The greatest will-they-won’t-they saga in gaming finally has a conclusion: Death Stranding will release on the PC next year. The game had been announced for computers right at the very beginning of Hideo Kojima’s relationship with Sony, but when the auteur opted to employ Guerrilla Games’ proprietary Decima Engine technology, many felt that a port had been ruled out.
However, despite the Japanese giant owning the intellectual property, it’s decided to license the product out to 505 Games, enabling a PC release in 2020. That’s probably as far as the product will go; we wouldn’t hold your breath for an Xbox One or Nintendo Switch version at this stage. It’s not all that different to the way the platform holder’s handled, say, Monkey King: Hero Strikes Back.
So what gives? Well, while the idea of PlayStation exclusives appearing on computers once seemed strange, it’s really not that surprising anymore. We’ve seen big name titles like Detroit: Become Human and Beyond: Two Souls make the jump this year alone, while the likes of Journey and Everybody’s Gone to the Rapture are other examples from this generation.
In some cases, the manufacturer has even published the titles on marketplaces such as Steam itself, rather than license the products out to third-parties. And it’s been relatively open about the idea, explaining in an interview that “it may need to lean into a wider install base”. In fact, if you factor in PlayStation Now, even internally developed titles like God of War can be played on PC – at least temporarily.
Why, then? Well, the answer is an obvious one: it has minimal material impact. Death Stranding, for example, is still launching as a PS4 exclusive; if you want to be part of the zeitgeist and be among the first wave of people to play the title, you’ll be doing so on Sony’s system. There may be a small number of people who wait for the PC port, but this figure is unlikely to be particularly substantial.
It’s worth adding that, as the owner of the IP, the company will still see some returns on the port – and allowing Kojima Productions to re-release the title at a later date may have played a part in it landing the publishing contract to begin with. In an age where third-party exclusives are rare, the organisation may have learned that it has to give some leeway in this department.
Does that mean that all future PlayStation exclusives will come to PC? Well, no, it still has a mandate to support its own hardware as effectively as possible. But in fringe cases like Death Stranding, how much does this really matter? Time will tell, we suppose, but beyond the furrowed brows in enthusiast forums, we just can’t see this having much of an impact at all.
How much do you think Death Stranding’s non-exclusivity matters? Will this hurt the title’s performance on PS4, or is it a non-issue? Connect in the comments section below.
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Why do you think Microsoft is still selling Minecraft on every console money.
I only really have a problem with it if they start putting 1st party games on other platforms cos I always feel it defeats the purpose.
Tbh I can see a future in which platform holders do streaming services on other platforms to get a slice while maintaining the native experience on the actual console.
@Areus They get payed anyway and i think 90% will buy it on console anyway.
@Areus Might as well be a PS4 exclusive at that point.
Nop, doesn't matter. Just like MH: World on PC. If on same day, I would have thought about it. But not if I need to wait (same story as Switch)
Point of having a PS4 is that you get just about everything on day 1 for your investment.
@Areus I’d probably still buy it. Valve care just as little about me as Epic do so it’s not really a big difference.
I'll be buying it on PS4, since it's going to take me until 2020 to figure out what's going on
There was no need for this article
@Areus Only a vocal minority care about that.
No problems finding people to play Borderlands 3 with and no problems with John Wick HEX. No crashes or restarts
Have 5 games on it and everything has worked fine.
Be getting it on Ps4 but won't be getting the collectors edition anymore thats for sure.
A baby statue is weird enough but one that ain't exclusive, nah Im good lol
i don't understand why it would, surely if you think it's a great game you would want as many people to play it as possible so it succeeds, the fact it's on a different system than the one you would be playing it on isn't important, the only thing that matters is the game not which plastic box you put it in
this reminds me of a discussion i had with some one i know at work who said that if the rumours of FFVII Remake coming to XBOX Scarlet are true then he wont be buying the game as it shouldn't be on anything but a PlayStation
i told him to grow the **** up, he then asked me what if FF went XBOX exclusive so i said that i'll get an XBOX
i main on PlayStation because i enjoy them and the suit my needs and wants but that's all, i have no warped attachment to it like others seem to do (and other systems too)
I’m not happy about it. I’m not happy when other system exclusives move around either. All it does is devalue whatever it’s main system is. That’s a huge reason as to why I haven’t bought an Xbox this gen. Sony keeps pushing this line, the best option WILL be to own a PC.
I don't care whether or not games are only exclusive on a single platform (like Uncharted), Console exclusive so also playable on PC (Like Nioh) or available on any platform that is capable of playing that game - the ONLY thing that matters to me is that I can get to play and enjoy it. I really couldn't care less that other gamers not on the same platform can also play and enjoy that game.
It has NO impact on me whatsoever if PC gamers get to play some of the games I am playing on Console as I don't game on PC's. It doesn't affect my plans to buy and play the games I want. If I was interested in Death Stranding, I would buy it on the [best] Platform that I have to play it on and it wouldn't stop me from buying/playing a game that others get to play and enjoy.
I really don't understand that selfish mentality from gamers who get angry or upset that others, people they don't know, may get to play a game they can. I really don't see why they can be angry or upset - its not stopping them from buying and playing. I could understand if a game they hoped/expected to be playable on their preferred platform was suddenly cancelled and moved to a different platform or even delayed with a timed exclusivity on their preferred platform (like Rise of the Tomb Raider was for example) but adding another platform to its release has absolutely NO impact on them or their ability to play the game on their platform.
The only ones to benefit from Exclusivity are the hardware manufacturers who use them to get you to buy their hardware - whether its the 'best' platform for the majority of game releases or not. It only benefits 'Sony' to have Exclusives to Playstation - it doesn't affect gamers at all - other than to make them buy Sony hardware. It doesn't help Devs/Publishers as it reduces their selling potential, cuts out a percentage of the gaming market and reduces profitability. For 1st Party studio's, that can be offset by shifting hardware and all the software (regardless - not just exclusivity as the Hardware makers also get some money from ALL software sales) but for 3rd Party, its a reduction of their potential audience.
It doesn't matter to me though if I have a Platform to play the games I want that others regardless of their platform, whether its the same as mine or not, also have an opportunity to buy the same games and enjoy them too...
@OmegaStriver Facts Omega, soon as Sony cross that line, I'm done just like Xbox, Pc the place to go, I ain't loyal to no box that aint got exclusives.
Short answer NO
Long Answer. Heeeeelllll NO. Kojima is practically a synonym for Sony and Playstation.
Lol of course it doesn't matter. Games being on PC or other consoles in no way prevents you from getting them on a PlayStation console. If you have a problem with it, you're the problem js
@BAMozzy "I really don't understand that selfish mentality from gamers who get angry or upset that others, people they don't know, may get to play a game they can. I really don't see why they can be angry or upset"
it's Tribal Culture, same with over zealous football fans, it's their "tribe" and anyone who isn't a part of it is the enemy and can't have what they do
Well its not the first time that an non first party studio releases a game on ps4 and then pc is it? People make a fluss out of nothing whether they are for exclusives or not. Both make a fuss for nothing.
Theres no debate.
Why anyone other than Sony/MS/Nintendo would care about what platforms a game is released on is beyond me. Good games on multiple platforms sounds good to me.
@PhantomXIII basically the babies don't want anyone else playing with their toys is that it?
While it is a bit surprising that a game running off the Decima engine is coming to PC, it’s not a bad thing that more gamers will get to try Death Stranding. I’m still getting it at launch on PS4 because I would like to experience it now and there are way too many games coming out next year that I would rather focus on.
By the time Death Stranding releases on PC I will be knee-deep in TLoU: Part II.
@PhantomXIII yeah that made sense
After a Year who cares.
at this point it probably doesn't matter at all. if it were releasing next year as a PS5 launch title (no PS4 version) then it definitely would matter more imo. exclusives are a differentiator, they're what persuade people to buy that hardware.. if you don't have that, and people are persuaded to go elsewhere, then what happens when the third party support dries up because the install base isn't worth the effort?. just look at the wii-u.
Never mattered to me to begin with, still doesn't matter to me now. I've banged this drum before-
"I just don't make a big deal about it because as a PS4 owner, I can play it either way. The system already has a large lineup of exclusive titles, and already has sold many, many systems. I'm not saying they should stop making exclusives or selling units, I just don't see a reason to make a huge deal about it this late in the generation, when a ton of money has already been made. PlayStation is fine, not having it 100% exclusive isn't gonna kill them, and they'll always have more exclusives later on."
-Me, 7th August 2019, replying to a comment.
Reusing my own comment is probably lazy as heck but I dunno how many times I can say it differently.
It doesn't matter to me. But objectively speaking, why did Sony fund Death Stranding? Provided the engine? Gave Godjima and his studio all the spotlight and stage time? They're treating a multiplat with more respect, support and effort than their own first party exclusives. I don't wanna know how much money went into the entire Godjima collaboration. They could have and maybe should have spent it more wisely in favor of the PS4 hardware value.
If you really want the game you will be playing on PS4. Just like Red Dead Redemption 2 no one cares when it launches in the following year for PC.
@BAMozzy Exclusivity matters greatly to gamers, that's the sole reason to own a console and it breeds competition. If we take the entitled mindset of "no exclusives", you'd see no competition. This is why Xbox is failing hard and going 3rd party. Even Stadia is going to have AAA first party (exclusive) content because several platforms that all carry the same library without unique content all end in failure. For some gamers it is odd to see them mad or upset about a game going multiplatform like it is here, but for most who are upset about it they know what this continued trend will bring. As MS ventures deeper into becoming a 3rd party publisher, and their continued support of anti-consumer services and subscription models, they're tricking gamers into a "value". If they continue to make money doing this, eventually it will lead everyone to doing the same thing. We absolutely need Sony, Nintendo, and oddly Stadia to push out these enormous exclusive games. Death Stranding initially being advertised to have a PC port isn't that bad, we already knew, but exclusivity needs to get stronger.
It is nice to see some intelligent individuals though that understand "console exclusive" is a fancy word for multiplatform, and part of MS' failures this gen.
@DeepSpace5D I dont see how Decima running on a PC is a shock.....given stuff like the engine itself, and the games in it....are built on PCs....
Plus even beyond the "How software development works" side of it, PS4, Xbox One, PS5 and Scarlett all use the same architecture as modern PCs. All you need to do is scale to the capabilities of the machine.
I think matters alot. Gotta love how they waited till the last min to say this.
@Flaming_Kaiser Because Minecraft started as multiplatform game in the first place and were already released on concurrent platforms before their buyout anyway. Forcingly making it xbox/microsoft store exclusive would made a gigantic backlash that could damage already gained brand. And there were still millions of physical copies on the market.
@Nintyfan THIS, exactly this. If Sony releases their systemsellers (which today are first parties) on concurrent platforms they will shrink their installbase and thus have smaller budged and won't fund risky and unique projects like Death Stranding or Dreams anymore. Why would you push those while being third party, when you can gain much more using the same amount time and money with appealing to the lowest common denominator? Look at EA or Ubisoft.
So in conclusion - it DOES matter, because it builds the brand awareness and further lets unique things to be done, which normally wouldn't happen with third party publishers, not because of technical but business issues.
Pc players have to dodge spoilers for 6 months, if someone wants to be a jerk they could actively spoil the game on pc forums I guess.
@Areus I don't think it'll happen. Kojima and Gabe Newell are on good terms.
Also, the poll needs a "Both" option imo.
Not playing it untill I read some reviews.
My days of gaming on a PC are past me. When I find time to play a game, I do it on my PS4. It's simplicity and convenience at its finest. Justifying multiple consoles isn't something I'd consider, so when choosing a console, I choose the one that offers me a wide selection of unique games that fall within the genres I enjoy. Sony meets those requirements. Whether the games are available on PC or not has no impact on my gaming requirements.
That said...if there's an online component with the "strands" and crossplay is implemented...I will always have concerns about PC cheaters.
@get2sammyb kinda off topic, but has it ever been confirmed if ps plus is required for online components of the game?
Does its matter for the player? No. We all will be able to play it.
But it matter for PS as a platform, every exclusive lost make PS4 less relevant. Look what happen to Xbox One this generation.
Nintendo understood this long ago, thats why they hoard their IPs.
@ellsworth004 It was confirmed it won't. I suppose the game won't have real time multiplayer and you would not be able to meet any other players.
@Dange @snakemake i guess its gonna be similar to Dark Souls except others cant come and help you.
It does matter and its a mistake. Regardless of if its one game, it devalues the PS. Sony has lied about this game being "Only on PlayStation" instead of being honest from the get go.
There was an interview where Kojima said the game was not going to PC. The perception of Sony games going to PC will be there (its already there) and will hurt the brand. I canceled my pre order of the collector's edition because they do not deserve extra money from me for lying to the consumer.
I will just buy the standard instead and was thinking of waiting for it to go on sale. Its the principle of it. Be upfront from day one so everybody know's what the truth is. The value of a console is its exclusive games and if it is on better hardware why should anyone buy it on PS4? I also canceled my pre order of TLo2 special edition.
I will just get the standard edition of that too. I realize that there is no need for me to over invest in Sony anymore. If I had a gaming PC I would just buy Death Stranding on PC instead, because it would make the most sense.
Nintendo appears to be the only one who know's the value of exclusives completely these days. If it is not a big deal then why not put all games on PC?
You either all in with "Only on PlayStation" or everything goes to PC. Can not half a$$ and play both sides. Nobody wins with this.
Rather than the exclusivity itself maybe the way it's handled is weird, in the early days of ps4 it is more clear what some games status are, sf5 is console exclusive, another games is timed exclusive, etc. But now some games will have logo "only on playstation" in the website but sometime sony will erase the logo and the games released on another system/pc. Maybe it's better if sony/kjp say the game is timed exclusive from the beginning.
Not a problem for many people though since I'm sure the game will sells best on ps4.
@GodGamer I don't think there's interview where kojima says the game will not be on pc. Since games are more expensive to make, 3rd party exclusives like persona 5 is increasingly rare.
Hmmmm I should be less worried than most. I game on PS4 predominantly and have a decent laptop and PC which I play a bit (strangely a lot more recently with free games being fired in all directions). But worried I am.
I was very jealous of The Last of Us, Heavy Rain and Uncharted 2 as I couldn't play them last gen. Critically acclaimed. I had made my 360 bed so had to suck it up. When the ps4 arrived I got TLOU remastered as my first game. It was absolutely amazing (as you all know).
If exclusives are just being dropped over to PC a year after release then that scenario would never had happened. I would have just sat it out on PC.
We are always hearing that the next generation will be the last for consoles. I totally get that being a positive for PC centric Microsoft but for Sony or Nintendo its a dumb move to port exclusives over regardless of the short term monetary incentive. As it really will become the last generation for consoles and Sammy, Rob, Stephen and Co will all be unemployed or working for PC gamer. Bad times.
Why not go all in and just release all of their exclusives to PC! that way more people get to play Horizon and TLOU2!? I expect all the people here saying it doesn't matter to join me to petition for Uncharted 4 and God Of War to be on steam so more people can play them and enjoy them 😒
Its quite funny seeing all the "pc" players come out the wood works, most of you were hating on the game but now love it.
Don't worry though, I will be spoiling the game to every one I see on twitter who is bragging about this, call it payback for trying to spoil the game early for ps4 players before you knew it was coming to pc.
I guess the game cost a fortune to make, and perhaps is a little to niche (or age restricted) to make it’s money back alone on the PS4. Which is the complaint Konami had about Kojima’s Metal Gear Solid 5 if I remember correctly?
Not saying it won’t be good for it’s audience, just it may be too weird to garner a Spier-Man sized player base.
can we get GEARS 5 in return?
I buy all the consoles for their console exclusive features:
Sony has it's cinematic single-player experiences.
Nintendo is just Nintendo.
Xbox has a sprinkle of exclusives and Game Pass.
This game releasing on PC won't devalue the game as a Sony console exclusive.
@SaikoWaifu2003 So, you are one of those people that want all games on all platforms right? You wanna know what get for that. Ubisoft, that’s the games you get. When you have a company NOT focusing on a single platform you get mediocrity. I’m not a fanboy, I’m just not a dumbass. I have no issue buying multiple systems, I own multiple systems.
@lacerz I can agree with that.
I think it does a little. Now when PS5 launches, there won't be a significant enhancement version that will matter........ because it will already be on PC and better than PS5. They should have brought it to PC at least a year and a half later.
Plus, I hope there are no screw ups with the Decima engine and people find new Killzone or Horizon Zero Dawn 2 files hiding in it. What am I saying, of COURSE that is going to happen.
But I think other games like Spiderman should come to PC but at least 3 years later. That way more money can be made off the game but that reason to own a PlayStation console is still well justified.
@Nintyfan You are WRONG - it doesn't matter and you prove that by what you say. All the Exclusives do is force gamers to buy their hardware and that's why its important to the likes of Sony, MS etc. Its a 'failsafe' for them that even if their hardware isn't competitive, people will still be forced to buy their hardware to play the games only it offers and if NO exclusives existed, only the strongest would survive.
That's why it matters to Sony, MS etc. The gamers will go where the games they want to play are and if that happens to be on one unified platform, they would all go there. It has absolutely NO impact on them whether or not a game is 'exclusive' and only matters if they have the right platform to play the games they want. It doesn't matter if the rest of the gaming world get to play that same game or not and the only reason games are exclusive are to force gamers to buy their hardware.
Without exclusives, gamers would be free to choose the platform that they want for what ever reason - be it controller preference, game performance or the name on the box. As long as they still get to play the games they want, it doesn't matter and certainly doesn't matter that others also get to enjoy them...
Going to PC doesn't matter and it never really has but it could matter if it goes to Xbox. End of the day the reason we get games like God of War, Spider-Man, Days Gone, Horizon, The Last of Us Part 2 and so on is because Sony want you buying the PS4, those games are free of the usual "AAA" rubbish because Sony their games to look appealing as possible and want that "good guy" image, those games wouldn't exist at least as they are if they weren't exclusives. So yeah it would be worrying if exclusives started becoming a rare thing as they push consoles makes to actually put the work and money in to make games what sell consoles, a massive reason i'm going to PS5 next gen is because i want to play Spider-Man 2, God of War 2, Horizon 2 and so on and like many i go where the games are as this Gen has proved if you want the best games then owning a PS4 and Switch is the ideal move.
Will we be getting an early review for Death Stranding?
short answer nope, long answer nope
As I dont have a gaming quality PC I play games on PS4, where games look good enough for me for the moment. It doesnt bother me that there is a PC version and people can enjoy games there, as long as Sony keep producing high quality single player games and a console where I can play them.
@Hollywooda because it thinks that the PS5 will be defeated* and that Xbox Vs PS is almost Mortal Kombat
Why should games be exclusive in the first place? What if you could play some music only on certain systems, that would be weird...if i could play Uncharted on xbox, would that be unprofitable for Sony? I'd still be a PlayStation owner. In economics there is a rule that the profit of one isn't the loss of the other. Two parties can benefit at the same time.
@snakemake The difference is Sony does not stay at with one IP forever. Thats why i own a Playstation its not like the dont have any exclusive games.
@Pete_Stooge Simple its a way too sell your platform i never understood why its so hard too understand.
if Sony does not own the studio I think we should just expect this now as long as Sony keeps their game Sony only I do not care I will still play it on PS4.
@Flaming_Kaiser Some people here in the comments above would love for them not having any anymore. And well, timed exclusivity won't build your brand awareness as people will learn to wait and not invest into your ecosystem, which is the main stream of revenue for platform holder.
I'm not bothered by this. Lack of exclusivity means more people get to enjoy it.
@Knuckles-Fajita Well it’s definitely not a shock to me, I just said I find it a bit surprising.
I didn’t mean logistically I was surprised that a game running off the Decima engine could be able to be ported to PC. I’m aware the PS4 is based off of PC architecure.
Rather, I found it a bit surprising that a game running off the Decima engine was allowed to be ported to PC. But it makes much more sense that it is a totally different publisher being used for the PC version.
@Flaming_Kaiser that's the common thought, but i think the revenues of, let's say Nintendo, will increase enormously if they gave up their exclusivity and started as a third party studio (as they did for mobilephones). In the end it's the IP that generates money not the exclusivity, because it limits the salespotential ...but anyway, i could be wrong.
@Pete_Stooge For Nintendo it's their own IPs that create like 85% of revenue, while for Microsoft and Sony it's the other way around, because they mostly profit of third party sales margins. They need to convince people to come to their platform with exclusives, because they are basically living from someone else's works and those third party sales can easly move elsewhere.
@nessisonett Indeed if Valve would care they would do more effort. 😉
If you'd had teenage me, the one that was a console war fan boy, I'd die on the hill that exclusives stay exclusive forever and ever and that's the bottom line cause Stone Cold said so.
Now that I'm in my 30s, have a better understanding of how video game sales and businesses work, I'd be all for DS making it's way to PC after a long delay.
I think about how Destiny kept getting exclusive content for a year before it was released for Xbox; Sony probably paid Bundie a chunk of money and said 'make this, that, and the other thing a timed exclusive' and Bungie agreed to it. Sony has an exclusive, and Bungie makes money, and Xbox has to wait it out - that's a business decision.
@SaikoWaifu2003 One that Lasted 7 years and still going?... it is one hell of a deal. And "early access" is a few days not more than half a year 🙄
Also, not sure what PC you playing on. But just my graphics card cost me 3X more than what a PS4 Pro cost today. A $369 gaming PC would be garbage.
Hell, if you do not care about keeping games... GameFly or Selling games back to Amazon for credit makes it even more affordable. AND no need to wait.
@SaikoWaifu2003 As expected you are a PC fangirl lol. Wow never seen any fangirl before except for Nintendo. Yeah don't reply to me anymore.
@SaikoWaifu2003 It all makes sense rofl. Yet PS4 exclusives make PC look like trash. No wonder PC fanpeople are always port begging. Can't even go on Twitch without some bummy PC person begging. Yuck.
@SaikoWaifu2003 And others just work on a laptop and bought a PS4 7, 6, 5 years ago and still getting a "bang for their buck" by still playing top 3rd party games on Day 1.
Again, what you get when you buy into PS4. And by the time this is out on PC, the PS4 retail copies will be cheaper than the Digital PC version on Day 1.
@SaikoWaifu2003 You do know that I'm not that JayDub "kratos" on twitter right?
Plenty of companies spread their games out across multiple systems and deliver great, sometimes even Game of the Year worthy content. Not arguing that exclusives shouldn't exist, they have to because console makers need to sell their product and that's why first party studios and second party deals exist.
Also, Ubisoft is a bad example to use for why multiplats don't work. Not a perfect company but it has delivered plenty of great games over the years, even in recent ones.
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