Welcome to the latest generation of games consoles – where co-marketing deals have taken the place of the third-party exclusives that don't exist anymore. When you stop and think about it, it's pretty moronic that platform holders are fighting over the rights to advertise games, but this is big business at the moment – just look at how Destiny catapulted PlayStation 4 sales last year.
And it's why it felt significant when that debut Star Wars: Battlefront trailer opened and closed with familiar Sony idents. But it may not be the only big third-party release that the Japanese giant will be teaming up with this holiday, as there's growing speculation that the organisation has signed a deal with Call of Duty: Black Ops III – the Treyarch developed first-person shooter due out this Christmas.
But wait a minute: we've all heard this one before. The exact same rumour cropped up for Call of Duty: Ghosts and Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, and the source seems no less secure this time; it all appears to stem from a single NeoGAF post, from a user who seems to have some kind of track record for predicting these things – but could merely have good intuition.
We wouldn't buy into it too much just yet, then – but it's interesting to speculate about the possibility. Microsoft has partnered with Activision on the property for a while now, and it very much feels like the franchise is part of the Xbox woodwork. Would switching co-marketing allegiances really change all of that? It seems unlikely from where we're sitting.
However, some are suggesting that the publisher may be disgruntled: PS4 has an install base twice as large as the Xbox One, so it seems strange for maps to launch later on the former format. Sony's been really good at partnering with new brands all generation so far, though – Destiny, Watch Dogs, etc – and that's enabled it to pretend that these are exclusive products, even though they're not.
It won't have anywhere near as much luck with Call of Duty, so it would be a strange title for it to back. At the same time, though, Battlefront and Black Ops III would be a pretty formidable fall lineup for Sony – and Uncharted 4: A Thief's End probably wouldn't be missed if it had bundles for both. Stranger things have happened, we suppose.
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Treyarch are the guys that make the fun cod titles so I'd be into it.
So the rumour is that there is going to be a new COD game this fall? No! Way!
I know, I know, calm yourselves.
As long as there's no Exo suits and the Zombies look good, I'm buying it.
I WILL MISS UNCHARTED 4 THIS CHRISTMAS!!! LOL Atleast I can play Rise of the Tomb Raider, which will take the edge off. Im expecting that to be a top game. As far as Call of Duty goes, I couldn't care less!
Actually, I think it would be a better move for Activision to do Black Ops III advertising on the PS4 right now, bigger install base, more people to get onboard for COD:Black Ops III, more potential sales for them.
"It won't have anywhere near as much luck with Call of Duty"
COD advanced warfare on the PS4 is outselling the XboxOne version. So, this statement is moot.
@kasif19 Advanced warfare has been selling better on Xbox. March was the first month it has ever sold better on ps4 according to npd.
We can pretend it won't be missed but the fact is Uncharted 4 not being there hurts the holiday lineup and a CoD co-marketing deal doesn't make up for it. Frankly, nothing short of God of War 4 (not happening) can make up for it.
@Gamer83
I actually do believe a co-marketing agreement could make a difference. As it stands now Xbox will most likely have a fall line- up with: Halo, Forza and Tomb Raider, where Sony will have some less attractive games for the masses. If you then look at the games Xbox has in their portfolio which they are marketing, I almost get scared: FIFA, madden, AC and CoD, that are some huge games!
Without a "Destiny" to rely on this year it would feel for your average Joe that MS is pumping out all of these titles, where PS4 will have a game called Persona which nobody cares about (casual consumers that is, people that don't already own a console).
So when you walk into a store and you see this console you know from the commercials which has a few "Pew Pew" games and a nice "Vroom Vroom" game (that's how casuals approach games in my mind ) ánd is cheaper too, the PS4 is a hard sell! But link the PS4 to CoD and lots of people will prefer to buy the PS4 because they heard good things bout it and "it has CoD".
@Drychickenbob VGchartz has COD AW selling more for PS4. http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=call+of+duty%3A+advanced+warfare&publisher=&platform=&genre=&minSales=0&results=200 .
I know the PS4 may have the bigger sales figures etc but I think the main reason that this won't happen is down to things like eSports and the CoD championships - All of which is on Xbox currently.
If this is true (would also, you assume, mean DLC first on PS4/3) it's going to be amusing watching all the hypocritical fanboys praising Sony after calling Microsoft scum for teaming with Activision over the last few years.
@Gamer83 I really don't think an Uncharted-shaped hole is that big, especially if it can be filled by a God Of War title. People go on about Uncharted like its the pinnacle of gaming excellence when it really isn't. It's a solidly performing title that really hasn't set the world alight. Admittedly I'm not from America like yourself and it may be huge there but until I got my PS3 four years ago I had never heard of Uncharted. It's not that big of a miss. Shame for the fans, yes. For the sales? Not so much. A COD-exclusivity deal will sell at least three/four times as much here, would that not be the case of in your end of the world too?
Uncharted was released in 2007 and sold 2.6m copies (by E3 2009). According to Wiki Uncharted 2 (released 2009) has sold 6m copies to date and Uncharted 3 has sold over 6m copies and won numerous awards too. The series has sold 19m to date. Even the Last of Us has only sold 7m copies (on PS3 - 1m on PS4) by Aug 2014. I say 'only' but considering how many PS3's are in peoples homes, its not a high percentage.
Obviously comparing an 'exclusive' only available on a specific device and comparing its sales figures to something like CoD which is available on PC and Consoles is misleading. Games like the Uncharted series though have won many awards and are amongst the biggest selling exclusives on Playstation. Its also one of the highest rated franchises on Metacritic too - its a bigger seller and better rated than games like Killzone and Infamous.
Personally I would prefer to see the end of 3rd Party exclusivity deals as all it does is drive wedges between gamers. If there is to be any form of 'exclusivity' I would prefer to see specific things on all formats. I think one of the 'fighting' games did this with a different exclusive character to both Xbox and PS gamers. I would prefer to see things like CoD release all DLC simultaneously - after all everyone pays the same. I know money talks etc but I do think there should be some restrictions if this is to continue - ALL content should be available on ALL systems and no longer than 1 week of 'timed' exclusivity. Xbox owners for example paid the same for Destiny and yet don't get the same content for a year. Some extra content in games (AC4, Watchdogs) will never be available. PS owners have to wait a month for CoD DLC yet pay the same too. A month in CoD is a very long time considering the perceived life of these games (1 year)
@rastamadeus
CoD is obviously a huge series but it's already so well established I don't think a deal with one of the manufacturers or another really makes a difference. It's going to sell on Xbox One what it's going to sell on Xbox One regardless of whether Sony has the marketing deal or not. If Sony has the deal for Star Wars, then that's a bigger deal, even if the game isn't going to sell as well as Black Ops 3.
As for Uncharted's delay, it isn't good for Sony. I know you don't like the series, which is fine, but it is big here in the States and to reach 6 mil it has to sell decent elsewhere also.
@BAMozzy
I'm with you 100% on the third party deals, but it's also something that has gone on in this industry forever.
@kasif19 You misunderstood what I'm saying. When Sony partnered with Destiny and Watch Dogs, they were new IP, and amazingly, a lot of people actually believed they were exclusive to PS4.
By now, everyone knows that Call of Duty is on Xbox, so it's not going to recreate that same 'confusion'. That's all I was saying. You'd expect Advanced Warfare to sell better on PS4, as it has a bigger install base, etc.
@rastamadeus @gamer83 I'd say Uncharted is a series that's still on the rise, personally. I'd expect U4 to heartily outsell all of the previous entries.
@get2sammyb I understand your point. My bad.
@get2sammyb
Imo, it was one of the series that helped turn the PS3 around. It'll be interesting to see what happens when 4 does release. I'm thinking it'll top the others in sales but Uncharted has never missed the holidays before. If it is actually a spring/summer 2016 release (and I hope it is because I'm sick of waiting) it will be intriguing to see how it effects sales, if it all. The series is established enough that it probably won't make a huge difference but you never know.
@kasif19 I see what happened. I was just looking at u.s. Sales.
This co-marketing COD: Black Ops III is highly unlikely going by Sony's past comments, Sony's more likely to co-market something like The Whitcher3 (which I'm not saying they are).
Considering the fact that every single Call of Duty franchise game has been sponsored and endorsed mostly by Microsoft, I highly doubt they will change it up.
I find it odd whenever people talk as if the only thing Sony ever had lined up for the fall/winter/holiday 2015 season was Uncharted 4. I doubt they only ever had that one game ready to go.
I find it hard to believe that Sony might partner up for Call of Duty this fall, but then, they already did work with Activision for Destiny, and it would make sense for Activision to want to promote CoD on the console with far higher sales. It's a toss-up. Sony already has Batman and Star Wars, apparently.
@Drychickenbob The Xbox 360 and Xbox One versions combined outsold the PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 4 versions combined, but the PlayStation 4 version outsold the Xbox One version.
Halo is all MS need. The best game series ever(they say) Not bought a COD game since COD:MW3(& that was a gift to me) so not to bothered but if SONY promote it then COOL
@banacheck The Witcher 3 is being promoted and bundled with Xbox One. As will be the Division - a Ubisoft game which traditionally have favoured Sony (AC4 and Watchdogs both got extra exclusive content on PS). Just because Activision and Sony teamed up with Destiny doesn't mean they will with CoD too. EA has links with Sony (BF3 released its DLC early and also gave away BF1942 to PS3 owners) and I believe the new Battlefront game too but also with MS too (Fifa Ultimate/Titanfall/EA Access). Insomniac - a traditionally PS developer recently made an exclusive for XB1 and are now making a Ratchet and Clank game for PS4.
All this means is that its on a franchise by franchise basis and even on a game by game basis. The big developers/publishers have links with both MS and Sony.
CoD still sells more on MS with its 360/XB1 and of course Windows based PC's. It also gets a lot of Xbox promotion from things like CoD championships which has helped the growth of eSports too. CoD:AW also is the only multi-platform game that has a official custom XB1 console. I really don't see MS doing something like that if their 'deal' was likely to end with CoD:AW.
Yeah.. 4 days later. I did not entertain this rumor as it is highly unlikely but I do now wonder why MS has not plastered their name all over this game as of yet. Maybe ActiVision is letting this title stay in the middle.?!. Hmmm..
If Sony were to co market this game it would be a coup!!!!!
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