The video game industry is weird at the minute, so it’s perhaps no surprise that Microsoft bigwig Phil Spencer has been asked whether Xbox Game Pass could come to other consoles, like the PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 5. Obviously, the answer is no, but given the executive’s platform agnostic approach in recent years, we can understand why some outlets would be eager to grill the talkative suit on the topic.
“In places where we have brought Xbox, like mobile phones like we're doing now with Project xCloud and with Xbox Game Pass Ultimate on PC, we know when somebody is playing one of our Xbox games there is an expectation that they've got their Xbox Live community, they have their Achievements,” he explained. “The other competitive platforms really aren't interested in having a full Xbox experience on their hardware. But for us, we want to be where gamers want to be and that's the path that we're on.”
Sony, of course, wants PS5 and PS4 owners to be purchasing games through the PlayStation Store and subscribing to services like PlayStation Plus and PlayStation Now, so it’s not going to forego all of that revenue in favour of offering Xbox Game Pass as an option. The same is true of Nintendo, too. But then, you didn’t really need this article to tell you that, did you?
[source youtube.com, via tweaktown.com]
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Damn!!!
And its Sony s fault again. Phil said so
But didn't he say exclusives hurt the industry?
I am terribly shock
We did get EA Access eventually. But the same subscription doesn’t work across both Xbox and PlayStation.
🤔 well duh.word up son
But..But BUT he said "console wars" were stupid, Platform exclusives were "hurting the gaming industry" and doesn't believe in forcing people into new console generations... something something massive hypocrite.
But console exclusive is bad, where's my gears 5 and halo infinity with a dash of ori and cuphead on ps5?
@gmxs
but but I thought xbox has no exlusives, so where are these xbox exclusives you talking about?
Strange. Phil Spencer says "exclusives are counter to what gaming is all about" and he wants to be "inclusive" while excluding two platforms that are in a better sales position than your own?
Actions speak louder than words Phil and you've just contradicted yourself again.
Pretty sure this guy doesn't know whether he's coming or going constantly talking smack about the competition while flip-floping on his own words.
Can't understand how anyone believes a word he's ever said.
@Murray I guess you didn't get the point.. Nobody has said anywhere MS dont have exclusives, they do, of course they do! Forza, Gears, Halo, Hellblade 2, Cuphead etc
The point is, he has been running his mouth off all last week, making contradictory statements about it, if he doesnt believe in console wars, or platform exclusives then why doesnt he put his money where his big mouth is and release all those MS exclusives on other platforms? Afterall they hurt the gaming industry as he said. And why did they discontinue priduction on all X boxes apart from the S literally a few hours after he said he doesnt believe in forcing people into new console generations?
People are rightfully taking the mick out of him for it all, cos none of it makes any kind of sense.
He wants to be where gamers want to be, yet he's touting gamepass on xbox? The 100 miilion ps4 owners and high number of switch owners are being pretty clear on where they want to be. Its not xbox 😅
@gmxs
To make this clear I have several consoles incl. all playstations.
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Nobody has said anywhere MS dont have exclusives
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sorry thats bs, just look at twitter or any other place where xbox stuff get announced, you allways find posts from ps-fanboys (btw fanboys are bad on every platform) who claim that xbox has no exclusives, since the games come also on pc.
Actually you can get xgs games on pc and xbox, some even on ps4 and switch. With xcloud at the end of the year you can play them on even more hardware. Compare that with new ps5 games.
Or do you think to fulfill the "exlusives are bad" they have to release it on every hardware platform on earth? They are more open then sony and nintendo as it is now.
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And why did they discontinue priduction on all X boxes apart from the S literally a few hours after he said he doesnt believe in forcing people into new console generations
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Forcing people into new gen was probably more for people who allready own a xbox. But even if not, you can still buy the xbox s and I guess you also know that the chance that they bring a low cost xbox series is high, so you then have probably the choice between cheap xbox S, low cost xbox series and the xbox series x.
Do you really think sony would allow xbox gamepass on ps5 with all the gamepass features as Phil mentioned?
hypocrisy at its finest
We're not missing out in anything only 2 games Xbox has is Halo & Gears anything else is ehh
@Pako_rubio714 Well, Forza, Ori and Hellblade 2 and Cuphead are all quality games you won't find on PlayStation. It's not enough for me to pick one up either, but dismissing the Xbox lineup as just Halo and Gears is doing it a bit of a disservice, too.
@Murray was literally just about to write something similar. Push square has become quite skilled at providing stories to incite a lot of fanboys - although it doesn't seem to take much right now. I guess this drives a large proportion of their advertising revenue so it pays, literally, to report information in this way.
Unfortunately both Sony and Xbox fanboys just serve as a reminder that there are a very vocal group of people that are too immature to enjoy the hobby in the way it is intended.
How is he flip flopping or being a hypocrite? He literally says it’s the competition who don’t want Xbox games on their systems. They can’t force Sony to let them release Halo on PS5. Say what you want, but his messaging seems to be entirely consistent with what he has said about exclusives not being so important to Xbox in the past.
It would be cool if there was a service out there where you could play any game on any platform. I would pay for that subscription..... Sharks and/or dragons, I have an idea for you to invest in.
"When everyone plays, we all win......except if you own a PS4 and/or PS5 and want Game Pass."
No reason why Sony couldn't rebrand PS+ and PS Now into a Gamepass equivalent service. But go one further and let you carry on playing a game even after it's no longer in the 100 games (subscription still being paid). Games I like on both platforms, I just happen to like more titles on PlayStation. Looks like I'll have to play Hellblade 2 on PC. The first one got me hooked because I watched all the developer diaries so impressive.
I for one would very much like Xbox Game Pass on the PS5. It's win win in my book.
How very "anti-consumer"
I was looking forward to GamePass & Xcloud to make it's way to the PS5.
Oh well. Maybe my phone will do instead.
Phil contradicts himself again
@AdamNovice how?
@AdamNovice It’s a very presidential style isn’t it.
I think what's wrong with what he said is implying that other consoles are to blame. Truth is, the time isn't right yet.
I would take Xbox Game Pass on Nintendo Switch any day, and I'm sure anyone of you would, too. But it would necessitate a good streaming infrastructure, and at the moment internet connections flat-out don't allow it.
I just got optic fiber-powered online, and it still (occasionally) runs like crap. I shudder at the thought of what Xbox Game Pass on all devices entails outside of a country as technologically evoluted as Japan.
@kyleforrester87
"Just win the race, just win the race, just win, just win, just win the race!"
Didn't he say that limiting consumers to a specific box was anti-consumer? 🤔
He just needs to go away and let games do the talking....
I could care less about this. Not a fan of this whole Game Pass idea. I hate the idea of not having actual ownership of my games.
@gmxs beautifully said
I want the games Sony makes & that model would not work it devalues games imo.
anyone else getting sick of hearing Phil Spencer's baloney!
Phil i feel excluded so we can agree that the man is full of nonsense.
@kyleforrester87 Because he said that keeping games on certain hardware is counter to what games is about but now when asked if he's prepared to put the service that would their games available to much bigger audiences then Xbox will ever have, he won't do it. He's trying to have his cake and eat it at the same time.
@AdamNovice From the above article...
“The other competitive platforms really aren't interested in having a full Xbox experience on their hardware. But for us, we want to be where gamers want to be and that's the path that we're on.”
He’s saying if Sony and Nintendo were interested in having Xbox services on their hardware they would supply it as they want to be able to reach as many gamers are possible.
Where are you reading that he is the one refusing to do this?
@JapaneseSonic it can be used as a noun to describe a liquid, especially water 😉
@kyleforrester87 I highly doubt Sony would stop Halo from appearing on their console as an essentially third-party game. They need to prove they petitioned Sony before anyone can say Halo is being blocked on Playstation. Sony would jump for joy at the absolute domination MS would be giving them at that point. His messaging is inconsistent and hypocritical. He simply said stuff he never should have said and would be bad business for MS do what he’s saying.
@SegaBlueSky Im only interested in Hellblade and Gears of War. 😆
@kyleforrester87 The guy says something different every day its equivalent of Trump in the gaming industry.
We dont need platform wars two weeks he is taking cheapshots the guy is a full on liar.
We dont want crossplay previous generation. This generation why does Sony not care for crossplay.
Exclusives are anticonsumer after buying games too make them platform exclusive. Yeah the guy should do the campaing for Trump.
@Royalblues Why have a console then? Phil isnt pushing a console he is pushing a platform.
@Flaming_Kaiser @Jaz007 I’m just pointing out that in this case there is no hypocrisy or inconsistent messaging from his earlier position (that I can detect). Earlier comments here are suggesting he is literally saying in this article “we will not put Xbox games on PS4”.
I don't want NOTHING to do with Microsoft and their Xbox brand :-/ Just GO AWAY
@SincereMan he’s never said he wouldn’t expect putting Xbox games on other systems to be profitable. Of course he wouldn’t be doing it as a friendly favour. But that’s beside the point, and I am just calling out those suggesting he’s being a hypocrite.
I thought it was a bizarre idea. Why would Sony or Nintendo allow M$ to put their game streaming service on their platform. Phil is a strange chap. I wouldn't like to work for him.
@kyleforrester87
But, Playstationz rules all dude. You're getting in the way of the narrative. Someone said Spencer was like Trump, but I think he's actually the Antichrist.
@kyleforrester87 Thanks Kyle, it's a pleasure to see an island of intelligence amidst this endless ocean of fanboy ignorance.
@LocalPenguin While I love it up here on my high horse I am guilty of baselessly bashing on things to be fair 😂 😬 only human....
@kyleforrester87 Hahaha yeah, I see your comments 😂 Still, it's nice to see. In the last 6 months or so this site's comments section has become almost unbearable.
@LocalPenguin i respect the guys who run the site, but I agree, and I understand why it’s got a bit worse (lockdown, new gen incoming, etc) but I would like to see articles being a little more constructive. I tend to have to read here, then Pure Xbox, to get a balanced view on these subjects.
(P.S Ubisoft suck!)
@kyleforrester87 Yeah I've been on the site for about 7 years I'd imagine and thoroughly enjoyed it. I do feel like Sammy and the gang are partly responsible for this behaviour mind, every article seems to fan the flame war. Xbox is mentioned in everything, completely unnecessarily most of the time. I'd also like to know the average age of posters on this site? 🤔
(P.S. Ubisoft DOES suck!)
I generally don't like console exclusives from 3rd party developers but have learned to live with it. Big releases are usually timed exclusives so be patient. Does Xbox really expect to see Uncharted, God of War, etc. on Xbox? First party developers can be the difference between failure and success of a console. A huge advantage if you have good teams, they all have good teams.
Not surprising, though I still might get a Gamepass sub just to play a couple of games with a co-worker who is on Xbox.
I'm really hoping a complete rebuild of PS Now is one of the surprises Sony announces in the coming months. I can understand why they didn't put a lot of time/enerergy/resources into drastically improving it when they had the various models of PS4 outselling the various models of Xbox One two to one, resulting in a 50 million plus lead in unit sales, but now that we are starting over with a new console gen, I think it's time they made more of an effort to make it at least somewhat comparable to GamePass.
Even if they still didn't add their big exclusives to PS Now at release, changing the wait time for them to appear on there from years to 3-4 months would be a large first step in the right direction in my opinion. Because as is, I just don't see the value in it as I already own most of the games I'd want to play by the time they get added to PS Now.
@Thosedamnfeels PC isn't a competitor? Mmmm...ok.
Glad you understand "basic commerce" 🤣
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