In order to combat even more PS5 console price increases in Europe, Sony is reportedly looking at reducing the storage space of the SSD each system comes packaged with.
According to Dealabs leaker Billbil-Kun, the Digital Edition of the base PS5 will start to have 825GB of space as part of a new Chassis E series, as opposed to the 1TB of storage in the Chassis D model. The launch PS5 models back in 2020 also come with 825GB of space as standard, but this was increased to 1TB when the PS5 Slim version was released.
The leaker claims that, in the case of the base PS5's Digital Edition in Europe specifically, it's getting reduced storage to avoid having to raise the price of the system once again. The console has already had two price rises since release.
This new model will reportedly be available from 13th September 2025.
Rather than price drops and more affordable models as the generation has progressed, the PS5 and Xbox Series X|S era has bucked the trend with price increases. These have been in response to current market conditions and tariffs imposed by USA president Donald Trump.
Just a few weeks ago, Sony announced a $50 price increase for all PS5 models. Sony vice president Isabelle Tomatis said the following: "Similar to many global businesses, we continue to navigate a challenging economic environment. As a result, we’ve made the difficult decision to increase the recommended retail price for PlayStation 5 consoles in the U.S. starting on August 21."
This change in approach to price has also become an issue for third-party publishers, with Capcom executive Haruhiro Tsujimoto believing the cost is limiting software sales. Having earmarked PS5 as the lead platform for Monster Hunter Wilds, he argued the cost of the PS5 combined with a PS Plus subscription and the price of the game itself is too much.
[source dealabs.com]
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This is such a strange generation.
Paying the same and getting less... That is a price increase
@nicc83 would you prefer a direct price increase?
Cheapening the product is a slippery slope.
What's next? Cheaper graphics chips? Less ports? No controller?
It won't end with just one cheapening.
In a world where we know the PS5 to be more profitable than all previous generations combined, nobody can tell me that price rises and lessening of storage is remotely necessary
First it was toilet paper, but now shrinkflation has finally come to our gaming consoles.
Why do so few commenters seem to understand the price of most high-end electronics are going up, both parts and manufacture. It isn't nickel and diming, it's simply balancing the books.
Would you keep selling a product at the same price if you were making less on it than last year?
@nicc83
Don't know how to quote a comment
Paying the same and getting less... That is a price increase
This has basically been life ever since the COVID-19 Pandemic started.
This is ridiculous, it is borderline stupidity. So laptops and tvs and all electronics are getting cheaper…but playstation is 5 years old and its getting more expensive….Ssd is way cheaper now then what it was 5 years ago too you know. This is just blowing my mind. Sony has lost its marbles, I don’t think its ever been this bad.
The world we living at. They will do anything to get the corporal gains. I hope steam actually releases those home consoles they leaked on. I would rather get steam home console than trash home console that's locked to one thing and completely draining it's customers with the worst "deals" ever.
They could actually reduce the price if they wanted, the components don't cost nearly as much as they did in 2020. The console cost a lot less to manufacture. They're just greedy and using tariffs as an excuse. Same for Nintendo and Microsoft.
@N1ghtW1ng Cost of almost everything is going up. It wasn't just covid, it's wars in the world, more nationalism, people in less developed countries understandably wanting more and a hundred other factors all contributing to higher prices. High-end electronics in particular are especially hard hit.
@GigaGaia This just isn't true. The cost of manufacture, distribution and parts of high-end electronics is going UP not down (including tariffs, taxes, rising distribution costs and other factors). Just because it was true in the past doesn't mean it's true forever.
It's time to switch to a gaming PC
So I think Sony are making more money with the PS5 console than the PS4 console but have sold less PS5 consoles worldwide.
I think that was from a Sony financial quarterly report.
WE ARE GETTING MUGGED OFF AGAIN BY SONY.
@naruball How is that not a direct price increase?
Just because the price sticker hasn't changed. You're getting less product = price increase.
Dire. Utterly dire.
Xbox Game pass ultimate still the best value in gaming overall.
Bring on the power PCs or even a series x.
Sony have so been mugging us off this whole generation.
Nothing compare to the PS4 era and even the start of the PS5 era.
Pay more less big AAA campaign Sony studio games.
It’s interesting because in Canada the PS5 has been on sale at least a couple of times this summer. Just last week you could get a digital edition for $509 CAD (about $370 USD) and one with a disc drive for $579 (about $420). In June I bought my new PS5 Pro including a bundled in disc drive for $890 plus tax (about $645 USD). Interesting how they can seemingly take a loss in some regions (or at least sell for much less) but not others.
Also interesting to hear people go on about how expensive gaming is in Canada, where I would bet that when sales are factored in, it is probably one of the cheapest places to game (aside from first party Nintendo gaming). Sale prices are games get dirt cheap. My wife lives in NY so I am often there, and I often notice that sale prices are much better here after factoring in conversion from one dollar to the other. And definitely miss Shoppers Drug Mart carrying video games and getting 30% off on everything... IYKYK
@nicc83 because it's not. Whether we like it or not, they won't lose money on each console sold. So they'll either directly increase the price or sell it at the same price but offer less. For some people less storage is a dealbreaker. For others, it's not.
So, my question remains, would you rather they increased the price instead?
Curse those tariffs, oh wait...
What a disaster this gen has been. I’m not being funny, the PS3 continued to drop in price amidst the financial crash. If parts aren’t going down now, it’s a concerted effort to keep the rich richer.
Gamers in general have had it pretty cushy, as the industry has been more or less immune to changing economic circumstances. They're getting their first real taste of economics now, but unfortunately most don't have the specialized education to understand why Sony (and Nintendo) can't just "make things cheaper." And it would be an absolute waste trying to explain it in a forum thread. This brainrot generation will only ever understand "CEO bad / company greedy" as the only reason things are so expensive.
@themightyant
I had a chat involving Padel (just got addicted to it) with someone that's doing their Honours at University, and this guy believed that when Demand increases, Prices go down.
It's very clear that this dude didn't complete or failed a first year Economics course.
I'm sure there's many people like him out there that won't be able to understand the underlying causes of price increases.
If Sony is going to do this they need to announce in $ terms how much the 1TB was going to cost them vs the 825GB and tell us how much they were going to raise the price if they kept the larger size.
Sony buys these pieces in bulk by the literal millions, and I can't imagine any reason why a manufacturer would prefer to keep making a smaller size rather than a larger one, certainly not at that minimal of a difference. So if Sony says something stupid like - if we didn't use a smaller size it was going to cost us an extra $3 per until, and we were then going to have to charge an extra $50 per PS5 to make that $3 back, b/c we only raise or lower prices in $50 increments - then they San all rake a long walk off a short peer.
Thus is probably all BS anyway and PS just has us wasting our time w/ this rumour.
The only way I could imagine this being real, since they mentioned the digital edition, is if Sony has a small paperback book size PS5,,like the PS3 Super Slim, which can't be upgraded like the current slim, so they're going w/ that size b/c it's going to be cheaper, lighter, smaller etc. so maybe the 825GB makes sense to set it apart. It's getting near time for an end-of-life cheap model ahead of the PS6. 🤷♂️
And people actually believe that we will get a PS6 thats:
Oh wow were allowed to comment.
There haven't been too many occasions in the last 4 years or so where I've actually wished for more than 825GB
What a perplexing decision. How much can this actually save Sony? All it can save is the difference between an 825GB SSD and a 1TB one - how much is that?….$10-15 maybe per unit…and likely substantially less seeing as Sony buy huge numbers of such components. Then there’s the added cost of redesigning and reprinting the literature, boxes, etc for these consoles.
Surely it would be far easier just to raise the price by a (very) small amount per PS5.
@nessisonett thats not it.
Games are just not selling.
Big hitters like like horizon spidey and god of war ragnarok can't even sell past the 50% of there first games that sold more then 25 million each.
Plus naughty dog released no games this gen past 2 million in sales.
And then take in concord fairgames.
And all bungie failures.
Its not the tarrifs games are just not selling enough.
@The_ghostmen is that why they're making record breaking profits?
It most certainly is the tarries and denying it at this point makes zero sense.
@Feffster @rjejr
Im sure I remember Mark Cerny (in an early PS5 video / interview) stating that an 825 Gb SSD was much more efficient to produce (ideal size) as opposed to 1Tb - I can only assume that that was based on price efficiency ie price per Gb.
This might actually be a much greater cost difference than we think.
Shrinkflation it is. Reduce the product (quality, size, parts and so on) to keep charging the same.
It's like a 'stealth' price increase.
And before the Sony's guardians come asking me 'would you rather they increased the price instead?' NO! I would rather receiving the same or even more for less money because I'm a consumer and I value my money.
Let's hope this is just a rumour and doesn't turn out to be true.
If you then have to buy increased storage because you find 825g insufficient, @narubal, then maybe a direct increase in price would be preferable. It would not surprise me if that is the idea that Sony have, sell a console with reduced storage, and then sell the increased storage too as an upgrade. It's a little underhanded, if you ask me...
@Bamila steam had already tried with pc consoles and no one bought them , what makes you think it would work again? i mean you could just buy a pc at that point and hook it up to a tv.
@Rich33 - (30 seconds research on Amazon from me!) - the difference between a 500GB and 1TB nvme SSD is £22. So it’s safe to assume the difference between 825GB and 1TB would therefore be less. Sony (bulk buying) would reduce unit cost further.
Doesn’t affect me as I already have all the storage I need, but it just seems like a penny-pinching exercise at best.
1TB NVMes aren't that expensive I bought a Crucial T500 1TB NVME for £84 October 2024 newly 1 year later it's £3 more at £87 and it includes a heat sink and works perfectly in my PS5 for spare storage.
This is a stupid excuse
I'm happy I purchased my PS5 & PS5 pro before the price increase. You can always replace the SSD. I did that for both my PS5's. I can have over hundred games on my SSD.
And people still think that a hypothetical 2027 ps6 is gonna be priced around the PS5 🤣
@Bingoboyop I'm guessing it'll be at least £550
They have teams of analysts figuring out how to maximize profit down to the last dollar. Makes sense from a business standpoint. But trying to defend their practices as a consumer is nonsensical. Sony are not the good guys and “for the players” is just a meme.
I don't know how some customers would even defend this and yet I know some of you will try.
It is a price increase, just a stealth one.
But... Both my PS5 and PS5 Pro have 8tb SSD's. I don't use the console storage. If I was buying a new console, this wouldn't affect me negatively. It would be a price cut of sorts.
As someone whose start in gaming was loading games from cassette tapes, followed by floppy disks and then cartridges, this reduction of storage doesn't bother me.
Gamers today are very concerned about storage because they like to download as many games as possible, but it's really only a recent advance that allowed us go from only being able to load 1 game at a time (PS1 and earlier), to being able to pre-load a portion of the game to speed up loading (PS2) to being able to fully store the game digitally on internal storage (PS3). The thing is most of us only play a handful of games, I'd venture less than 5, at a time. 825GB is more than enough space for most gamers, and NVMEs are cheap enough to be an option if you "have to" download games you probably won't play for more than an hour a week.
If I'm going to end up spending a lot anyways I might as well get a gaming PC
@EK42 it would be a price cut? When you’re paying the same for less? Interesting take.
@HRdepartment of sorts. If im not using the thing they are cutting, then yes.
This is the worst console generation
Such nonsense. Anyone believing that Sony would cut 175gb to prevent a price increase when they've already increased it twice is just lost.
This is just another way to mildly pad profits. Nothing more and on par for Sony.
Ps5 launch on 2020, Trump become president on 2025, there isn't price decrease in the 5 years of this console-gen, sony just want scapegoat to increase ps5 price. There should be $300 ps5 super slim by now, not increasing price or lowering the internal ssd storage
Ps5 still haven't gotten its uncharted 4 yet, a game that scream "the next-gen start now" type of games. On psone it's the launch games (ridge racer, tekken, and wipeout blow me away as a kid), on ps2 it's ridge racer v and later final fantasy 10, on ps3 it's mgs 4, it's uncharted 4 for ps4, but I'm drawing blank on ps5, there's a lot of good games but not next-gen type of games besides the resolutions & framerate update. Maybe gta 6 will be that game.
@nicc83 Sadly, that’s been the way it is for a lot of things for a long time. It’s only going to get worse.
Storage really isn’t an issue for me as i only play a normal number of games at a time and have nobody else sharing the PS5 (the wife has her own); nevertheless, I do think Sony should just take less profit per unit. But I guess there are investors they need to keep happy if they are going to keep investing.
@The_ghostmen
Why let facts get in the way of a good rant, eh? To take one of your examples: God of War Ragnarok sold 5.1 million copies in its first week of sale, the fastest-selling first party game in Playstation history. By 2023, a year after launch, it had sold over 15 million copies - way more than 50% of the 23 million copies the 2018 game had sold (by 2022). Similarly, Spiderman 2 broke Playstation records by selling 2.5 million copies in 24 hours.
Yawn. Shareholders and CEOs want all the money in the world. It's been so easy to just check out of this terrible, greedy generation.
It's a shame, sure, but honestly, who hasn't bought a PS5 yet who wants one? You've had 5 years to get one by now! The PS6 isn't that far off, if you haven't upgraded already, at this point you may as well just wait. Or, if you absolutely must get a PS5 so late in the generation, and want that 1TB storage, just go on ebay, there are plenty of refurbished ones there.
All of which is to say: this really isn't that big a deal for a console that's been around so long.
@Lowdefal
That sounds about right (what he was saying) - its been a while!
Which was why I was slightly surprised when they upped it to 1Tb, and Pro came with 2Tb - not multiples of 825Gb.
I agree it was probably cost related more than anything, hence why I was wondering if going back to 825Gb creates a bigger cost saving than it may 1st appear.
Starting to remind me of those Cadbury’s Brunch Bar’s that I’m quite fond of. Before the pandemic they were £1 for 5. Now they’re £1.50, you only get 4 in a box and every bar is like 15% smaller.
but storage prices have fallen over the past 5 years by as much as 50% so why is storage suddenly being used as yet another excuse for increasing prices? people really need to scrutinize all the crap that we are being fed on a daily basis instead of taking excuses at face value. worst case scenario is that sony takes in 23% profit instead of 25% over the tariffs. get over it. the customer experience and perceived value is just as important to your brand as the revenue. sony has tunnel vision and cannot see past the dollars and cents of today but will be crying when its loyal users disappear or don't bite when the ps6 releases.
Time to quit gaming once the current gen becomes obsolete
@Yiro998 Gpu's also going up in price
Absolutely rip off.
It's crazy how we now live in a world where old outdated hardware costs more than it did when it was released. Let alone cutting hard drive space
The good infinite growth myth and look after shareholders first
@Foxhound
So, about 10 years time then?
@Anke we already have no disc drive or stand
Making me feel better about getting a Pro two weeks ago before the prices increased. Yeah, it’s $700, but comes with the extra technical upgrades and also a 2 TB SSD.
Although, in fairness, my OG PS5’s 825 GB was sufficient most of the time. A little annoying to constantly clear games off and try to decide which ones to leave on, but it’ll be a nice luxury to not have to juggle games. Reminds me of inventory management in an RPG, trying to avoid becoming encumbered and choosing which armor set to sell to make room for extra potions and alchemy ingredients. 😂
Still waiting for an epic, 1983 style, video game crash. Maybe THAT would make Sony (and the rest of the industry) humble again...
@SeaDaVie I doubt the PS5 will still get game releases 15 years after the console's release, so more like in 5 years time
@PCPS4XB I know I'm kidding, I have a PS5 2020 model with 825 GB and it's completely enough for me and for many others. Of course, it's bad when things like this happen, but in my opinion, a price increase would be worse. For those who want to increase the memory, it's very easy on PlayStation and it's cheaper
@themightyant agree with "high end electronics getting lower" - its not true.
I had an s23 ultra back in 23 around launch (unlocked, etc) and its was £1200. Because I noticed a big difference to the midrange phones ive had in the past, ive been keeping an eye on s24 / 25 and the 25 from the same website is £150 more for the same storage.
The only 2 reasons I haven't upgraded is because the stats / reviews basically show its the same phone (to the casual observer like me that wont use every function), and the fact that I find my s23 that good im still happy with battery life only needing to charge it once a day.
So high end electronics are still going up, whether people believe that or not. Yes you may get more bells and whistles as time goes on, but as someone that never uses a macro on a camera (though my gf does on mine), why would i want to upgrade to something I see as adjacent for a higher outlay than what I have and perceive as the same?
It's the general public i feel sorry for in a way as there are undeniably people who wait until mid - late gen with consoles to get a bargain; but the only decreases that are happening are what comes with the machine, whilst the price goes up. Though saying that, im also aware of sonys profits being high (yet the need to make more as a company), and the correlation with other adjacent "slap a new badge on it" products.
As others have said, its been a weird generation; i know i wont be going all out for a ps6 in whatever form it takes, same as im not getting said new phone, as now im in my 40s, ive learnt how to compare items and think about what im getting compared to just giving people my money; especially in this economy.
That said, the world is just weird altogether. Im also the type of person that would rather pay more for the same with food inflation than less for the same; but we've been conditioned with electronics that they come down over time - and I think we need to start realising that the only way they're coming down anytime soon is quite literally stock clearance.
Sorry for the big reply to you directly. Kind of my view to everyone complaining about things should be the same price 🤣
@Foxhound we are still getting a steady stream of ps4 releases 12 years after it released. i think the ps5 will have en even longer tail than the ps4 due to many people not upgrading to ps6 and the absurdly high cost of living where entertainment takes a back seat in the coming years. if you own a ps5, you should be good until 2033, with a few exceptions. sadly, people get tired of old tech and throw wisdom out the window just for a few extra pixels and frames
@Foxhound seems reasonable to assume that but CoD is still releasing on PS4 this year and that’s a 12 year old console. The jump between he PS5 to PS6 will be even smaller and games might be targeting a ps handheld too.
The next console gen is cooked before it’s even begun. My guess is the starting price of ps6 will be £700
Pc is already increasing its market share that will just continue at a rapid pace. Especially considering you can get decent pc’s that hook up to the television and are small enough to put under the box.
Starting in Europe but just like the price hike that started in Europe, USA gonna get it to.
@themightyant the components are still massively cheaper though. That SSD cost at least £200 in 2020 and now you can get one for £50. £150 saving on just one thing.
@Rich33 "This might actually be a much greater cost difference than we think."
Then I'm willing to listen to them explain it.
It was also 5 years ago. Even if tarriffs have caused the cost if most things to rise technology keeps moving forward, and storage sizes keep growing, and I'd have to think any manufacturer would be like " we're not making anything that small any more when we could be making more money making larger sizes". Something like that.🤷♂️
But again, if they're making a smaller PS5 Super Slim at a cheaper price, then by all means shrink the size. But shrinking it from 1TB to 825GB to keep the price the same seems kinda ridiculous the more I think about it.🤑
@rjejr
I agree in some ways it seems a bit silly - I just wonder if because of what he was saying (MC) that the part cost for using 1Tb is actually say twice the part cost for 825Gb (maybe the control chip is cheaper too at 825Gb). The saving may only be modest still though, but I dont think they want to raise the price further.
I bought a 1Tb SSD to expand my storage very soon after PS opened the functionality - If I try to buy the same SSD from the same seller it's just the same price now as it was then (maybe a tiny bit more).
To be fair it doesn't really bother me that much - I have the 2Tb Pro, and if people dont want to go that way there is always SSD expansion drives - my original PS5 was only 825Gb, I added a 1Tb expansion and that was enough.
However, I do not agree with the "we're not making anything that small any more when we could be making more money making larger sizes" part. Thats no different to Sony saying they are stopping all models except the Pro.
I know Moore's law is dead or at least in it's last stages of it's death throws (seems to be yes to improvements but no to price cuts 🤣) but this confirms buying one to start the gen was the best idea for once
@Fyz306903 in what world would the PS6 cost less than a PS5 Pro?
For as customised as the SSD is by Sony I still find this stupid. They literally made the heat sink smaller and still increased the price, tell me how that works using less copper and other materials. That's where you can say it's inexcuseable.
So rumour or not who knows. I've seen the PS5 bundles Astro or even regular digital/disk be discounted in JB Hifi a few times but even then PCs have been more even when partnering with Umart so I don't know what to believe there for some retailers versus Sony themselves, yet other devices get cheaper and follow normal course and console makers don't, as if the software margins haven't been clear enough compared to hardware sales.
Having less chips sure, but if it's the original 825GB or whatever it was with the 625GB or any less besides speeds or whatever it was of space besides OS/other uses then yeah what's the point if it's the same price and less chips?
They can tweak any aspects for cost cutting, or features software wise or anything. They choose not to.
Whether special chips or software customised or otherwise there is no excuse. Some things, for sure I can understand, but others not at all.
I don't care about the PS5/Series S/X anyway, I'm happy on PS4, Xbox One and Switch 1 (got in 2021, Wii U 2018, 3DS 2020, so I'm good with my up to the 2010s devices just OG Xbox/GameCube/GBA to go), I don't buy 1st party games I don't like the direction of them, I don't watch their tv shows, I don't care about their live services other then if they make them right, otherwise singleplayer gaming all the way anyway. 3rd parties are hit and miss and game design sucks so all for older games and design that won't happen any more (other then the handful of Indies or AAs on 8th/9th gen) so why wouldn't I be picky. The game design is PS4 and more graphics/rocks/grass/render distance if they want to show it or not. What's so exciting about that. Nothing.
They can cut off PS4 disk production any time if they want to or PS4 eshop digital game approval any time. Yet they haven't.
While USB or other storage differs, same with RAM and other variations, they all vary and are cheap as ever. 128GB is cheap these days to like $20, so why is the 1TB to 2TD (sure that is a jump so it's understandable why) but why make these consoles so expensive.
I thought the point of consoles is to make them entry level enough, but no they up the prices on hardware that is already old enough and want more money yet are making plenty of money as it is.
People can spend a lot on MTX or plenty of eshop discounted games and Sony goes, nah not enough money. Like come on.
They choose the hardware parts, they are either getting screwed over by the parts makers which is likely for the price to parts ratio of things (yet we don't always hear about it) or Sony themselves are just greedy.
I get the amount of resources needed, I get prices to process, build it, deliver it, etc. But come on. How many PS5s do they need let alone test prototypes of PS6 to come to the conclusion they don't have 'enough' of an audience or money made from them.
I mean they do realise the lack of compelling games, the prices of hardware and more, fiancial situations around the world, tariffs or not.
Like they seem to think people will just double down, well have more collectors edition colours or plates then? Collectors will buy them. But they don't so what's the point then in being greedy.
Let me translate this. Sony has lots of 825GB allready in stock and already paid for, and what they don't have is now probably dirt cheap. So we get that instead of the new larger ITB. Then too that drop will hopefully prompt more purchasing additional storage.
Comparing to PS2, 3, and 4 gens a regular PS5 with disc drive and 1TB drive should now be $400, and the Pro with drive and 1TB $500. Then in 2027 a 2TB slimmer slim with 2 TB for $300. My PS2 slim was $125 new as compared to the original price of $300 for a PS2.
Yes there has been inflation and skrinkflation, but unfortunately hourly pay and salaries have not kept up with rising prices.
@Slideaway1983 I can understand your stance, but I see it a little differently. Mine is this:
Buying a console is an investment for the next 7-8 years, therefore the earlier I get one the longer I will have to enjoy it while it is MOST relevant, therefore I will be there day 1 for PS6 and enjoy it for the next 7-8 years, trade in the PS5 while it still has some value to recoup some of that cost and replace with the next one. Value is always subjective but as an enthusiast I still think over 7-8 years every PlayStation has been excellent value.
But if you don’t upgrade immediately older consoles don’t become obsolete on being superseded nowadays either. PS4 for example is still a great bit of kit, it is far from obsolete and could be relevant for around 15+ years.
Personally I think, compared to many other far more expensive hobby’s - e.g. how much does a football ticket or concert ticket cost… not to mention the cost of the day out - that gaming is great value. YMMV
@Andy22385 Yes that one part may have got cheaper over time, yet when looked as a WHOLE the cost of manufacture and parts is going up.
As for the SSD specifically when PS5 released in 2020 a gen 4 m.2 nvme was absolutely cutting edge so the price was a premium (so much so that compatible expansions weren’t enabled for 6-12 months) yet most PS5 console parts don’t fit this paradigm and have gotten more expensive over time. Sony will make cuts wherever they can to sell the console at a price that the market will bear while still keeping P&L in line.
Also a 825gb chipset on the board would not have cost Sony anything near £200 in 2020, they buy in bulk at great discount. You are referring to retail costs of the 1TB drives. The £150 saving you posited is not right.
@Yiro998 Be careful what you wish for! Yes,I do own a PC,nothing flash by today's standards with i5 Intel, (before they became their current basket case),& rtx 3060 combo...have aspirations to do another build someday but between Windows 11 SSD potentially killing updates, Nvidia & AMD gpu price gouging duopoly, & hoping your latest Asrock, Asus or insert name manufacturer hasn't pulled something dodgy on the latest motherboard releases that might fry a CPU it's a continual roulette spin getting something that doesn't cost a small fortune or bites you trying to upgrade a CPU or similar later!
Shrinkflation definitely isn't something I had on my 2025 console bingo card,even moreso when digital players need all the storage they can scrape!
@BattleMonkey easily in my opinion. PS6 wont be over £599. The Pro is an optional console so they can price it how they like and no one is excluded. The PS6 is needed to play games, and they need the masses to buy it to sell games. 799+ is suicide for them and it'll be another PS3 situation.
@themightyant they do buy in bulk, but they'd also be buying in bulk today so it'd still be a fraction of the cost in 2020. Its a massive saving. I was saying the retail to give some idea how the SSD price has plummeted and theyre saving a fortune on them. And I very much doubt the GPU and CPU are more expensive today than they were 5-6 years ago. The only likely cost thats increased is manufacturing and distribution. But when the components are so much cheaper than 5-6 years ago theyre certainly making it and providing it to customers cheaper than they were.
@Fiendish-Beaver but sony don’t sell storage for ps5 it’s mostly third parties
@SeaDaVie @Porco That's great, I certainly plan on making the PS5 my last console, good to know it will be relevant for a long time
@Andy22385 And yet... prices are going up on consoles and similar tech. If it was JUST Sony I might be with you, but when everyone is following the same path do you think... perhaps... it might just be because they all need to balance the books and it isn't just greed?
I'm sure Sony would love to reduce the price of the console and sell more units, it's literally in their best interest to sell as many as possible - they don't make most of their money through console sales, it's through people owning PlayStation's and buying on PSN. In fact most reports suggest the digital console has always lost money.
@Foxhound Honestly I won’t be buying a PS6 for a looong time, and I’ll be happy to keep playing games on PS5 for years.
I'm sure a lot of people won't agree with me, but I think the base hardware should be sold at a loss. We as customers are being asked to gamble on the future potential of a brand new console with our money, and every sold console is another potential avenue for income to Sony through game-sales throughout the generation.
They should absolutely eat the cost of the console in order to lower the bar to entry for more people, and it's really giving me the ick how much greed the three manufacturers rub in our faces these days.
@themightyant i understand your point completely, and I was as good as a "day one" ps5 owner, but personally im not seeing much bang for my buck by way of games. Ironically im a solo gamer 99% of the time, and with the amount and quality of even 3rd party games you'd think i was in nirvana, but im too anxious to play silent hill 2, soulslikes dont interest me because I dont "got game" etc... so in my stance im happy to stick with the ps5 for a good while.
Granted, I also have a switch 2 and will buy all 1st party physical games to get the nintendo experience, so I have more flexibility than someone with one machine.
But this year all I can remember playing on ps5 is patapon replay, clair obscure and currently thps 3+4, so 4 remasters from 5 games; which is a bit shocking as someone that loves to play games in my spare time 🤣
I mean I do have borderlands next week (i think!) But even though its pre ordered, im on the fence as to how much ill play it due to the third one. Im hoping its a step up, or im done with that franchise as well... maybe its just because im getting old and focus / tastes in hobbies are changing, but my gaming habits have shifted a lot since the release of ps5, but especially when its been a heatwave in the UK ive much more enjoyed painting / playing an instrument either with a sheet music book / rocksmith than play a traditional game.
So no arguments from me with your point. I've still got my ps5, and will continue to keep it; but i will wait and see how the games pan out for ps6 if I consider getting one down the line. We all seek our own value!
@Slideaway1983 That I can understand. Personally i've been overwhelmed with games to play and can't keep up with releases.
I hope more games come out that interest you... but regardless enjoy your other hobbies, making music and art is great. Enjoy!
It s pure unadulterated price gouging, nothing more. Has nothing to do with Tariffs, the US tariffs do not impact goods from Japan / China to Europe yet they raised European prices. They get 37% total PlayStation revenue from the US and 34% from Europe, that is not enough to argue US biggest market so to protect it Europe must suffer..
The ONLY argument they can make is inflation, but even that has dropped in some countries, the UK though has kept it sky high and growing thanks to idiot government policy. But the fact cannot be ignored of how old the PS5 is now and that as such production costs WILL be a lot less then when it launched. Sony are making a nice profit here do not be fooled.
Anyway I have not had the time to play my PS5 and have been enjoying PC handheld gaming instead, Steam games can be so cheap too. That is an exciting market in gaming and is just getting better and better at the moment.
This is actually worse than a straight up price hike and i hope it gets the backlash it deserves.
It's still a price increase as you're paying the same for less but they're trying to disguise it. You dont get to pretend to be consumer friendly by avoiding another price increase whilst giving less.
It's not that strange when there's a madman running the US that decided to impose huge tariffs on the entire world.
If you're b*tching about the price increases without screaming about tariffs, then you don't know jack.
@Rich33 "However, I do not agree with the "we're not making anything that small any more when we could be making more money making larger sizes" part."
Nintendo might be doing it.🤑
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2025/05/rumour-new-leak-may-explain-why-so-many-switch-2-physicals-are-game-key-cards
@Andy22385 So you think the PS5 Pro is overcharged or that they would subsidise a PS6? they don't seem to want to swallow $50 dollars at the minute and with moore's law being at least one foot in the grave seems we won't get the gains needed to drop the cost of a better machine than the PS5 Pro to be cheaper....
@rjejr
Even if the rumour is true - and the article casts a lot of doubt in that direction, I still think its worlds apart from a part manufacturer refusing to make 825Gb worth of SSD chips cheaper than 1Tb worth (I cant remember how many SSD chips are in the configuration - it may be 4 or 6).
If it wasn't sigificantly cheaper for Sony, they wouldn't be doing it, and I still think it may have to do with the whole 825Gb being more "efficient" - but that may well be down to the cost of the SSD controller or some other combination. I agree it sounds odd at first, but I don't think they're stupid in this regard - they know it will save money even if its not clear to us why.
When it comes to actual console prices I am still of the opinion that Sony only charge what they need to, and only put prices up (or do something like this) if parts/assembly/shipping etc costs go up, or if Tarriffs add additional costs.
That said I also think they are becoming less willing to subsidise these days, and the only subsidising that they will do is at the start of the generation (maybe) or for specific sales. Im not sure thats the best idea given more consoles means more profit from games etc, but that appears to be their approach.
@BattleMonkey I thought the Pro pricing was slightly overcharged, it just needed a drive at that price point. I dont expect the PS6 to be much more powerful tbh. But anything over the cost of the Pro is suicide for them IMO. Given the fact its likely 2028 they probably can get the power to cost down below that. I dont think it'll have a drive either like the Pro to price it lower
@naruball this is a direct price increase
@Yiro998 I game on both and also on Nintendo when I get the chance so I'm feeling the increases on all ends 😂. Definitely right about adding more storage. It's not much $$ to extend it on PC and PS5. Purchased two 4tb sticks to extend my storage on PC and PS5 Pro. Got them surprisingly cheap during the holidays.
So they raised the internal storage to justify a price increase, then raised the price again, then took away the extra internal storage without lowering the price?
The console space is is cooked. I guess I am just playing playstation and xbox games on pc next gen. This gen has been an all around disaster.
@Andy22385 Still bet £800 (looked at the rumoured spec and £800 seems to be a subsided price 😮), but yeah agree it will be double hard for them to sell it with a combination of the price and that fact we've had almost no exclusives on the PS5
Here's something i found interesting: credit to u/lonelymarine on reddit.
"It's actually 256GB less storage, but for some reason the press lets Sony get away with basically lying about the PS5's storage capacity. We know from teardowns (and common sense) that the original "825GB" PS5 has 6x 128GB NAND dies inside, which those skilled in basic math might find only adds up to 768, not 825. "But everyone lies about storage capacity!" you say. This is true...kind of. But not in the particular way Sony is lying about it.
It's true that old spinning rust measured in decimal instead of binary so they could advertise, say, a ~930GB drive as "1 TB", and everyone got used to this. When NAND came along with its need to leave some cells unused in order ensure reliability and performance, the storage manufacturers took that difference between the decimal and binary capacities that consumers had come to expect and used it for over-provisioning. So if you buy a 512GB SSD, Windows will report it as ~465GB while the controller reserves the reset of the 512GB that really is there as over-provisioning. (500/480GB drives are the same 512GB physical capacity with more space reserved for over-provisioning).
Every single piece of solid state storage you buy, from cheap SD cards to high-end enterprise SSDs, from every manufacturer, advertises their capacity this way, with only one exception: the fat PS5. With that device, presumably to make the advertised capacity seem closer to the Series X than it really was, Sony sold a physically 768GB SSD - still using the industry standard method of over-provisioning - as "825GB" by then running the binary to decimal conversion again in the other direction. This is a level of deceptive hitherto unseen in this space outside of outright scams. With every other HDD and SSD, the advertised capacity represents, at the very least, the amount of storage space that is available to store data in decimal form, even if you'll never see that actual number on your computer. But for the PS5 alone, this is not the case - that 825GB was never available to the OS to store data, not even in decimal measurements. Hence why you end up with a comparatively massive amount of your advertised 825GB "missing" out of the box.
(Even after Sony also did the sneaky trick of making their OS display storage capacity in decimal instead of binary, something they sadly aren't alone in doing but is also stupid because it makes file sizes not align to how much space they seem to take up on the disk, but that's another rant for another time.)
TL;DR: Sony is using bad math that no one else in the industry uses to lie about the PS5's storage size. "
@LiamCroft This story by yourself!
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