You'll know by now that Microsoft has acquired Zenimax Media and all the developers it owns, including the likes of Arkane Studios, Machine Games, and id Software. This throws into question whether or not the likes of Starfield and The Elder Scrolls VI will come to PlayStation 5, but there now may be a few other releases launching a lot sooner that come with the possibility of skipping the system. IGN has spotted ESRB ratings for next-gen collections of the Dishonored, Wolfenstein, and PREY titles and the PS5 is nowhere to be seen.
The ESRB now lists a Dishonored & Prey: The Arkane Collection and a Wolfenstein: Alt History Collection purely for the Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S. The latter might sound familiar because the bundle actually already exists on the PlayStation Store, and so too does the former. The only discrepancy is that it released under the Arkane Anniversary Collection branding. We wouldn't take this as hard evidence that PS5 will miss out on these next-gen enhancements, but the fact that the console is missing from these ESRB listings could definitely suggest that is the case.
It's also worth noting that Bethesda has already confirmed that DOOM Eternal and The Elder Scrolls Online will both receive free PS5 upgrades in the future. That announcement did take place before the Microsoft purchase, however. Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time also has an age rating only on Xbox Series X right now too, but there's no way Activision will skip on a PS5 version for that. Do you think this will be the case here too, or are the Dishonored, Wolfenstein, and PREY games set to receive enhancements just on Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S? Debate away in the comments below.
[source ign.com]
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Oh no, how will I survive not getting to buy Skyrim a fourth time!
Aw, man — I never even considered this. All that said, I don't think this will happen because ESRB also rated Crash 4 for Xbox Series X only, and that obviously won't skip PS5.
So I'm not panicking just yet...
Perhaps the PlayStation will receive the games after a timed exclusive - X BOX owners can iron out all the million and one game breaking bugs before it hits the Sony systems
Interesting. Creating a new kind of moneyhatting where PS5 misses out on Skyrim Super Duper Special Edition would be peak 2020 😂
I doubt there's too much to worry about here personally. Besides, I guess worst case I'd imagine the games will still work via backwards compatibility, with the inherent benefits of playing on PS5?
That's it. PS5 pre-order cancelled. 😂
@CJM Yeah backwards compatible versions should always be available.
The only thing I’ll be disappointed by is Skyrim VR not getting an update for PS5.
I doubt it, wouldn't make any sense making them exclusive at this point when you'll still be able to buy all these games on PS5 and isn't Fallout 4 part of that PS plus offer for PS5?
Outside of potentially missing out on some spit and polish, I don't see this impacting PS5 owners very much. Although, releasing these game remasters on the PS5 would only make sense. They'll already exist in their PS4 upscaled state, so why not try to recoup some of that $7.5 billion without really giving up anything new?
Personally, I'm good with what I have. Fallout 4 is the only ZeniMax related title that I've played in the last 7 years.
Honestly don't care. Haven't played them anyway, and I don't buy new hardware to play old games.
@carlos82 They don't believe in exclusives over at Xbox towers anyway, do they? It wouldn't fit with their hard won pro-consumer image, would it?
If they're on PS5 i'll consider getting them. If I have to get Xbox to play ESVI then I guess I won't play it
Meh. These are just a few extra words because apparently 'meh' alone just isn't enough.
you mean we won't be able to experience old bugs in 4k, massive shame
I think the backwards compatible versions are bound to work. But should a new collection be released containing these older games I highly doubt they'll make their way to playstation. It is what it is in this case, not helped by the lack of clarity as to how PS5 backwards compatibility will fully function anyway.
I wouldn’t replay any of these games anyway so I think I’ll survive.
@pip_muzz they said it works, what more do you need
@CJM they are tired of hearing Xbox has no games. Can’t say that anymore.
i have no interest in playing these games. some of them i wish i never played the first time. as for the next elder scrolls - if it's not on ps5, i won't play it - and if it comes out later on ps5, i'll buy it used. one console is enough for me and i'm getting a ps5 for their 1st party games.
I had this generation to play these games..... Next
Why play Skyrim on the new Xbox when you can play it on PC with tons and tons of mods?
Honestly if you really wanted to play Bethesda games on console, from what I've seen and played of their multiplat games, the Xbox versions were always superior to the PlayStation versions in terms of performance and stability, and in addition to that I'm pretty sure Xbox players got all the DLC like a year before the PlayStation version in the case of stuff like Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Skyrim
Although PC will always be the objective best way to play and the only way I get those games to begin with so this doesn't really affect me. Just saying it's probably for the best if anything.
@CJM It's probably not going to impact Bethesda games as they are immediately but I guarantee Starfield and Elder Scrolls VI will probably be a whole different story since they're way further out
It'll basically be mimicking early Bethesda console releases like Morrowind which was an Xbox console exclusive but was also on PC.
It is what it is! The only games I would like to play would be the next instalment of Wolfenstein and Doom franchises (mostly Wolfenstein) but if they doesn't come to Playstation then I miss out (they both don't run that well on Switch so that's not an option). I am sure Wolfenstein is part of a trilogy so I just hope we get the final chapter!
@Jarobusa Only, people can still kind of say that I suppose. I mean, what Xbox exclusives do they have lined up for launch? I know Sony has dropped the ball recently and do deserve some criticism, but it's mad to me that MS haven't actually shown a next gen game running on series X/S.
Dishonored .prey and evil within is good.so if it doesn't come to ps5.i meant a sequel to those games will be crazy.word up son
@deathaxe That's actually pretty interesting. I only played Oblivion on PC but not on console but I do distinctly remember Skyrim and Fallout 3 being better on 360. Skyrim in particular was a bit of a mess on PS3 and didn't receive the expansions for stuff like Dawnguard, Hearthfire and Dragonborn for like a whole year
@nessisonett PS5 will exclusively be the only modern platform without a native Skyrim port.
Bethesda games never quite work on the platforms they are originally released for, so this news actually means something. :')
@CJM Tbh both console launches are pretty lacking imo
PS5 has the slight upperhand with Spider-Man and Demon's Souls but other than that there's a lot of multiplatform games and the library will be made slightly better with backwards compatibility.
@TheFrenchiestFry I guess we'll see what happens with ESVI and Starfield in due course! Anyway, there's no reason for me to consider getting an Xbox for a good while yet. Maybe when their exclusives start to trickle out there will be a more compelling reason.
@TheFrenchiestFry The thing is, even beyond Demon's Souls and Spider-man, for playstation exclusives there's the likes of Ratchet & Clank, Horizon: FW, Returnal, GoW: Ragnarok on the way in 2021 (possibly earlier for R&C). What does Xbox have coming soon? Halo: Infinite?
I really don't believe games that struggled to make money MP & will now make even less money being tied to one system will be what MS does. if they want to get even half that 7.5 billion back in the next few years.
they have to make good games for a start so let's see what Bethesda has for us in the next 3 years.
@Agricultural Joke all you want, Skyrim is one of my absolute favorite games and I’d happily pay for it again and again if they had something new to offer each time.
That's a bummer if it's true. I was wanting to play a few of these. Guess I'll just add it to the pile of games that I'll potentially buy on Xbox, if Elder Scrolls is indeed exclusive and I'm forced to buy one.
@CJM Ratchet & Clank and God of War are pretty big but Horizon is also a PS4 game from what I remember so it's not necessarily going to sell the console
It's a better turnaround in terms of content than the PS4, which imo didn't have much in the way of compelling games until Bloodborne, but even still I think with stuff like Game Pass Microsoft might be able to catch up in due time given not everyone is going to be down with paying $70 USD to play each exclusive. Microsoft has stuff that's not coming for a while but I feel like that has more to do with the fact they just don't have as many major first party studios compared to Sony that weren't recently bought like Obsidian or Bethesda. The PS5 lineup is extremely compelling for now, especially as a big JRPG guy personally, but I don't expect many of the problems of the Xbox One to repeat themselves this gen honestly.
It sucks sure but you can still play the base versions so no biggie in my book. Upgrades are nice but the games are still playable lol
Not paying $500 to play old "enhanced" games. Not an XSX or PS5.
If they had announced 3 new XSX exclusives for 2021 it would have been a big deal - but Vapor Ware, hopes and dreams do not move the needle much.
"We bought Bethesda" is not a game announcement.
@TheFrenchiestFry Yeah, it certainly seems like it’s going to be a much more level playing field this coming gen, which is all to the good in my book.
Also, that’s true about Horizon:FW, though I guess the fact remains that it’ll be something you can play on PlayStation but not Xbox, regardless of whether you’re on PS4 or PS5
@sanderson72 those aren't bugs... those are features. Lol
Zenimax Online have already announced that it's business as usual with ESO with continued support for the PS4/Pro and soon to be introduced PS5 updates.
At the end of the day, it'll come down to M$ making money. If the PS5 is successful, then Bethesda/ZOS will support it to make money.
I would assume that they would eventually provide support and upgrades for Dishonored, Prey and especially Wolfeinstein 2 as they barely sold well. Keeping that solely to one console may kill them off. But that's just my thoughts, Arkane is one of my favourites and this news bothers me deeply.
Already comfirm for free ps5 upgrade.
@CJM there is no confirmation that god of war will be a ps5 exclusive. i now have my doubts and fully expect it to be a ps4/ps5 cross gen title, along with gran turismo 7 and more. this trend likely won't stop until 2023.
@Porco Well there's no confirmation that it will be on ps4 either so we'll just have to wait and see. I suspect that if God of War had been in development for PS4 as well it would be further along like Horizon and they'd have shown something of it, so i suspect that will be PS5 exclusive personally, but who knows I could well be wrong.
@CJM the reason i say it will be a cross gen title is because it is slated for next year along with horizon. if both games do infact come out next year, it would be odd to make one a ps5 exclusive and the other a cross gen title. doesn't make a whole lot of sense considering cross gen is used for the purpose of capitalizing on the larger userbase of ps4 and sony would prefer a juggernaut ip like god of war to garner as many sales as possible. there might be a few exceptions along the way so that sony gives ps5 owners some "exclusive" value (demons' souls and ratchet and clank), but by and large, the next two years look like cross gen territory. resi 8 and other japanese games will target ps4 as well during this timeframe.
yes, i know, it takes the excitement away from the ps5 launch and holds back the potential of next gen games. i think it is a bad way of handling things, but this is the direction ryan wants to go in it seems (in addition to more pc ports).
Doom eternal already 60 fps on ps4 and I’m not too fussed about resolutions (as long as it’s minimum 1080p), so I don’t have problem with it.
So, I'm guessing that Rage 3, if announced, will be on Xbox first and the Playstation after?
@thefourfoldroot Agreed, one of the biggest things I was hoping for on PS5 was a Skyrim update even for the existing HMD that made it run at a useful resolution....... I was saving that game to play on PS5 for that reason.
@TheFrenchiestFry @deathaxe I played through Elder Scrolls 3-5 as they launched and Fallout 3 and NV a year later through the GOTY editions on Xbox, and they were pretty buggy and crashy by the standard of other games.
But I replayed these (except Morrowind of course) on PS3. Starting with Skyrim over the last few years and the rest this year. First you needed to disable auto saves because they could crash your console, corrupt your saves, and bring frames down to a crawl. Even with that they were still heavily prone to crashes. When deep in to the game, NV could load up areas and give you 2 frames a minute (if lucky). And Skyrim crashed so bad a few years ago that it killed my phat PS3 and forced me to get a slim (which is a nicer console, but I miss PS2 support).
The xbox versions have been quite playable, but the PS3 versions require a very dedicated and patient person to make it through. There's no question of which are the better versions.
On the topic of Outer Worlds. Obsidian already had a publishing deal to release the game on xbox and PS, and the game was nearly done well before MS bought them. It's not an example of MS putting their funded and published game on other consoles.
@Richnj Yeah I could gather that this doesn't immediately affect what was already set to be on other consoles. A similar thing happened with InXile with Wasteland 3 and Mojang with all their Minecraft stuff.
However considering how far out Starfield and especially TESVI are, I wouldn't be surprised if they hadn't definitively decided on specific platform targets by the time the acquisition was in talks of happening, and they'll end up being announced as Xbox/PC exclusives.
@NEStalgia
Me too. But hopefully back compat will automatically improve internal resolution anyway.
@thefourfoldroot My expectation going into the new gen on both platforms day 1 was basically based on the idea of a "video card upgrade" so that all my large library gets enhanced right away. We know the X Series X will do that. But I don't think Sony's said anything about doing that, and Cerny seemed to confirm the opposite. It took a lot of the excitement away from the PS5 arriving for me. I know with the new XB I can dig into my back catalogue and everything is better than it was on my old box. But right now I'm expecting that PS5 is simply going to perfectly emulate my existing 4Pro as though I'm still using the old box and didn't buy the new one.
MAYBE it will get enhancements automatically, and that would be a huge thrill. But so far I'm not counting on it based on what we do/don't know, unfortunately.
I'll still hope for it though. Skyrim was the most amazing presentation of PSVR but that resolution really lets it down severely.
No desire to repeat any of these. I hate remasters at the best of times, only few have been worthwhile.
Big deal, it's the only thing xcrones will have for exclusives so I'm happy for them.
It's happening already . I hope Sony buys CDPR , Square , Bluepoint (kind of already did) , Take two Inc. To everyone here don't tell me this wont happen , let me dream................ but then you never know
@Richnj Thats why i really wasnt bothered by losing Bethesda. Skyrim made me not care and all the other problems with the other games. Dishonored and Prey will be missed though.
Considering that Microsoft's acquisition of Bethesda was very recently, i am sure PS5 versions of these collections were already well into development so it wouldn't make sense to me for them to just abruptly cancel those.
@thefourfoldroot is it really worth playing on VR? I’ve been considering it for some time now.
@cloud36426
If your have the choice of playing anything in VR or out of VR, play it in VR. It’s inherently better.
Will you enjoy the game if you don’t like Skyrim just because it’s in VR? Probably not, although you’ll be amazed at some of the views.
@thefourfoldroot oh I enjoy Skyrim. Just was curious if it justified to buy it for the third time. I still haven’t completed it though.
@Medic_Alert the whole point in spending 7.5 Billion is to make money back Bethesda games like Elder & Fallout made the money so the other studios could keep making games.
all I see is the Xbox Division spending money with no profit coming back I get it will have a little bump on game pass but that model makes no profit as well. not sure how long the Xbox Division will keep wasting money with no big return it is a black hole.
the next 3/4 years will be very interesting for the Xbox Division.
Im just wondering if all future bethesda titles wont be exclusives to the xbox. Cause i want fallout 5, elder scrolls 6 and skyrim 2. Ive always gone with playstation but this time im getting both to explore what xbox has to offer. Game pass is really good. Sony could bundle playstation now for free with ps plus but i dont know if they would go for it
@Medic_Alert what good is getting people on a platform that makes no money?
@Medic_Alert starting to think you see MS as a cash cow that can just buy anything without worry of making it back because if you believe that you have no clue. how can they make a profit on something that makes no profit games pass is a black hole.
@Medic_Alert you really are lost on that MS Kool Aid bottomless pit of money lol shareholders would love you
@Medic_Alert you really like to come across condescending & as for insult seriously grow up.
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