Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart is out in less than a month, and we seriously can't wait. The PlayStation 5 exclusive looks awesome, with the series' typical charm and vibrance on full display, amplified by the new console's extra grunt. You can read up our thoughts on the action platformer in our hands-off preview, but yeah, we're excited.
Anyway, Sony's next big exclusive game looks to share something in common with its stablemates. According to game director Mike Daly, Rift Apart will have a pretty straightforward Trophy list, and an easily attainable Platinum.
"I can say our Trophy design for this game is again, pretty permissive," he tells IGN India, adding that it's possible to get all the game's Trophies "on one playthrough". Daly does stipulate that, if players want to do that, they'll still need to "be pretty thorough in how you approach the game", meaning you'll have to spend some time fully exploring the PS5 title if you want a complete Trophy cabinet. "If you are the type of player who just really embraces the game and loves it, we are going to make it possible to get the Platinum without wasting your time," says Daly.
However, he says that there will be further challenges for players looking to crank up the difficulty. Daly describes what sounds like a New Game Plus mode: "We've got a challenge mode that lets you start from the beginning of the story again, but with your complete leveled up hero and arsenal, and a handful of gadgets." He also points out the game will have "a wide variety of difficulty settings", so even if the Platinum Trophy is pretty easy, Rift Apart will have other ways to put you through your paces.
The idea of a straightforward Trophy list is something Sony has been acting on for a few years now, and if you ask us, the platform holder's first-party titles tend to have the best sets of trinkets. We're pleased this will continue with R&C — that Plat will look very nice on our digital shelf.
[source in.ign.com, via glitched.online]
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Ratchet 2016 was my first platinum. This should be my... (checks notes)... 25th?
I still have nightmares of doing the races in Ratchet 2016 to get a time below whatever that benchmark was. But of course cant wait to do it all over again if it's in Rift Apart.
A PS5 platinum trophy. Seems to be worth as much as a bronze PS3 trophy.
Why not just give you the platinum trophy upon purchasing the game, then people don't have to play it even once?!
Getting bored of the Sony easy platinums. I like tasks to do once the first playthrough is finished that extend the length of the game, and maybe the difficulty (yes, I know I could just make these up myself, but I also like a sense of progression within a game, plus my imagination is not great).
Still, it’s better than some games that require a huge repetitive grind (looking at you Diablo3) with no invention or interesting tasks in the trophy challenges.
So, as long as it’s not just given for completing the game and does require experimentation with weapon types, killing bosses in certain ways, etc, it could still be fun if not challenging.
Nothing wrong with a challenging, involved Platinum.
Now if we could stop DLC Trophies from being added, that'd be nice.
@Golem25
That’s the reason I don’t go for full 100% in lots of cases - I’ve long since gotten rid of the game by the time DLC trophies are added! Just collecting plats is enough for me though.
goood.. how it should be
Haha I can tell your not a Ratchet veteran Stephen.
"Daly describes what sounds like a New Game Plus mode "We've got a challenge mode that lets you start from the beginning of the story again.."
Ratchet invented this, back in 2002, and challenge mode has been in every game since. A classic staple, It sounds like it will be the same as we've always had.
I kept trying to replay R&C on PS4, but the Clank sections really suck and I get fed up. I’m guessing there will be more of the same this time round? They are ok to play through once.
I'm split on this usually.
I appreciate a challenging achievement when it is interesting to do so.
But I don't appreciate grindy achievements that are just about spending an undue amount of time doing dull or repetitive tasks.
In the past Ratchet and Clank had trophies for "Get every gun to max level" which just weren't fun beyond a certain point and could never be completed in the normal flow of a game. It meant several extra playthroughs beyond the point of enjoyment.
In this case it is undoubtedly an improvement.
Having to do multiple playthroughs to get a platinum is horrible in my opinion (RE8 requires at least 3...😑).
Having to grind for levels or collectibles is perfectly fine for me but the multiple playthroughs usually ruin it for me.
@AK4tywill I became a fan with the PS3 games, but I'm usually a one-and-done player. Cool that NG+ has been part of Ratchet for so long!
Platinums are supposed to bring extra challenge/value to a game. You can even plat this one in slowmo! The last Ratchet wasn't even hard on hard challenge mode, so i'm not expecting much more in terms of difficulty from this.
@Quintumply Ahh I hear you. Definitely recommend trying Challenge mode on some of the games if you enjoy the gameplay. You unlock crazy new weapons/upgrades and it's such a power trip. Should be a fun time on Rift Apart.
I read "You can achieve it on one playthrough" as achieve it in one sitting and I was like "Oh no, it's a 5-6 hour game!?!?". But yeah, 1 playthru is how it should be really for a story driven game like this. Hoping the game is 12-16 hours though, multiple sitting for me as I usually only play 2-3 hours at a time these days.
A platinum should be earned not given you shouldnt get a platinum for playing a game trough once.
Nice. If people want a more difficult platinum from Sony then go ahead and play Returnal. It’ll take you 30-40 hours to get.
I remember 2016 was a little grindy with it's platinum due to the shorter game length and having to accumulate so many bolts and raritanium to fully upgrade all of the weapons.
Hopefully with Rift Apart being longer than 2016 will help with fully upgrading everything.
@trev666 this gen is definitely not for the players.
@pip_muzz Oh I get it, you want people to know how good you are at games
@trev666 What are your thoughts on difficulty levels? Should A platinum be able to be obtained by playing the game on normal or do you think it’s required that you play on the highest difficulty setting?
@Hopewell Nope. I have actually turned off trophy notifications for my PS as well. I just find it amusing that getting a platinum trophy is a "big deal" for some people, when it doesn't even require one to fully complete the game. Just reinforces my original belief that people should play games however they want and ignore trophies altogether.
It's the idea that this secondary system has some idea of "gaming worth" when it's plain to see it's an utterly inconsistent system that makes me chuckle.
@trev666 Who cares? Don't you play the game for the graphics, game play and story? I just don't get people caring about arbitrary trophies. Especially those people that call themselves trophy hunters. Playing a game simply because you can automatically get 3 platinum by importing your save cross Gen isn't impressive and I couldn't care less how many platinum trophies some one has. It breaks immersion. Like I'm going to jump off this cliff and die because there is a trophy for it.
@pip_muzz Exactly. It is ridiculous to take pride in your ps trophies
Can't wait to earn it
Forget trophies. I want Skill Points back. R&C 2016 didn't have them.
Make no mistake, this is a business choice.
Same reason they don't care about legacy content. Sony don't want you sticking around trying to finish up an old game when they have the next £70 game to sell you.
Don't get me wrong I like an easy to achieve plat. But this seems like a complete joke considering they are charging 70 quid for the game. Sounds to me like it's going to be a short run.
@Richnj possibly, but if its finished and platinum'd quickly then it may be sold, thus making plenty of second hand games available and losing out on sales...just a thought...
@EnragedGibbon Maybe, but aren't 75% of ps game sales now digital? They aren't being resold.
@Richnj yeah, fair point, can't see sony changing it's refund/sell on policy either! 😂
@pip_muzz I don’t play for trophies. I don’t bother to check them at all. Couldn’t tell you what my game score is over on Xbox. But I did platinum Astro’s Playroom because I enjoyed that game so much I wanted to throw some “respect” at it and finish everything. I also felt the trophy requirements didn’t waste my time. Whereas I’ll never platinum ratchet and clank or Spider-Man because it requires more than one play through. So I got to say I respect games that respect my time. There seems to be some gate keeping though from people that want platinums to remain very very difficult and I wonder what’s lost if platinums become easier to achieve?
@mvhess
I feel the same. Some trophies are just ridiculous.
I do get that some people are invested in them but this seems like another fake outrage to me. Some games are easy and some aren't. It's nothing new. It's always been.
@Richnj I disagree. They want you to stay engaged with the game so won't sell it on the secondary market. Or they want to make a game so great you won't want to sell it. Considering their next 70$ game is presumably Horizon Forbidden West which is likely 6 months away, I highly doubt that is the case
@mvhess It's not.
The next £70-£80 game is Rift Apart, and it comes out next month.
Horizon: Forbidden West will likely be out around Sept time. Three months later.
And then God of War Ragnarok (which has been confirmed as a 2021 title), likely coming three months after that, as the big November title.
And again, the large majority of PS full games are sold digitally. Making resale impossible.
@Richnj I was speaking of after ratchet. And no way is GoW coming this year. Jason Schreier already said it's been delayed internally and will be announced publicly when they have something to show. I think HFW will be out holiday 2021 based on every single game getting delayed
@Richnj and like I said. Who cares about trophies? If you need a trophy to pop just to be encouraged to play a game again, then don't play it again.
@mvhess "I was speaking of after ratchet"
You don't didn't say that, and even if God of War is delayed, the existence of Rift Apart places a smaller window between the two games than 6 months. You're talking 5 at most.
And it doesn't change the fact that Sony intended to release at least three major games in the second half of 2021. That's what they announced. That was the plan, even if a delay happens.
"and like I said. Who cares about trophies?"
https://www.psychologyofgames.com/2016/07/why-do-achievements-trophies-and-badges-work/
People care. That's why they exist in the first place. That's why communities of trophy hunters exist. Why walk through and guides exist on how to complete them. Why entire websites are dedicated to cataloguing them and ranking them. Why there's actually games that give out super easy trophies.
And, as I said, why Sony have refined them. Making them achievable creates a positive feedback loop for the player. Same reason why Sony changed how the trophy levelling system worked, to make it easier to increase your level.
Same reason why, even though lootboxes, booster packs, and unlock packs are people paying to not play their game, they continue to be included. Because they work.
@Jayslow
No idea how i had that patience for that one.
@Richnj yeah I'll never get you if you take pride in the amount of trophies you have
@Richnj and I didn't need a psychology lesson on trophies. Congratulations, you got a trophy for smashing pots in a video game. Seems for weak minded people. Insomniac is going to put out an amazing game and your complaining about trophies.
@mvhess "Congratulations, you got a trophy for smashing pots in a video game. Seems for weak minded people."
Congratulations, you just beat up a fictional bad guy in a video game. Seems for weak minded people.
"Insomniac is going to put out an amazing game and your complaining about trophies."
I haven't complained once. I like Insomniac games.They and sucker punch are by far my favourite devs, and I'm forever telling people that Resistance is my favourite PS franchise, and me and my son have had a blast going through Spider-man, and I'm actually looking forward to playing through it again on my own.
All I've done is state that Sony are specifically making trophies easy, as per the article we are commenting on and for some reason, you took offense to the whole idea of trophies. Why did you even come to an article about trophies?
Awesome, though I probably would have done a New Game+ anyways just to upgrade all my weapons.
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