Topic: Final fantasy discussion thread

@ApostateMage That has always been my issue with contextual movement changes like forced walking. It breaks the relationship between the player and the character. Suddenly, I'm not controlling Cloud so much as I'm offering suggestions to him. And FF7R gets pretty crazy with it. Like, you'll enter one building and there'll be forced walking. Go outside and you're fine. Back and forth. It sucks.

@ApostateMage @Ralizah yeah but as mentioned before it's there to hide asset loading so the world seems bigger and more seamless, i get that people don't like it and yes even i find it annoying at times but i would rather have sections where the character slows down or squeezes through a gap over a thousand and one load screens

hey you know those Inside FFVII Remake videos Square did well they must have been popular because they did one on FFVIII Remastered if anyone wants to take a look

@FullbringIchigo I'm not entirely sure about that. There are times you slow down when you've entered a small building that already appears to be fully loaded, so I don't entirely buy that every instance of forced walking is for that reason. I think that's probably the reason for the frequent segments where you squeeze through gaps, but making Cloud slow to a crawl at certain points seems more like a deliberate design choice.

I forget to mention it, but the load times in this game are AWFUL if you try to reload a minigame (as I did frequently when going for that minigame trophies). They're launch Bloodborne-levels of long.

@Ralizah i wouldn't know about that because i never quit the mini games, even if i was losing i would carry on because it gave me extra practise to get my timing right

@Ralizah Oh yeah, I restarted the squats once and it was dreadful. Maybe not quite Lego City Undercover on Wii U kinda long, but pretty terrible for a game without much in the way of open space.

@Ralizah @nessisonett NOTHING will ever be unpatched XCOM2 slow though.

I remember going off to boil the kettle and make a cup of (well brewed) tea and the game still hadn't loaded.

As for the actual game here, I've just done the VR combat simulator section. I only have the one intel task left but getting revive levelled up is a nightmare; still over 1000AP to go and it's been on AP Plus ever since I got the latter.

I guess that's one that has to wait until the second run through.

@Thrillho nah just keep doing fights, either in the colosseum or Shinra Battle simulator (the one in the HQ not the one Chadley uses) and it will soon level up

@Thrillho Chapter 14 Colosseum Three-Person Team vs Shinra Warriors on Classic. Spam Firaga. You will farm in no time. Revive MAX is needed in all party members in hard.

Each run takes about 1 minute and 8 seconds and award you 3670 EXP and 123 AP. So, if you repeat the run five times, including loading, it will take you 10 minutes and give you 18350 EXP and 615 AP. Each run costs 300 Gil, but you earn Gil if you beat it so you never run out of money.

Not found the loading screens when quitting the mini games that bad, but I do have a hybrid internal drive in my ps4 which does decrease loading times. The ones in Fallout 4 were quite bad on a normal PS4.

The game has made it painfully clear that entering the Shinra building, like in the original, is the point of no return, so I finished up the remaining side-quests and am now in the process of grinding Colosseum challenges to level up Materia and become proficient in my various weapon skills. I've been using the AP up materia, connected via linked slots to something I want to power level, but it doesn't seem to gain points any faster than my other materia.

@FullbringIchigo The Pro level challenges offered very little room for mistake, so when I messed up early on I kept restarting to save time. The sad thing is that the load times are so long it might actually be more efficient to just sit the controller down and let the challenge finish as opposed to trying to reload it.

@JohnnyShoulder Honestly, I initially hoped S-E would go cross-gen for the sequels to this, but now I just want them to go full next-gen. It'd be worth it to remove the weird level design where you constantly have to squeeze between things to access new areas.

Honest question for those who played chapter 9 multiple times, it's not really a spoiler but I don't want to ruin any little surprise this game has to offer:

35 hours into this, just started chapter 14. I've got all the missable trophies so far, even that godforsaken Pull Up trophy. Kinda looking forward to playing this on Hard mode when I'm done for the trophy just because the story won't be interrupted with spending 45+ mins on stupid mini games.

Biggest tip I can give anyone is spend time in the Colleseum leveling up. I didn't leave the Colleseum in c14 until I was L40+ on all characters and had mastered most materia. The battles are so easy that you can just equip whatever weapon/armour has the most materia slots to aid levelling up. And it helps you build Gil as well because 1/3 fights will give you a cash reward.

I'd recommend playing this section on the PS4 remote play app on your phone as well (or even better, Vita is you have one). That way you can do other stuff (watch Netflix) whilst just spamming this area subconsciously.
I fully expect to have all characters on L50 by the end of the game.

Anyway, great game. And I'm pretty sure this will end up being only my fifth ever Plat trophy.

So i touched upon this in a previous post but what do you think could FFVII Remake really be a sequel as well as a remake, it would give calling the game FINAL FANTASY VII Remake a whole new meaning

https://www.gamespot.com/amp-articles/how-final-fantasy-7-adv...

@Ralizah Yeah I was saying that to my mate (who doesn't have the game) that I wonder what the game would have been like if it a ps5 only game. I've not finished the game yet but i can't get my head round how they are going to do the the rest of game, especially as there is so much content to get through. The Npc's are going to be in 8 bit graphics at this rate lol.

I'm about to go over the wall too. I wanna get Leviathan and i think ive git ine battle intel to go. But I'm also pretty bored of the Colleseum and just wanna continue the game. I've never been a fan of the amount of grinding in games as this is when is stops being fun.

Can someone help me through share play to do the pull-ups? I've already tried a lot on my first playthrough. I've gone back to Chapter 14 and now I can't even do the first one after Andrea. PS account in the signature. Please help me with this as there's no point for me to try other trophies if this one will always remain undone. I have a pretty good connection so it should work well

@Matroska sadly my connection is crap so i'm afraid i would be of no help, not to mention it took my over 40 minutes for me to beat Jules (on like my 4th time trying no less)

i know it's hard, maybe a bit too hard and i hope someone can help or you can get it done yourself

of course i don't want to be the party pooper here but can you gain trophies when doing share play?, you might want to look it up just in case, no point having someone else do it if you don't get the trophy

@FullbringIchigo Thanks. And apparently yes you can. I've eventually got to Jules but my best ever score - not just this playthrough but in all of them - is 24 vs 41 so I'm not too hopeful about me doing it. I hate it when JRPGs have minigames that have nothing to do with the normal gameplay. I could do hard mode with only 2 characters at most before I could do this.

@Matroska it's all about speed and rhythm and as long as you keep the rhythm it should be OK, just watch Tifa, if she stops moving during the reps you're going too slow