Topic: The Chit Chat Thread

@themcnoisy I mostly stay away from the comment sections these days. I only look at the reports, but there are quite a lot of mods on NLife; so it's not a labourous thing or anything like that. It's mostly deleting spam and banning spam accounts.

@Octane I hereby apologise for causing several (mostly accidental I swear) intense comment wars on NLife. It must be hard to be a mod on there, it’s definitely a lot more heated on there.

Where do all the crazy people come from? I'm excited about the PS5 as much as anyone but a lot of the comments in that article were just awful. We all come here because we love gaming, I know this is a PlayStation site but regardless of which system you play on and what your background is, our passion for gaming should unite us not divide us.

Hope your all staying safe during these awful times wherever your from!

@Octane I just saw that NLife article’s comments. Good on you for trying to maintain a modicum of control because that got out of hand very quickly. It’s shocking what some people think is acceptable because they’re on the internet, I just don’t see any of those people saying ‘blacks commit more crime’ to your average Joe on the street.

People trolling and saying awful things in the comments under an article talking about a sociopolitical controversy?

Well I never!

@themcnoisy I notice a lot of anti-Nintendo/Xbox comments here as well. Crazy fanboys are everywhere.

@Ralizah The anti-Xbox stuff totally ramped up in the last few months, it’s probably due to PS5 vs XSeX. I liken it to the local football derby where I’m from, the dirtiest, grudge-filled, historic nonsense. My team has won 9 titles in a row, due to the other team collapsing financially and so we’ve been riding high for years now, taking wins for granted. However, since the other team is now fully back and looking good, the hate and violence has absolutely intensified. The more XSeX looks like it could be proper competition, the worse fans will act. They’ve taken their dominance over Xbox for granted this whole generation and it’s become a running joke.

@Ralizah So crazy as we all know Playstation is the best rofl.

Whilst your here bro looked up an awesome essay today I think you would be interested in;

https://jods.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/jyzg7j6x/release/2

The effects of participatory Propaganda. Its a great read. Focused more so on propaganda as a tool in escalating conflict, however its a great take on why there is a lot of division online. More so we inhale Propaganda at home in our own personal space. Also the points in relation to defriending your contacts is poignant and striking. Give it a read its a great paper. I think @mookysam you should give it a browse to mate, seems like something up your alley.

@themcnoisy Very interesting. I'll give it a read soon.

@nessisonett Yeah, I asked for it to be closed down, and I'm glad that it now is. I kinda expected to be ignored, but I'm pleasantly surprised!

@Octane So why put up an article just to disable the comments. Kinda doesn't make sense to me.

The internet is a weird place sometimes - honestly the best and worse of people seems to come out. Solidarity, friendship, community - all good things. Then there is the hate and fear spilling over. As Ghandi or someone clever probably said 'Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering'.

One thing I do find weird and never understand is the call for politics to be left out of gaming when I feel those same people are the ones that get angry at anything they perceive to a political issue. Take for example Sony, you can be cynical if you want and say it is only PR etc. (which i don't agree with btw) but even if that is true, that is a business decision that Sony has made for the good of their product and launch which is just business life. Still, the world doesn' make sense to me at the moment.

@themcnoisy
Does make for an interesting read. Does hit a bit of a nerve for me. Seeing or hearing people constantly spread propaganda running down political parties can become tiresome quite quickly but it helps that I don't have any love for any of these parties. Tends to happen much closer to elections of course.

It's when the propaganda starts to become discriminatory in its nature that I have a real problem with it. I had to end a couple of friendships due to people spreading some really nasty stuff and refusing to accept how awful it was to spread this sort of content. It's a really hard thing to end a friendship but we all have that line.

@Rudy_Manchego It is far easier to take the cynical view of what is going on, especially when it effects something that you're looking forward to, rather than look at the bigger picture. Sony have studios in America who may be directly or have family that have been affected by the events. But of course some do not even think of this. I mean a few gaming events have been postponed. Is that really such a massive thing for people to start throwing accusations around and getting so angry? Some people really do need to have a big reality check before they comment.

@LN78 Well you say that but what happens if your fear of mushroom soup led to hate that led you to systematically persecuting mushroom soup eaters? Slippery slope... you'll probably end up on a volcano with your arms and legs chopped off and having to live in a black helmet. probably.

@JohnnyShoulder Agreed - I mean the thing is, this is a momentous event that is rocking societies globally and obviously in the US. If you view any decision like Sony's through that prism, it makes it completely understandable. I am disappointed too but hey, it is video games. The PS5 will be announced at some point and it will be released. I'll cope.

@KratosMD The YouTube comment you are referring to could be any number of things.

A fake account?
Someone who legitimately doesn't face the same social problems the BLM movement is against?
His life could already be really good?

It's also a YouTube comment - the worst comments of all time slightly worse than the Daily Mail or BBC comments sections.

You shouldn't view these comments with much value, the overwhelming majority of black African Americans do support BLM.

I remember when the British National Party (far right known racists) were crowing they had a Muslim supporter as an example. Just because one lunatic does or says something doesn't mean its a widely held belief.

@LieutenantFatman Ah ha, that is were we differ LF. I never hit ignore and never unfriend for political viewpoints. That's what the political parties want you to do.

I have a ton of friends who are active Brexit supporters and used to post Propaganda. The stuff about straight bananas and letting immigrants in etc. I would research it properly and give them the unblemished truth about the law or rule and why it was implemented. If anything its more important that you are willing to research and call out the posts eligibility. They are on my friends list as they are good people, but as the paper illustrates its easy to fall into a Propaganda trap, isolation is the ultimate aim.

@KratosMD No Kratos, you have taken my post too personally there.

Just because someone is the same colour doesn't necessarily mean they share the same experience. For instance a black bloke in downtown New York isn't going to have the same experience as a black bloke living in the middle class suburbs. I'm playing devils advocate here but he may not feel that way and maybe never felt bullied, felt racism or faced intimidated in his own area. Again I don't know, I haven't seen the comment nor want to as its not worth your or my time, as its not the general consensus around the issue. Especially the thousands of black African Americans who are speaking out about injustice and the heavy handed police brutality which has been filmed for all to see.

@themcnoisy
It does get to a point though where it's less political viewpoint and more racism than anything else for some people. A lot of people seem to happily confuse the two.
You're right though, isolation is a bad place to be and burning bridges doesn't achieve anything positive.
But yeah, I tend to ignore the brexit stuff, I am glad that most have stopped beating that drum though, was getting a bit much.

@LieutenantFatman anyway mate, if you fancy joining a crew we will be playing BF2 next week if you are up for it! @Th3solution and @RogerRoger are setting it up so could be a laugh having 4 of us involved.

@JohnnyShoulder quick question bro, did you get Pes 20 this year? I picked it up this week and need the co-op Trophies again if you have the game.