and FIFA
Now that crowd will go to whatever console that is on if it went exclusive.
If that was the case and it went Xbox exclusive, Sony would slightly become like Nintendo and end up being an exclusive AAA in house purchase, like most by switch for Mario kart etc.
I think sony would be better off buying the companys EA own (subsidiaries i think is the word lol) than takeover EA itself. I think that would be the best tactic honestly.
Why do people act like Sony is a poor company? Sure they don't have money to piss away like MS. But they can certainly buy EA if they felt they could use their IP and tech.
I am hoping MS stops with these big buys. Everyone praises them but I see it just destroying the gaming community. They are doing what they did in the PC world. When they can't beat you they just buy you or everything out around you too win.
@Dezzy70 FIFA license means they're obligated to release on all viable platforms, I believe. (Hence why you even still get those crappy Legacy Edition ports on Switch.)
Of course, FIFA license may not be renewed anyway.
@Stoffinator I was saying this to the rest of the team earlier in the week. It's weird writing articles like Sony is poor because obviously they have plenty of money behind them.
But the reality is that they simply can't compete with buyouts of this obscene scale. I read a stat the other day which I'd need to fact check, but it basically said that the $70 billion buyout of Activision Blizzard is more than the Xbox division has generated across its entire 20 year history.
I think things like that, assuming it's true, are sobering.
@Stoffinator They can't buy EA. They might be able to buy Square Enix or Capcom though.
@get2sammyb "the $70 billion buyout of Activision Blizzard is more than the Xbox division has generated across its entire 20 year history."
Infinite money cheat. fml.
@Stoffinator because Sony, to buy EA would need to do a leveraged buy out which is inherently dangerous.
Sonys free cash flow is around 20bn I believe so they'd need to effectively mortgage themselves.
Its a much bigger risk when Microsoft has piles of money to burn.
Square or Sega is more affordable.
@Bismarck i feel like Konami and Sega are safer bets honestly. Though Capcom would be a great acquisition.
The mischievous side of me would find a world where EA were bought by Sony - and FIFA became a PS exclusive - quite funny. The millions of people who buy consoles mostly just to play FIFA, CoD and GTA wouldn't know what to do! If GTA could then become a Nintendo exclusive...
(Note: I am aware that none of the above will actually happen)
IMO, Sony should focus on acquiring individual studios rather than publishers.
Remedy, Supermassive, Bungie, Quantic Dream, etc…
And as I said in another comment, revive/reboot some of your older IP.
@Dezzy70 in the article and in my experience from other articles more times than not they cant make a sports game exclusive because the players union bargains for it to be more available to more players so even if microsoft were to buy ea fifa or madden or nhl wouldnt be exclusive because the players union wouldnt allow it
@get2sammyb You are right and that is why I find it rather scary that MS is doing it. People think its going to make Xbox better. MS doesn't give a rats ass about the console. It's the service. They want it all digital. And want it everywhere. Like their Windows you don't actually own anything, you just rent they OS.
@Danloaded I think Konami is horrible. They won't get devs, just ip. They need more games. Sony has enough good IPs already. Unless they also buy hideo kojima, I don't see it being worth it.
Sega is honestly too niche with its games. Yakuza, Sonic, Persona don't pull those big numbers.
Square Enix - they already have final fantasy as an exclusive, but they may be interested in Tomb Raider, Dragon Quest and Nier (they should buy Platinum Games tho).
I think the best get is Capcom. Resident Evil and Monster Hunter fill genres SONY needs and they're massive. They will probably pull 10million users or more to stay on playstation. They get talented devs. They could make Devil May Cry bigger, they have a new ip coming (Pragmata). Dragon Dogma fills that RPG sony needs. I think Capcom would be the best get. They get a fighting game they lack of and could make ps all stars.
Capcom is the perfect buy if anything.
Funny how it's one of the cheapest.
There's also Bandai if they wanted to get bigger on Japan, but I don't think they will spend that much.
@Bismarck Pretty sure if they wanted too, they could buy EA. But it put a big dent in their over all business. But they would gain a lot of IP and tech.
I rather neither MS nor Sony buy such. It will kill the industry.
@Dezzy70 thats why mlb the show went multi platform because the mlbpa bargained that with either the studio or the players union at least thats what i read somewhere
Well I'm sure the courts would block Microsoft from making another purchase of that size so soon or if at all.
So my money is on Apple or Google
Also, surely sony is richer than Netflix?
I'm not sure if EA or its IPs are exactly good fits for what PlayStation focuses on. (Mostly third person story-driven experiences). Although they have a bunch of promising IPs, Mass Effect included.
As @Bismarck said, I think PlayStation/Sony could do a lot better with aquiring Square Enix, considerign Final Fantasy is a big franchise on PlayStation already.
@solocapers Sega to me isn't worth it. None of their IP are that big. Square is fine, but most of the stuff is exclusive (talking FF etc). Capcom would be good but still not great IMO.
Ubisoft would be good. I have no idea what their total value is worth but not cheap either.
The reasoning behind the "Tencent is the biggest games company by revenue" doesn't really account for them being massive players in the mobile phone space. Something like 8 of the top 30 highest grossing mobile games of all time have their hands on them. So with this in mind, any ventures by them in the console and PC space come through Epic Games. They have a storefront of their own with paid exclusives of their own, so they have no real reason to compete in the sense of buying studios left right and centre. Google has shown no signs of increasing their first party output, Amazon is in a weird spot, in that they haven't established themselves hard enough just yet to be able to make a big move like this. All three would likely be a neutral third party that would make games for all platforms. Microsoft is basically starting an arms race that nobody has any real interest in joining. Doubly so when it's said that Bobby Kotick put the word out for potential buyers that weren't Microsoft and nobody was interested.
@Stoffinator Sony doesn't have the 50-60billion in cash that would be needed to buy EA. Keep in mind that EA might be even more expensive if they don't want to be acquired.
@RevGaming I know it's a cliche, but I think KJP is as good a PlayStation studio already. They work on a PlayStation engine (Decima) and Death Stranding, although available on PC, is no where to be found on Xbox after 3 years.
@XOF If Square and FF is so big for Sony already. Why own them? But billions out to own something that sells the most on your platform already. Sony really does need a FPS. They relied on COD when Resistance and Killzone were put to rest.
EA, affordable or not, would give them Medal of Honor and a bunch of other IP. Ubisoft might fit them more with the third person games. Might help them break the Ubisoft repeat formula.
But maybe Sony doesn't need to buy anyone big. They can buy a few more smaller and newer teams and get some new IP out there. They spent years in the PS3 generation building their first parties. People often forget that and just see what MS Owns.
What about Sony acquiring Epic Games? Sure they don't own many IP but the tech with Unreal would benefit no?
The general rule of thumb is a 30% buy fee on a company to buy it out.
EA is not going to Sony that's for sure.
Capcom is the best one and it's one of the cheapest.
Fighting game - Street Fighter (Potential PS all stars)
RPG - Dragons Dogma
Co-op/Multiplayer/RPG - Monster Hunter
Horror - Resident Evil (Dino Crisis could happen)
Sci-Fi - Pragmata
and Devil May Cry.
It's the best deal lol. EA fifa and madden cannot be made exclusives. Same thing with nba2k with take two and they will cost a LOT.
@Stoffinator Not worth it. Fortnite will never be turned to exclusive.
@Stoffinator Epic's whole business model (with the Unreal Engine anyway) is to be on every platform as a tool for developers.
Buying out Epic makes no sense as you lose its value by making it exclusive. Not to mention Epic's only big IP is really the Unreal series (which they've left to rot ) Fortnite and the Unreal Engine.
The reason Microsoft is buying out publishers is to make them exclusive to Gamepass.
EA makes no sense for anyone since the sports rights are generally agreed on the basis of being multiplatform.. Thats why they push out the half baked FIFA on the switch.
Take 2 (although they have a similar problem as above with 2k games), Ubisoft, Square and Sega are the 4 big targets that'll be looking over their shoulder from a buyout.
@XOF They can, but they need more than Kojima. Asobo, Techland, Platinum Games and Remedy would help.
From what's been reported, Activision were looking for a buyer, they wanted to sell. Some of these other companies don't have the legal/leadership issues that Activision had and now everyone knows microsoft are spending, the price will go up for every company! Its like the football transfer market inflation after Man U bought Pogba 😂
If we’re being honest, the only companies Microsoft seems to be acquiring have all been American based companies haven’t they? Correct me if I’m wrong. Realistically I don’t see Sony having any interest in buying EA. I could see them buying Square Enix, Konami or Capcom before EA, though I’d see Square being more likely considering the business relationship they’ve had with them that’s seemed to be going pretty strong since the PSX days.
News sites are reporting that EA and Facebook were in the running to buy Activision before Microsoft outbid them, so why would EA now be rumoured to be for sale if they were just trying to buy Activision
If Sony is on the lookout to buy someone, they should look at smarter and more affordable options. Capcom and Squenix make a lot more sense for example, not only are they far cheaper than the likes of Acti and EA, but their output also feels more at home with PlayStation.
@Medic_Alert "Build your hardware around the games you want to make and not what people think you should do because engines now are so so scalable and the diminishing returns are real."
Nintendo execs are sitting there reading this with a smug grin on their faces.
@Medic_Alert You already need to buy everything to play everything. Not getting an xbox now is silly.
They need more studios to diversify in genres. They don't have enough and some of them are honestly not very good at multiplayer games today.
They don't need indies. Call of Duty is bigger than 50 indie games. Concrete genie got a 75.
38 billion is quite a lot. But Sony could buy EA and bring EA Sports as seperate unit back to stock market, San Diego Studio included. Because sports titles are best as multiplats (especially due to the extreme licence costs), and Sony does not need another publisher. Such an „EA without EA Sports“ could be much cheaper than 38 billions.
If we were to humor this, EA would be the perfect buy for Sony. It would have the FPS and western RPG games that Microsoft just tried to corner.
But, i don't think it will happen.
I also don't think Sony gains much from getting Capcom and squeenix. Microsoft still can't provide a platform in japan for japanese developers. The markets at play are the US and EU. EA would be the perfect counter.
Outside of that, there is a nuclear option, which is to buy/merge with Nintendo.
@Medic_Alert Like I said above, I think they just need Capcom. They fill the genres they need, and they already have other studios making multiplayer games (second party, Guerrilla and Naughty Dog games).
@Nem Idk. $50 billion (my estimate) for mass effect/dragon age with a weak studio and battlefield with another weak studio? The sports games won't be exclusive (looking at MLB).
Respawn would be the only one worth it there.
EA own BioWare. Star Wars series like Fallen Order and Battlefront.
Then there is all the money generated by the sports games.
Seriously, MS buy EA and it really is Game Over and Sony will slowly kill off the PS5. Some people on here think they can continue without CoD, FIFA AND Madden?
You're nuts if you think that!
I'd really love for Sony to buy Square Enix, please Sony.
@DrClayman Completely agree with everything you say here.
Square, Capcom and I would add Kadokawa to that list.
They need to secure all three of them in some way, and get away from the dependence on Cod and Fifa.
Remember once when people talked about the games they're looking forward to play and not which publisher will be bought by who.
The chatter on here is really focused on Sony vs Microsoft, when really the other company hoovering up the industry is Tencent. I think a Tencent buyout of EA is much more likely than a Sony one because of the multi platform nature of the sports franchises.
@Medic_Alert they need developers. Not IPs.
@Col_McCafferty fifa and madden cannot be exclusives. It will hurt on the FPS side with dice and respawn.
Well it's Microsoft doing that made this happen.
@Medic_Alert That's because their games are all cutesy stuff and cost peanuts compared to a God of War or Horizon Zero Dawn.
Nintendo don't need major third party games to exist, PlayStation does.
I was recently explaining to a friend that what is particularly dangerous about Microsoft is they have near-limitless capital they could use to buy all the content, one publisher at a time, and could give it away for pennies on the dollar via Game Pass because they actually don't even need to make money from Xbox. The quote you shared certainly echoes that sentiment. Where did it come from?
I would prefer it if Sony bought Capcom, just so Microsoft doesn't. Cause it certainly seems that Microsoft would rather buy the competition than try to win it. Seriously, they haven't allowed any new acquisition to release anything yet.
@Stoffinator I agree that it might be a little counterintuitive to go after Square Enix and FF, since they already sell pretty well on PlayStation. However, Microsoft is out there trying their hand at a monopoly, if push comes to shove, they might actually try targeting PlayStation's selling points as well, as much as they can.
But yeah, the best way for Sony to counterattack Microsoft's big purchases is to establish smaller studios and put out as many quality games as they can. (which seems to be what Sony is doing at the moment).
The console wars are truly just beginning or so it seems, who's got the popcorn?
@Col_McCafferty Yep. The thing I hate most about this acquisition is the sickening chatter it has inspired.
"Sony should buy Square-Enix!"
"Microsoft should go for an Eastern publisher next. Sega would be great."
"Will Microsoft buy EA with its infinite money?"
@Stoffinator Buying Epic Games would mean dealing with Tencent. Does Sony have the cash flow to face off against Tencent?
@Medic_Alert great, so in the future Sony AAA games will become AA and last a week at most.
That's not why I bought a PS4 and stayed with them this gen nor what they are notorious for.
Some on here think they can survive with just JRPGs, that's hilarious.
@Medic_Alert They can but that will take longer than buying studios. I wish the activision thing wouldn't happen, but I think sony needs to buy some publisher just to keep the lead. They won't be the market leader with your strategy. Not anymore.
After thinking through this and seeing the writing on the wall - as antithetical as it is to Sony's strategy, perhaps their strategy needs to change.
CoD's main competitor (I Think - isnt battlefield EA?), Overwatch's main competitor, star wars, Madden (I think), It seems like this is a no brainer for Sony to go after if they want to stay relevant.
I hope they don't make an offer for EA... but if they do and end up buying EA - I think Sony's influence on these games would bring them to an even higher degree of quality.
@Floki They lost warframe dev to tencent, so I'm guessing sony can't beat tencent.
Playstation losing Dragon Age and Mass Effect would be a real sad state of affairs. I own an Xbox Series S as my secondary console but would want to play those games in full 4K on my PS5. But I have a feeling Microsoft would love to take EA so they have Bioware.
@RevGaming I doubt platinum games would be interested in selling as they've just recently received massive funding from Tencent, and is looking into self publishing. If wanted to bought up. Tencent would have probably bought them by now
@TheCollector316 I took it from the above article. I hadn't heard it before reading it there to be honest.
Still trying to wrap my head around it.
I think COD, like Minecraft, will remain on PS. There are just too many downsides to pulling the most popular game completely off the platform. I do think however there will be major DLC and release window incentives on XB though.
I've said this in another post, but if MS want to take Activision and EA away into a pocket of the industry that I can easily avoid, them I'm all for it. If they could take Ubisoft with them while they're at it, that would be great too.
It is interesting to note that most of the studios MS are snuffling embrace the less pleasant side of monetisation in gaming, which suits and fits in with the gamepass model nicely. Something to think about.
If they start taking away more interesting and creative studios, then we have a problem. I'd probably just duck out of the whole thing if that were to happen to be honest. The more MS buys like this without adding anything to the industry, the less I want to give them any money.
It makes me really sad to think what could have been done with $70b going towards new studios and interesting projects that help progress the medium. Instead all that money has gone to the pockets of a few people who activity fostered an abusive workplace. Meh, meh I say.
Ea isn't worth buying, they have fifa sure but it will never be tied to one console ,they would get the licence taken away,ea catalogue is mostly based off a series of licensed properties without those its worth about a quid 😂
The only issue i see is that is Sony buys no one, xbox get told they are not allowed to because it then becomes a monopoly and google swan in and buy up capcom, UBI, Sqenix or someone then where does that leave everyone else? Streaming Resi, monster hunter, AC, street fighter, FF, DQuest, Tomb R etc from a Stadia?
Im not really geared up on it thst much so usually keep my gums closed but it does concern me with everyone saying lots of different stuff. I think i just need to log out for a month or 2 instad of reading stuff that lingers on the back of my mind and go enjoy my PS5.
@get2sammyb Knowing you are busy this is a pie in the sky ask. But what is the structure of EA? Like I was trying to think of the games under them and Battlefield came up. I know they are DICE but isn't DICE part of EA? Madden? Is EA sports still a thing? Doesn't EA do mobile?
I am basically asking for another article HAHA. Sorry.
@Medic_Alert For you maybe, to me they make kid games.
To make a game like God of War or The Last of Us Part II costs money. If these games are scaled back in their costs and ambition, then I'll have no choice but to go with Xbox.
If I wanted to play Nintendo-type games I'd buy a bloody Switch!
I dont see Ubisoft being bought out as Vivendi has been trying to buy them for several years, and the Guillemots have pushed back heavily against it.
@Medic_Alert Replying to the nintendo thing.
That's good nintendo can do that, but playstation won't survive without being cutting edge.
About the other topic.
Again, if you're willing to risk losing being the best sold console, they should follow your strategy.
They can wait a year, but they'll get over 2k devs from capcom for example and IPs that are more relevant than konami's.
@Medic_Alert I would agree if it was grand theft auto instead of cod. Last cod was a decline.
He is right tho. Most nintendo games are child friendly. I don't think calling him close minded is justified.
Consolidation could be as possible as a takeover. Would there be a merger between EA and another games corporation?
Apparently Tencent was interested in one of the big publishers too.
@get2sammyb "the $70 billion buyout of Activision Blizzard is more than the Xbox division has generated across its entire 20 year history."
The definition of Pay 2 Win.
(probably hard to fact check this, but let us know if you do)
I don't think EA would be a good buy for Sony. They do have some good IP that Sony could use but we have seen Sony make some amazing games themselves so they don't need those ip. They have their own talent to make better things. Titanfall, Medal of Honor, Battlefield, no matter how good they are, they won't beat CoD. And the developers aren't exactly the same as what they used to be either. While they do make some good games today, they made better ones in the older days imo.
I think Square Enix is the best fit for Sony. Final Fantasy and all sell well on PlayStation and it would be a shame to see someone else -cough-MS-cough- coming along and taking that away from PlayStation. Sony should focus on their closest partners to ensure they have a long and happy future together. Should they go with SE, I would just hope that they would allow SE to continue working on games for Nintendo too
I wouldn't mind seeing them get Sega too, I need Persona safe on PS! lol
I’d say most Nintendo games are ageless, not childish.
Childish games have dumbed down gameplay mechanics to make it easy for toddlers to start playing games.
Nintendo’s internally developed games often have more gameplay complexity than Sony’s games. Visually and scale wise they are much simpler yes. But gameplay wise, they’re usually more complex. Breath of the Wild is an extremely complicated game that makes you learn its mechanics. It never holds your hands. Same thing with Mario Odyssey.
"Childish games have dumbed down gameplay mechanics to make it easy for toddlers to start playing games."
So Pokémon with luck ranges and smash compared to MK. Mario Kart and Mario games aren't complicated either.
I disagree. Sony games have more complexity than most (not all) of Nintendo games. Yeah, don't want to say all because zelda exists.
Being 3rd party is pretty critical for EA. EA is built on franchise licensing and those rights holders don't want their franchises locked to a single platform. Do you think EA wants to make FIFA for Switch any more? If any platform holder purchased them, they'd lose the thing that makes them valuable. And any non-platform holder that purchases them doesn't really change their business model much. This is a non-issue even if it were to happen.
If Sony is going to buy anyone, they need to look at Capcom. Out of every company that could be theoretically available, Capcom offers the biggest variety of developers in terms of what genres they cover.
@NoxAeturnus tell that to activision and blizzard.
@TheRedComet I agree with your capcom comment.
Final Fantasy is in the bag already. Resident Evil and Monster Hunter are not. Sony will only need a FPS if they get Capcom.
This will also boost ps5 on Japan.
Another brand that doesn’t get a penny from me? I’m the weird one I know but so many other games , but the casual gamer really makes the difference in this business
Pokémon isn’t internal Nintendo. That’s the Pokémon company. Nintendo publishes.
Mario Kart, I’ll give you. It’s a party game.
3D Mario has complex controls and as the game gets moving, you have to learn all of Mario’s move set to collect everything available. Nintendo famously refrains from using context sensitive buttons. It’s pretty complex.
And 2D Mario has simple controls, but the games do tend to introduce complex level design although I’ll admit that more recent Mario 2D games aren’t as difficult as the older games.
Metroid is also pretty complex. And historically Metroid and Zelda are the visual powerhouses of Nintendo consoles. They are the two franchises Nintendo likes to pull out to push their hardware to their breaking points.
@Medic_Alert they are both then. What I can say, is that they are enjoyable to adults, but still, their demographics are underage people.
And frankly, Sony can build their FPS internally. Killzone needs a revival and unlike a lot of developers many of the guys who made the trilogy are still at Guerrilla.
Capcom brings a lot to Sony. Street Fighter is the biggest deal in fighting games. Plus with Sony’s financial backing, they could revive some other fighting franchises that could benefit from a modern makeover. Sony already has a strong partnership with Marvel. A new exclusive Marvel vs Capcom would be a big deal.
That would be awesome, all garbage companies go to garbage MS.
@RevGaming Activision/Blizzard doesn't do licensing like EA. That's most of EA's business. It's not the same.
Pokémon is nintendo and nintendo is pokémon. Those games have so many luck based mechanics so a kid can eventually beat it. You can even beat emerald with a Blaziken and a Rayquaza. I'm actually bored of how easy they are that I have to play fan games where they actually challenge me.
Mario Party is also a party game and easy to understand too. I played Mario Galaxy and it's pretty complex, but more than sony games? It's more complex than Ratchet. I'll give you that. The 2d sidescroller ones are super simple tho so I disagree.
Yeah, played Metroid Prime on the gamecube I can agree with that one.
Animal Crossing, Pokemon Snap, Luigis Mansion, Mario Gold, Tennis, Kirby are not complex either.
So... we got Zelda, Mario (3D ones) and Metroid Prime that are complex, but are they more than Bloodborne, Demon Souls, God of War, Ghost, Spider-Man? Idk. I can understand about the same. I think you're reaching honestly. It's not like they're starcraft. Then I would agree.
If sony want to buy, i think take two with rockstar games in it is the best bet
@NoxAeturnus Yeah. I know. I said that in comments above. Same thing with Take Two. Not worth it.
@TheRedComet Street Fighter is not as big as MK or Smash so I wouldn't say biggest deal, but I agree.
With capcom, the have RPGs, Racing, Story Driven, Action Games, Platformers, Fighting Games, Horror, Co-oP, Platformers when it's all set and done. They just need a FPS and they're already working on multiplayer games. They will be solid. Plus they have JRPGS with FF in the bag already.
@Macver1ck problem is then your getting a GTA game 1 a gen if your lucky. Look how old GTA V is. I know its made alot of money but its all Micro transactions and shark cards. I dont think sony would go that route.
@Medic_Alert Sorry, but after playing Pokemon X and Y, Sun and Moon, Sapphire and Ruby remakes and seeing that writing, I can't see it. Same thing with Ratchet. It's like Disney Pixar writing. Didn't like it that much.
Sony can’t buy EA they don’t have the money. Sony’s market value is 160 billion dollar. Microsoft just spend almost half of Sony’s market value to buy Activision. And that’s just pocket money for them. Microsoft has a market value of 2k+ billion dollar. Sony probably can’t even buy Square Enix or Capcom. The only thing that will stop Microsoft from buying the whole gaming industry are trade regulations.
@Kidfunkadelic83 One GTA is bigger than everything Activision will put out this whole gen. COD will only attract the same people over and over again, but won't attract 100m.
@BadPlayerOne They have 18 billion to spend and Capcom market cap is 4 Billion and Square is 5B.
@RevGaming as the Sony Group. Not all of that money is for their PlayStation division. Maybe with a big effort they can buy Square Enix (I very much doubt that) and what then? This won’t help them in any way against Microsoft.
Sony won't let Playstation spend billions to buy a publisher. We need to face the reality that the console wars are over, MS won.
They could buy Sqenix for sure. Their total market value is only about 6 billion. Capcom would be difficult, but not impossible for them to buy if Capcom wanted to sell.
EA is out of the question. Sony would basically either have to merge with EA, which brings a ton of risk for long term solvency, or essentially “mortgage” their entire corporation. Which is also stupid risky.
Plus you’re not getting much in the way of exclusives with EA. The majority of EA is dominated by sports titles, where licensing leagues, teams, and players dictates multiplatform releases.
Sure they’d pick up Respawn, Dice, and BioWare. But of those three only Respawn is healthy and actually worth the risk. Dice is a has been studio; it would take years to fix their problems. And BioWare is only in slightly better shape.
I think Capcom makes the most sense. Sony can afford them assuming Capcom doesn’t overcharge on their stock for a buy out.
@Amppari They have $18B to spend. Playstation is the thing that keeps the afloat.
Sure buddy. Sony is dead now. Sure.
PlayStation is Sony at this point. Their non gaming divisions aren’t anything to write home about financially speaking and outside of the photography division they aren’t competitive with any of the respective industry leaders.
They can’t afford to let PlayStation fold. It is their corporation.
@RevGaming Sony isn't dead, but PS won't be the market leader anymore.
But hey. Maybe it forces Sony to revive the late PS3, PS4 era where they were truly creative and doing everything possible to catch up to the Xbox 360.
@TheRedComet So they need to spent around 10 billions to buy Square Enix. The company is public and it is all about money. So just like Microsoft almost doubled the price per share to make the shareholders agree to sell Activision, Sony will have to do the same. I very much doubt it.
If EA is looking to be sold, out of the suitors that are mentioned besides MS, who would be better for the gaming industry? Tencent, amazon, google?
@TheRedComet That would be great.
@BadPlayerOne Call of Duty is big, but it's not the end game.
Square Enix and Capcom games actually pull more players than COD. Cod sells more, but variety beats it. You get 5m with this game, 5m with the other, cod will pull the same 20m.
@PhhhCough that would be like choosing from a pack of wolves who is allowed to rip you apart first.
@Medic_Alert Seeing how easy to understand some of their games are and the themes of their story, I just think they're not for mature audiences. Intentionally I mean.
It is what it is. Pokémon is aimed for kids, and I love Pokémon.
Look EA is certainly not my favorite publisher of course but the idea of literally any of these companies owning Mass Effect makes me shudder. At least EA every now and then does put out something great even if you got to get through a few stinkers to get to the great ones.
@Amppari Probably true, but it's not like they can't react and it's game over.
@TheRedComet Sony wouldn't only get Respawn, Dice, and BioWare... Remember that EA literally just purchased code masters last year cough cough former Driveclub and Motorstorm developers cough cough, there also popcap, Criterion Games, Motive Studios, Full circle (Skate), Maxis (Sims)... and like 5 other just support studios
@Floki Maaaaaan screw those weak azz studios and Respawn.
@RevGaming I agree, but the Activision purchase is setting the stage. Microsoft is going to try to buy EA, Take-Two and Ubisoft at one point. It’s inevitable. Or any of the other big players like Facebook, Amazon or Google will. Maybe even Apple. CoD is not the problem I bet that trade regulators are going to force Microsoft to keep CoD multi platform to allow the purchase. Only trade regulators will in the end stop Microsoft from buying the whole gaming industry. But it will be equally bad for Sony if any of the other big players purchase those 3 triple A companies. The endgame is the same PlayStation won’t be a able to match those takeovers and they don’t need to. They can still be a profitable gaming company with great IPs.
I think with all the budget that they had rather than buying, Sony could make much good/better game with their brand on it and with the scale of uncharted and quantic dream they could strengthen their exclusive game line up and eventually enough to keep ps as the winner of console war
So guess it is a really good idea that Sony is letting some of their games go to PC.. They are going to need that cash. I wonder how many God of War sold on PC?
@BadPlayerOne they can't buy all three. Laws won't let them.
What will google, amazon or facebook do? if each one gets a publisher... that's not enough. People won't spend on 5 services or consoles. I'm not worried if they buy them.
@Medic_Alert I'm intrigued by arceus too.
@RevGaming I have Netflix, Disney+, Amazon prime and Apple TV. So yes people will buy each service to play the games they want to play. It sucks and I personally hate these kind of practices.
@Floki and in turn they also own the rights to F1 and will own the right to WRC. Could be worth something.
@RevGaming Weak? Far from it games like Bejeweled and Plants vs Zombies are great Casual gaming, and could bring in a lot profit. Sim 4 brings something like $500 million annually, and requires very little up keep. Codemaster could easily give us a Driveclub 2 or another Motorstorm. Respawn is the only studio that can truly go toe to toe with CoD. Maybe they can finally give Playstation a good FPS so that we can finally stop acting like Killzone and Resistance was good. Criterion Games could give Playstation it Forza horizon rival.
EA has a ton of IP other than your NFS, FIFA, and Battlefield that I would like to see return.
Wing Commander, Ultima, a remaster of Dante's Inferno, a new Burnout, a good Dungeon Keeper, Sim City, a new Alice or remaster of first two Alice games... etc. Damn. Remember when EA used to make videos games.
EDIT: BRING BACK BattleForge T^T
"the $70 billion buyout of Activision Blizzard is more than the Xbox division has generated across its entire 20 year history.
I think things like that, assuming it's true, are sobering."
To me, is sobering in its potential to be a really bad business decision. Imagine that pitch in this or any other industry:
"Hey boss, we've been trying to make money with this idea for 20 years and have struggled. We have a plan but it requires more money than we've ever made over 20 years. Sound good?"
@KippDynamite Daddy Microsoft was probably like "Sure. How much?"
Xbox: "$70 billion"
Microsoft: "Really? That pretty cheap. Go check in between the couch cushion. I think I dropped $100 billion in between there last week"
@KippDynamite Clearly the upper-management is being sold on something that extends beyond even consoles and subscriptions at this point.
God, imagine a Mass Effect game made by Naughty Dog or Dragon Age by Sucker Punch.
It really does feel like within a few years we won't have a choice and we'll all end up buying into the Xbox ecosystem.
If it's an organic choice then fine, if it's the ONLY choice then that really does suck.
Wouldn't surprise me if this happened. Ea is a good buy pretty much guarantees The Casual market with FIFA. But I hope not that is one more step towards all-digital games you never owned. Not good for brick and mortar stores as well. I feel Microsoft have forced Sony hand to buy because if they get another big studio that's a problem. Capcom and bungee would be my go-to purchases both performing well and a reasonable price for Sony money both Studios have extremely talented developers. But imagine if Microsoft got hold of one of these Capcom is chump change
for Microsoft. But that would be the death of sony
@Floki Wasn't talking about profits when I said weak
Sony tends to buy developers rather than publishers and knows the value of new franchises as well as established. They will happily dump something good (Motorstorm) for something new.
Any EA takeover would be subject to a huge antitrust case as they have an effective monopoly on many sports genres.
@RevGaming yeh konami is formally the worst (isnt that sad to say) but theyd get the ips and the fox engine. I think they are on the mobile market too. Imagine Sony having the Metal Gear, Castlevania, Contra
@PhhhCough any that aren't Sony's competitor, and also those companies would still release games on playstation
@UltimateOtaku91 would google or amazon, though? Why wouldnt they make those games, new and old, exclusive to luna and stadia?
I could see MS just buying Sony at this point and that be the end of it.
@PhhhCough they haven't got the player base to keep those games exclusive to them, they would be losing out of a lot of money
These takeovers need to end
@RevGaming But you will get the revenue of the game on all platforms.
@get2sammyb What blows my mind when people say Sony can’t afford this or that, is do they really think Sony can’t get loans? It’s not all about cash on hand.
@Floki But Killzone was great i loved Killzone 3 its one of my favorite shooters around. Well the Tom Clancy shooters have a really solid fanbase so i dont think that will hurt.
@OmegaStriver But is it smart to do a takeover and go in debt for it? What if something goes really wrong you would be easy picking with no money to spend.
@Ken_Kaniff What MANY people fail to realize is that these companies have to want to sell to be bought and Sony could easily get a massive loan for a massive purchase if they wanted too.
@Flaming_Kaiser The vast majority of of companies operate while acquiring debt. Hell, just Google some companies debt. Google Netflix, Walmart.
Just like with the MLB, the NFL and FIFA aren’t going to want their properties exclusive to a couple platforms.
@OmegaStriver Google has cash reserves of 135 billion dollar. They have debts, but calculated debts. Even Apple has debts while having around 360 billion dollar of cash reserves. So no it is not a good idea to have higher debt then your cash reserves. Sony has cash reserves of around 25 billion dollars. They would need twice the sum to purchase EA. Sony is not stupid.
I was freaked out the first two days, I'm not worried anymore. Whatever happens we'll deal with it.
Sony will not buy Capcom because Capcom said last year that they want the PC to be their main platform for their future video games. Another reason why Sony won't buy Capcom is because Capcom has a good collaboration with Nintendo especially when it comes to Monster Hunter
@TheRedComet I'd like them to own capcom & sega a tonne of great IP's between them , resident evil , jet set radio , crazy taxi , house of the dead , outrun , monster Hunter , dead rising , sonic the hedgehog etc
I'd rather no one buys out EA, but Sony over Microsoft anyday for me.
An international investor potentially could swallow up EA. Softbank, Embracer Group — those guys. Or even Disney. If Microsoft tries to it will be the cause for government intervention. If Tencent tries, it still may be blocked due to the optics of Chinese buying american assets.
Everyone else simply don't have money or desire.
I'm just scared Microsoft will buy Sega or square enix if that happens game over man game over
@BionicDodo this would be hilarious
Oh look another company i dont give a damn about its games
@Stoffinator Sony already lost 20billion dollars of stock value due to recent MS move
@get2sammyb They lost 20billion dollars of value already.
lol who wants EA? that's like asking someone to put dog dookie out in front of your next step.
The only game series I care about that EA holds is Mass Effect. I'd honestly be pissed if Microsoft bought EA and I lost that series... especially with a new one on the way. There are previous series from EA I've enjoyed such as SSX, Burnout, NFS... but they're all essentially dead.
Nintendo betted on themselves, they are not known for other peoples games. So yes this does effect them but not as much. If XBOX buys say a Ubisoft.. then Nintendo needs to be concerned.
Nothing to worry about, play PlayStation and Xbox😀Happy days..
As long as it doesn't affect my Gpass, who cares. That means price of subscription too. As being an Xbox user. Fell out with PS when sony site kept getting hacked.
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