Activision knows what it's doing. The first trailer for Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare didn't exactly leave us performing somersaults, with the confirmation of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered proving more exciting. Alas, the publisher has announced that the spruced up PlayStation 3 game will not be available separately on the PlayStation 4 – you'll need to purchase the Legacy Edition of Infinity Ward's all-new FPS to get it, which has a premium price tag.
The news comes courtesy of a nonchalant entry on its FAQ page, stating: "You must own Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare in order to get Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered." Now, there's every chance that the publisher will change its mind a little later down the line, but it seems that for now, it's using Captain Price and crew to flog copies of its latest game. We're not entirely sure how we feel about this – it must be a confidence killer inside Infinity Ward, though.
I'm not even upset. Just take my money. I absolutely adore COD4. It's one of the greatest games of all time. The multiplayer is absolute perfection. I'm so excited to be able to play it again as the PS3 version has been ruined by hackers.
the remaster i might have brought because MW4 was actually pretty fun but no way in hell am i buying the drivel they put out now-a-days
"that for now, it's using Captain Price and crew to flog copies of its latest game"
sounds about right, Activision knows the series is in decline so they try to entice us with a remaster of one of the GOOD CoD games
That's certainly one way to ensure your game sells well
Just screams confidence.
I would have bought the CoD:IW 'Steelbook' variant regardless of whether or not it comes with the remaster of CoD4. I can't say I am completely sold on IW's campaign yet but it seems interesting and probably more cohesive than BO3's campaign. Ghosts campaign was good.
I am not sure how I feel about Infinity Ward doing 'Zombies'. I do think Treyarch's Zombies are by far the best co-op mode in Call of Duty but I still enjoyed Extinction - more so than Sledgehammers take on Zombies.
I don't know about IW's MP yet but the setting opens up a lot more potential for maps. More unique looking maps and I hope we see more 'dynamic' elements than Ghosts offered.
Now that I have discussed the main game, I am a little surprised that Activision are going this route. I can certainly see them relenting after a good few months and selling this separately but I can understand why they may not want to sell it initially. Much as I loved both the campaign and the MP, I do think that it will not live up to the memory or have as much as an impact anymore. Things we were shocked and stunned by in the campaign are no common place, the MP was new and fresh but would now not be acceptable in the modern games. At the time it had nothing to compare too, now it has lots of clones let alone 8 new games in the franchise. Granted modern games may have moved more futuristic in their settings but MW was set 5 or so years into the future from its 2007 release. It was 'good' because it was 'innovative' in its day - in a world of WW2 shooters, we had 'Modern Warfare' - we had RPG type levelling, we had 'killstreaks' for the first time. Its things that it did 'wrong' though that has shaped its sequels and the things it did right have been built upon to give us more choice and freedom.
I know 3 of the maps have been confirmed but I know I am going to be 'disappointed' that some maps won't be included. I can make a case for many of the maps - certainly more than 10. A lot of them have been iconic too. I would love to see 'Creek' get a HD remaster but as that was a DLC map, I don't know if it will. You would think that Vacant, Bog, Overgrown, Ambush, Bloc, Downpour, Wet Work, Pipeline, Strike, Showdown and even Shipment have great memories for the CoD community so some people are going to be disappointed their favourites didn't make it. My biggest fear is that people will revert back to 'old' habits, camping in certain areas (on the roof by the Helicopter in Crash for example with Claymores x2) and no scoping with Steady Aim or quick scoping with the 'aim-assist'.
The thing a MP game relies upon is a populated community so I think it makes sense to sell this at some point. I can see myself playing this 'casually' but I do think I will play a lot more of the new CoD - at least in the first year...
The faq says "own", not "purchase together", so it's possible they'll sell it to people who buy the new one digitally later on.
So no, I don't believe it. At launch, yes, but 6 months or a year later it will show up. Though it is highly likely it never gets its own disc release.
No sale. Next.
Everything about this is terrible. So for those of us who would love Modern Warfare but not the new title we have to pay £80? Sad panda
Does anyone else think that this is showing a lack of confidence in the main game? The release of a new COD is almost totally overshadowed by the remaster of an old game.
I am not judging but gotta be tough on the devs to have put all that effort into a new game and having the hype hijacked.
I'm confident they will release it down the line as a standalone DLC.
I don't see it as a huge deal that they are looking to restrict it to the die hard fans at launch, though. I guess it would suck for them if they released it as a stand alone and they ended up having more people playing MWF1 online than IF haha.
Boo hiss boo!... grumble
It'll be included with IW as a download code which will end up on eBay so in a way you could be able to buy the game on its own.
I think, with people being more hyped for a remaster of a game that's about 10 years old more than they are for the new one shows how much COD has falling in the past few years.
@Rudy_Manchego NO i think your right, if they had any confidence in the new game they wouldn't be using MW4 Remaster as a extra bonus, it would be available separately
@Rudy_Manchego I don't see it as a lack of confidence. You have to be confident to put an old classic remastered alongside a new game. If they were 'that' unconfident, thy wouldn't have included MP and probably remastered the whole MW trilogy campaigns. If they were worried the CoD:IW MP wouldn't hold up or more people would end up playing MW then why include it? Does including Fallout 3, Rainbow six Vegas 1&2, Original Doom BC games on XB1 show a lack of confidence those games would 'suck'?
People are obviously going to be 'hyped' about something they 'know'. If you look at the sales of CoD, ALL the last few games have sold more than CoD4 did. Even Ghosts which people seem to want to criticise sold more and stayed around in the 'top 10' sellers for its year.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/321374/global-all-time-unit-sales-call-of-duty-games/ As you can see from this, since CoD4, only [email protected] sold less and all others have managed over 20m in sales!
Well I suppose it's one way to sell the game nobody wants.
I think we all saw this coming a mile away. What I do wonder is will access to the remaster require the infinite warfare disc? Because if not I will bemail buying a remaster code via eBay. Though it wouldn't be Activision like to allow this, so I fully expect mw4 4emastered to be menu item in infinite warfare. So far though the amount of people who are going to buy the $80 edition just for cod 4 that I have seen on various gaming boards is quite alarming. I know I just want cod4, and was willing to spend 60 on it with a game I have no intention of playing barring a co op campaign night with a friend or 2 for trophies but at 80? No thanks. Mw2 a few years down the road if they handle the remaster right might be a different story.
It's not a lack of confidence, but it's obvious the popularity of COD has peaked some time ago, and Activision know this. Nothing wrong with them trying to capitalise on nostalgia to bring some of the old players back into the fold.
It's a bit like releasing FF7 HD on the store straight after a FF7 Remake reveal
This speaks of lack of confidence in there new COD otherwise the remaster would be sold separately, they know full well MW sold very well & people wanted a remaster on the PS4.
@BAMozzy @FullbringIchigo I mean, don't get me wrong, I think this will sell bucketloads based on brand recognition and I doubt it will be a flop in any way.
I just wonder, given fan reaction, is whether they would have made more revenue selling it as a seperate stand alone release then as a day 1 add on to an existing game - even with the inflated price. Given that a solid COD franchise entry is more than likely to sell (and maybe review) well, why sell as an add on?
If they want the newb to sell well and have a long life, then I would have thought it makes more sense to promote that independently and release COD4 during a 'quiet' period when they have no releases out. I could be wrong but all the press has been about the COD4 re-release rather than a major AAA release.
I am sure they will sell seperately at some point but it will be some time after the initial release.
@Rudy_Manchego i think Activision would make more money if they release it separately a few months BEFORE the release of Infinite Warfare then it would be like a HUGE advertisement for it and more people might buy the new one because they were "high" on CoD nostalgia
uh I dunno I don't really care about space cod, guess its a wait and see scenario
@FullbringIchigo Yeah - I think the strategy worked well for Uncharted in the build up to UC4 (worked on me!). COD4 is at that place where it is hitting nostalgia level. If you threw in some sort of promotion for Infinite Warfare in the purchase, maybe exclusive content or freebies, people would lead into it.
Right now, all you have is a bunch of people who are going to compare a new game to a nostalgia classic.
Yeah.... Think I'll pass now. Battlefield 5 will be out this year anyway, and I know which shooter I would rather waste time on.
I guess I pass then.
@Rudy_Manchego Personally I think its not over-inflated as far as the 'price-point' is concerned. We are effectively getting 2 games for £80 (although Zavvi have it for £70). I know we aren't getting the 'full' CoD4 experience with only half the maps but its not exactly 'over-priced' considering some remasters. Considering the game will no doubt be around £50-60 RRP - certainly if you want to buy it digitally.
I do think they should have remastered the whole CoD4 and sold it as a stand alone in May/June although that's usually around the time we start getting information about the next CoD.
I do think its 'funny' that a game that sells in excess of 20m is considered a flop. Since 2007 only 2 games have sold less than 20m and that was CoD4 and [email protected] People keep going on at the fact CoD 'needs' to go back to WW2 but not one of CoD's WW2 shooters has managed more than 15m.
Whilst its clear there is a 'vocal' group on the internet, the 'sales' tell a very different story. 20m sales of any game though has to be considered 'successful'.
@BAMozzy Yeah but the fact you're basically being forced to pay the extra just to get a remastered game is kinda ridiculous. This is why I despise Activision. They know damn well what people want, but they'd prefer money over customer. Also, lack of confidence shows that IW is gonna be a flop, just like AW and Ghosts.
I'd probably be willing to part with $20 for Modern Warfare Remastered as an independent download, as the game was actually kind of fun, but I've had no real desire to play any of the post MWF CoD games, and I'm not starting now.
@FullbringIchigo I agree with both you guys, infinity ward games just feel super weak lately. MW3 was the last strong game IMO. I might get MW on eBay or something.
I will wait anyway If it comes out on it's own then I will get it Nice try Activi$ion but you won't force me to buy the over priced version just for MW1.
Pity, I may have to buy the old game for £5 instead and buzz off that for a couple of days.
I think I'll just buy a physical copy keep the code for the remaster and return, sell, or trade the game... I wonder how many used copies of this will flood the used market? Hopefully there are enough crafty consumers out there that this blows up in their face.
Fine, miff me off now Activision. I will buy it for MW4 but this will be my last COD. It would have been last year's AW but your baiting me with my favorite shooter ever.
My wallet will remember this treason.
@Constable_What How will it blow up in their face? You are buying the game, they get the money for it. If you sell it or trade it in the money doesn't come from them. And stores will not let you return a game that has been opened.
@Tasuki Some stores will let you return things like that. Selling things to be resold used on eBay ect cuts into profits. I, personally, just sell on eBay or Craigslist for 40 or 50 dollars. I get my money more or less back and some guy gets it cheaper.
Granted it probably won't blow up in their faces. I just HOPE it does. Apologies if my comment wasn't clear.
gonna wait for the Hardcopy version.
@Constable_What No apologies needed man, I was just curious. I am not sure where you are from but every store that sells video games around me won't let you return a video game if it's been opened already. That usually goes for any kind of electronic device though and media.
@Tasuki Little known fact: FTC guidelines state if an item is sealed it must be returned in accordance with store policy. Free items given as an incentive for purchase do not need to be returned (from a legal standpoint, anyway. Store policy, while different from the law, can say otherwise.).
trash. skip nexttttt
@Constable_What MW remastered is not being given away 'free' as an incentive. You are 'buying' it as part of a package - hence the price differential between the Legacy and Standard editions. To access the MW game, you have to break the seal and use the digital download code that will be supplied inside the case.
If you then wish to return it, you can't! By law, you also have to return ALL the items that were sold and in 'new' condition. You can obviously return the Infinite Warfare Disc but are unable to return Modern Warfare.
@BAMozzy Who said anything about breaking the seal?
@Constable_What In your post (#32), you said you would buy the game, keep the code and return the Infinite Warfare part. To access the download code, you have to break the seal. The Modern Warfare code is going to be inside the casing - most likely printed on a leaflet - but the ONLY way to access that is to break the seal and open the case.
If you want to return the game, with seal intact, then you will be returning an unused CoD4 code too.
There is no way you can 'return' the game and keep CoD4 as you state in your post (#32)
@BAMozzy Sure there is. I'll just leave it at that. There is a way though.
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