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Scollurio

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MadchesterManc

To be honest Im not even a fan of racing sims, more of a Wipeout/F-Zero kinda guy for racing (although the Motorstorm series is one of my favourites on Ps3) but I love Gran Turismo. It just 'feels' amazing to drive the cars on it. Plus due to the fact that it has so many cars, all the crying over GT4 upscales was amusing so Im guessing people would prefer it if they didnt add them?, Im able to do some funny tuning. Last night I took a 106 s16 and spent about a 100k just modding the hell out of it and created a beast for the winding tracks. 0-60 in like 3 seconds with some incredibly tight handling I dont have GT6 yet though, for some odd reason a raft of bills have sprung up this months so Im pen & ink. Im making do with GT5 though.

I also liked Forza 1 & 2. From 3 onwards Ive not really bothered with the series as the game seemed to be going in a different direction and when I played Forza 5 a couple of months ago, I was left a tad unimpressed. Id rather Microsoft stuck with Project Gotham Racing instead of Forza, that was a better series.

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Scollurio
MadchesterManc

To be honest Im not even a fan of racing sims, more of a Wipeout/F-Zero kinda guy for racing (although the Motorstorm series is one of my favourites on Ps3) but I love Gran Turismo. It just 'feels' amazing to drive the cars on it. Plus due to the fact that it has so many cars, all the crying over GT4 upscales was amusing so Im guessing people would prefer it if they didnt add them?, Im able to do some funny tuning. Last night I took a 106 s16 and spent about a 100k just modding the hell out of it and created a beast for the winding tracks. 0-60 in like 3 seconds with some incredibly tight handling I dont have GT6 yet though, for some odd reason a raft of bills have sprung up this months so Im pen & ink. Im making do with GT5 though.

I also liked Forza 1 & 2. From 3 onwards Ive not really bothered with the series as the game seemed to be going in a different direction and when I played Forza 5 a couple of months ago, I was left a tad unimpressed. Id rather Microsoft stuck with Project Gotham Racing instead of Forza, that was a better series.


Thank you for reading my wall of text. Sounds you're enjoying yourself and that's all that counts! And yes I agree totally with what you said about Forza and Microsoft. Project Gotham, even though it wasn't as "sim" as Forza was in a way better, had more soul or something!

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MadchesterManc

Im hoping that Driveclub will occupy the middle ground that PGR used to hold. It sounds similar from what Ive been reading and I trust Evolution to do it right. Their WRC games on Ps2 were superb so they've been doing racing games for a long time now. Hopefully my bills clear up soon so I can get a copy of GT6. The UI for GT5 is so slow & unbearable at times and is probably its weakest aspect. I hear GT6 fixes that...

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Tasuki

Wow very interesting and what a great write up.  Of course your write up is one reason I don't enjoy Gran Turismo it's way to technical for me and I am not that much of a car guy to begin with lol.  Still I am not going to review something I have no knowledge about and give it a low score because of that like it seems alot of places are doing.  For me I am more happy with a racing game like Mario Kart more so the GT but that's just me.  Would I choose Mario Kart over GT heck  yeah.  Do I think Mario Kart scores higher then GT in my book again yes, but that's because I enjoy the MK games more then GT.  I agree with you that they should have a reviewer who understands the game review it but sadly that too often is not the case.

Also I want to touch on something that you brought up in that other thread and that is the grinding aspect that some are complaining about and you are absolutely right.  If you enjoy the game then the grinding isn't a chore.  I guess that's why these games are adding microtransactions so that why they can get more people interested in the series.

Anyway again great write up and I will say it is very interesting although it hasn't changed how I feel about GT, but I can now see why so many people would like it especially if you are a car nut.

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MadchesterManc

@Scollurio After reading through it again, it is indeed a great write-up On that note, Im wondering if its possible to use your wall of text to create an article on my blog for it? Obviously all the credit will go where its due ad I'll link back here for those looking for the original. Let me know. It does deserve a wider audience with the amount of effort you've no doubt put into the write-up

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Scollurio
Tasuki

Wow very interesting and what a great write up.  Of course your write up is one reason I don't enjoy Gran Turismo it's way to technical for me and I am not that much of a car guy to begin with lol.  Still I am not going to review something I have no knowledge about and give it a low score because of that like it seems alot of places are doing.  For me I am more happy with a racing game like Mario Kart more so the GT but that's just me.  Would I choose Mario Kart over GT heck  yeah.  Do I think Mario Kart scores higher then GT in my book again yes, but that's because I enjoy the MK games more then GT.  I agree with you that they should have a reviewer who understands the game review it but sadly that too often is not the case.

Also I want to touch on something that you brought up in that other thread and that is the grinding aspect that some are complaining about and you are absolutely right.  If you enjoy the game then the grinding isn't a chore.  I guess that's why these games are adding microtransactions so that why they can get more people interested in the series.

Anyway again great write up and I will say it is very interesting although it hasn't changed how I feel about GT, but I can now see why so many people would like it especially if you are a car nut.

Oh thank you for that. Well guess what? I love Mario Kart too! It's not always about finding the perfect line, sometimes it's just about pissing your friend off with a blue shell! I appreciate you actually took the time to read this behemoth. It's just nowadays people tend to give other folks a hard time about their taste in games just because they don't "get" why that other guy loves a given franchise. It's the same with people calling Mario Kart a "kiddy game". Well considering the style it probably is, but it doesn't mean that a grown up person cannot have fun with it, and I guess "fun" - no matter how to generate it for one's self - is pretty much without age. How goes the saying? Whatever floats yer boat (drives your car/bounces your cart/peels your banana, .... ).

Thanks again for your input!

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Scollurio
MadchesterManc

@Scollurio After reading through it again, it is indeed a great write-up On that note, Im wondering if its possible to use your wall of text to create an article on my blog for it? Obviously all the credit will go where its due ad I'll link back here for those looking for the original. Let me know. It does deserve a wider audience with the amount of effort you've no doubt put into the write-up

Oh thank you, I feel honored, feel free to do so, if you find some typos or bad grammar, feel free to correct it (as Im typing faster than I think and english is not my native language). Thank you lots for that great compliment. Make sure you post a link to the blog once it's up, Im curious to see it there! I just enjoy writing loads I guess!

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Tasuki
Scollurio
Tasuki

Wow very interesting and what a great write up.  Of course your write up is one reason I don't enjoy Gran Turismo it's way to technical for me and I am not that much of a car guy to begin with lol.  Still I am not going to review something I have no knowledge about and give it a low score because of that like it seems alot of places are doing.  For me I am more happy with a racing game like Mario Kart more so the GT but that's just me.  Would I choose Mario Kart over GT heck  yeah.  Do I think Mario Kart scores higher then GT in my book again yes, but that's because I enjoy the MK games more then GT.  I agree with you that they should have a reviewer who understands the game review it but sadly that too often is not the case.

Also I want to touch on something that you brought up in that other thread and that is the grinding aspect that some are complaining about and you are absolutely right.  If you enjoy the game then the grinding isn't a chore.  I guess that's why these games are adding microtransactions so that why they can get more people interested in the series.

Anyway again great write up and I will say it is very interesting although it hasn't changed how I feel about GT, but I can now see why so many people would like it especially if you are a car nut.

Oh thank you for that. Well guess what? I love Mario Kart too! It's not always about finding the perfect line, sometimes it's just about pissing your friend off with a blue shell! I appreciate you actually took the time to read this behemoth. It's just nowadays people tend to give other folks a hard time about their taste in games just because they don't "get" why that other guy loves a given franchise. It's the same with people calling Mario Kart a "kiddy game". Well considering the style it probably is, but it doesn't mean that a grown up person cannot have fun with it, and I guess "fun" - no matter how to generate it for one's self - is pretty much without age. How goes the saying? Whatever floats yer boat (drives your car/bounces your cart/peels your banana, .... ).

Thanks again for your input!

I like that fact that you used valid points as to why rather then just saying cause I like it and anyone who doesn't agree with me is wrong.  It does help me get why you love the franchise.  I have always been a firm believer to play what you like.  If GT is your thing then more power too you if MK is well that's great too.  And again its nice that you explained it.

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Scollurio

Thanks, I wasn't even sure anyone would read through that whole thing. Im kinda burned out on fanboyism and also on invalid or just "off-the-point" reviews by so called professionals. Some reviews I read made it sound a bit like:

Oh yeah it is a racing game. You go around in circles, no innovation there, the tires squeal and the engine revs, thats good, but I want explosions, super boosts and basically a simulation of everything, but it shouldn't be too hard, or a grind, and actually, why is there no button that I can press and I instantly see the credits and unlock all trophies....

Or to put this all into a fun way and into another genre:

I just played that shooter. It's so weird. So bland. You shoot your gun and you keep losing ammo. When it's depleted all you do is reload your gun and it's the same all over again. Also when I get hit often enough, my character dies. Everoyne does that. No innovation. Why can't there be a flowerpetal growing out of my tummy and we all dance around holding hands when my health reaches zero...

Ah well.

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MadchesterManc

I think most will agree on the review point, especially myself with regards to mainstream sites. One of the reasons I started doing the blog was because I was fed up of websites not giving the more niche & quirky titles out there a fair crack of the whip. Seen as I play those games and understand them better than a random who's been dumped with the game I thought it'd be good to post reviews and I've managed to find some people to help me post on it too. It's not too bad on PushSquare though. I do take notice of reviews here. I'll post up your piece in the morning n drop a link here so you can see how it is. Im trying to finish a game for review at the minute so I'm a little busy I got tasked with our first review request...

I'm hopefully going to be getting GT6 next week so I'll send you an invite on PSN when I get the chance so we can race sometime

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Scollurio

@MadchesterManc Yeah, seems like we have a similar view on things. Good stuff your blog and it will be my pleasure racing with you!

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MadchesterManc
Scollurio

@MadchesterManc Yeah, seems like we have a similar view on things. Good stuff your blog and it will be my pleasure racing with you!

Here's your post: Guest Article: The Thing with Gran Turismo 6..

Ive not really edited it much to be honest Its been shared to Twitter, Google+, Blogger etc so it should get a decent audience.

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Scollurio

Heheh wow thank you!
This feels big for me!
*cheers*

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MadchesterManc
Scollurio

Heheh wow thank you!
This feels big for me!
*cheers*

Just so you know, your write-up has pulled in more views than the Tales of Zestiria reveal, so theres obviously some interest out there for GT6 If you do a write up again for anything sometime n wouldn't mind it getting published again let us know.

Actually there is something Ive been wondering about GT6 lately, is there lengthly install? GT5 has one (it is optional though but its best to do it) that can up to about 40 minutes to do so Im hoping its been streamlined for GT6 if there is one

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Scollurio

Thanks @Tasuki and thanks again @MadchesterManc
As soon as I have a writeup on something Ill let you know, I might probably do some kind of writeup on Zelda Link Between Worlds soon as I am the NOT typical Zelda fan and might have different perspectives on things.
As to your question, yes it does have an install but its running in the background once you start the game, there are a few substantial patches that start downloading automatically when you first run the game though. All in all I wasn't too bothered by it, I haven't played GT5 though so I cannot compare.

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Scollurio

For those who are interested in GT6 and racing games ing general and still read this thread, I want to update my impressions of GT6. Much has been talked about the moon missions, the coffee breaks and the license tests. I don't like the coffee breaks too much, but don't mind them either, what I really DO like is the missions. Because each and every mission is meant to TEACH you something. To improve your driving. Go for gold and many of them will take you countless repetitions. But! But if you focus on doing them and eventually get gold, you will have many many "epiphany"-moments where you realize just WHY you now were faster, why you could hold that line that you before couldn't. They teach you thinks like braking zones, trail braking, proper acceleration and much more. I consider myself as "very experienced" sim racer but even I learned a new thing here and there, especially as they make it so you can actually see, appreciate and "get" what you just did and why it matters in racing. After several missions I could improve my general lap times in the career mode by around 1 second. Thats a lot in racing.

I don't know if you even care to put that much effort into a game but for those that do or those that are willing to, take the missions seriously. You learn a lot there. The moon mission is a fun novelty but after I got gold on them all I never bothered again. Still, its eerie and nicely done and racks you quite some cash.

Online, except one dropped connection I only had positive experience. Find the proper room for you and people are generally nice and really try hard to drive and race properly. Not once have I encountered some crashing kid. I also like that you DO HAVE to get a certain license before you even can go online, thus ensuring that at least the minimum basics of racing are understood before you progress to online mode.

I still am more than happy with my purchase and think that this is the best racing experience I have had in years, no matter what system. The force feedback quality is beyond awesome and I don't mind the few "not up to top notch" sounds of the cars. Most of them sound spectacular. Really love this.

Btw, there is only ONE thing. Im driving without any driving assists and so far I've found it REALLY hard to tame that friggin F40. It's THAT hard to drive, no fun at all. Anyone got tipps?
Oh yeah and I still am learning how to drift, I can do wonderfully on dirt tracks, but the proper drifting on asphalt, its hard... even with racing wheel. But hey, I do like a challenge!

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Scollurio

Just thought I'd share a few photos I took in game. All unedited (only in game tools).

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