Trophy Hunter Mark Cerny Skips the Platinum if It Requires Online Play

Same. Only game I platinum'd that had online play was Doom 2016 cause they were really easy to get for online trophies.

Ghost of Tsushima Platinum is a joy to get. Some trophies don't even require all collectibles, more games should follow that

I feel you Mark. Every day. As I use my Mark Cerny mouse mat and stroke that beautiful face.

I don’t care one way or the other if it has online. I refuse to platinum a game that makes me beat it on the hardest difficulty. Not that I won’t play on hard but I always start on normal. If it’s too easy, I go up. If the difficulty is just right, I continue on. I don’t want to beat a game then have to beat it again just to get a trophy.

@nessisonett 👀👀👀👀👀

Same, I really hate Trophies where Online is required, as I never play Online / Multiplayer Games, unless the Multiplayer Game in question allows for some good old fashioned Couch Co-Op, I'd rather be in the same room as all me mates, way more fun and allows for some great banter.

I see. A fellow man of culture.

Most likely what my plan is moving forward as well. I’m not a fan of online trophies. Currently I have Killzone: SF and Uncharted 4 as the games left on my trophy list with online ones.

I Think Games Need To Take The Mass Effect Route Where You Can Earn a Trophy Through Ether The Single Player Or Mutiplayer.

@Areus agree.
or make the online trophies a seperate list like DLC trophies.

tbh there should be a rule against online trophies counting towards the platinum in a SP game with a online mode.

some games with a great SP campaign like resistance can't be platted anymore because the online is dead. and why do the gta online and red dead online trophies count towards the platinum when rockstar sees those game as seperate from red dead and gta v SP modes anyway?

obviously this should not be the rule for online focused games like COD and battlefield.

Worst online trophies has to be the the last of us and the remaster the Hunter and Firefly trophies are a nightmare if you don’t play online often

I remember trying to get the platinum Trophy on far cry 3 and far cry 4 on the ps3, but I gave up because of the annoying online Trophies. I did finally get the far cry 3 remastered platinum on ps4 though as thankfully no online Trophies.

Yeah, just like hard mode trophies, I often don't bother with them. Just keep it separate if anything.

I don’t mind if it’s like, ‘try 5 online matches’ or whatever but when it’s nonsense like ‘kill 10,000 players’ I just won’t even try.

Still, I’d rather they have a separate list for SP and MP trophies to stop the platinum becoming unattainable when they inevitably shut the online servers down.

Online trophies can be a pain, but I try not to worry about them. The only Platinums I chase these days are the readily achievable ones like Ghost and Horizon, or challenging ones like Streets of Rage 4, which is just a blast to play over and over.

Way back I did get the Resistance 2 Platinum, but the 10001 online kills trophy literally took me more than a year of playing a few daily deathmatchs. I don't necessarily regret doing that, but I would never do it again.

I dislike online trophies too but I don't let it stop me from striving for the platinum trophy.

As should developers.

Love going for platinum! Working on Yakuza Like A Dragon on PS5 now. Aiming for it to be my 250th platinum trophy.

So he basically saying that he stopped doing online trophies cause he got beat in an online match... Wow.

I like online trophies as long as they aren't ridiculous. I don't want to spend 1000hrs grinding for 10k kills.

Same for me. I simply don't play MP at all so if there is SP game i want to play but it has MP component as well with requirements to plat it for platinum, i automatically skip it

If I were a trophy hunter, I, too, would not bother with the online Trophies.

I despise online games these days - this is coming from someone who used to spend many hours playing MMO's. Can't stand them anymore. I do try various online elements/games in hopes that maybe something would grab my attention, but nothing ever does. People are just [expletive] and ruin the whole experience.

I usually try find fellow trophy hunters to boost with, especially Ubisoft games which always have that annoying couple of coop trophies

Multiplayer trophies should be a crime punishable with death sentence! Unless, of course, the whole game is online!

It's ironic considering Fall of Man didn't have trophies.

And I was like one online trophy from playing Resistance 2. The co-op MP in that game was so much fun.

I Platinumed Resistance 3 and Killzone 3 the Killzone 2 Platinum was ridiculous and so unbalanced.

I’m pretty much the same but it’s mainly due to anxiety issues if someone try’s to message me I panic and turn off the console also I can be sitting for half an hour on the matchmaking screen pressing cancel and accept because feel to anxious to play but I really like game. The platinum though I missed out on due to online play is the last of us I have all the single player trophies just missing the multiplayer ones.

@Constable_What I feel like I have begun to get a feel for the character in Overwatch when I get their trophy. The complaints I hear about not being able to get platinum because people dont want to play online is ridiculous, the point of the platinum is to do what there is in the game. If you dont like the multiplayer then why should you get a platinum, and why would you want something centered around 100% completion if you aren't going to play the multiplayer part of a game? You are just focused around the "100%" or some claim to being a big gamer (Even though they are often the type to not play any MP games, or just not the "popular" ones).

If you get the platinum because you liked the whole game and it is just an expression of your experience. I had 100% on the original Call of Duty games because I played every bit of it, campaign and multiplayer.

Even games with super rare trophies are awesome, and something you can appreciate without having, if you are not obsessed with the "Platinum".

@get2sammyb Thats what kept me from finishing the Resistance 2 trophies...

@JoshuaTChandler Oh yeah it worked out great with the Tombraider reboot which even was changed after the developers saw it was insane.

And i have a few other games in my collection with a small online community even at launch or even worse no online community locking you out of the Platinum from the start. Older games where its dead online.

Thats why it should not count towards the Platinum. It should be a separate list.

@Vivisapprentice I did that with the Tombraider reboot in the end i hated the game so much after i got all the trophies i just dropped the game. 😐

@grant4evergamer You are missing out on one of the best Multiplayers with Last of Us. This is a big reason why there is a multiplayer experience being developed for Last of Us 2. The multiplayer style isn't unique to the game but it easily added value to the game without having to develop a lot more, and the pacing of the game was more or less copied from the campaign, and it ended with a really unique feel to it.

@Sebatrox Thats one thing i had a game on PS3 talk too everyone and i missed one character 40 hours in so great those RPG trophies.

@Flaming_Kaiser Then you don't have it, and that's all that really needs to be from that.

The fact that you cannot get that trophy has now made it a rare trophy to have for someone. If you truly succeeded in getting a rare trophy, someone else didn't and that's why it is rare. You just got the back end of the circumstance that you wanted.

Even if nobody gets the trophy it is really cool and would then be just like video games with a glitch or bug, something stopping the character from going through. Such as Small Soldiers, The Mummy, or the outright broken Turok. You just don't see it as cool because you've developed a personal stake in it by wanting something that you don't have.

@JoshuaTChandler Lets agree too disagree how is it my fault if nobody plays online aka impossible too get the trophy.

@Flaming_Kaiser I did a similar thing with a Hitman game. After doing everything I could and using the trophies as a way to explore, I come to the last one and find out that the game is missing an object to complete it.

The worst would be to have enjoyed the game but couldn't enjoy it all, and that's why you don't have the platinum. Even then, if that platinum means more then "I did 100% of a list", then the game doesn't deserve to have platinum recognition because a real platinum game would be "all of it", not almost.

So it either really means something or it is just a number, and I rather have Sony cater to it meaning something.

Rocket League: "This is the only Platinum Trophy I’ve ever gone after that has a multiplayer component"... He says just weeks after platinuming Demon's Souls... Which has 2 online trophies 🤣 PAY ATTENTION MARK!!!

Same. And I'm mostly happy to skip any platinum that involves online but I'll always be a little bitter at not having the top trophy for TLOU Remastered.

@get2sammyb I think your neglecting the purpose of some and probably most multiplayers is to have to play again and again. A trophy saying you played a lot is a real multiplayer trophy. I liked looking at my total Payday hours and if I had a trophy saying how much I had played, it'd really be saying something.

The same with the Last of Us except I did not like the campaign. That multiplayer trophy would be easy and it would say that I was a part of an elite group of people, some would say the greatest ever, that genuinely liked the multiplayer.

@JoshuaTChandler I agree that some trophies are not for everyone but if i cant get them because of them being unachieveble then its ridiculous too have them. And im not complaining about trophies like BO3 online they are just too hard for me. But you have some great singleplayer games with a tacked on online which nobody plays and it feels like such a waste then.

Love how he actually recommended Gravity Rush remastered.

Same here Mark.

@get2sammyb I’m one single trophy off the Rainbow Six platinum because it requires me to kill one enemy with a breaching charge. It just never happened in the hundreds of hours I used to play. I hate trophies that require you to play in a specific way when circumstances and real life people can make it seemingly impossible.

@JoshuaTChandler I’ve tried it but I can’t put a finger on what it is the problem but the more intimate the multiplayer match so less players, small arena and especially the type of game the last of us is even in multiplayer which it’s slow paced thoughtful gameplay the more I find myself stressed out and having panic attacks, I can only play multiplayer when it’s the opposite so battlefield I can play large open to many players so no one cares about one guy doing his own thing I’m not a team player but even sometimes then I panic so I cannot get into the multiplayer of the last of us even though there’s no denying it’s amazing, without therapy anyway and that’s even more depressing than not getting a platinum but by being mentally blocked from playing amazing multiplayer games.

I find it quite impossible to hate anything that has to do with Mark, you could tell he really loves games and is not just a empty suit. On top of being a great guy he also has great taste in games.

I see a lot of online trophies get boosted rather than legitimately earned.

I have the Platinum for Rocket League. I did all the multiplayer stuff with a second controller. Didn’t play anyone online.

Just finished platinum for Days Gone Few days ago. HZD in the process.

Same, i only plat single player games i really enjoy and that don't require something absolutely absurd.

I have maybe one online trophy? I foggy remember Diablo3 platinum required 4players Diablo kill...

Anyway I try for platinum only if:
1. there are NO multi/coop trophies
2. max 2 playthroughs (second run is no longer than 4 hours)
3. there are NO "edge time" thophies (speed runs, flawless runs, luck runs)

In most times I hit the wall, because of 3 or more "complete game on X difficulty" trophies.

Thanks for posting the link. I'll read the interview when I have some time. That man blew my mind with Road to PS5 (and how he was misreported by about everyone including Digital Foundry).. Always inspiring to check out what he has to say. I don't even care about trophies

I used to do the same. I dont mind if theres only one or two these days. Hate trophy lists where the multiplayer takes over half the set and the single player has basic stuff. Then again i played assassin's creed valhalla for 108hrs to get its platinum so maybe im just mad

I tend to avoid games where there's a big MP component tied to completion. It's not so much about difficulty as it is about me not enjoying MP with random people in general, though. Unless I'm with friends, I'd rather play on my own.

I just get the Platinum trophy for games I really love. online trophies is a deal breaker if it's difficult to earn but it also makes it feel more rewarding when you do. In the PS3 days I was a big trophy hunter so MAG is the hardest online Platinum I chased. Now days I play too many games, I don't want to sink them kind of hours into online trophies.

I'd prefer if developers would keep the online ones as dlc (not required to get the plat) like CoD MW 2019.

My biggest regret was not getting the Platinum for Reistance 2. The multiplayer trophy for that broke my set. The only game out of that series is just 1 trophy away from the plat and it is a multiplayer one with a requirement of getting 10,000 kills in ranked matches. I reached 7,000 and needed a break. Was so busy with other games I forgot to return and finish it. Next thing I know the servers have been shut down

So nobody else bought a camera just to get the 'Send a Smugshot or a Mugshot' trophy in Burnout Paradise?

Just me then........

Generally these days if a game has online trophies it will stop me persuing any offline trophies that i find a grind as there is no point if i can't acheive the platinum.

@get2sammyb Another weird thing is MP only trophies such as Fortnite, where I can’t get the trophies since they’re tied to chapter 1 I think. I didn’t play much of chapter 1 and lost the opportunity I guess :-/

I do like the occasional trophy hunt, but mostly don't have time. Like Cerny, it's generally a 'not from me, if I have to play online (no plats for fighting games!) But a decent sp game, or rpg, will usually tempt me!

Totally agree there, and I also don't do any that require me to play the game through more than twice. I don't mind a replay if it's relatively short or a NG+ kind of thing, but playing through one game three or more times in a row is exhausting any way you slice it.

Demon's Souls requires online play to get a Platinum also...

Resistance Fall of Man has no Trophies.
Surely there was no completion incentive to do multiplayer anyway? Is there a reward for 100% multiplayer in that? concept art or something?

Having been a gamer since the mid 80's, MP just does not interest me. I am a trophy hunter, but like the majority here, I dont even bother trying to platinum games with MP content. I'll play the SP element of said games, but thats it. And yes, very annoying that a SP dominant game would have MP trophy earning elements just because they can. HZD, TLOU2, Days gone, Ghost of Tsushima, all very satisfying to earn the platinum....

The only reason i never got my Black Flag platinum. I got all the single player trophies but I had zero desire to play that game online.

@nessisonett Put a breaching charge on a wall or floor then plant the defuser next to it, when the enemy goes near it, click, boom.