Topic: The TV Show Thread

@RogerRoger It was just a bit... Cool I suppose. The producers ran with (boom boom) the successful dark tone of '89 Bats (thinking about it, I think it was probably the first project after Batman to do so) but also embraced a nice neon aesthetic to go with it.
They took a fair amount of liberties with the source of didn't really use a great deal of comic material. But it was pretty earnest, and that first costume was just incredible.
Shirley Walker's theme was great too. It's basically a lifted reworking of Elfman's Batman theme with a lighter, more triumphant cadence.

@RogerRoger ah! I always thought Walker had done The Flash theme!

Oh yeah, it was very much designed to play on the success of Batman.

@RogerRoger I think it was just the characters that got me through it. Every character and actor who played them was loveable. I'm not sure if I recall the Andromeda galaxy bits, maybe they didn't stick out to me but I always assumed that the Warp 14 stuff was just redefined by the next gen era. Like within canon, they just decided on a smaller scale for warp speeds.

I think it helped that I was a fan of special effects in general and I found it really fascinating to work out how they did or could have done all the effects (probably because it was quite easy). I specifically sought out the non remastered DVDs from eBay at the time, which were the ones that came with the magazine's (I didn't have a blu ray player at the time and the then current release of the DVDs had only the remastered versions though I know you could switch between them on the blu ray.)

I know canon is a bit flimsy and can be with all of it tbh, I do find it amusing when they go to great lengths to retcon reasoning into it even if they don't retcon the blip itself.

I feel like that T4 line up had WWF Heat as part of it too, it was a really dumb show where all the wrestling was censored. It would have the storyline but (at least in its channel 4 showing) all the slams, hits and steel chairs etc wouldn't be shown and the camera would just cut to the crowd. Of course it took me a while to realise this as I tuned in for it every Sunday for a good while!

I think Powerless just got dropped mid season by its US network and they did release an unaired episode after Adam West died. I haven't done any research to see if any networks from other countries managed to pick up and air the whole show but I would be interested to see it, but only if it was in its entirety.

@ralphdibny @RogerRoger i still have my TOS none remastered season sets and they had this real strange clamshell design that was awkward to open and close

one thing that still irks me with TOS releases though is that they REFUSE to put the episodes in the proper order, when the show was originally aired they were aired out of order for various reasons (for example The Man Trap was shown first because the networks wanted a scary episode) and the pilot episode is about episode 3 but they NEVER fix it for DVD and blu-ray, even Netflix is out of order and it's dumb, why they can't at least put Where no man has gone before first i can never understand

@RogerRoger it is odd, lets just say you had no idea about it and was coming in fresh, then for one random episode all of a sudden the uniforms change, no one is wearing Red, the Phasers and communicators are different and Spock even shouts in anger

it's completely jarring

@FullbringIchigo Strangely, I watched ‘The Cage’ first as it was aired on TV first when they did a rerun. This made ‘The Menagerie’ a bit strange when it was then aired in its original two part format considering it uses a lot of footage from it. It’s still a brilliant episode even now though.

@nessisonett yeah it is, not bad for a few episodes done on the cheap to save money by reusing old footage

but still it was a good idea to use the unaired (at that time) pilot to create a story and it meant Gene got what he wanted and got at least the major bits of it shown on TV

@RogerRoger It’s a pretty good episode in its own right to be honest. It tells its own story that’s not really Star Trek as you know it but I’d recommend it as long as you haven’t seen ‘The Menagerie’ recently, to avoid confusion and repetition.

@RogerRoger I think I'm the same way, I notice the continuity error, pause the programme so I can voice my intricate knowledge of a silly TV show out loud and then resume watching. Sometimes I'll try and work out how it could be possible for it to fit. The Black Lightning tie in to Crisis on Infinite Earths had a pretty glaring continuity error but oh well, I still enjoyed the crossover!

I'm not so bothered about the cliffhanger endings not being followed up on because they can be frustratingly exciting to just imagine what happens next like in the case of Spiderman Unlimited. But if I know the rest of the show exists and I'm just not able to watch it then I'll just get fomo so it's not worth it for me.

@FullbringIchigo I remember that clamshell in the shops. I think the (magazine) DVDs have the episodes in the right order though. Been a while since I've checked but I am sure the two pilots precede the series at the very least.

The matching spines look great lined up too. For some reason I bought a similar set for next gen from ebay instead of just a collection from a shop. Probably because it was cheaper and had the added value of the magazines. The picture on the matching spines is ridiculously long though because of it. It doesn't fit on any normal human being's single shelf!

@RogerRoger I had to look that up because I thought you were talking about crewman Daniels who was one of my favourite non main characters. I never gave much thought to the actual future guy really I don't think. Just thought he was some random interloper from the future.

You have just reminded me of an idea I had for a new trek series before the Chris pine film came out. It was called Time Trek and starred Crewman Daniels who was probably like the captain of the Enterprise J that they showed briefly. It might've featured episodes that visited other Trek eras or even interacted with other time travel episodes of previous Trek where they would sort of visit to scope out the anomaly.

With science fiction and superhero stuff there are rules which are normally set out. I know certain programs just break and chuck in new rules to suit the narrative but often the suspension of disbelief has to be stretched to accomodate this. One of my favourite sci fi franchises is planet of the apes. My favourites are Escape from (the star trek IV of PotA), Conquest of and Rise of (which is basically a remake of conquest). But one of the key bits of canon established in, I think, Conquest or Battle, is that domestic pets like cats and dogs died of a virus which is the reason they began to domesticate apes as pets before realising they could have more functions around the house because of their intelligence. Then I watched the TV series and I think the first episode had a dog running through an ape village. I was so hung up on continuity that I stopped watching it lol. I regret not watching it to this day, but now I am less hung up on things like that, I hope to revisit it one day so I can appreciate it for what it is.

Another one I'd really like on DVD (for the shelf) is the animated series which I think was called Return to the PotA but I don't think it was ever released in the UK and good luck finding a new, preferably HDMI, DVD player these days that advertises whether it's region free or not (some just are by accident).

@RogerRoger I didn't know all this about the behind the scenes of enterprise! Not sure if I felt like it was cut short at the time. Brilliant show though, I just loved all the characters in it, like all of them.

Yeah I think when X men origins Wolverine came out was the first time I just thought hmm in terms of the poor adaptation of the source material. Which similarly to continuity errors, just happened so frequently that within a few years, with the constant reboots and retcons that I just became nonplussed about it. I started enjoying films and TV for what they were and not what I expected them to be.

I think back then, ones only thought is that this is the only chance for film to get this character or story right. But as the Spiderman and even the X men franchise has proved, that is far from true.

I still haven't finished discovery S2 or started Picard, which is why I'm hesitant to move this over to the star trek thread, in case of spoilers! It's not because I didn't like discovery, I actually love it. It's because I was watching it with my mother and brother and the chances of getting us all in the same house at the same time without the dogs barking just made the schedule untenable. I've actually been thinking of watching it without them and not telling them lol. Haven't seen all of the latest season of agents of shield for the same reason.

I didn't think about ps3. Most blu rays are region free, the games were too I think, not sure about DVDs though hmmm.

@ralphdibny @RogerRoger the PS3 drive is region locked but the games are region free as are some blu-ray releases, it depends on publishers

As for the Trek thread yes there are spoilers over there, we try to make sure they are tagged but unfortunately some do make it through the cracks

@FullbringIchigo cheers, nice to know!

I'll probably waltz over there and have a gander when I get round to watching the latest episodes.

@RogerRoger I'll keep an eye out for it next time I get through it, which is probably Gona be a few years away anyway.

Currently we are rewatching X files and have been for the last few years (in the TV season downtime) but this time I'm inserting Millennium into the viewing order as I've never watched all of that before . obviously the lone gunmen too when we get that far as that is a brilliant spin off.

It's weird because Deadpool was my favourite marvel character before X men origins and I basically couldn't really get over Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool in any form. He was pretty pony in blade 3 and the green lantern too. I didn't rate the first actual Deadpool film but Deadpool 2 was a lot better and funnier all round, probably because he has a comic foil in Cable.

I highly doubt I'll get to watch those shows with my family! It's too stressful an environment to enjoy anything. They're er...talkers. whereas I'm a pauser and talker and possible rewinder if I miss anything lol

@RogerRoger I'm the same with not talking much during films. My mum has a habit of trying to second guess everything and then announcing her theory to the whole room. My dad will ask a stream of questions of who the actors are and what films they have been in. My sister's boyfriend fancies himself as bit of a philosopher and asks deep and meaningful questions about everything. Shut the f up and watch the effin film.

@JohnnyShoulder @RogerRoger and this is why i watch films alone now

In my purpose made cinema room

On my projector

With my surround sound headphones

Bliss

@RogerRoger I feel like X-Files is one of those 'you had to be there' sort of things.

I enjoyed it immensely in my youth, but I feel like it wouldn't have aged all that well.

I even had and rather enjoyed the PS1 fmv game. It felt incredible to play through at the time. I think I saw the film with my best mate at the time and we both bought the game soon after.

@ralphdibny did you ever play the PS1 game?

@RogerRoger @FullbringIchigo Yeah I think a lot of it has to do that I mainly watch stuff on my own. My parents used to have a budgie which i found intolerable when watching stuff. So they kindly would move it into another room when I was there!

People trying to second guess what's going to happen can irritate me when watching things. As I don't tend to work out plot twists until the reveal (unless it's super duper predictable), it can spoil things for me when someone else says something that they think is obvious.

The Office: Coronavirus

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Also, finished watching Kingdom Season 2 on Netflix. It's definitely one my favourite Netflix Originals. Godless (S1), Stranger Things (S1+3), Narcos (S1+2) and Daredevil (S1+3) are some of the others that I really like.