PlayStation Studios now has an official creator page on PC storefront Steam, and it’s teasing more PC ports beyond Days Gone, which is due out on 18th May. Several titles are listed on the page, including Deacon St John’s aforementioned debut, Horizon Zero Dawn, and Predator: Hunting Grounds. However, if you click the About tab, you’ll notice that 41 releases have been assigned to the page – many of which are currently private.
It’s worth noting that Helldivers and its DLC already account for around 16 of these items, so by our counting the publisher currently has about 26 public products. That means it has plans for about 15 other Steam releases – although, as alluded to previously in this paragraph, that could mean just one game and a bunch of add-on packs. It doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s porting 15 full PlayStation exclusives.
Of course, none of this is news really, as Sony has indicated its intent to port more of its portfolio to PC platforms. Earlier in the year, leaked documents revealed that Epic Games was willing to pay PlayStation up to $200 million in order to get dibs on “four to six” first-party titles on its storefront. It’s unlikely the platform holder took that deal, but it’s clear that the company still has big plans for PC moving forwards.
[source store.steampowered.com, via resetera.com]
Comments (62)
Interesting times. There's potentially a lot of money on the table for Sony there. If they play it right it will be a nice injection of cash. And more cash = more games.
I can't really think of that many first party PlayStation games that have so many DLCs. My gut feelings tell me that the upcoming releases will be the non-core PS4 exclusives like those from Japan Studio.
My guess is that they'll include God of War, Bloodborne, Demon's Souls, and a few upcoming multiplayer games.
Okay 5 comments in and nobody is crying and bemoaning this yet.
I wonder how far we can go before someone decides to throw a fit because someone else getting to enjoy a game means they can't.
I think sony will port all their ps4 1st party games to pc, as long as ps5 is selling good it will be okay I think, like xbox 360 back in the days. But if nintendo or xbox become the default console again, then people won't have any reason to buy ps5 if they can get all sony exclusive on steam. One of reason I got ps3 although I already have xbox 360 and good pc back then is because ps3 is the only place to play metal gear solid 4.
I hate this so much lol
I understand the need but I still don't like it
I wonder how much store exclusivity really matters on PC - it's never stopped me from making a purchase. I mean, would Sony actually lose sales by having games on EGS but not Steam? Do PC gamers care that much about keeping their game library confined to one app? I have PC games from Steam, GOG, EGS, itch.io, and Windows store/Xbox app, and it doesn't bother me at all. If I wanted to play the game and it was only on EGS, what do I care, as I still have access to it. Am I missing something?
@SweetSummerShunv The Gravity Rush games could do pretty well on PC I think.
I predict it'll be something like:
Meh, glad people get to enjoy some good games they might have missed out on. Doesnt affect my experience with them in any way.
@Grumblevolcano it will be the older exclusives. They wont release day for day with PC as the hope is it will entice PC users to grab a console to play the sequels.
Tasty times I legit cannot wait
I think 4-6 is about what we should expect, given what Epic indicated.
I imagine MLB 2021: The Show is a shoe-in.
7 comments before someone complains about hating it... (eyeroll)
@Weebleman I think the pandemic will have changed Sony's strategy much like how Miles Morales, Sackboy and Horizon Forbidden West went from PS5 exclusives to crossgen releases. Sony expects PS5 shortages throughout 2021 and 2022 as well as making the decision to mostly discontinue the PS4 last year so there wouldn't be many picking up a console as a result of PC ports introducing them to Sony's 1st party lineup.
@Grumblevolcano those games were coming to PS4 long before the pandemic happened. Just nonsense statements by Jim Ryan making folks think they wasnt. If anything, the pandemic led to more sales as people stayed in and gamed more and more. Covid affected many things but Sonys profits from gaming were not one of them.
They will all eventually end up there but not a chance they will be day one.
This can only be a good thing. Port over the older PS4 exclusives while those with a PS5 enjoy games like Returnal and Ratchet & Clank.
Depending on what games they are, this could lead to a "snake eating itself" situation:
This will encourage many people to switch to PC and cut PlayStation out of the cycle entirely. Game sales on PlayStation will drop and Sony will have no choice but to continue releasing on PC with quick turnaround to recoup lost PlayStation sales or eat heavy costs. The cycle will continue indefinitely and the need for PlayStation hardware will go away for many people, especially the enthusiast crowd who care about graphics and performance.
All of sudden PlayStation consoles seem like bad value when PC will get all Xbox exclusives in addition to PlayStation games, with no online paywalls and the ease of piracy (which let's be real, is prominent but people love to pretend it's insignificant). PlayStation will only be one step ahead of total redundancy that is Xbox.
This also undermines PS5's backwards compatibility and boost mode which are no longer attractive selling points for those that skipped PS4.
@torne You were the first one here that started crying about people crying, seems like a self fulfilling prophecy to me 😒
@torne
Once again, here's a list of completely valid reasons why someone would hate it that have nothing to do with not wanting to share games:
cont.
@art_of_the_kill 🙄🙄🙄
What a whiny and entitled take on this...
Oh no!! Playstation users don't get anything out of Sony porting 5 year old games to PC!!!
Its not like Sony doesn't get extra money from games that are no longer selling on console and can use said money to bolster its upcoming games.
"But the playstation versions are now inferior" okay so wait 4-5 years and buy them on PC of you are so concerned about having the "best version".
In the end all Sony are doing is porting older games to generate more interest in the exclusives. Anyone with a basic understanding of marketing should be able to understand this.
You open up more people to a franchise by letting more people play it. Once they are in, if they want the sequel they have to buy the ps5 or wait another 4-5 years to get it on PC. This literally takes nothing away from you, yet let's others be exposed to the ecosystem, and bolsters sony's output.
@art_of_the_kill @truerbluer
Here is the great thing about all of this.
Its out of your power
So no point worrying about anything lool.
@Spyroescape 100% this.
Those vocal few that have an issue with it can vote with their wallets.
Exclusives becoming non-exclusives is invariably good for gamers - more people having better access to more games.
I don't think it needs to be spelled out what kind of person you have to be for this news to irk you.
@art_of_the_kill it wouldn't bother me at all, I don't own a PC and I'm never going if it gets the games in more hands and gets us sequels to game I'm like its not a problem for me.
@torne The point is to push back on the narrow-minded viewpoint that the ONLY reason anyone would not be okay with this is because they're fanboys who don't want to share their games. Because it needs to be pushed back against, and people who aren't okay with it need to stop being treated as if they're irrational fanboys who don't have valid arguments or concerns.
It's not entitled for PS users to expect some benefit or preferential treatment out of this deal like Xbox users get, or at the very least to not be straight up misled with "PlayStation Exclusive" labeling that Sony likely knows full well is not going to be true in the future. Oh, and yes, and I suppose it is a good thing that it's only going to be games that are 4-5 years old, like the two-year-old Days Gone that's getting released on PC in three days!
Man, I truly do wonder why it is I keep seeing comments that games becoming less exclusive is only a good thing overall and also simultaneously seeing hollow reassurances that Sony is only going to be porting their old games to PC. So, I want to know, which is it? If exclusives aren't good, why isn't the prevailing narrative that Sony needs to just put all its games on PC day-and-date? Why do some people find reassurance or try to reassure others that it's not a big deal in the slightest that Sony ports their older games over, as opposed to just making it so that the PS4/PS5 has no exclusives to begin with?
These ideas are not consistent with each other, and yet, I tend to see them both argued simultaneously anytime this subject comes up. Then again, I guess it's also not consistent that Sony keeps moneyhatting third-party timed exclusives, suggesting that they understand the value of exclusivity, while simultaneously porting their first-party games over, suggesting that exclusivity and brand identity has no value after all.
@art_of_the_kill The Only People That Are Saying Less Exclusives Being a Good Thing Are PC Dudes.
@Areus of course they would say that
@Areus by that logic multiple people that frequent this site myself included are pc only...
Except that's objectively false. I have been a playstation user since the original. I don't game on PC, The only PC in my household is my work laptop.
I have been saying since the beginning that those that are freaking out over ports of games that are no longer selling like crazy is not a bad thing. Bringing more games to more people is a good thing.
@art_of_the_kill "playstation users deserve preferential treatment"
Get out of here with that self entitled attitude
@ViolentEntity Exactly, imagine a game like Bloodborne gets ported to PC with a fully unlocked frame rate, 4K resolution support and all frame-pacing issues fixed. How do you think that will make PS5 owners feel? No patch (if even possible) will make the game look and run as good as the PC version and the only other option would be to release a remaster or in the (most likely) worst case scenario, nothing happens so they're stuck with the exact same 2015 PS4 game at 1080p, 30fps and frame-pacing issues. So PC players get the optimal game while PlayStation owners are stuck with a substandard version. Of course PS fans are going to be angry about it because their long-term platform support gets them nothing while a group that never supported PS gets the best version. Informed people will quickly abandon PlayStation if this continues, and so far it seems to be the case with HZD, Death Stranding and Quantic Dream games not getting any enhancement patches to bring them close to PC settings.
@truerbluer one of the many reasons why i am against games going to pc. Guerilla seem to have forgotten the audience that made their game a success to begin with and actually bough their game. And they dont seem to bothered with giving them an enhanced version even though they know making a ps5 version is completly possible and would be much easier than making a pc port
@SweetSummerShunv There was stuff like The Last of Us where it's online mp had tons of small purchases like hats, weapons and abilities so it could be that.
@Umar For me I'm okay with certain niche and underperforming games going to PC but I want PlayStation to have the best version of their own games or at the very least comparable to PC. It's ridiculous that their very own capable platform (PS5) won't enhance many of their own PS4 games to reach PC levels.
I think Sony will keep experimenting with progressively newer releases (assuming they keep selling well) to see how far they can push the PC ports before there's a backlash from their base. Assuming they don't experience one, then I could see a situation where all of their games are temporarily exclusive to console for six months to a year before releasing on PC. Not quite full Microsoft, but close. And I'm sure PC gamers will buy the hell out of most of these ports, since most of the PC gamers I know would love nothing else than to be able to skip out on buying home consoles entirely.
I'm glad I'm waiting a bit before jumping into next-gen. No point in buying a PS5 if the PC gets everything I want.
@Ralizah if that does happen they better not expect it to help them sell more Ps5s. It didnt help xbox consoles and certainly wont help Ps5 consoles or anything that comes after it
@truerbluer I dont mind certain games like Dreams going there . But games like Hzd is a pointless move to begin with seeing as it already way more than its budget back on ps4 alone and helped to fund the sequel. The pc didnt help fund anything nor did it benefit the users who actually supported this game to begin with seeing there is still no ps5 version to begin with
I can only see this as a good thing. More people can play PS Studio games and Sony can use the profits from it to fund their next projects. it's a win-win situation.
This makes me wonder if the day will ever come where Nintendo puts out their games on PC as well. That would be extremely ideal for me as while I enjoy Nintendo games, I've never liked any of the hardware to play said games. If I never had to use my Switch again I would be very pleased.
I know it's unlikely but hey a man can dream!
@Korgon I think emulation will eventually force them too. Like we can play switch games before they're even released on Yuzu emulator.
It seems the ps games being ported over, are older games. Regardless, new or old games, more ways to play, is a good thing.
@Weebleman PS4 only games yes but of course the stock issues are limiting PS5 sales and it seems that plenty of people are holding off buying crossgen games until they can get PS5.
@Grumblevolcano completely disagree as most cross gen games get a free upgrade and new releases are charting pretty well which shows folks are buying them. Even Returnal, a PS5 exclusive, debuted highly in the weekly chart despite limited availability of consoles.
Sonys gaming division recently reported their highest period earnings. That occurred over the pandemic period.
Older exclusives hitting PC are just that, old titles console owners already bought. New titles will make their money from console owners and likely shift more consoles. There is zero need to launch on another platform and possibly impact a console sale. Once the money is made, itll move to PC and the process repeats.
@ViolentEntity idk... Maybe for the ease of use and the simplicity that only a console can offer, or for the feature like the Dualsense or HDR which is mostly broken on windows/PC.
@nessisonett
Yeah, and then two years later both of Returnal and R&C get ported as well. Might as well not even buy a PS5 if you have a PC.
@GameCollector84 Don’t buy one then. It’s your money.
@art_of_the_kill
"And let's face it, if brand identity just meant nothing at all, then what would be the downside to Sony also releasing their games on Xbox and Switch?"
^This! In reality games getting ported to PC has nothing to do with "more people being able to play games". If a company really wanted to make their games more accessible they'd release them on PC/PS5/Series all day and date.
Sony and Microsoft want to use their "Console Exclusives" to lure console gamers over to their platforms, while also being able to sell to PC users. If either company was truly interested in making their games more accessible they'd release their games on both PS5 and Series on the same day.
In reality it's about getting that little bit of extra revenue from PC users, while at the same time disallowing half the console gamers from being able to play on their platform of choice.
As much chance I’ll wait years for Top Sony games to make it to PC - as I will wait years for AAA 3rd party games to make it to the Nintendo Switch.
Next to zero.
Let me sit around and see if (maybe) Ratchet and Clank will be out on Steam in 2024? Not happening. And that is from someone that already has a gaming PC.
@nessisonett
Haha, well of course I'm not buying one. IMO PC is the best choice this gen. Last gen it was definitely PS4. 7th gen was more of an even split. 6th gen it was PS2. 5th gen was once again more of an even split.
They need to keep some exclusives, like God of War, forever honestly. Putting too many on PC will be a bad business practice later on as it devalues getting a console to those who already play on PC a lot. I think short term, this earns money. Long term, it will diminish it a bit.
@Jaz007 agreed. But they already have started devaluing it
@Orpheus79V Yes I actually look forward to a PC port of Gravity Rush 2 the most. I've played the game on the PS4 Pro and some technical issues were quite glaring.
@Gaia093 It's good for PC gamers but not PS gamers, that's the frigging point
HZD still hasn't been upgraded for PS5 but they released it on PC and have spent a lot of time and effort patching it, time that could've nay SHOULD'VE been spent on the PS5 version.
Here we have a blatant example of where PC gamers are favoured over those that play on PS. That doesn't seem right to me.
@Ralizah Yeah, I think you’re probably right. It wouldn’t surprise me, and who’s to say what actually qualifies as a “backlash from their base” to them? I mean, they clearly did a “testing the water” experiment with Horizon Zero Dawn, and while there was clear and obvious dissent, they’re apparently gauging by the fact that PlayStation headquarters wasn’t burned to the ground by ravenous fanboys that it is now a-okay to put damn near every single PS4 exclusive on PC. Or so I can tell, anyway. Suffice to say that it’s probably going to take a hell of a ton of backlash for Sony to turn away from this path they’re on.
Ultimately, though, I think the people who are okay with this under the caveat that “it’s only older games” or “they’re not putting EVERY exclusive on PC” are going to be in for a very rude awakening one of these days. The more Sony is encouraged to keep doing this, the more likely it becomes that they’re eventually releasing every single exclusive on PC day-and-date, or at least close to it. They might indeed give PS owners six months or so of early access before they release the superior PC version.
In any case, if you don’t see any point in owning a PS5 now, how could I even begin to blame you? Sony is clearly throwing their primary advantage away, and sooner or later, us PS owners are likely going to end up feeling like chumps for ever supporting Sony consoles in the first place.
@Col_McCafferty
The issue with your points is the PS5 back-compat and money.
1. If HZD 60FPS isn't as simple as changing code, that means it needs a native PS5 SKU, which takes a TON of time and extra money to make. Sony would then probably need to charge full price for a 'remaster'.
2. PC is only getting older games at the moment that have dried up in terms of sales on PS4, so it's a simple way to gain more revenue from an older product.
We’ve already seen games go to PC and no one’s ever said “Ooh, PS games come to PC 4-5 years after being released on PlayStation!” I think I’ll wait. That’s utter nonsense! Games going to PC only hurts Sony and PS in the minds of the people who think this.
Also, for the thought of this leading to PS players getting the “inferior” version of the games. This has been true for more games that exclusives. Almost every game that’s multi-platform is inferior on console yet people still buy consoles. You all are getting yourselves riled up for no reason.
@everynowandben
Yes, PC gamers care. I would like my games accessible from one place, the app I choose. Having games all over the place and effectively installing so many clients to all accomplish the same thing (launch games) is highly annoying to me. Steam is far and away the most robust client of this type and the one I prefer to use.
EA tried locking their games behind Origin to bring gamers over like me and it resulted in me not playing their games on PC. The same is happening with Epic, except that it is timed exclusivity, so games I am really interested in, Borderlands 3 being the only example so far, I will still buy on Steam eventually. For that particular example, I waited until the $100 Super Deluxe version was on Steam for $20. I would have paid $80 for it shortly after launch, but Gearbox made the choice they didn't value me as a Steam user and longtime Borderlands fan, and thus I gave them less money.
Voting with our wallets is all we can do.
@Grumblevolcano That would be insane and stupid if you do that that will be the end of your platform.
If you port older games its just extra cash and smart.
@Trajan For me its a console with no extra work why do think i have a console.
More than anything I hope there is DREAMS! Which would benefit everyone.
Aside from that I expect
I HOPE for
Not sure about the others.
I didn't get a ps4 for its exclusives, I'm not getting a ps5 for its exclusives. I don't think exclusives are a good enough reason to get a console. Sony might as well release their games on PC for those of us that just don't care about getting a console
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