Cyberpunk 2077’s big v1.2 patch was billed as the big one by CD Projekt RED, and as we noted in our PlayStation 5 hands on, it’s unquestionably improved the experience. But what about PS4 Pro consoles? Well, a full analysis has been uploaded by Digital Foundry, and the bottom line is that it’s much, much better – but there are caveats.
The publication reports that, while the framerate certainly isn’t perfect on Sony’s supercharged last-gen console, it now sticks much closer to its targeted 30 frames-per-second – even in areas of stress, like marketplaces. The catch is that the Polish developer has turned asset streaming right down to achieve it, meaning many objects and materials simply don’t appear if you’re moving quickly.
The trade-off means that scenery details like chairs or advertising hoardings are hidden, unless you stop and wait for them to load in. Depending on how fast you’re moving, the game may not stream them in at all. Obviously the release suffers from pop-in on all consoles anyway, so it’s perhaps not the end of the world – and it has vastly improved the performance on PS4 Pro.
Unfortunately, things remain more or less the same on a standard PS4, where the framerate is all over the place. Digital Foundry reports that there are minor improvements in key areas, like the chase sequence at the start of the game, which gains a few extra frames – but overall, it’s not good enough. Our takeaway from all this? We can’t imagine a return to the PS Store is happening any time soon.
I play on a base PS4, and I think the patch has made it run much smoother overall. And the adds are more visible, as well as a higher level of detail on most surfaces. Played over 20 hours before getting my first crash, and that was me asking for it, really, by doing stupid things on metal staircases. There's really no reason this shouldn't be on the PlayStation store, except that Sony must feel like their honor has been impinged by having to (horror of horrors) offer refunds.
My frustration is the game was running great on Series X and 1.2 added in issues with pop-in that never existed before. Delayed textures seem to be rampant now when they never existed. While performance and stability seems to be great, it seems we are stuck in a fix one thing and break another.
I still play this game for the bugs I made my car fly in night city yesterday
@Bush Sorry to break that to you... But you brought a temporary game then, It will become useless after a while.
PS4 Pro here and the positive difference in performance and stability is definitely noticeable, as is the asset streaming delay. This was already a (slightly lesser) issue but this patch feels like a good trade off and a promising step in the right direction. I hadn’t had a lot of the well publicized issues so a more stable and consistent experience is just what the doctor ordered for this player.
I agree with @LordSteev that at this point I can’t see any reason why this isn’t back in the store. I legitimately had a buggier and more frustrating experience with The Witcher 3 at launch, a game I also love.
I plan to get it in a year or so for the PS5. I’m not buying buggy crap anymore.
Well, at least our Xbox friends are feeling the same pain, too.
Eh let me know when it’s fully polished and an actual ps5 version drops then I’ll hop in for a 2nd play through not rushing it since I already managed to painfully grind for the platinum already anyway. Good game without the billion issues but the 20 minutes u can actually sit through and play before stuff messes up it’s pretty fun
I'm over 40 hours now. The only issue I'm having is mission called beast within I think. Racing mission . The car literally falls through the ground. So it's unplayable
I've been playing for three days straight now, must have 80 hours or so in it overall and i'm enjoying myself for sure! PS4 Pro btw, the new patch made it definitely a more stable and smooth affair. This game feels like the ***** child of the daddies Far Cry, Fallout, GTA, Mirror's Edge and mommy Deus Ex!😁🤔🤷
@lolwhatno not sure what you mean but i love buggy games im fine
On ps5 it runs like a normal game now
I bet it won't return at all.
CDPR will simply start selling PS5 native version and that's it.
@Bush I just meant that the game is gonna get patched....eventually.
But after thinking if u're on base ps4, u got nothing to fear sir
Maybe it will be fully playable a few years after release. What a joke.
They should rename this game to Cyberpunk ETA 2077
@lolwhatno well then im gonna enjoy it until it gets patched! I've also been playing baldurs gate 3 on pc which is a bug fest atm
I'm playing on a base PS4 and it's much much better after the patches. The only real bugs I've had has been UI issues eg. subtitles staying on, fuzzy faces on NPCs but the graphics quality and general smoothness, particularly in interior scenes are actually pretty good. But saying that, whilst I thought it looked OK on a base PS4, I saw it running on a high end PC yesterday and now I can't unsee it. I was ssoooo jealous, it looked stunning - just like the screenshots. I'll definitely double dip when I get a PS5 ( whenever that is ! )
They also seem to have removed most of the traffic. This might be the most dead city I have ever been to.
I remember Rage on PS3, the textures popped in whenever you moved the camera... was so distracting. This isn't a game I was personally interested in, but I pretty much stopped buying new games unseen after Dark Souls 2 on PS3 turned out to be so very different to the pre launch advertised 'gameplay'.
I hate the fact I drive around the city and all the sudden the city is empty. Really ruins the game for me. Was hoping this fixed that but no luck.
I believe this game was meant too run on PS4 if it takes such a effort too make it run good. Its a pity they should have made it a native nextgen game with a year extra polish it probably would have been great.
I genuinely feel sorry for those people on console who think this game runs fine. Even on PS5 and Series X the performance is trash. If this is the level you are happy with then it's no wonder developers release games in such a mess. The game is infinitely better on a high end pc and I'm sat here moaning I get 50-100 FPS unstable fps at 3440x1440 Ultrawide with Ray Tracing DLSS. Stop settling for garbage.
This game shouldn't have to be released on base consoles.
Do you guys don't remember Shadow of Mordor on PS3/X360? It's the same situation here, but for some reason, I didn't see the backlash on the WB's game back in 2014.
I wish they'd just give up on the last gen systems and ask for refunds. The systems are STILL struggling to maintain 30fps even after all the bug fixes and downgrades they've done. If this doesn't tell you that Cyberpunk shouldn't have been made for last gen I don't know what will.
There's no defence for it now or then. They sold a broken product.
Saying everybody does it isn't a defense.
When it comes to this game it seems like people mostly fall into one of two camps. Those who haven't played it but for some reason bash it. And those who have played it and found it actually pretty good. The author of this article listed it in his top 5 games of the year....
What I also note is the review for disco elysium is still yet to be published, meaning push square have spent longer playing and accepting patches for that game than they did rushing out their 3/10 review for cyberpunk
@MatthewJP in all fairness, they waited quite a while before publishing that 3/10 review, and the reviewer had a game breaking bug along with a consistent crashing issue. I love the game, but I don’t think PushSquare deserves flack here.
This game needed to be delayed a year and be next gen only.
Started having issues on base PS4 after this patch. Pop in, radio not working, input lag and general sluggishness. Was fine before.
I'm another who's quite happy to wait for the full PS5 version. I've got enough of a backlog on PS4 & PS5 titles to see me through until this mess is sorted. I agree with @HeeHo but only that it should have been delayed a year...
Can't wait to see this run on the PS5 upgrade patch later this year.
Some here basically saying ‘mine runs fine now don’t see an issue’.
The problem is its still broadly a broken game. Overall its still a mess compared to what was promised in regards to performance on all consoles.
Sony has every right to keep this game off the store until they feel it meets the quality that was promised. Why would they put this game back on their store when its still broken and buggy as hell for the vast majority? They’d put it back up and it’d just make them look bad and you same people will criticise them for it 😂
Just borrowed a copy from a friend. I’ll see how it goes... (PS4 Pro).
@Frozzik we are sorry our Lord we shall not do it again
@Jacko11 there are many “broken and buggy“ games released all the time. Why is Cyberpunk the sacrificial lamb?
@Jimmer-jammer maybe because its the most social media trafficked, high profile and widely marketed game both inside and outside of gaming circles since GTA V.
Just a guess....
@Jacko11 ...and it’s a pretty good guess, but not the entire story. @LordSteev nailed the crux of what’s going on here. CDPR (clumsily) made good on their mistake and in an unprecedented move, offered refunds on their product for any who felt the quality of the game did not meet expectations. This exposed a weakness in Sony’s policies. Sony is still the only platform to have delisted the game. Considering I have encountered bugs and even a crash in Disco Elysium, a brand new release, the precedent has hardly been set by Sony. It’s impossible at this point not to read this as anything but punishment (for doing the right thing).
“Some here basically saying ‘mine runs fine now don’t see an issue’.” - The entire basis for this very site’s Skyrim review was basically: this game’s performance is a widely reported crapshoot, but our experience was relatively bug free so we’ll give it an excellent score, buy at your own risk. Skyrim is one of the most popular and revered games ever released.
Cyberpunk has issues but the general narrative has become hyperbolic and meandering.
@fR_eeBritney with expectations in check, I genuinely hope you have a good experience and can enjoy the game for what it is. I’ve had a lot of fun with it. Cheers!
@Rhaoulos Cyberfunk 😇
@Jimmer-jammer solid reply. I have no response 😂
Checked out the Skyrim review you linked. Wow, they put into words a lot of my thoughts and feelings about the game. It's a whole different thing now, smooth as butter on ps4. In many ways, this Cyberpunk situation shows parallels to Skyrim's initial release on ps3.
Someone (or several people) on this thread said they weren't going to buy buggy junk anymore. Well, I try to avoid buggy junk, too. There is, however, an enormous difference between buggy junk and a buggy masterpiece.
If bugs are your main concern, you could go buy something like Destruction All-Stars and be as happy as a warm kitten. Simple gameplay, simple mechanics, no need to overtax your gray matter. If, on the other hand, you appreciate complexity at high levels, support for being able to play as you choose, with no prerendered stereotypes, and a complex, living and breathing world, then you may either have to learn to accept some bugs on release, or play these games 2-3 years after everybody else does, which seems to be the industry standard in terms of when these games eventually shake everything out and run smoothly.
It amazes me, still, after all the time and articles since Cyberpunk's release, that you still get all these blowhards and yahoos racing in to warble some lame opinion about a game they never got into enough to let it get good. They say they can't be bothered, and yet it must consume them, since they can't leave it alone in the message boards.
Good posts, btw, thank you for the support!
This is a downgrade on ps4pro.
Just want to second what @Jimmer-jammer said. Hope you enjoy it!
P.S. I STILL want to know what you thought of Werewolf!
@Jimmer-jammer Cheers. I don’t have any expectations really. I don’t really know much about it tbh. Apart from the outrage.
I think I did watch one trailer ages ago. Other than that, I know Keanu Reeves is in it and it’s made by the people who made The Witcher 3... but I haven’t even played The Witcher 3...
So hopefully I will enjoy it for what it is 🤣
@LordSteev haha cheers.
Yeah, Werewolf was good.
If I’m being completely honest, I’d say wait for decent price cut. Just to be on the safe side.
Its a hard game to recommend because it’s very much a PS3 era game (in all aspects). Which would put some people off. But I can’t not recommend it because I still had a lot of fun with it.
If that makes sense 🤪
@LordSteev I felt it was an excellent review and not an unreasonable position to take given the circumstances. On the flip side, I don’t fault PushSquare’s Cyberpunk review for essentially landing on the opposite end of a similar situation...I wouldn’t give a vehicle a very good recommendation if it crashed constantly for me and ultimately couldn’t get me to my destination - how could I? I’m excited to finally have an opinion on Skyrim!
I don’t fault anyone who is quietly waiting to experience Cyberpunk at its best. That is completely reasonable. I take issue with the same unfocused anti Cyberpunk campaigns that you do.
Game culture is a funny one. In comparing Cyberpunk, I see large swathes of people praising Red Dead Redemption 2 for being as polished (though also not perfect) as it was. This game took over 8 years to develop, iterated on well established company gameplay processes, was a largely linear experience, and still took hundreds of employees “crunching” (a separate issue that I’ve not completely bought into) for years to ship it. Gamer’s expectations have become unreasonable. I would like to see the industry fully embrace early access. But of course, spoilers and so on would certainly be the next controversy...can’t win. 🤪
@fR_eeBritney Actually, it makes perfect sense. Thanks!
@Jimmer-jammer Yeah, I liked how they ended up giving it an 8, but said the performance issues were what kept them from giving it the score it truly deserved. That sounded like a 10 to me, based on the glowing praise throughout the review.
I don't know what I would do if I had to review Cyberpunk, and had a game-stopping bug. On one hand, I can't help but admire the sheer volume of good things that went into the game, while on the other hand, if the game wouldn't let me finish it, a cynical side of me would want to give it a zero. It's been the weirdest release I can recall, because it is at once a very good game, and at the same time a buggy mess for most when it was released.
It's just sad that many folks are going to read some flippant posts by people who invested no real time in the game, and end up not playing it. I feel there's a lot of people who would have really enjoyed it who are going to end up missing out on what would have been a great experience for them.
"If, on the other hand, you appreciate complexity at high levels, with no prerendered stereotypes, and a complex, living and breathing world"
C'mon hyperbole much? This BS is what got CDPR into this mess in the first place, overselling and hyping this game when they knew fine well it had massive issues - no environmental damage, NPC pedestrians that look the same, NPC's that behave horrendously when carnage is going on around them is NOT "complexity at high levels" or a "a complex living and breathing world". Far from it...
When games released decades ago can deliver things that CDPR's modern game can't then something's seriously wrong. There's no "complexity at high levels" here, only disappointment and unprofessionalisim, and tech that's bettered by games decades old...
@Profondo Read much?
I was generalizing about the type of games I like, big huge open worlds in general. Read it again, and see if you can't get the context right.
@LordSteev yeah it’s been a fascinating release. I’m curious to see how they incorporate the expansions and what all they add to the game. I will most certainly be double dipping when I acquire a PS5 in 3 years. 🙃
@LordSteev You may very well have been generalising but with heavy emphasis on CP'. After all this story and the comments are about CP. Sorry if I came across snippy, that wasn't my intention!
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